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This is the only post from town Koshi, finding a thing that makes him react:
On May 25 2018 22:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 15:48 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2018 12:59 GlowingBear wrote:Less euphoric now, reading more carefully. + Show Spoiler +On May 25 2018 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2018 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened? It looked forced at first but his read from scumreading you to townreading you was natural though given the posts after that. I'm okay with you being town. I'm no longer okay with you being town. First I thought "LS has no reason to fake feeling our 'fight' is a bit forced and then flipping his position an calling both of us town", but then I thought "why is he calling me town for a post right after rayn said I was town for the same post?", felt like parroting. I don't know, I have to give this more thought. LS, you've played with me as scum, didn't you? People never get me as scum day'1 because I am always a heavy poster. I don't know why you think I would be lazy as mafia. Plus "a fuzzy memory" doesn't look like a strong ground to call someone town. @Rayn: Why am I town for that post? I called it a "shitpost" but you said you really mean it word by word. Is that true? On May 25 2018 11:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no opinion on this fight whatsoever. We can start voting you then, because it's impossible to not have even a weak opinion on my interaction with rayn. ##Unvote
##Vote: Grackaroni This is like 90% why ls isn't town and 5% on grack yet you vote the off hand comment instead. Baaaaad gb. Hahahahaha. Oh boi. And the vote after. Hahahaha. This is better than browsing 9gag
But not appearing for the rest of the game. Especially apparent when he discovers he wasn't lynched:
On May 27 2018 18:49 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:Night 1
Jealous was lynched. He was a Vanilla.
It is now Night 1, which lasts 24 hours.
Night 1 ends on Sunday, May 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
Please submit night actions to both hosts at least 10 minutes before deadline. This must be a joke.
On May 27 2018 18:49 Koshi wrote:
How the fuck did mafia fail to lynch me ?
On May 27 2018 18:58 Koshi wrote:
Going to assume grack is town due to the vote.. Even though bussing is vrilliant with no blues. So I wont consider it too hard.
rayn and hf are fine because my reads.
GB still top town.
I forgot my reads on others but I will reread my filter tomorrow and then build on that with the new content.
Rels is mafia or plays very mafialike. Dont understand why he didnt vote me though and asks abiut a df lynch. I guess the Jealous lynch was never set in stone.
Too many people could have voted me and didnt. Maybe they were afraid to show face near EoD? I dont know. Weird.
On May 27 2018 19:05 Koshi wrote:
Mufasa was voting me. Sad days.
On May 27 2018 19:07 Koshi wrote:
Rels & Mufasa if I had to pick 2 atm.
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BTW why did you post if you didn't know you weren't lynched ?
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On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason.
So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ?
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On May 29 2018 04:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 03:49 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:24 Rels wrote:On May 28 2018 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and saw rayn died. PM'd the mods to post the day post when I noticed they were late on mobile (hate posting on mobile) >.< I probably wont lynch GB today just iwsh HF was here to talk to me to see where he's at with Koshi after Koshi posted some more in the night phase >.< Why do you feel the need to talk about you PMing the mods ? That's twice now. I actually did pm them because they didn't post the day post until after I pm'd -.- Out of all the things in that post you worried more about that part??????? I just find it weird that's all. I don't know if it's AI. On May 29 2018 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:30 Rels wrote:On May 28 2018 09:07 LightningStrike wrote:On May 28 2018 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:On May 28 2018 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:On May 28 2018 08:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 1
If I die tonight (something I don't believe in), you guys just have to figure out Koshi's alignment and stick to analyze how the voting pattern happened minutes prior to EoD.
Rels is suspicious for not wanting to vote Jealous but being okay with shennanies in any other player. I know people will say that the same can be said about me. It's partially right. But I was very confuse of who I thought we should lynch at EoD. Rels have being playing pretty straightforward, he doesn't seem insecure. He wanted to lynch darthfoley, yes, but at that time it wasn't unclear what his opinon on the main wagons was. If you're so right someone might be mafia and believes main wagons are going to flip town (or are a coin flip), I believe he should've been more incisive in convincing people to change to his target. Again, this is even stronger evidence if Koshi turns out to be mafia.
LS is playing a very confuse game and I'm never sure of what he believes. But his vote on Koshi was really bad. When I questioned it, he gave a very bad reason to vote Koshi. If he was sheeping someone, he should've just said it. Instead he came with a bad argument, following thread sentiment, voting the counter-wagon. If you believe Koshi might be town (like me), then this even stronger evidence. I'm lynching LS tomorrow like the hell out of me.
I don't know what to make of Holyflare and Rayn. I have arguments for both alignments regarding then. For know, I believe they could be town, and I'll be sticking to it. If LS flips mafia I'd be very suspicious of HF. Also, his hammer on Jealous is suspicious. Because he never wanted to vote Jealous in the first place and he didn't really hammer Jealous. He was already set to be the lynch when I unvoted him, and I knew it when I unvoted. HF Making it sound he is town for hammering Jealous is actually really bad for Holyflare, not the opposite. You should have this in mind. I will be honest I always been a bit of a confused game type of person even from the start of my mafia career which I think you forgot. I actually did believe my reasons for voting Koshi and Koshi himself addmited in this post about why he didn't come back to the thread until the night phase: On May 27 2018 18:41 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 06:44 GlowingBear wrote:
LS, Koshi didn't even continue playing He said he would play if he thinks rels starts playing like town which means he didn't. True Story. I was at the Brussel Jazz Marathon and couldnt be bebothered. BUT Rels is still mafia so I didnt break my promise. There was true validity to my reasoning. Although night kill says Koshi might be town now but I know my alignment as town and no I not the doctor. LS, I'll admit the confusing part. But that is never a reason to scumread someone. Why Koshi not playing indicates he is mafia? Where is the scum motivation behind it? Why can't town!Koshi do that? I thought town Koshi at the time would actually push for his target like he did the last game I did with him here: https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=KoshiBut I don't think he's a big enough idiot to kill rayn over HF i nthis scenerio with rayn pushign for his lynch as it would put himself to much in the spot light. That makes no sense. You townreading Koshi for that kill is the proof that it doesn't work that way. NK analysis CAN be useful sometimes, but not when applied this simply. Not just the night kill but some of his posts in the night phase made me doubt my scumread on him and the night kill as well. Just my interpenetration of it. In the bolded, and several other posts, you only talk about the NK. What other posts changed your mind ? Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 18:42 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
I really dislike how this wagon on Koshi was formed.
HF is attacking rayn throughout the entire game
Never votes rayn.
Rayn posts an "outdated" read on Koshi (come on, everybody read those posts and it was also object for discussion)
HF, without reevaluating Rayn, decides he is right and votes for Koshi
Then people pile up for absolute no reason. Fuba decided OH THAT WAS A GOOD CASE, LS brings a very flimsy reason to vote Koshi which I heavily dislike (and makes me lean scum on him).
This wagon doesn't sound right at all.
Dont forget df and Rels also made a +1 post. I like you gb. I like you. Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 18:49 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:Night 1
Jealous was lynched. He was a Vanilla.
It is now Night 1, which lasts 24 hours.
Night 1 ends on Sunday, May 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
Please submit night actions to both hosts at least 10 minutes before deadline. This must be a joke. I might be reading to much into it but his reaction when he noticed that jealous was lynched instead of him that he seemed genuinely surprised. The first does show a bit more effort trying to get other people to notice stuff to.
I disagree completely. I think his reaction was way below what he would do as town. And it's not true he was surprised at not being lynched, since he was posting, so he knew he wasn't dead.
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On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia.
Will have to reread how the votes went exactly, but I think GB consolidating on Jealous was the reason he was the lynch until he switched. Apart from that, I find his train of thoughts very townie, his reads are flowing logically. What arguments did he misconstruct ?
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On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ? Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially.
mm. Statistically, maybe. But over such a low number of players, it's a gamble to use statistics to decide if the scums are AFK.
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On May 29 2018 04:28 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:16 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:13 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:49 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:24 Rels wrote:On May 28 2018 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and saw rayn died. PM'd the mods to post the day post when I noticed they were late on mobile (hate posting on mobile) >.< I probably wont lynch GB today just iwsh HF was here to talk to me to see where he's at with Koshi after Koshi posted some more in the night phase >.< Why do you feel the need to talk about you PMing the mods ? That's twice now. I actually did pm them because they didn't post the day post until after I pm'd -.- Out of all the things in that post you worried more about that part??????? I just find it weird that's all. I don't know if it's AI. On May 29 2018 03:40 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:30 Rels wrote:On May 28 2018 09:07 LightningStrike wrote:On May 28 2018 09:02 GlowingBear wrote:On May 28 2018 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:On May 28 2018 08:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Part 1
If I die tonight (something I don't believe in), you guys just have to figure out Koshi's alignment and stick to analyze how the voting pattern happened minutes prior to EoD.
Rels is suspicious for not wanting to vote Jealous but being okay with shennanies in any other player. I know people will say that the same can be said about me. It's partially right. But I was very confuse of who I thought we should lynch at EoD. Rels have being playing pretty straightforward, he doesn't seem insecure. He wanted to lynch darthfoley, yes, but at that time it wasn't unclear what his opinon on the main wagons was. If you're so right someone might be mafia and believes main wagons are going to flip town (or are a coin flip), I believe he should've been more incisive in convincing people to change to his target. Again, this is even stronger evidence if Koshi turns out to be mafia.
LS is playing a very confuse game and I'm never sure of what he believes. But his vote on Koshi was really bad. When I questioned it, he gave a very bad reason to vote Koshi. If he was sheeping someone, he should've just said it. Instead he came with a bad argument, following thread sentiment, voting the counter-wagon. If you believe Koshi might be town (like me), then this even stronger evidence. I'm lynching LS tomorrow like the hell out of me.
I don't know what to make of Holyflare and Rayn. I have arguments for both alignments regarding then. For know, I believe they could be town, and I'll be sticking to it. If LS flips mafia I'd be very suspicious of HF. Also, his hammer on Jealous is suspicious. Because he never wanted to vote Jealous in the first place and he didn't really hammer Jealous. He was already set to be the lynch when I unvoted him, and I knew it when I unvoted. HF Making it sound he is town for hammering Jealous is actually really bad for Holyflare, not the opposite. You should have this in mind. I will be honest I always been a bit of a confused game type of person even from the start of my mafia career which I think you forgot. I actually did believe my reasons for voting Koshi and Koshi himself addmited in this post about why he didn't come back to the thread until the night phase: On May 27 2018 18:41 Koshi wrote:
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True Story. I was at the Brussel Jazz Marathon and couldnt be bebothered.
BUT
Rels is still mafia so I didnt break my promise. There was true validity to my reasoning. Although night kill says Koshi might be town now but I know my alignment as town and no I not the doctor. LS, I'll admit the confusing part. But that is never a reason to scumread someone. Why Koshi not playing indicates he is mafia? Where is the scum motivation behind it? Why can't town!Koshi do that? I thought town Koshi at the time would actually push for his target like he did the last game I did with him here: https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=KoshiBut I don't think he's a big enough idiot to kill rayn over HF i nthis scenerio with rayn pushign for his lynch as it would put himself to much in the spot light. That makes no sense. You townreading Koshi for that kill is the proof that it doesn't work that way. NK analysis CAN be useful sometimes, but not when applied this simply. Not just the night kill but some of his posts in the night phase made me doubt my scumread on him and the night kill as well. Just my interpenetration of it. In the bolded, and several other posts, you only talk about the NK. What other posts changed your mind ? On May 27 2018 18:42 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
I really dislike how this wagon on Koshi was formed.
HF is attacking rayn throughout the entire game
Never votes rayn.
Rayn posts an "outdated" read on Koshi (come on, everybody read those posts and it was also object for discussion)
HF, without reevaluating Rayn, decides he is right and votes for Koshi
Then people pile up for absolute no reason. Fuba decided OH THAT WAS A GOOD CASE, LS brings a very flimsy reason to vote Koshi which I heavily dislike (and makes me lean scum on him).
This wagon doesn't sound right at all.
Dont forget df and Rels also made a +1 post. I like you gb. I like you. On May 27 2018 18:49 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:Night 1
Jealous was lynched. He was a Vanilla.
It is now Night 1, which lasts 24 hours.
Night 1 ends on Sunday, May 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
Please submit night actions to both hosts at least 10 minutes before deadline. This must be a joke. On May 27 2018 18:49 Koshi wrote:
How the fuck did mafia fail to lynch me ? I might be reading to much into it but his reaction when he noticed that jealous was lynched instead of him that he seemed genuinely surprised. The first does show a bit more effort trying to get other people to notice stuff to. I disagree completely. I think his reaction was way below what he would do as town. And it's not true he was surprised at not being lynched, since he was posting, so he knew he wasn't dead. To each of their own I guess. Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:22 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi. well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ? Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason. So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ? Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially. mm. Statistically, maybe. But over such a low number of players, it's a gamble to use statistics to decide if the scums are AFK. True but my guts thinks otherwise.
fair enough.
Who do you think is scum then ?
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On May 29 2018 04:49 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 02:58 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 18:24 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post. You are mafia. - No vote - No interaction with thread about this post. Except my whole EOD has been talking about this post ... You're in a unique position if you're town. From your POV, a lot of people are very likely town. All the people voting Jealous for starter. GB probably too, if I remember right, 'cause even though he switched at the very end, I think he was the one that consolidated the wagon. And DF too, 'cause if I remember right, he had a reason to switch to you when the vote was close, and didn't. I'll have to check if his vote would have changed the lynch at that point, but if yes, I don't think DF can be scum if you're not. If you're scum, the game is a lot more open, a lot of people can be your partner. Basically everyone apart from the early votes on you and Jealous. But from your POV, the game should be easy. So if you're town, please show it like you usually do. I think I did everything you just described here. On top of playing the game pretty transparant. My pool is LS, df, fuba, you and the new guy. I am not sure if DF is not mafia for what you say. But you and DF did tumble somewhat town for activity near EoD.
cool. Can you now convince me you're town and that whoever you're voting for is mafia
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On May 29 2018 04:56 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 03:24 Rels wrote:On May 28 2018 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Just got home and saw rayn died. PM'd the mods to post the day post when I noticed they were late on mobile (hate posting on mobile) >.< I probably wont lynch GB today just iwsh HF was here to talk to me to see where he's at with Koshi after Koshi posted some more in the night phase >.< Why do you feel the need to talk about you PMing the mods ? That's twice now. I actually think it comes off as too dumb to be a real dumb tell. Seems forced like his fake rage in Millionaire Time to get the revenge we've been waiting for for three years Rels.
lol
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On May 29 2018 04:58 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:57 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:49 Koshi wrote:On May 29 2018 02:58 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 18:24 Koshi wrote:On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post. You are mafia. - No vote - No interaction with thread about this post. Except my whole EOD has been talking about this post ... You're in a unique position if you're town. From your POV, a lot of people are very likely town. All the people voting Jealous for starter. GB probably too, if I remember right, 'cause even though he switched at the very end, I think he was the one that consolidated the wagon. And DF too, 'cause if I remember right, he had a reason to switch to you when the vote was close, and didn't. I'll have to check if his vote would have changed the lynch at that point, but if yes, I don't think DF can be scum if you're not. If you're scum, the game is a lot more open, a lot of people can be your partner. Basically everyone apart from the early votes on you and Jealous. But from your POV, the game should be easy. So if you're town, please show it like you usually do. I think I did everything you just described here. On top of playing the game pretty transparant. My pool is LS, df, fuba, you and the new guy. I am not sure if DF is not mafia for what you say. But you and DF did tumble somewhat town for activity near EoD. cool. Can you now convince me you're town and that whoever you're voting for is mafia meh. because I don't see clear mafia signs on actives I am voting off people who hide their alignment the most.
I assume you know fuba well 'cause you know him by another handle ? Am I right thinking that ? Do you play mafia elsewhere, or is it unrelated ?
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On May 29 2018 05:04 darthfoley wrote:
Rels's recent posts make me think he could be town
I just reread fuba's filter and I see no apparent reason from him to vote Koshi. Koshi is correct that if Koshi is town, fuba's vote looks especially terrible and he might be mafia. Except I just checked and he was the first person on the Koshi wagon. Would scum!fuba start a counter wagon on Koshi, of all people?
Frankly idk why mafia didn't just hammer me considering I was easy lynch bait yesterday and lots of people were okay with me dying (including myself)
fuba cannot be scum if Koshi is scum.
And yeah. Finding what happened exactly EOD1 will be key
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On May 29 2018 05:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 04:20 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia. Will have to reread how the votes went exactly, but I think GB consolidating on Jealous was the reason he was the lynch until he switched. Apart from that, I find his train of thoughts very townie, his reads are flowing logically. What arguments did he misconstruct ? really bad rels it's super obvious if you read the game even a little bit
lol. Quote it then.
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On May 29 2018 05:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:09 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 05:06 Holyflare wrote:On May 29 2018 04:20 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
GB's end of day was really bad. I saw him criticising rels for pushing df at end of day but he voted on df too????? There's so many misconstruing arguments in his filter (especially towards me) and so many posts keeping his options open that it's extremely likely that GB is mafia. Will have to reread how the votes went exactly, but I think GB consolidating on Jealous was the reason he was the lynch until he switched. Apart from that, I find his train of thoughts very townie, his reads are flowing logically. What arguments did he misconstruct ? really bad rels it's super obvious if you read the game even a little bit lol. Quote it then. It's before deadline where he says I never voted rayn and used it to try and deflect votes off the koshi wagon etc etc. THat's just one instance. Another is how his reads develop over time with no new critical thinking or development and then just magically change when the situation looks bad for his team mate. Something that massively weighs me in the favour of a GB/Koshi scum team is that GB scum reads rayn/grack ALL OF DAY 1 but then Koshi starts to be a wagon when rayn made his "outdated" case on koshi. Somehow that rayn and grack read magically changes to oh wait they're town now and he votes jealous with them. When I pressure him to explain that read he fobs it off and basically has NO reason that his read changed on them. The only correlation is that Koshi is up for lynch. We then know how the rest of the deadline went down where he basically switches off jealous for absolutely no reason and then criticises you multiple times for not voting jealous(?????). Furthermore, with regards to Koshi. I don't EVER believe he votes LS in this situation. If he has a pool of ls/fuba/df/you etc (which is already a major bs pool of basically people that didn't vote jealous) why would he vote LS? LS could have easily voted df in this situation to save Jealous but did not, Fuba as well. Koshi isn't critically analysing anything that went down at deadline. DF is the key to him solving the game but he refuses to vote there. I am pretty sure it's because it reveals that GB was the counter wagon initiator to save Koshi.
I'll have to check about this 'cause I don't remember him scumreading rayn late in the day. At the beginning, sure. I'll check when and why his read changed. Tomorrow though, I'll go to sleep soon
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On May 29 2018 05:33 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 04:52 fuba wrote:On May 27 2018 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuba do you have a read on LS? Finally caught up. Sorry - I'm moving in a week and spent all day yesterday getting things set up :/ Only real thing that stuck out about ls to me is that he keeps commenting on people not participating, but hasn't voted. Not definitive, but doesn't make me feel particularly good about him. I liked kpshi originally, but I really like your case on him. Leaving out the one post that matters 🙃
Why didn't you switch from Koshi to Jealous or DF at the time you posted "I reread Koshi's filter and it's not that bad" near the deadline ?
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and with that I'm going to sleep. I'm still not convinced by Koshi - if he's town, fuba makes sense to attack, but if fuba is town and Koshi is scum it makes sense too, it's an easy target in that scenario. The most important thing is that fuba cannot be scum with Koshi, and Koshi is not playing his energetic town self. Lynching him unless he becomes really townie is the best plan. Especially since a lot of things depends on his alignment
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On May 29 2018 05:43 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:37 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 05:33 fuba wrote:On May 27 2018 04:52 fuba wrote:On May 27 2018 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuba do you have a read on LS? Finally caught up. Sorry - I'm moving in a week and spent all day yesterday getting things set up :/ Only real thing that stuck out about ls to me is that he keeps commenting on people not participating, but hasn't voted. Not definitive, but doesn't make me feel particularly good about him. I liked kpshi originally, but I really like your case on him. Leaving out the one post that matters 🙃 Why didn't you switch from Koshi to Jealous or DF at the time you posted "I reread Koshi's filter and it's not that bad" near the deadline ? I didn't believe jealous was scum, but was ok with him as a policy lynch. I wasn't gonna vote him, but wasn't really too upset with him as an option. And I had little thought on DF. I definitely wasn't gonna pop in and vote DF with no personal reasoning 20 minutes before EOD. I guess since I was viewing Koshi as town, the smarter thing would have been to switch my vote to someone who was definitely not being lynched, but I didn't consider that at the time. Shenannies are for people who have had the time and have given a good deal of thought to what they're doing - I didn't have that.
? I thought you didn't vote Jealous because rayn was on him:
On May 27 2018 07:38 fuba wrote:
I'm not overly opposed to the jealous lynch, but rayn sitting on it instead of voting a legit scumread makes me nervous.
And voting a null read over a townread is kinda weird too
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On May 29 2018 05:49 fuba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:46 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 05:43 fuba wrote:On May 29 2018 05:37 Rels wrote:On May 29 2018 05:33 fuba wrote:On May 27 2018 04:52 fuba wrote:On May 27 2018 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuba do you have a read on LS? Finally caught up. Sorry - I'm moving in a week and spent all day yesterday getting things set up :/ Only real thing that stuck out about ls to me is that he keeps commenting on people not participating, but hasn't voted. Not definitive, but doesn't make me feel particularly good about him. I liked kpshi originally, but I really like your case on him. Leaving out the one post that matters 🙃 Why didn't you switch from Koshi to Jealous or DF at the time you posted "I reread Koshi's filter and it's not that bad" near the deadline ? I didn't believe jealous was scum, but was ok with him as a policy lynch. I wasn't gonna vote him, but wasn't really too upset with him as an option. And I had little thought on DF. I definitely wasn't gonna pop in and vote DF with no personal reasoning 20 minutes before EOD. I guess since I was viewing Koshi as town, the smarter thing would have been to switch my vote to someone who was definitely not being lynched, but I didn't consider that at the time. Shenannies are for people who have had the time and have given a good deal of thought to what they're doing - I didn't have that. ? I thought you didn't vote Jealous because rayn was on him: On May 27 2018 07:38 fuba wrote:
I'm not overly opposed to the jealous lynch, but rayn sitting on it instead of voting a legit scumread makes me nervous. And voting a null read over a townread is kinda weird too Why would rayn being on him affect my thoughts on jealous? Rayn being on jealous instead of Koshi affected my thoughts on rayn. Early game I'm almost always voting null over town. Not sure what the alternative is when I don't have strong scum reads.
I read the quote of yours I've posted as "I would switch to Jealous if rayn wasn't on the wagon".
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On May 29 2018 05:50 Koshi wrote:
I wont be more energetic than this.
The game is just something I do on the side.
My content should be better than fubas if it is between us. But you decide to let meta influence you too much.
meh. Weak. You always say stuff like that, "I won't play D1", "I won''t post too much", etc., then you don't do it. And ofc I'm using meta. This is not a smurf game.
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On May 29 2018 07:27 GlowingBear wrote:
You do this all the time as mafia. Says someone is scum, but attacks someone else.
@Rels: I may have missed a post of yours, but why are you voting Koshi instead of darthfoley? You seemed pretty sure DF was scum day1.
DF was my most likely scum D1 but I was not 100% sure, I think I mentioned I had like 60% confidence.
For Koshi, just read my filter from this post. I'm way more sure of it
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