EPTOn May 29 2018 06:12 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh shit I'm missing some shit fights.
Oh shit I'm missing some shit fights.
I'm not fighting, was I rude? I didn't mean to be rude.
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
I'm not fighting, was I rude? I didn't mean to be rude. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
On May 29 2018 04:20 Rels wrote: Will have to reread how the votes went exactly, but I think GB consolidating on Jealous was the reason he was the lynch until he switched. Apart from that, I find his train of thoughts very townie, his reads are flowing logically. What arguments did he misconstruct ? This. GB re-evaluating his read on me/Rayn and switching onto Jealous ensured that Jealous would be a primary lynch option for the day. He played as big of a role in the chain of events that lead to Jealous getting lynched as anybody. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
On May 29 2018 06:19 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not fighting, was I rude? I didn't mean to be rude. I'm not sure I just saw a lot of caps when I posted and was sent to a new page. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 29 2018 06:05 GlowingBear wrote: The only reason Jealous died was because I voted him and he became the main wagon BEFORE koshi. Holyflare's swap didn't hammer Jealous. HF, let me ask you something. If I am mafia with Jealous, why would I flip my reads on Grack and Rayn and HAMMER MY FUCKING SCUMPARTNER? You didn't hammer your scum partner. There was ample time to switch absolutely anywhere. Which you did. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On May 29 2018 06:37 Holyflare wrote: You didn't hammer your scum partner. There was ample time to switch absolutely anywhere. Which you did. and if HF had done what he said he would do (lynch me), Jealous wouldn't have been lynched and I would have | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
On May 29 2018 06:37 Holyflare wrote: You didn't hammer your scum partner. There was ample time to switch absolutely anywhere. Which you did. Yeah but GB could have voted on DF or Fuba or a whole bunch of different lurkerish players. By voting on Jealous it makes Jealous the leading lurker lynch and increases the chances that a fourth player will add their vote on that wagon because Jealous already has votes. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Holyflare
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
On May 29 2018 06:45 Holyflare wrote: The whole point of me saying I would lynch df was a play to see if gb would stick to his read or not. He did not and jealous flipped mafia. It's really quite obvious. What reason did he switch grack? I don't want to get too caught up arguing over this. You're focusing on a minus that should be outweighed by many pluses in GB's filter. If GB was scum and he didn't want to bus then he never would have voted Jealous in the first place. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
##Vote: Holyflare You're mafia. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
byj seems like a good lynch to me. Aside from what I wrote earlier there's just an absence of original thought processes that I'm used to seeing with new players. There's not much evidence in his filter that he's giving much thought to anything. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 29 2018 06:54 GlowingBear wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Holyflare You're mafia. Really good reasoning. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 29 2018 06:52 Grackaroni wrote: I don't want to get too caught up arguing over this. You're focusing on a minus that should be outweighed by many pluses in GB's filter. If GB was scum and he didn't want to bus then he never would have voted Jealous in the first place. I do not think there are pluses that you think there are. When I look at gb's filter I see reads that change out of nowhere, a lot of unanswered questions that he doesn't follow up on and a shit tonne of misconstruing and leaving all his options open. Even this whole cycle he keeps throwing my name into some arbitrary mafia list and now he's even voting me despite people pointing out obvious facts and logic gb agrees but then still keeps those options open because it's his only out for later. Even now I know he's just going to try and start a shit fight with me. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
You're a logical player. At this point, with the whole thread telling you I'm town, with a lot of things pointing out I can be town, I'd expect you would at least reconsider your read. You aren't. Because you decided I'm mafia BEFORE having you arguments. And now you want to keep suspicions on me. You've played with me a lot. You know I can be disruptive, flip my reads, hard defend mafia, etc., as town. Yet you refuse to try to see things from this point of view. This is not a townie mindset. This is someone trying to get a mislynch or to discredit someone who is being universally townread. I have three main reasons to think you're mafia: 1) You kept accusing me of not doing things while I was, and you actually agreed with a lot of posts I made. 2) You've called LS almost confirmed town for a reason that is an extreme bullshit. You're a logical player, it's hard to believe that you actually believe LS could be town for that post of his. 3) You fucking agreed with me that Koshi's alignment is key to understand the game. I also believe that. But you think Koshi is mafia. If he flips mafia, both Rels and me would look bad. It makes sense, under your POV, a Jealous/Koshi/GB mafia team. But if the key of solving it relies in Koshi's alignment and if you think Koshi is mafia, YOU WILL ALWAYS START DAY2 CONVINCING PEOPLE TO LYNCH KOSHI, and once his alignment is revealed, if he flips mafia, YOU GO AGAINST ME. YOU WOULD NEVER BE GOING AGAINST ME BEFORE KILLING KOSHI. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
@Rels: I may have missed a post of yours, but why are you voting Koshi instead of darthfoley? You seemed pretty sure DF was scum day1. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On May 29 2018 06:54 GlowingBear wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Holyflare You're mafia. He is just dumb. Quote my post. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
On May 29 2018 07:36 Koshi wrote: Grack has been exceptionally smart. Countered the rayn case and now this. /clapclap You know what they say about broken clocks. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 29 2018 07:24 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not trying to start a shit fight with you. I refuse to accept that a high profile player that I admire can play like this as town. You're a logical player. At this point, with the whole thread telling you I'm town, with a lot of things pointing out I can be town, I'd expect you would at least reconsider your read. You aren't. Because you decided I'm mafia BEFORE having you arguments. And now you want to keep suspicions on me. You've played with me a lot. You know I can be disruptive, flip my reads, hard defend mafia, etc., as town. Yet you refuse to try to see things from this point of view. This is not a townie mindset. This is someone trying to get a mislynch or to discredit someone who is being universally townread. I have three main reasons to think you're mafia: 1) You kept accusing me of not doing things while I was, and you actually agreed with a lot of posts I made. 2) You've called LS almost confirmed town for a reason that is an extreme bullshit. You're a logical player, it's hard to believe that you actually believe LS could be town for that post of his. 3) You fucking agreed with me that Koshi's alignment is key to understand the game. I also believe that. But you think Koshi is mafia. If he flips mafia, both Rels and me would look bad. It makes sense, under your POV, a Jealous/Koshi/GB mafia team. But if the key of solving it relies in Koshi's alignment and if you think Koshi is mafia, YOU WILL ALWAYS START DAY2 CONVINCING PEOPLE TO LYNCH KOSHI, and once his alignment is revealed, if he flips mafia, YOU GO AGAINST ME. YOU WOULD NEVER BE GOING AGAINST ME BEFORE KILLING KOSHI. I literally don't care if everyone on earth called you town. That doesn't make them correct. What have I agreed with you about at all? I've made about 5 posts this cycle and one of them is that koshi is playing like mafia and should be the lynch. The others are that you are likely mafia. If you're not mafia then you should be playing out of your mind to convince me you're not and why someone else is but it's all omgus and useless crap like this that makes it really obvious to me you're mafia. You're literally saying I'm mafia who lynched mafia day 1 instead of literally anyone else and now on the next cycle instead of any other player in the game I just push. 1) I have never accused you of not doing things. This is heavily misconstrued. 2) I don't believe he's confirmed town anymore because he's done it again and it looks quite overplayed. I don't think he's looking exceptionally like mafia either though and nobody has made a convincing argument why he is but they just keep saying he is for no reason. 3) I have literally just been doing that. Another post misconstruing. | ||
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