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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 19:23 GMT
#924
Who the hell are you?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 19:25 GMT
#931
On April 10 2018 04:24 Vivax wrote:
GlowingBeer could be anyone and whoever it is should be modkilled for that vote.


Well I unvoted you anyway.

I'm now waffling over whether to vote n00b or not.

And it's annoying.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 19:26 GMT
#938
Did I miss something? Since when did you think he was town?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 19:28 GMT
#943
On April 10 2018 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 04:26 Calix wrote:
Did I miss something? Since when did you think he was town?


He's not mafia. Why are you even mentioning him now?


Because I DON'T know who to vote for.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 19:30 GMT
#951
Nah.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 19:40 GMT
#960
On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here


"I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir.

Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 19:46 GMT
#967
On April 10 2018 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here


"I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir.

Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense.


It makes perfect fucking sense. You backpedal on vivax because (no reasons) to say skynx looks towny for not voting to save himself but then you can't be fucked to vote A LITERALLY AFK PERSON THAT DOES NOTHING because you're waffling over a guy that unvoted the LEAD wagon to vote a new person with 5 minutes to go???


I cited the vote count as a reason to 'backpedal' on Vivax. No reasons is objectively incorrect.

I didn't know how many votes n00bking had or whatever you're talking about with him. So I didn't conclude that he unvoted the lead wagon or whatever. Whereas Skynx/ Vivax happened earlier before votes went everywhere.

I don't think this is difficult to figure out.

And why would "I couldn't be fucked to vote an AFK guy" be a scum tell unless I was literally on a scum team with currentlyhomeless? And if I was on a scum team with currentlyhomeless, why would I not just...vote for n00bking?

Your scum-read does not make any sense, lol.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 19:51 GMT
#974
On April 10 2018 04:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 04:46 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here


"I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir.

Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense.


It makes perfect fucking sense. You backpedal on vivax because (no reasons) to say skynx looks towny for not voting to save himself but then you can't be fucked to vote A LITERALLY AFK PERSON THAT DOES NOTHING because you're waffling over a guy that unvoted the LEAD wagon to vote a new person with 5 minutes to go???


I cited the vote count as a reason to 'backpedal' on Vivax. No reasons is objectively incorrect.

I didn't know how many votes n00bking had or whatever you're talking about with him. So I didn't conclude that he unvoted the lead wagon or whatever. Whereas Skynx/ Vivax happened earlier before votes went everywhere.

I don't think this is difficult to figure out.

And why would "I couldn't be fucked to vote an AFK guy" be a scum tell unless I was literally on a scum team with currentlyhomeless? And if I was on a scum team with currentlyhomeless, why would I not just...vote for n00bking?

Your scum-read does not make any sense, lol.


Vote counts mean shit all. You just saw noobking get lynched based on absolutely nothing. No words to vote him. Why was he lynched? What case? What reason?

You think vivax is town because he never got more than three votes, was tried to be pushed off of by multiple people and the vote count was a smattering of 2s and 3s?

Makes no sense at all.


Nah. I think static votes is a bad sign. If mafia wanted to save Vivax then all they have to do is put some votes on Skynx, or me, or n00b (do you think there's any mafia on his train aside from Vivax btw?). And now that n00b's train DID take off, I'm going to look at that sometime this night.

n00b's train happened in like five seconds. Not much time to really take it in.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 19:55 GMT
#978
On April 10 2018 04:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 04:51 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:47 Holyflare wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:46 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here


"I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir.

Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense.


It makes perfect fucking sense. You backpedal on vivax because (no reasons) to say skynx looks towny for not voting to save himself but then you can't be fucked to vote A LITERALLY AFK PERSON THAT DOES NOTHING because you're waffling over a guy that unvoted the LEAD wagon to vote a new person with 5 minutes to go???


I cited the vote count as a reason to 'backpedal' on Vivax. No reasons is objectively incorrect.

I didn't know how many votes n00bking had or whatever you're talking about with him. So I didn't conclude that he unvoted the lead wagon or whatever. Whereas Skynx/ Vivax happened earlier before votes went everywhere.

I don't think this is difficult to figure out.

And why would "I couldn't be fucked to vote an AFK guy" be a scum tell unless I was literally on a scum team with currentlyhomeless? And if I was on a scum team with currentlyhomeless, why would I not just...vote for n00bking?

Your scum-read does not make any sense, lol.


Vote counts mean shit all. You just saw noobking get lynched based on absolutely nothing. No words to vote him. Why was he lynched? What case? What reason?

You think vivax is town because he never got more than three votes, was tried to be pushed off of by multiple people and the vote count was a smattering of 2s and 3s?

Makes no sense at all.


Nah. I think static votes is a bad sign. If mafia wanted to save Vivax then all they have to do is put some votes on Skynx, or me, or n00b (do you think there's any mafia on his train aside from Vivax btw?). And now that n00b's train DID take off, I'm going to look at that sometime this night.

n00b's train happened in like five seconds. Not much time to really take it in.

Static votes is a bad sign but without static votes we lynched town sooo?!?


Your point?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 20:02 GMT
#982
On April 10 2018 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 04:55 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:51 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:47 Holyflare wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:46 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here


"I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir.

Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense.


It makes perfect fucking sense. You backpedal on vivax because (no reasons) to say skynx looks towny for not voting to save himself but then you can't be fucked to vote A LITERALLY AFK PERSON THAT DOES NOTHING because you're waffling over a guy that unvoted the LEAD wagon to vote a new person with 5 minutes to go???


I cited the vote count as a reason to 'backpedal' on Vivax. No reasons is objectively incorrect.

I didn't know how many votes n00bking had or whatever you're talking about with him. So I didn't conclude that he unvoted the lead wagon or whatever. Whereas Skynx/ Vivax happened earlier before votes went everywhere.

I don't think this is difficult to figure out.

And why would "I couldn't be fucked to vote an AFK guy" be a scum tell unless I was literally on a scum team with currentlyhomeless? And if I was on a scum team with currentlyhomeless, why would I not just...vote for n00bking?

Your scum-read does not make any sense, lol.


Vote counts mean shit all. You just saw noobking get lynched based on absolutely nothing. No words to vote him. Why was he lynched? What case? What reason?

You think vivax is town because he never got more than three votes, was tried to be pushed off of by multiple people and the vote count was a smattering of 2s and 3s?

Makes no sense at all.


Nah. I think static votes is a bad sign. If mafia wanted to save Vivax then all they have to do is put some votes on Skynx, or me, or n00b (do you think there's any mafia on his train aside from Vivax btw?). And now that n00b's train DID take off, I'm going to look at that sometime this night.

n00b's train happened in like five seconds. Not much time to really take it in.

Static votes is a bad sign but without static votes we lynched town sooo?!?


Your point?

You are saying shit that doesn't make sense to justify your waffling


I don't see how saying "static votes are a sign that Vivax might be town" and n00bking being turbo-lynched are somehow mutually exclusive. That is actually what makes no sense.

I don't even know why you're asking me things and expecting me to respond when you earlier said you were 'convinced' I am mafia despite talking with me a bunch. I don't understand.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 20:14 GMT
#990
On April 10 2018 05:04 Vivax wrote:
Either way I think that the votes should point to me being town unless you argue both my teammates were afk while I was at majority.


Looking at the votes at first glance, I'm thinking all the viable wagons [Skynx, you, n00b, myself] were town. Which makes rayn/ CH votes suspicious.

ExO_'s naked vote on n00bking is obviously bad so I'll await an explanation for that one.

Need to look into the Skynx train more.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 20:15 GMT
#991
On April 10 2018 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 04:22 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:20 n00bKing wrote:
So, Skynx has a very simple path to self-preservation, which is just to vote against Vivax. He votes against me instead, which (regardless of Vivax's own alignment) just SCREAMS "I know someone has my back."


Huh? That's like the opposite conclusion to what I had.

Seriously, not taking the path of least resistance is what townies do. Mafia would just take the Vivax lynch. It's not like Skynx would get much flak for it cuz self-preservation.

here


Making the assumption that Vivax is town after explicitly stating in the thread that static votes pointed to Vivax being town? Shocking.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 20:21 GMT
#995
I couldn't care less if other people think it's 'shit'. What matters is that I think it's a valid tell, I'm going to keep thinking it's one, and saying I'm wrong is not a reason to call me mafia.

It also wasn't hard to conclude 'all wagons were town' when I already know 2/4 of the wagons were town and think Vivax/ Skynx are town.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 20:37 GMT
#1001
So why wouldn't I, as mafia, just vote for ExO_ then and look consistent and squeaky clean? Or actually vote for n00bking and join the bandwagon? Or actually vote for the AFK dude? Or actually use my vote so that I don't run into mod actions?

#morehypotheticalWIFOM

You're just pointing out that I made a dumb move at deadline regardless of my alignment. Which I said as much already.

I get why people think it's weird because I wasn't thinking logically at deadline. I also get why people could plausibly think I am scummy for it. But I couldn't have been playing optimally as 'mafia' either.

I can't really offer a better explanation than "I froze, wasn't thinking properly and made a dumb move"

If you want to keep calling me mafia, fine, but at least talk about something else because trying to get me to ""explain"" my EOD is not going to work.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 20:48 GMT
#1006
Because of timing.

And if you don't believe me, remember that you scum-read me for LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME REASON in HM 3.0. I might just quote my posts from there to save myself some effort.

It's quite amusing.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 09 2018 20:48 GMT
#1007
On April 10 2018 05:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 05:37 Calix wrote:
So why wouldn't I, as mafia, just vote for ExO_ then and look consistent and squeaky clean? Or actually vote for n00bking and join the bandwagon? Or actually vote for the AFK dude? Or actually use my vote so that I don't run into mod actions?

#morehypotheticalWIFOM

You're just pointing out that I made a dumb move at deadline regardless of my alignment. Which I said as much already.

I get why people think it's weird because I wasn't thinking logically at deadline. I also get why people could plausibly think I am scummy for it. But I couldn't have been playing optimally as 'mafia' either.

I can't really offer a better explanation than "I froze, wasn't thinking properly and made a dumb move"

If you want to keep calling me mafia, fine, but at least talk about something else because trying to get me to ""explain"" my EOD is not going to work.


I think you're partners with currentlyhomeless because there was absolutely 0 reasons not to vote him. If he's town he's a free vote, if he's mafia you can't vote him. If you are town there should be absolutely no qualms of lynching a guy with like 1 page of filter over noobking, especially since you seemed to say we shouldn't lynch people with big filters over smaller ones!! You chose the not to kill him option.

Voting exo is terrible afk useless vote and achieves nothing and makes you look bad for voting off wagons at decision time. It makes you look worse for not voting homeless.

Voting noobking is voting with your mafia read exo and your original mafia read vivax. Saying vivax is town because the votes are static when vivax wasn't even in the lead anymore is the most cop out read possible.


So basically one giant association read?

I also disagree that voting for ExO would look bad. But hypotheticals, eh.

As for rayn, I don't know if you're expecting a big post in response to that. I thought [at the time!] that Vivax was more likely town due to vote count. Although looking at votes, you are probably correct that my argument sucks since Vivax voted for n00b after Skynx did.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 10 2018 10:01 GMT
#1062
On April 10 2018 18:57 Eversince wrote:
I guess it's to early for people to be playing but oh well. I'm going to summarize:

"Reasons to not lynch ES"
1)Claimed.
2)Un CC
3)Contradiction amass all over the place under direct heat. vs my meta I have little time and everyone who has played with me knows it so why I am not just afk at this point?
4)Has openly lied (in the time frames) to try to divert lynches away from me.

Why would mafia do ANY of this?


GS isn’t guaranteed to be in the game.

You’re also extremely self-aware about your contradictions and bungling of the GS role.

And you are currently not doing much but adding a shitload of WIFOM to the game. This is really bad given current game state.

I will grant that claiming GS is a really weird thing for mafia to do though.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 10 2018 10:11 GMT
#1069
On April 10 2018 19:03 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 19:01 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 18:57 Eversince wrote:
I guess it's to early for people to be playing but oh well. I'm going to summarize:

"Reasons to not lynch ES"
1)Claimed.
2)Un CC
3)Contradiction amass all over the place under direct heat. vs my meta I have little time and everyone who has played with me knows it so why I am not just afk at this point?
4)Has openly lied (in the time frames) to try to divert lynches away from me.

Why would mafia do ANY of this?


GS isn’t guaranteed to be in the game.

You’re also extremely self-aware about your contradictions and bungling of the GS role.

And you are currently not doing much but adding a shitload of WIFOM to the game. This is really bad given current game state.

I will grant that claiming GS is a really weird thing for mafia to do though.


Exactly. Why would I do this as mafia? I'm making as much noise right now as possible. Mafia wouldn't do this. If people are annoyed with me that is ok. I don't want town to burn a lynch on me.


Well they would because, as I said, it causes WIFOM about “were you RBed? Why aren’t you dead yet? Are you mafia or just really careless town?” And so forth.

You arguing WIFOM and setup in lieu of talking about players is suspicious. And that has nothing to do with claim. Go find mafia. Talk about what you found when rereading. I don’t care just stop talking about blues pls.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 10 2018 10:40 GMT
#1075
On April 10 2018 19:38 Holyflare wrote:
I chose calix


So you think the team is Calix/CH/Eversince then?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 10 2018 11:03 GMT
#1079
On April 10 2018 19:59 Tubesock wrote:
Voted Calex.

Calex and Skynx are my top scum. Not sure on the third.


This would be less offensive if you hadn’t spelled my name wrong lol.
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