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On April 14 2018 11:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 10:36 ExO_ wrote:
I hadnt considered gf, this is the only reasoning id buy for the check to be innaccurate— but it changes very little. It still means scum is there, confirmed. In theory you could have checked a rayn GF against a framed HF. It isn't the scenario I'm working with but you get the idea. I think parity cop is quite weak when you don't prime your check with a townie who is confirmed through flip or outstanding townieness and generally speaking only starts being useful from the third check on. So while you believe your check to be really meaningful...It doesn't have to be to everyone else. Which is why I don't agree that voting off HF + rayn automatically makes everyone scummy just cause you checked them. I wish that was the case as I really want to lynch both of them, but the reality isn't that. Either way I have given up on this game cause rayn + HF just can say and do whatever they want without being considered for mafia by a vast majority of townies. I won't be lynched and this is possibly my last forum game ever. So you can put together these statements to figure out what that means.
Rayn GF vs Framed HF means one is scum...still.
Honestly I’m frustrated as hell at your defeatist attitude. WTF is wrong with you. Work with me here, we have scum between HF and Rayn, which is it?
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This is a joke. Mafia has complete control of the game at this point. I feel no desire to continue trying.
Well done by scum team to convince town that the miller or framer scenario has to be what happened therefore we should just ignore HF/Rayn and focus on anybody else.
honestly great scum game from HF. If HF was town he would’ve been dead by now.
Part of me wants to rage vote myself, but nah. My vote will stay parked on HF in the hopes town will pull its head out of its ass. But I have 0 faith this will happen.
gg well played scum.
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##Unvote
Vote: Rayn
And Rayn if you’re town you deserve this and we deserve to lose. Coming into the thread saying “all the town played scummy so im not responsible for my vote, its the way they played they were stupid” is such bullshit. Sorry not everyone is a good enough mafia player for your standards that its the fault of everyone else you couldnt change your reads.
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had confirmed scum between HF and Rayn, choose to ignore it. Town deserves to lose.
gg
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On April 16 2018 04:57 Vivax wrote:Whoever is town on this please find another game to play.
Nah itll just be “its not my fault, everyone else played bad and was scummy!”
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On April 16 2018 12:39 currentlyhomeless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2018 09:37 Holyflare wrote:
Is everyone in this game fucking mafia or do you guys just not understand democracy?????? yes the only non mafia in this game are me tube and rayn or maybe the jole is we are all town and there are no mafia at all. every night one person just randomly gets killed and in the end ff was just trollign us all along this explains why we lynch obvious scum and they fucking flip green
maybe if you keep lyncing “obvious scum” and they keep flipping green, maybe the problem isn’t with the people flipping but with you!
Nah your ego can’t handle that you’re wrong though, its every other players fault.
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HF or Rayn, b/c one of them is scum
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Rayn/CH if gf in game HF, if not, oats.
lynching outside of HF/Rayn is silly. If we lynched one today and it was wrong, we’d come into today with a guaranteed scum lynch. Instead we’re in lylo....or you guys will be.
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On April 16 2018 20:07 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2018 20:04 ExO_ wrote:
Rayn/CH if gf in game HF, if not, oats.
lynching outside of HF/Rayn is silly. If we lynched one today and it was wrong, we’d come into today with a guaranteed scum lynch. Instead we’re in lylo....or you guys will be. Wait, I'm not sure which names go with which mafia player possibility. Formatting unclear. Also if you are not shot tonight then you will get your wish tomorrow. Because town all has to vote together and you will never vote for anyone outside of those two.
If there GF in game:
Rayn/HF/CH
If no GF:
Rayn/CH/Oats
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On April 16 2018 20:30 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2018 20:26 Calix wrote:On April 16 2018 20:16 Tubesock wrote:On April 16 2018 20:09 Calix wrote:On April 16 2018 20:08 Tubesock wrote:
I’m most likely voting Oats tomorrow.
I don’t know about the rest. I think CH and Calix are town. Vivax too. And HF.
Bleh. You still think CH is town for the mind-melding stuff, right? What did you make of his latest posts? Not mind melding really. He set up a play that in theory would force a scum rayn with a gun to shoot because we were going to lynch him the next day. I don’t actually think even if scum rayn had the gun that he would use it unless it was game ending as he would be scum claiming if there were two kills. So not effective but I liked the idea so went with it. Sure a scum could do that subtle play to pocket someone but that seems like a stretch to me. Better types of plays to be had. For some reason I had to reread this post a few times before I understood what you were referring to. I just disregarded the idea since D3 policy lynch + scum-claiming if he shot + not really scum-read at that point meant it was unlikely rayn would die over the gun thing alone since the best play for mafia!rayn there would be to not shoot still and talk your way out of it. So dunno how credible that is really. I rarely think in terms of 'plays' so I took those posts at face value. As for skimming the thread and wrapping yourself in tinfoil, I've been there  Yeah there really was a zero chance scum rayn would use his gun unless it ended the game. Plus, I think mafia would have been dumb to not rb ES there. Town folk lie all the time about who they’re giving toys to.
You’re seriously suggesting ES lied about who he gave gun to? Really? Did you read ES.
Game is over if there’s framer. Here’s the Scenarios:
Assume Scum can’t have Role Blocker AND Framer.
1) Scum have Framer, not RB. This means Rayn has a gun, and lied about not having it. No town motivation to lie about it.
2) Assume Role Blocker not framer: This means my cop check cannot be wrong. Means HF or Rayn is scum, and if one is GF both are.
We have to hope scum has role blocker and blocked ES night 1.
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We’re fucking idiots for not realizing this until now. Framer means Rayn lied about not having gun. Anybody saying my check had to be wrong, should have also been suggesting Rayn is a liar.
How the fuck did we not realize this sooner
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Then why the fuck isnt TS screaming for Rayns head. If you believe in Role Blocker, you believe my check. There’s no alternative here
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Thats your takeaway TS?
Why the fuck aren’t you crying for Rayn or HFs head? Why is there a framer or a RB TS.
If you believe ES was role blocked. why the fuck did u ignore my check
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On April 16 2018 20:52 Calix wrote:
Why can't Roleblocker and Godfather/ Framer both be in the setup? I'm confused.
What’s the setup here? Parity Cop and Gunsmith vs Roleblocker+Framer? That’s too much in my opinion, and I don’t believe thats the setup.
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oh right TS claim Veteran......hmmmm
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wait why would you claim Veteran unprovoked day 2?
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On April 16 2018 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am going to hold the game hostage tomorrow.  I will get tired of arguing with these newer people who can't tell scum motivation from town motivation and run like headless chickens calling every player mafia in a row and then concede as town.
how do you know ull be here tomorrow?
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On April 16 2018 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
oh and i also have a gun.
then shoot HF.
If you’re scum we already lost
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On April 16 2018 21:35 Holyflare wrote:Then lynch rayn, jesus fuck. Just look at the last cycle from a mafia perspective. Town skynx/town hf up for lynch, what is mafia gonna do? Shit all that's what. Who did shit all? Rayn, oats, you, skynx, ch, vivax (what did he actually do in regards to skynx?). Since you are claimed blue then you've got oats/rayn/ch/vivax. Yet you assume I'm the mafia?
If he’s scum with gun its gg
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