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On April 09 2018 21:36 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 21:27 Calix wrote:On April 09 2018 21:22 Vivax wrote:On April 09 2018 17:19 n00bKing wrote:On April 09 2018 01:05 Calix wrote:
Half of rayn's posts seem divorced from anything going on in the thread. I can hardly tell what he is referring to half the time since he seems to mix up who he's talking to when he responds to people. Independent of anything else, this for sure is true. I had already noticed that his posts are more difficult to follow than anyone else's, before reading this from you. And that's with me reading the thread chronologically; I'm sure it'll be even worse if anyone tries to look into his filter later in the game. If he's Town, then the fact that his posts will later be almost impossible for other Town players to look at, read, and understand, would not be great for his win condition. But if he's Scum, the fact that his posts will later be indecipherable for Town players would not hurt his win condition at all. I find rayns posts very coherent to read. They are just long, but he doesn't beat around the bush. He is also town so I will defend him to my last breath. You also started posting after I voted for you. Coincidence or caught pants down? Either way the fact you are discrediting the way rayn posts really puts you in a bad light for me. I think Calix is town too but busy annoying the raynzo for false reasons and you just chime in taking sides lazily with the above post. What game are you reading? rayn's early posts were not 'very coherent'. Multiple players have agreed with this sentiment. If I was annoying rayn for ""false"" reasons then how am I town? O_______o I've read his big post though where he concludes with a bunch of reads and the second post after where he readresses something he explained poorly. All of that combined screams super town to me. And it is coherent. Why should I only focus on his early stuff where he was at work instead?
That has nothing to do with anything I said. I was talking about how his early posts were not coherent. n00bking made his 'I agree that rayn's posts are hard to understand' early on in his catch-up.
The quality of his later posts is irrelevant (✿ヘᴥヘ)
And don't think just because you asked a rhetorical question about rayn means I'm going to forget that cute evasion of my own question (ʘ‿ʘ✿) If I have false reasons for accusing rayn then how am I town again??? Especially since you ALSO accused me of being full of shite and 'inventing facts' to attack you (◕‿◕✿)
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On April 09 2018 21:44 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 21:36 Calix wrote:On April 09 2018 21:32 ExO_ wrote:On April 09 2018 21:23 Calix wrote:Took the liberty of making a vote count and town is well organised innit. Eversince, who are you gonna vote for? Would also like ExO_'s other mafia reads, or whoever he would vote for outside of his "placeholder" vote. Day 1 Vote count
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Eversince (3): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_ Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless GlowingBear (1): Skynx n00bking (1): Vivax Vivax (1): n00bking Skynx (1): Tubesock ExO_ (0): raynpelikoneetRaynpelikoneet (0): CalixNot Voting:Holyflare, Eversince, Damdred
Currently Eversince is set to be lynched.
Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link) Right now I don’t think I have any scum reads I’m super confident in but I’m not a fan of Damdreds 4 posts Don't care about 'confident' reads. It's D1. Who else do you think has "above average odds for being mafia"? Why don't you like Damdred's posts? Damdred has essentially said nothing. He has one post greater than a sentence, and its saying that he doesnt think GB could fake enthusiam. The Damdred I remember is wordy and analytical. He’s not present at all right now. I could see scum Damdred coasting the first couple days, and then try to make some excuse for it
He did say he was going to be busy. Don't think his crappy posts are terribly indicative.
Since you yourself say you have weak reads, I shall take a different tack. I'd like your opinion on (what you think) the 'big topics' in the thread and what they might say about the players involved. You have not really commented on any of those, preferring to give town-reads on Vivax/ HF and a scum-lean on Damdred if I recall well.
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On April 09 2018 21:49 ExO_ wrote:
@Calix, @Vivax I think you guys need to take a step back. I think this is TvT. Don’t tunnel or start name calling.
The hell?
I asked for a response to a question he dodged. He doesn't even think I'm mafia (for reasons). It's not like we're here for a 1v1 mate.
HF why didn't you like that Vivax post?
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On April 09 2018 21:56 ExO_ wrote:I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail?
His evasion of his weird-arse read on me.
He called my reasons for scum!rayn "false".
He had also accused me of making facts up to scum-read him.
WHY DOES HE THINK I'M TOWN?
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On April 09 2018 22:02 Eversince wrote:
You guys are stupid. Kill the fucking Smith. Great idea.
Dude, people are talking about killing Vivax and you do this???
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On April 09 2018 22:05 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 22:03 AMG wrote:Day 1 Vote count
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Eversince (3): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_ Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster Vivax (2): n00bKing, Holyflare Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless GlowingBear (1): Skynx n00bking (1): Vivax Skynx (1): Tubesock ExO_ (0): raynpelikoneetRaynpelikoneet (0): CalixNot Voting (2):Eversince, Damdred
Currently Eversince is set to be lynched.
Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link) I do this because I need to sleep. I am out of time. I am lynch. I need to change this. I will die for this which sucks but whatever.
I voted for Vivax just before he posted VC.
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On April 09 2018 22:05 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 21:58 Calix wrote:On April 09 2018 21:56 ExO_ wrote:On April 09 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad. I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail? His evasion of his weird-arse read on me. He called my reasons for scum!rayn "false". He had also accused me of making facts up to scum-read him. WHY DOES HE THINK I'M TOWN? The impression I get is this: He thinks you’re wrong, but that it doesn’t make you scum. However the language both of you are using has looked like its getting more heated. In particular right now you seem really frustrated and angry Calix I’ll take another look at Vivaxs filter but he seems towny to me. In the mean time, what do you think of Holyflare right now Calix?
I'm not feeling anything in particular. I think people misread the language I use as being 'angry' when it's just how I talk. If I was actually angry then it would be obvious.
I agree with his Vivax posts. However I don't really trust him. He accused rayn after I did. Now he accuses Vivax alongside me. Looks like a pattern. Nothing substantial to back it up, just wary.
I would probably not want to lynch him today though. Vivax looks well bad even without HF's points.
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On April 09 2018 22:17 Vivax wrote:
My guess is Skynx/HF/N00bking
If one of these is wrong, Calix is a balls to the wall mafia. But not on D1, she'd have earned that much.
So I've gone from 'town with false reasons to attack rayn' to 'potential ballsy mafia when if one of your reads is wrong', have I? You have fun with that one.
I checked your filter to see why n00b was still in there, because you initially voted for him when he hadn't posted, and your reason for scum-reading him sucks. He made some comments about rayn being hard to understand, therefore he's mafia?
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On April 09 2018 22:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 22:22 Calix wrote:On April 09 2018 22:17 Vivax wrote:
My guess is Skynx/HF/N00bking
If one of these is wrong, Calix is a balls to the wall mafia. But not on D1, she'd have earned that much. So I've gone from 'town with false reasons to attack rayn' to 'potential ballsy mafia when if one of your reads is wrong', have I? You have fun with that one. I checked your filter to see why n00b was still in there, because you initially voted for him when he hadn't posted, and your reason for scum-reading him sucks. He made some comments about rayn being hard to understand, therefore he's mafia? Well his post isn't conclusive. He basically says "rayn writes unintelligible stuff ergo he goes against win con as town and for win con as mafia" but he doesn't go ahead and scum read him for it and remains non committal instead. Being a guy who loves to just say "he can be x or y" as mafia in long overly worded posts as mafia, that makes him mafia to me. And you are not worth considering for me for day 1 lynch. I find you very disruptive to solving the game so far but I can't discern if you are genuinely like that as town or doing it cause it helps your team so I prefer to follow a wait and see approach. Will be more fun to lynch you for last anyway if you are mafia cause it must take a tremendous effort to do what you're doing.
You said you were scum-reading him for discrediting rayn, not for having no conclusion on rayn. Looks like you shifted the topic there.
Questioning players, making cases and following up on unanswered questions is extremely counterproductive to the goal of solving the game. Obviously. You having a laugh mate?
I distinctly recall you making a similar point about me in a game where I was actually mafia. And you didn't go about it like this. I should maybe look into that.
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On April 09 2018 22:31 Eversince wrote:
I parked my vote noob. I don't honestly know if he's scum but I can't get mislynch. I have to try to survive. And out of the options I think noob is the best place.
Admitting Vivax is scum? 
Why did you call my reads 'good' when I'm going hard at Vivax? Who you town-read?
>.>
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On April 09 2018 22:37 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 22:35 Calix wrote:On April 09 2018 22:31 Eversince wrote:
I parked my vote noob. I don't honestly know if he's scum but I can't get mislynch. I have to try to survive. And out of the options I think noob is the best place. Admitting Vivax is scum? Why did you call my reads 'good' when I'm going hard at Vivax? Who you town-read? >.> I agree with your view point to the point I'm offering you a gun. Don't shoot Vivax.
So you're planning to give me a gun tonight, yeah? Not rayn.
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On April 09 2018 22:40 Eversince wrote:
Oh, I might give it to Rayn. I personally trust Rayn to aim it the right direction. But your willingness to rejudge your reads is enough for me to consider you an option to
Something about this claim doesn't add up.
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On April 09 2018 22:40 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 22:40 Eversince wrote:
Oh, I might give it to Rayn. I personally trust Rayn to aim it the right direction. But your willingness to rejudge your reads is enough for me to consider you an option to Something about this claim doesn't add up.
Wait, never mind. Checked OP and realised I am wrong.
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On April 09 2018 22:47 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 22:45 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 09 2018 22:41 Eversince wrote:
I can't qoute it to you ;p, believe me or don't. I don't care. Mafia will kill me tonight. if you are actually town why would mafia kill you maybe I’m dumb but I don’t get it I just claimed a blue.... mafia will kill me. Or next level mafia shit if they have a RB, they can RB me to lead a mislynch cycle 2. I don't know if they have a RB though. If they do not though I will take kp tonight.
Scusi, Miss Eversince, but would you like to take the time to filter-dive a player you think is scum and use your new-found influence to lynch one of your less mainstream reads? Or would you rather talk about blues?
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On April 09 2018 23:00 Eversince wrote:
Fucking lynch me then. At least then I can laugh after the fact.
Then do something instead of talk about blues? srsly
In fact can we just not discuss blues? Someone's going to say something stupid sooner or later, lol.
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You're not the lynch though. Vivax is.
rayn/ ExO_ will probably unvote once they your claim.
There are several hours to go.
This is a site where people randomly bandwagon someone at the last minute.
So I don't really get why you're panicking about being lynched just because some people are questioning the validity of your claim or some shit.
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On April 09 2018 23:14 Eversince wrote:
what makes him mafia HF?
A lack of scummy traits =/= town-read, otherwise one would also town-read, I dunno, Damdred.
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On April 09 2018 23:17 currentlyhomeless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 23:08 Holyflare wrote:
Nobody is voting you because you misread the op. You only have 2 votes and those people are afk. We're starting to re-scum read you because you're pushing the fact you are blue way more than anything else when it was not necessary in the slightest. Nobody really cared about the blue claim, the tide was in fact shifting to vivax so you didn't really need to claim at all in fact.
The scummy vibes come from you restating that you are blue multiple times, telling us what night actions mafia are going to do that make you confirmed, "forgetting" the rber etc etc. why is HF so aware of lynch influence this whole post is just stating facts. my hairs are prickly oh noooooo
I made a similar post to the one you're criticising HF for. Why single his post out while ignoring mine?
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On April 09 2018 23:42 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 23:31 currentlyhomeless wrote:
hmm I need to sleep but there is no one worth sheeping in this game cause HF is scum
sheep me pls
dont disappoint Rayn is likely sheepable but not on ExO, I think that's an incorrect guess. Since rayn also suspects HF of being mafia there is a decent chance that the wagon will get rolling there. We shall see what GB Oats and Damdred think. Could use more Damdred in here as well.
Your rayn sentence is weird. He's currently voting for Eversince. It's a bit odd that you qualify rayn being 'sheepable' by saying you wouldn't vote for ExO_, the person who rayn is most likely to switch his vote to.
I also do not know why you think ExO_ is town aside from "too bad to be scum" (?). What did you make of his latest posts?
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On April 09 2018 23:51 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 23:47 Calix wrote:On April 09 2018 23:42 Vivax wrote:On April 09 2018 23:31 currentlyhomeless wrote:
hmm I need to sleep but there is no one worth sheeping in this game cause HF is scum
sheep me pls
dont disappoint Rayn is likely sheepable but not on ExO, I think that's an incorrect guess. Since rayn also suspects HF of being mafia there is a decent chance that the wagon will get rolling there. We shall see what GB Oats and Damdred think. Could use more Damdred in here as well. Your rayn sentence is weird. He's currently voting for Eversince. It's a bit odd that you qualify rayn being 'sheepable' by saying you wouldn't vote for ExO_, the person who rayn is most likely to switch his vote to. I also do not know why you think ExO_ is town aside from "too bad to be scum" (?). What did you make of his latest posts? Given ES claimed GS there is no way she is getting lynched today. That leaves ExO, HF and maybe you as the next candidates for rayn. Since ExO is a no-go for me atm you can guess where I'll be trying to be ending up with rayn, provided he trusts me enough.
If you're 'trying to end up on X' with rayn then that's not you thinking rayn is sheepable, is it?
And why is ExO_ a no-go? Are you ever going to explain your reads? Because I'm this close to parking my vote on you forever.
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