EPTOn April 09 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad.
Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad.
I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail?
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ExO_
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I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail? | ||
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On April 09 2018 21:58 Calix wrote: His evasion of his weird-arse read on me. He called my reasons for scum!rayn "false". He had also accused me of making facts up to scum-read him. WHY DOES HE THINK I'M TOWN? The impression I get is this: He thinks you’re wrong, but that it doesn’t make you scum. However the language both of you are using has looked like its getting more heated. In particular right now you seem really frustrated and angry Calix I’ll take another look at Vivaxs filter but he seems towny to me. In the mean time, what do you think of Holyflare right now Calix? | ||
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ExO_
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Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break | ||
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On April 10 2018 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I really dont like Vivax lynch. If i have to i will save him by voting Skynx but i dont really think he is mafia either. I would suggest strongly against voting for Calix. I have no idea about what noobking is because i dont rrally feel like he has said much anything. Glowingbear started being terr8ble but thats probably town terrible. I still want to lynch exo for what i have said earlier. ##unvote ##vote exo_ Enlighten me, why do you want to lynch me? I have 20 minutes left on my lunch. And side note trying to read n00bking filter is obonoxious as hell. I’ve never quite seen somebody consantly feel the need to use 20 words when 2 would suffice. Loves to bash TL mafia and toot his own horn like he’s the second coming in TL mafia, but isn’t really helping anybody. Its very hard to be objective towards him with this attitude. And any good player would know that constantly filling the thread with your own ego is more of a distraction to town than it is helping them. | ||
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I think eversince is telling the truth. A reading mistake like that is exactly the kind of thing that would happen to me. I think he should have to announce who he is passing the gun to in the thread, and have the player he passes it to confirm they receive it. In this case I think he should give it to HF, as I fully believe he's town. If HF doesn't get the gun, we lynch eversince. | ||
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On April 10 2018 20:09 Calix wrote: Actually Exo post scummy because he’s trying to make night actions really obvious. And he wants Eversince lynched if Hf doesn’t get gun which ignores RBer possibility. I am not voting in poll. And people shouldn’t waste time discussing about guns. I think deciding whether or not eversince is really gunsmith is worth the time. And I think your voting at the end of day yesterday was really damn weird. Ending by unvoting at the end makes no sense to me whatsoever. | ||
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ExO_
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Post like this: On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote: "I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir. Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense. You stop short of calling HF scum here. You say his action is scummy but don't call him scum. Like wtf is that? I'm not sure who else I'd pair you with right now, but you're at the top of my scum list right now. | ||
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On April 10 2018 20:27 Calix wrote: Like Exo, you have not made waves with any of your posts. You only make safe reads like calling 4 post Damdred mafia and now agreeing with most of thread that I am mafia. There is nothing risky about anything you have said for entire game. You seem content to sit back and not game solve. You even admit you have no other scum reads outside of me. Okay so call me scum then -- make a case. You're hesitating on the last part quite a bit. You've been hesitating a lot throughout the game Look at your post history -- you try to get others to join you on things like a wagon on me for example towards EoD, without placing your own vote there. It's almost as if you didn't care who was lynched at the end of day. And quite frankly, your posts have a very negative tone. I'm not sure if this is intentional, but it comes across as very abrasive. Lastly, I think its bullshit to say I'm doing nothing risky. The hell do you want me to do that's risky? What kind of read right now would be risky -- and how does making a "risky" read make me townier? I don't have all day to read the thread, but to say I'm not trying to solve the game is wrong. | ||
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On April 09 2018 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think i wnat to do this. ##vote ExO_ The timing of this post added to what i said here: seems like a very convenient thing to do as mafia. I am quite sure he was just trying to follow the thread sentiment with his "own added reasoning". But, once again, the reasoning never makes any sense. I read this post as saying my reasoning never makes sense, and thus he's scum reading me for it. But if my reasoning doesn't ever make sense (aka last game) when I was town, why am I scum for it now? Furthermore he was happy to just park his vote on me and afk, and do nothing else towards EoD. He's said hardly anything sense. I think I Calix/Rayn are two scum. | ||
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On April 10 2018 20:39 Calix wrote: Your tone seems to have shifted dramatically after being called out. I’ve made my case. Several times. Doesn’t need to be a long case. You accuse me of being disruptive but you’re also not sure if my “abrasiveness” is AI? Internal inconsistency detected. It’s not just what reads you have, it’s how you present/push them. And I don’t get the sense you care all that much about them. Like this post is the most passionate one you have made all game. My tone has shifted dramatically after being called again -- I disagree, but again does this make me scum? Are you scum reading me or not? I'm not really sure because you aren't calling me scum. You want to call me out for not caring about reads, but you aren't willing to call me scum right now even. AKA you know I'm town and don't want to commit to a scum read on me. wtf do you mean by the AI line? You're being disruptive and your posts are very abrasive. What is hard to understand here, and where does the AI line come from? I don't give a shit about whether or not you agree or disagree with my reads. I'm not a super great player who can read others -- I don't think I've ever found scum day 1. So I'm sorry if I'm not making a case complete with great evidence and reads from past games, I'm not that player. You seem to be far more guilty of not sticking to reads and actually commit to them, than I am. | ||
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On April 10 2018 20:48 Calix wrote: Another reactive read but sure I’ll take baby steps. You are also breaking every IRONY meter within ten metres. You STILL have not explained your afk vote on noob????? Yet you call Rayn mafia for behaviour YOU did! Right before I voted, the votes looked something like this: Vivax (3): n00bKing, Holyflare, Calix, Eversince (1): Calix (2): Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless GlowingBear (1): Skynx n00bking (2): Skynx (3): Tubesock, Glowingbear, Vivax ExO_ (0): Raynpelikoneet (0): Not Voting (0): I do not, and did not think Vivax was scum. I was not a big fan of voting with GB on Skynx. I filter dove n00b and didn't like what I saw. I was on my phone during my lunch break but you can see my post on this here: + Show Spoiler + On April 10 2018 02:41 ExO_ wrote: Enlighten me, why do you want to lynch me? I have 20 minutes left on my lunch. And side note trying to read n00bking filter is obonoxious as hell. I’ve never quite seen somebody consantly feel the need to use 20 words when 2 would suffice. Loves to bash TL mafia and toot his own horn like he’s the second coming in TL mafia, but isn’t really helping anybody. Its very hard to be objective towards him with this attitude. And any good player would know that constantly filling the thread with your own ego is more of a distraction to town than it is helping them. So I voted for n00b. I find it hard to believe if you are reading my filter closely you didn't see my progression here. | ||
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On April 10 2018 20:56 Tubesock wrote: I have a really tough time with your eod. I’ve only seen two people drop a vote like that and freeze. They were both mafia. I also don’t think I’d ever agree about your reasoning to jump off Vivax. That being said, Exo’s being pretty opportunistic here and I’d jump his ass pretty hard if you didn’t have that eod you did. Or I thought your reasoning was logical. Or you still held the vote. You have 55 hours or whatever to make up for it though. Exo looks more scummy than he was before. I don’t like his rayn attack either. Damdred’s been totally worthless and forgettable. He vanishes a lot due to real life though which is sad, but it’s still anti town. Okay then what do you think of Rayn? I think he's been pretty absent this game, and generally willing to just chill and do nothing. Do you think he's town, or what and why? I don't know Damdred's real life circumstances, but I don't think he should get a pass much longer. | ||
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On April 10 2018 21:01 Calix wrote: I have barely filter dived this game tbh I don’t remember why you didn’t like GB lemme go check. How the hell can you criticize my vote on n00b without reading my filter?!??!?!?!? | ||
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On April 10 2018 21:07 Tubesock wrote: I’ve been saying he’s town all game. My reasonings haven’t changed at all. I’m willing to bet his “chill and do nothing” is him living a life outside of mafia. Otherwise known as just busy. And frankly, you can not criticize him for not being around all the time. On the contrary, I think his read on me is weak, but towards EoD and since he hasn't done very much. He kinda afked his vote on me and left. I get having a life outside of mafia, but this Rayn doesn't seem like Town Rayn trying to solve the game. Humor me -- based on the past 24 hours, why do you think Rayn is town? | ||
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On April 10 2018 21:08 Calix wrote: I saw you place a vote in vote thread without posting in game thread duh. Do you really think I am going to lie about that unnecessarily? Anyway I checked your filter for GB stuff. You called him out fairly early but then later said you “didn’t have scum reads you were confident in” in the post you talked about Damdred. Then you say something about preferring ES to GB/TS. I didn’t get impression you were that skeeved at GB vote as opposed to you maybe sheepish ES or something but it is not entirely implausible your explanation is truthful. You saw me place a vote in the vote thread, but didn't place a vote in the game thread: Clear something up for me real quickly. Did you see me in real time place my vote in the vote thread? | ||
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On April 10 2018 21:16 Calix wrote: I don’t remember when I saw your vote lol. I figured you’d come back and say something because an unexplained vote is obviously scummy and obviously looks bad if you get what I mean. So you admitted earlier you hadn't read my filter. How would you know why I voted n00b without reading my filter? You criticized me for voting n00bking but never read my filter to see why I voted him -- and have tried to use my vote on n00b to say I'm scum. I don't believe you. I don't believe you were waiting for an explanation for my vote on n00b, I believe you're trying to use my vote after the fact on EoD to say I was scum, when I'm not. You're scum Calix | ||
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On April 10 2018 21:30 Calix wrote: Shallow analysis at best. “Trying to use my vote after the fact on EOD to say I was scum” is generic. Can be said about anything. You haven’t really shown why it would come from mafia me over town me. And there is nothing scummy about spotting a vote without a thread post, saying “that looks obviously scummy” post lynch and deciding to wait for a response from you. my filter was not large. Town questioning my vote on n00b would care why I voted n00b and read my filter. Scum wouldn’t care and would just throw suspicion on me and “wait for my response” | ||
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On April 10 2018 21:35 Tubesock wrote: .... she posted about your naked/ninja vote a longtime ago. It’s definitely not after the fact. Well, far after anyway. This doesn’t change the core of my argument: she questioned my vote but couldn’t take the time to read my then 1.5 page filter. aka she didn’t care why I voted n00b. She is now using the fact that n00b was town (after the fact he flipped town) to say my static vote was scummy. Aka she’s scum not concerned with understanding my motivation for posting but rather with pointing suspicion at me. | ||
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