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currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 11:30 GMT
#3089
On April 20 2018 08:10 currentlyhomeless wrote:
ah mother of cack

ok tube rayn

we got this

https://i.imgur.com/wizKsZL.gifv


the dog is me tube

😈😈😈😈
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 11:33 GMT
#3092
On April 20 2018 20:14 currentlyhomeless wrote:
btw since vivax died last night scum know my role now

since tube is bussing rayn that prob means tube is the rber and I won’t be able to save anyone tmrw


HF did you read before you posted?

If I hadn’t gotten RBed though actually we would’ve lost so actually scum got really unlucky here

cause me and vivax and rayn would’ve just lynched you
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 11:36 GMT
#3093
On April 20 2018 20:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2018 19:49 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 20 2018 19:27 Holyflare wrote:
Why didn't you claim to get tubesock lynched on skynx day?

Why have you REPEATEDLY said the team is me and calix when tubesock is confirmed mafia to you?

Jesus that claim.


btw you need a good explanation for this post hf


Why do I need to explain this? You think there's 4 blues in a 13 player game????


are you serious

this is why I can’t read you properly.

first you actually think I am kush or sicklucker or df or whatever other scrub

go and filter me, and read the first posts I make in this thread pregame where I fucking talk about balance.

The number of blues FF had in the setup was absurd and actually I thought gunsmith was weak so it didn’t surprise me that he added it.

Gunsmith is swingy, JK & vet balances it. Parity cop is normal.

or so I thought. I’m not gonna read someone scum on balance when the host’s open setups were town stacked to bein with
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 11:52 GMT
#3096
On April 20 2018 20:44 Holyflare wrote:
I don't believe almost half the game is a role. Simple as that I'm afraid.


it has happened before.

one of my first games on this forum actually:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/263036-my-little-pony-mafia

and hammer, 4 scum and 6 blues:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/303505-hammer-mini-mafia

and this one too:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/321159-c9-mini-mafia

I’ve hosted a couple games myself with similar setups, though the gunsmith role is kind of abnormal
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 11:54 GMT
#3097
but anyway feel free to throw the game cause you think the right play is to auto scumread tube (and why not exo??) in that situation
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 11:55 GMT
#3098
like it’s actually really bizarre that you said tube specifically there
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 12:19 GMT
#3101
On April 20 2018 21:10 Holyflare wrote:
You can't talk to me about throwing the game either. You've been saying everything myself and calix have been saying is specifically mafia orientated when it's likely just not.


because you say I’m misrepresenting it when I know I’m not!

actually stepping back, us butting heads is what made me reread. I reread a lot because I was so confused.

Anyway ignore the balance aspect for a second and hear me out. We clearly don’t agree on the balance aspect and you can’t say that it isn’t possible because I’ve literally hosted a game with that many blues.

these are the only things that you need to think about

1. why would I be so sure vivax would live yesterday
2. if I were scum why would I shoot vivax and then claim I’m a jailer who protted him on the same night. If I were scum I could’ve just shot Tube and gotten you lynched with rayn.

there are plenty of other reasons too but these are the main ones
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 12:26 GMT
#3103
like seriously just put yourself in my shoes this game.

n1 I thought you were scum, protted vivax and surprised GB (??) died instead. So I treated you as town. I actually then flipped on Vivax because he seemed to not be reading any of my posts. I more or less 100% read rayn as town because he caught exactly the same things I did on ever, and his play on d2 was really good. and because of that waffled on you (honestly for shitty team balance reasons but w/e)

out of the two claims I initially thought exo was scummy because the check didn’t make sense since I thought you were both town. But exo didn’t seem scum either so I figured I would just let it be and see how it played out.

however I was suspicious of both you and calix for crumbs because if one of you then claimed I would have certainly claimed myself. that’s one reason why I was talking about outing the cop and why I said I thought you voting rayn in that fashion was scummy.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 12:27 GMT
#3104
On April 20 2018 21:25 Holyflare wrote:
And how does mafia know your role to rb you if they think tube is a blue veteran in the world you're saying 4 blues exist?


mafia knows I’m not lying because vivax died and I just claimed.

tube obviously is not town vet here anymore which is why 1. he didn’t die and 2. why Vivax died. They RBed me
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 12:37 GMT
#3108
On April 20 2018 21:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is this CH?


your worst nightmare
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 12:51 GMT
#3112
On April 20 2018 21:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2018 21:27 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 20 2018 21:25 Holyflare wrote:
And how does mafia know your role to rb you if they think tube is a blue veteran in the world you're saying 4 blues exist?


mafia knows I’m not lying because vivax died and I just claimed.

tube obviously is not town vet here anymore which is why 1. he didn’t die and 2. why Vivax died. They RBed me


Why did you claim though? It's not to throw shade on anyone, you claiming doesn't change my alignment?

In fact if you got rbd last night and tube was also blue like you spent the day talking about there'd be 0% chance I'm mafia because you would have been role copped and I wouldn't be pushing someone that would claim jk. Calix too.


I don’t actually follow what you are saying here.

I waffled between snap claiming after I read the daypost (which incidentally I posted before reading it) and waiting to claim.

I decided to wait because I wanted to see what tube would do. If I snap claimed I felt I had less chance of getting a good read on tube’s alignment. at the time I thought either you are scum with calix or you are scum with tube. I knew tube would be around when I am so I decided okay, let’s talk. but he refused. he’s straight up not considering alternatives.

as for why I didn’t wait until the next day to claim, I knew that claiming today would force people to talk today and allow us to solve the game today. Also given that I now basically knew tube was scum after he spent several hours not posting at all, claiming now would also force his scum buddy to talk, and if tube is certainly scum then you being town actually is plausible and even probably the most likely because tube was not around for lynch.

and again I don’t follow the last part. maybe they rolecopped me? why would that have anything to do with my claim timing
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 12:52 GMT
#3113
On April 20 2018 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk what is happening but i don't believe that claim.
##vote currentlyhomeless


uhh rofl

there’s a red check between you and HF and you vote me

yeah okay
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 12:59 GMT
#3114
oh I see what you mean.

you’re saying I should have assumed I got rolecopped after vivax died and so immediately thought you were town after flip?

I actually didn’t think about the possibility of a rolecop, I didn’t really think about why I would be RBed at all actually. And even if I figured I got rolecopped I don’t think my immediate conclusion would have been “HF must be town” because I was too tunneled to think about what that would mean.

also not like either of you pushed me d4 anyway.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 13:14 GMT
#3116
On April 20 2018 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck if this game is decided by a miller. That will be really sad.

But the only motivation i can come up with for CH is that he knows he already won. He isn't making any sense with any person as mafia to do that, but there is absolutely no town motivation ever to do that, and he is not a jailkeeper.


it’s a manner claim? rofl
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 13:20 GMT
#3118
anyway off to bed. as I am busy tomorrow morning and evening I’ll only have a few hours, feel free to ask whatever you want in the meantime

the scum clearly don’t want to discuss anything
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 22:50 GMT
#3135
On April 21 2018 06:49 Calix wrote:
After some cursory thought, I'm thinking my reads haven't changed much.

Sure, CH's claim seems too dumb to come from scum but it also doesn't make any sense coming from town. His uncritical acceptance of Tubesock's D3 claim, for example, does not seem legitimate to me. You can evaluate Tubesock and conclude he's more likely town after filter-diving or something but thinking he's just straight up town despite his 2nd Protective claim doesn't square up from a Jailkeeper's POV to me.

In short, I'm concluding that if there's no town motivation behind the claim then it must be mafia even if it makes little sense from mafia perspective.

Rayn can still be mafia because he's seemingly just done a total 180 on his HF read and now thinks one of HF/ himself is Miller (?) but couldn't care less who the hypothetical second mafia in a CH/??? world would be.

This post isn't that intelligent, insightful or even necessarily coherent but I'm too tired right now to care. If Tubesock and/ or HF are mafia then they can count themselves blessed for having the worst town evah!

##vote raynpelikoneet


have you actually read my posts? Like you say I misrepresent you and then you write that I accepted tube as town with no critical thinking lol.

Go back and reread my posts. I toneread tube as town going into d3, before he claimed. Specifically, I thought max one of tube/exo/skynx was scum. Also due to the way

D3 tube and exo claim, we killed Skynx. I didn’t really talk about it much in thread except for the miller shit, but I was skeptical of exo at that point more than I was skeptical of tube.

However I decided to accept both of the claims eventually because I thought the timing was too good to be scum. Clearly I was wrong.

After that, we flipped skynx and I had to reeval. I became less confident in all my townreads, but that’s not something I talk about in thread because townreads are easily manipulable. At the time I thought Vivax might be scum due to the fact that I felt he wasn’t reading the thread at all.

Anyway you can go back and reread my posts if you like. Town motivation for my claim is pretty clear. Vivax posted some scenarios before dying. I actually thought he had solved the game with HF & Calix scumteam and that’s why he was going to get shot. If I were scum I would have no reason to shoot Vivax, and then claim jailer when I could have just shot tube and then voted HF with Vivax and rayn.

currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 22:56 GMT
#3136
also Calix, Vivax hadn’t changed his opinion all game.

If I am scum why would I post before day that I think everyone will be alive? If it’s because I am scum, then first of all I would know that not everyone will be alive, and then I claim jailer with a prot on Vivax anyway?? That’s just stupid and makes no sense.

If I were scum and tube is really a vet why wouldn’t I just leave Vivax alive by shooting tube so that my claim comes out stronger?

Like look at Tube’s reaction to my claim. He doesn’t try to refute anything, he just laughs at me saying I protted Vivax and Vivax died on the same night as if that means I’m lying.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 23:01 GMT
#3137
On April 21 2018 07:50 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2018 06:49 Calix wrote:
After some cursory thought, I'm thinking my reads haven't changed much.

Sure, CH's claim seems too dumb to come from scum but it also doesn't make any sense coming from town. His uncritical acceptance of Tubesock's D3 claim, for example, does not seem legitimate to me. You can evaluate Tubesock and conclude he's more likely town after filter-diving or something but thinking he's just straight up town despite his 2nd Protective claim doesn't square up from a Jailkeeper's POV to me.

In short, I'm concluding that if there's no town motivation behind the claim then it must be mafia even if it makes little sense from mafia perspective.

Rayn can still be mafia because he's seemingly just done a total 180 on his HF read and now thinks one of HF/ himself is Miller (?) but couldn't care less who the hypothetical second mafia in a CH/??? world would be.

This post isn't that intelligent, insightful or even necessarily coherent but I'm too tired right now to care. If Tubesock and/ or HF are mafia then they can count themselves blessed for having the worst town evah!

##vote raynpelikoneet


have you actually read my posts? Like you say I misrepresent you and then you write that I accepted tube as town with no critical thinking lol.

Go back and reread my posts. I toneread tube as town going into d3, before he claimed. Specifically, I thought max one of tube/exo/skynx was scum. Also due to the way

D3 tube and exo claim, we killed Skynx. I didn’t really talk about it much in thread except for the miller shit, but I was skeptical of exo at that point more than I was skeptical of tube.

However I decided to accept both of the claims eventually because I thought the timing was too good to be scum. Clearly I was wrong.

After that, we flipped skynx and I had to reeval. I became less confident in all my townreads, but that’s not something I talk about in thread because townreads are easily manipulable. At the time I thought Vivax might be scum due to the fact that I felt he wasn’t reading the thread at all.

Anyway you can go back and reread my posts if you like. Town motivation for my claim is pretty clear. Vivax posted some scenarios before dying. I actually thought he had solved the game with HF & Calix scumteam and that’s why he was going to get shot. If I were scum I would have no reason to shoot Vivax, and then claim jailer when I could have just shot tube and then voted HF with Vivax and rayn.



also due to the way ->

also due to the way the policy lynch bit went down, I was convinced about tube being town.

Actually in hindsight given that Vivax didn’t understand what I was trying to do but Tube did, it had the opposite effect that I intended. Maybe that’s because rayn & tube had already thought about the RBing story, since Tube basically never thought I was serious about the policy lynch, and that’s the smartest thing he’s done all game.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 23:25 GMT
#3139
On April 21 2018 08:09 Tubesock wrote:
CH making the good effort. This is probably the only possible play you have left to do. Get the wifom going on my claim to possibly get me lynched in final three. Or switching my vote to HF due rayn bussing you here.

Best part is if we lynch you now, there will still be enough doubt of why rayn voted you instead of HF for a chance to win in final three.

It’s really good.


why would anyone want to lynch me here

the lynch is not changing between rayn and HF

and at this point I’m 99% confident it isn’t HF since rayn isn’t bothering to solve the game and neither are you.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 20 2018 23:32 GMT
#3141
On April 14 2018 19:49 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 19:40 Tubesock wrote:
On April 14 2018 19:23 currentlyhomeless wrote:
yo tube I want your opinion

skynx
calix
oats
vivax

which one most likely to be scum?


Skynx, Calix, Vivax, Oats in that order. With Oats townread.


ok

i actually think vivax is best chance for scum today but i think i am tunneled atm


btw take a look at this post I coaxed out of tube

look who he placed last
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