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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 09:43 GMT
#2533
I have an idea. Why don't you tell us what your scum team theory is and explain how it makes sense? I think that would probably help the rest of the thread, don't you think?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 09:55 GMT
#2536
On April 16 2018 18:49 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 18:43 Calix wrote:
I have an idea. Why don't you tell us what your scum team theory is and explain how it makes sense? I think that would probably help the rest of the thread, don't you think?


sure.

me tube and rayn are confirmed. exo is 70% town.

that leaves you, oats, vivax, hf.

of those players you are 100% scum and the others are equally likely at this point.


Saying something over and over again doesn't make it true. Rayn is not confirmed at all and I'm not mafia, let alone "100% scum".

I'm noting that you have not tried to find a world that makes sense. Probably because a world with Calix/ Vivax/ HF or Calix/ Oats/ Vivax or Calix/ Oats/ HF or whatever falls apart like a house of cards.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 10:23 GMT
#2539
On April 16 2018 19:10 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 18:55 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 18:49 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 16 2018 18:43 Calix wrote:
I have an idea. Why don't you tell us what your scum team theory is and explain how it makes sense? I think that would probably help the rest of the thread, don't you think?


sure.

me tube and rayn are confirmed. exo is 70% town.

that leaves you, oats, vivax, hf.

of those players you are 100% scum and the others are equally likely at this point.


Saying something over and over again doesn't make it true. Rayn is not confirmed at all and I'm not mafia, let alone "100% scum".

I'm noting that you have not tried to find a world that makes sense. Probably because a world with Calix/ Vivax/ HF or Calix/ Oats/ Vivax or Calix/ Oats/ HF or whatever falls apart like a house of cards.


actually all of those scum teams make sense

esp due to the d2 vote, someone was probably bussing Calix d2 cause scum almost never 100% aligns their votes in a 2 wagon scenario. since skynx flipped and tube & exo are prob town that means oats is likely to be scum.

exo is 70% cause if he is still alive on d5 it was probably a fake claim. so that will resolve itself since if he’s alive d4 hes more likely to be scum but he’s not the most likely.

assuming exo is town the real question is whether its vivax or hf who is the last one. simplest answer is its HF and vivax is just not able to read but vivax has been playing antitown all fucking game. anyway i’ll be dead before we have to make a decision on hf & vivax and i guarantee they will still be alive d5/d6 since there is no way scum will shoot the townie among the two before then

in the offchance that scum didnt bus calix at all d2 then the team is calix & vivax & hf and we probably lost

although calix & vivax & hf would push oats here since that would be a perfect win and the ballsy scum approach would have already worked so far.

but anyway

tube rayn exo who do you think is the best lynch tomorrow


Now that I've actually thought about night kills, I think ExO is most likely to die tonight. Or else there's some shit going down with this game tbh.

Nah. Calix/ Vivax means I tried to lynch mafia at EOD1 before botching the bus for ???reasons???. Calix and Oats is not a thing since Oats would have thrown away his vote by voting for me every single day without trying to vote for a 'mislynch' once iirc. Calix/ HF is the only one I can actually see someone observing the game going "that could work" since we agree on a lot of things.

But it's still not that logical and if I don't make sense with anyone else then it doesn't matter.

I am ride-or-die with town!Vivax at this point so FMPOV there are only four worlds that can make sense. And since I'm fairly sure HF is town because of lots of mind-melding stuff, that just leaves you/ rayn/ Oats.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 10:25 GMT
#2541
On April 16 2018 19:23 ExO_ wrote:
HF or Rayn, b/c one of them is scum


Who do you think could be scum with them?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 11:07 GMT
#2545
On April 16 2018 20:04 ExO_ wrote:
Rayn/CH if gf in game HF, if not, oats.


lynching outside of HF/Rayn is silly. If we lynched one today and it was wrong, we’d come into today with a guaranteed scum lynch. Instead we’re in lylo....or you guys will be.


Wait, I'm not sure which names go with which mafia player possibility. Formatting unclear.

Also if you are not shot tonight then you will get your wish tomorrow. Because town all has to vote together and you will never vote for anyone outside of those two.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 11:09 GMT
#2547
On April 16 2018 20:08 Tubesock wrote:
I’m most likely voting Oats tomorrow.

I don’t know about the rest. I think CH and Calix are town. Vivax too. And HF.

Bleh.


You still think CH is town for the mind-melding stuff, right? What did you make of his latest posts?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 11:26 GMT
#2553
On April 16 2018 20:16 Tubesock wrote:
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On April 16 2018 20:09 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 20:08 Tubesock wrote:
I’m most likely voting Oats tomorrow.

I don’t know about the rest. I think CH and Calix are town. Vivax too. And HF.

Bleh.


You still think CH is town for the mind-melding stuff, right? What did you make of his latest posts?


Not mind melding really. He set up a play that in theory would force a scum rayn with a gun to shoot because we were going to lynch him the next day. I don’t actually think even if scum rayn had the gun that he would use it unless it was game ending as he would be scum claiming if there were two kills. So not effective but I liked the idea so went with it.

Sure a scum could do that subtle play to pocket someone but that seems like a stretch to me. Better types of plays to be had.


For some reason I had to reread this post a few times before I understood what you were referring to. I just disregarded the idea since D3 policy lynch + scum-claiming if he shot + not really scum-read at that point meant it was unlikely rayn would die over the gun thing alone since the best play for mafia!rayn there would be to not shoot still and talk your way out of it. So dunno how credible that is really. I rarely think in terms of 'plays' so I took those posts at face value.

As for skimming the thread and wrapping yourself in tinfoil, I've been there
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 11:49 GMT
#2558
Tubesock's saying that mafia would always roleblock Eversince since Eversince MIGHT have changed her mind about who to give the gun to. He isn't saying that anyone else has a gun.

As for your scum-team theories, can't complain
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 11:52 GMT
#2562
Why can't Roleblocker and Godfather/ Framer both be in the setup? I'm confused.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 11:58 GMT
#2566
On April 16 2018 20:54 ExO_ wrote:
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On April 16 2018 20:52 Calix wrote:
Why can't Roleblocker and Godfather/ Framer both be in the setup? I'm confused.


What’s the setup here? Parity Cop and Gunsmith vs Roleblocker+Framer? That’s too much in my opinion, and I don’t believe thats the setup.


I think it's PC, GS, Veteran vs Roleblocker, Role Cop, Framer/ Godfather myself.

But I think this discussion is not productive. We are not the ones hosting. Fecalfeast is. He probably has balance ideas that differ from ours.

Making assumptions about the role distribution is not a smart idea because we do not know what the hosts consider 'balanced'.

Last game, town made this mistake when they assumed that Mafia Veteran was probably not a thing. It was
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 12:10 GMT
#2569
He claimed on Day 3 after you claimed. Because he thought I must be mafia planning on fake-claiming a role.

Surely you saw this yourself lol.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 12:15 GMT
#2572
On April 16 2018 21:10 currentlyhomeless wrote:
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On April 16 2018 20:48 ExO_ wrote:
We’re fucking idiots for not realizing this until now. Framer means Rayn lied about not having gun. Anybody saying my check had to be wrong, should have also been suggesting Rayn is a liar.

How the fuck did we not realize this sooner


if rayn lied about having a gun then 1. he’s scum 2. we already lost

since we are still here talking that means either scum hasnt sent their actions in or...gasp. rayn didn’t lie and he doesnmr have a gun

also. if you read the fucking game you’d already know he can’t possibly have a gun, or be scum for that matter because of what happened d2. he literally asked ES to confirm if she had a gun. why the fuck would he do that if he is scum and knows already whether she has a gun or not


To pretend that he doesn't know? This really isn't AI and it's insulting rayn's scum play to suggest that this is somehow out of his mafia range, lmao.

Do you also town-read people for not knowing who the mafia shot? After all, why would they pretend not to know who died when they already know?

I agree that game would already be over if rayn had a gun though.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 12:16 GMT
#2574
On April 16 2018 21:14 Tubesock wrote:
Ok so full confession.

I’m tin foiling Oats, Rayn, Exo.

Going back three months is Skynx’ Vendee game. Town impressively lynched three mafia in three days.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia#1

RB, Framer vs parity cop and medic.

So basically, if this town somehow makes it to final three and Exo is alive he must die.



What does a Skynx-hosted game where mafia got steam-rolled have to do with ExO being mafia?

Also that was three months ago already? Time flies, lol.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 12:23 GMT
#2577
Let us all overcome our differences on host balance and focus on how we all want raynpelikoneet dead instead! :D
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 12:30 GMT
#2585
Okay so we have lost the game. Great.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 12:30 GMT
#2586
So uh, CH. Do you want to amend your post before I respond to it?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 12:43 GMT
#2597
On April 16 2018 21:39 currentlyhomeless wrote:
i actually dont understand this game anymore

we havent lost yet but rayn has a gun

what kind of weirdass world is this


Uh it's not that hard to think of scenarios. One is Fecalfeast checking that mafia have a pulse. Two is rayn bluffing about the gun as either alignment. Three is rayn having a gun as town.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 12:48 GMT
#2602
On April 16 2018 21:47 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 21:43 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 21:39 currentlyhomeless wrote:
i actually dont understand this game anymore

we havent lost yet but rayn has a gun

what kind of weirdass world is this


Uh it's not that hard to think of scenarios. One is Fecalfeast checking that mafia have a pulse. Two is rayn bluffing about the gun as either alignment. Three is rayn having a gun as town.


are you trying to argue with me for the sake of arguing

rayn lied about having a gun. hes scum


I was responding to you pontificating about "rayn has a gun but we haven't lost yet? I cannot imagine why." Calm your tits, dude.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 12:52 GMT
#2606
On April 16 2018 21:49 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 21:48 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 21:47 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 16 2018 21:43 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 21:39 currentlyhomeless wrote:
i actually dont understand this game anymore

we havent lost yet but rayn has a gun

what kind of weirdass world is this


Uh it's not that hard to think of scenarios. One is Fecalfeast checking that mafia have a pulse. Two is rayn bluffing about the gun as either alignment. Three is rayn having a gun as town.


are you trying to argue with me for the sake of arguing

rayn lied about having a gun. hes scum


I was responding to you pontificating about "rayn has a gun but we haven't lost yet? I cannot imagine why." Calm your tits, dude.


i cant actually believe you might be town here and still write this horseshit


Better start believing it then, sweetheart.

I'll stop taking the piss now, fam. You seem a bit shell-shocked by it all

Or maybe not, because you are entertaining when you get all aggro.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 13:55 GMT
#2622
On April 16 2018 22:50 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 22:41 Holyflare wrote:
Yes, you presented the leading case that got Eversince lynched. Congratulations?


and you sheeped it

if we’re both town who’s worse?

like if rayn is scum here which looks like he is, you’re 95% town

everyone calls you good but youre actually trash


Obviously he should take some advice from you, super-pro player who is arguing with a town-read over some irrelevant nonsense.

Now that you think rayn is mafia, who are his partners? You've just had one of your main reads do a 180. Where is game solving? Where is reevaluation of reads? I don't get how arguing over this with HF does any of those things as opposed to cluttering the thread.
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