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Actually opened a filter. This level of productivity will not stand.
Anyway the reason I opened Oats' filter was because when I first read, I noticed that Oats seemed to be soft-defending HF quite a lot. I thought this was weird because I didn't recall him ever town-reading HF. So I went and checked.
On April 11 2018 06:07 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 06:02 Vivax wrote:On April 11 2018 05:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey rayn, lynch today is who?
Great question considering the way he posted it he could do anything just like yesterday cause that ExO vote really sucked purely cause it was never going to happen the way he went about it. 180ing my read on rayn right now. I will pick up where GB stopped. But I think the team is somewhere along rayn/Calix/HF or rayn/HF/kush in light of recent events. Mostly cause it leads to the NK making sense. Calix stopped posting abruptly and should be the first lynch. Her or HF. Either way calix is being thrown under the bus heavily here and doesn't need to keep playing. I dont think HF is mafia, unless you are mafia and he engineered an insanely risky switch.
Thinks HF isn't mafia.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 11 2018 09:16 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 09:13 currentlyhomeless wrote:also if you think hf is scum why you not voting him!!! On April 11 2018 08:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 11 2018 08:31 currentlyhomeless wrote:
this game is gonna be so hard cause hf is mafia fuck Is vivax mafia too? I hope not but his lack of vote is making my toes prickle if he is scum with HF this game might be impossible Why would scum HF bother switching the vote to you when town!vivax dies without his intervention? On April 11 2018 09:58 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 09:20 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 11 2018 09:16 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 11 2018 09:13 currentlyhomeless wrote:also if you think hf is scum why you not voting him!!! On April 11 2018 08:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 11 2018 08:31 currentlyhomeless wrote:
this game is gonna be so hard cause hf is mafia fuck Is vivax mafia too? I hope not but his lack of vote is making my toes prickle if he is scum with HF this game might be impossible Why would scum HF bother switching the vote to you when town!vivax dies without his intervention? because HF knows he would look terrible if vivax flips town and then HF doesn’t die n1? he’s not a scrub like you he has a reputation to hold but he also looks terrible if you flip town and he doesnt die n1?!?
Again, totally normal posts since he doesn't think HF is mafia.
On April 12 2018 04:41 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 04:26 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:22 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 12 2018 04:19 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax' switch is absolutely freaking terrible though. I believed in him..... ??? From es town to es scum Rayn and I just explained why it makes sense though. While I'm here, I have a question. Who the fuck are you even scum-reading right now? Because it sounds like you have way more than three scum-reads. As for town-reads? Nah. Es stuff is similar to the night phase stuff, I don't see how one is more convincing than the other, either you think it's all scummy from the start or it's just another mindless mistake. Ever town, tube town, skynx town, vivax is sliddding away but still town for now.
Doesn't have HF as town here. One could reasonably conclude that he null reads HF.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 13 2018 00:57 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2018 00:55 Vivax wrote:On April 13 2018 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 12 2018 23:51 Vivax wrote:
My scumreads are Calix/HF/ES right now. Off chance rayn and earlier I said off chance you but that doesn't matter until I'm through with all of those names. This whole team makes like noooo sense wtf vivax What's your team then? calix/ch/exo/ why would HF switch off of you if hes mafia?!? On April 13 2018 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2018 01:07 Vivax wrote:
I don't believe you actually believe I'm mafia here Oats. You of all people have known me the longest. Maybe I was wrong on you cause that read is really outlandish. WHY IS HF MAFIA WHEN HE DIDNT ACTUALLY WANNA LYNCH YOU?!?> On April 13 2018 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
like i dont understand how you can keep calling HF scum when he does stuff like that On April 13 2018 01:48 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2018 01:47 Vivax wrote:
You just take everything HF says at face value so if he ever flips town this game cause he decided to just play a shitty obnoxious town game I'm pushing you for TMI cause there is no way the entire game besides me and CH thinks he's town for no reason when he's the strongest scum player on the site. so hes the strongest scum player on the site, yet he is only townread by like 3 people? On April 13 2018 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2018 01:49 Vivax wrote:
But I highly doubt he's town as he would be wary of anyone townreading him on a weak basis. But he's just fine being townread without a single explanation precisely cause eh's mafia. you're kidding right? town hf gets off on people thinking he is town and sheeping him On April 13 2018 02:01 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2018 01:54 Vivax wrote:On April 13 2018 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 13 2018 01:49 Vivax wrote:
But I highly doubt he's town as he would be wary of anyone townreading him on a weak basis. But he's just fine being townread without a single explanation precisely cause eh's mafia. you're kidding right? town hf gets off on people thinking he is town and sheeping him And mafia HF does what, dear expert? just gets really mad people arent listening to him On April 13 2018 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2018 02:04 Vivax wrote:On April 13 2018 02:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 13 2018 01:54 Vivax wrote:On April 13 2018 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 13 2018 01:49 Vivax wrote:
But I highly doubt he's town as he would be wary of anyone townreading him on a weak basis. But he's just fine being townread without a single explanation precisely cause eh's mafia. you're kidding right? town hf gets off on people thinking he is town and sheeping him And mafia HF does what, dear expert? just gets really mad people arent listening to him ??? We were just talking about what HF does when he gets TRd for bad reasons as either alignment. You say he doesn't give a shit about the reason as long as he gets TRd when he's town and when he's mafia he gets mad people don't listen to him? Doesn't compute. I mean, he doesnt care why people are townreading him as any alignment obviously
Then makes all these posts (in response to Vivax's scum-read on HF) where he's defending HF but not really defending or town-reading him. When I read it I was like "why are you doing this exactly if you don't really think HF is townie?"
I get that a lot of the conversation was him responding to Vivax but even in that context, it's odd that Oats brings up some meta points about how HF plays but still doesn't have a strong opinion of him one way or the other.
Nor does he ever use the meta points to talk about how HF's play this game is similar or different compared to his usual town or scum play.
On another note, him not voting for ExO despite thinking he's lying is still really really bad.
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As for kills, it is obvious that I have no reason to kill Hopeless. This is not the same as me saying "Hopeless kill confirms me as town" because there are multiple mafia members.
But think about it. I'm already being scum-read to hell and back. If I was mafia, the last thing I'm gonna care about is Hopeless reading the thread and picking up on some scum slips that will get me lynched.
With this in mind, the Hopeless kill points to someone who hasn't been under much suspicion and who was worried that Hopeless might find something incriminating.
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Here are the EOD vote counts.
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Day 1 Vote count
Vivax (0): n00bKing, Holyflare, Calix, Glowingbear
Eversince (0): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_
Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster, Damdred
Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless
GlowingBear (0): Skynx
n00bking (4): Vivax, Eversince, ExO_, skynx, vivax
Skynx (2): Tubesock, Glowingbear, Vivax
ExO_ (1): raynpelikoneet raynpelikoneet
Raynpelikoneet (0): Calix
currentlyhomeless (2):Holyflare, n00bKing
Not Voting (1): Calix
Day 2 Vote count
Calix (4): Oatsmaster, Tubesock, Holyflare, skynx, ExO_
Eversince (6): currentlyhomeless, Calix, vivax, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, Eversince
Holyflare (0): currentlyhomeless Vivax
currentlyhomeless (0): raynpelikoneet
Skynx (0): Tubesock
Not Voting (1): Damdred
This is what it looks like if you think ExO and Tubesock are telling the truth.
Day 1 Vote count
Vivax (0): n00bKing, Holyflare, Calix, Glowingbear
Eversince (0): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_
Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster, Damdred
Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless
GlowingBear (0): Skynx
n00bking (4): Vivax, Eversince, ExO_, skynx, vivax
Skynx (2): Tubesock, Glowingbear, Vivax
ExO_ (1): raynpelikoneet raynpelikoneet
Raynpelikoneet (0): Calix
currentlyhomeless (2):Holyflare, n00bKing
Not Voting (1): Calix
I don't think CH and HF ever go for some weird double bus here.
So unless the scum team is Oats, rayn, one of CH/ HF then Skynx/ Vivax is never TvT.
Skynx and Vivax votes actually look WORSE in retrospect than they did on N1. To reiterate, Vivax was the leading wagon and if Skynx hadn't voted for n00b then Vivax would have likely died.
I checked Skynx's filter and his EOD was this:
- Said he'll sheep Oats or Eversince. Oats was scum-reading me (and Skynx wasn't) while Eversince, as rayn pointed out earlier, had no case on n00b
- Squabbled a bit with Vivax, led nowhere because of some misunderstanding
- Didn't actually explain why he thought Vivax wasn't mafia
- Then sheeped Eversince with this post:
On April 10 2018 04:16 Skynx wrote:
Currently I'm voting n00bking for 3 reasons
1) Sheep ES.
2) Him scumreading Oats.
3) All the talk about how claim doesn't make ES town and he can be lynched. Mafia making a blind claim when he was so far from danger is actually impossible.
- Asked why Vivax thought he looks 'more town'
- Claimed GB was 'trying to save n00b'. Smells of bullshit. Skynx didn't have any real reasons to think n00b was mafia.
On April 12 2018 04:02 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 03:52 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 03:39 Skynx wrote:
In meantime I'll vote for you ma'am begging your pardon. Who do you think COULD be third mafia by Process Of Eliminating the people you think are town. Thx. I'm still yet to have an opinion on Vivax and homeless, tube is also null to me right now, probably one of them (and/or ES). I'll actually just put out what i have atm: HF, Oats, rayn
tube, vivax, homeless
Damdred, Calix/Exo (tvs)
ignore: ES
Let's not forget that Skynx forgot to put his night kill in his reads list 
Conclusion: Mafia.
As for whether Vivax/ Skynx is TvS or SvS, no idea. I haven't opened Vivax's filter. Well I did but then saw it was 15 pages and went "fuck that". But there is obvious incentive for Skynx to save mafia!Vivax. And the Vivax posts that I actually read are pretty crappy. So I now see why people keep putting those two on a team.
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Some players will read this post and go "well duh where the fuck have you been? You didn't say anything original aside from spotting Skynx's omission of GB in his reads list" but this happens when I don't read or think about the game properly :D
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On April 14 2018 21:55 currentlyhomeless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 04:02 Skynx wrote:On April 12 2018 03:52 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 03:39 Skynx wrote:
In meantime I'll vote for you ma'am begging your pardon. Who do you think COULD be third mafia by Process Of Eliminating the people you think are town. Thx. I'm still yet to have an opinion on Vivax and homeless, tube is also null to me right now, probably one of them (and/or ES). I'll actually just put out what i have atm: HF, Oats, rayn
tube, vivax, homeless
Damdred, Calix/Exo (tvs)
ignore: ESI'll definitely won't lynch into my town pile until 1 mafia is left and/or ES is dead. I've never actually played with scum!hf. scum!oats and scum!rayn fooled me once i think, so there are player capable of pulling off what they did so far as scum but I won't consider that possibility until dire need. Skynx if you actually believed calix/exo is tvs then shouldnt you be sure calix is scum now ##vote skynx
Oh shit yeah, didn't even notice that.
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I'm just going to be a hypocrite and vote for Skynx despite also saying we shouldn't lynch outside of claims :D
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On April 14 2018 22:00 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 21:55 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 12 2018 04:02 Skynx wrote:On April 12 2018 03:52 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 03:39 Skynx wrote:
In meantime I'll vote for you ma'am begging your pardon. Who do you think COULD be third mafia by Process Of Eliminating the people you think are town. Thx. I'm still yet to have an opinion on Vivax and homeless, tube is also null to me right now, probably one of them (and/or ES). I'll actually just put out what i have atm: HF, Oats, rayn
tube, vivax, homeless
Damdred, Calix/Exo (tvs)
ignore: ESI'll definitely won't lynch into my town pile until 1 mafia is left and/or ES is dead. I've never actually played with scum!hf. scum!oats and scum!rayn fooled me once i think, so there are player capable of pulling off what they did so far as scum but I won't consider that possibility until dire need. Skynx if you actually believed calix/exo is tvs then shouldnt you be sure calix is scum now ##vote skynx I'm almost certain that this list changed to skynx scum reading vivax at some point. Am I wrong?
Yeah he wrote a bunch of words about Vivax where he goes 'u is well scum m8'
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Googled that for you.
On April 12 2018 23:27 Skynx wrote:Vivax can you explain what you've done since n00bking flip?. There is no scumhunting at all. It's like you're living on your own world to make up reasons that fit with whatever you're saying. Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 01:35 Vivax wrote:On April 11 2018 01:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 11 2018 01:27 Vivax wrote:
His townreads are very few, his null reads don't interest him and he just keeps attacking obvious townies at every opening he finds. That's mafia HF, game. Who are the obvious townies he is attacking other than ever? I can count Damdred, rayn and ES (if the claim is reason for you that she's obvious townie although I'd await what happens next first) . You are basically the only guy he's leaving alone. Hipster reads like this, you throw them away like candies. You townread Damdred for whatever reason while damdy was around in first hours of the game. This is the second mention of Damdred in the filter after calling for damdred to be more active nearly 3 days ago... then you just incliude a random Damdred townread out of nowhere??? Is there a coherent thought process behind your scum pile? Something like "lol does these actually makes sense with eachother" ? I wanna know how you go between these two and now that you're voting ES, who does that clear and why/ Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 10:39 Vivax wrote:
HF/Rayn/Calix my current guess with chance of skynx somewhere. on rayn sr: Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 06:02 Vivax wrote:On April 11 2018 05:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey rayn, lynch today is who?
Great question considering the way he posted it he could do anything just like yesterday cause that ExO vote really sucked purely cause it was never going to happen the way he went about it. 180ing my read on rayn right now. I will pick up where GB stopped. But I think the team is somewhere along rayn/Calix/HF or rayn/HF/kush in light of recent events. Mostly cause it leads to the NK making sense. Calix stopped posting abruptly and should be the first lynch. Her or HF. Either way calix is being thrown under the bus heavily here and doesn't need to keep playing. This is pretty much saying "I'm scumreading x, these must be scum team in light of recent events" no reasoning for the scumreads except the bolded. I mean isn't this where you point out whats wrong with nk's and how they relate to rayn being scum? Or perhaps explain the recent events? on clearing homeless: Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 10:38 Vivax wrote:
But CH is town 100 % at least that much is clear from this exchange. That's actually awesome. Rest pls look at the exchange, p65-67. I mean homeless just scumreads HF cuz hf tr's ES? I don't see how homeless suddenly gets a 100% read switch like rayn just like that. On me: Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 08:26 Vivax wrote:On April 10 2018 08:25 Eversince wrote:
I think your town, I don't think all your reads are right but we just lynched someone I thought would flip red. He was town so I can be wrong too r.r. I think that you being open about saying why you draw conclusion that you do probably makes you town. Even if I don't agree with the read. You're not trying to loll people into following an incorrect read with it. Thus 'if it's wrong' town/scum [t] vs making the same play as mafia. I hope I will be proven right that n00bking was mostly voting with mafia when the game is over, cause that's how it feels like to me right now. Need to do a skynx reread, but am pretty biased cause he didn't choose to hammer me. Dunno. Have you done a re-read? What makes you think there is a chance of me being scum along with trio above? You've been shouting stuff like this after the flip: Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 02:22 Vivax wrote:
Well basically the only guy who could be mafia with me would be skynx cause his vote allowed me to get the hammer off myself and I had been voting him before so you would have to be arguing that I was trying to lynch my teammate.
Ergo you can't still think I'm mafia. I mean if you believe what happens there so blindly, shouldn't that warrant like "skynx locked town" or something? But instead we get "chance of skynx mafia somewhere". Explain pls.
On April 12 2018 23:44 Skynx wrote:
Actually don't worry. Even without rayn and homeless stuff I believe you fabricated skynx scumlean and damdred townread out of thin air so i think that makes you mafia.
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On April 15 2018 01:10 Skynx wrote:
Yeh, my level of care has gone down to zero. Enjoy your lynch, worst town I've seen in a while.
Is self-voting the new TL meta now or something? I've seen it quite a bit in recent games.
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On April 15 2018 02:52 Vivax wrote:
Although looking at the wagons calix + hf + ch could make sense here.
lmao
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Why do you think CH is mafia again? Same for Oats when you included him in your POE earlier.
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On April 15 2018 03:01 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2018 02:54 Calix wrote:On April 15 2018 02:52 Vivax wrote:
Although looking at the wagons calix + hf + ch could make sense here. lmao It isn't such a funny thing to think. CH was flailing for a counterwagon and he gladly jumped on SKynx now. HIs read on you is pretty much undeveloped. All three of you don't care there is a cop check. HF seems to suspect rayn but doesn't do anything about it instead he prefers to follow CH onto skynx. I don't even know how this retarded argument is in the room -> Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 21:55 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 12 2018 04:02 Skynx wrote:On April 12 2018 03:52 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 03:39 Skynx wrote:
In meantime I'll vote for you ma'am begging your pardon. Who do you think COULD be third mafia by Process Of Eliminating the people you think are town. Thx. I'm still yet to have an opinion on Vivax and homeless, tube is also null to me right now, probably one of them (and/or ES). I'll actually just put out what i have atm: HF, Oats, rayn
tube, vivax, homeless
Damdred, Calix/Exo (tvs)
ignore: ESI'll definitely won't lynch into my town pile until 1 mafia is left and/or ES is dead. I've never actually played with scum!hf. scum!oats and scum!rayn fooled me once i think, so there are player capable of pulling off what they did so far as scum but I won't consider that possibility until dire need. Skynx if you actually believed calix/exo is tvs then shouldnt you be sure calix is scum now ##vote skynx Cause Skynx has been voting HF all day.
I do care about the cop checks. I just think Skynx forgetting to add the night kill to his reads list and changing his GB read from scum to town before he died is incredibly damning.
What does Skynx voting for HF have to do with the Calix/ ExO thing?
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On April 15 2018 03:06 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2018 03:03 Calix wrote:On April 15 2018 03:01 Vivax wrote:On April 15 2018 02:54 Calix wrote:On April 15 2018 02:52 Vivax wrote:
Although looking at the wagons calix + hf + ch could make sense here. lmao It isn't such a funny thing to think. CH was flailing for a counterwagon and he gladly jumped on SKynx now. HIs read on you is pretty much undeveloped. All three of you don't care there is a cop check. HF seems to suspect rayn but doesn't do anything about it instead he prefers to follow CH onto skynx. I don't even know how this retarded argument is in the room -> On April 14 2018 21:55 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 12 2018 04:02 Skynx wrote:On April 12 2018 03:52 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 03:39 Skynx wrote:
In meantime I'll vote for you ma'am begging your pardon. Who do you think COULD be third mafia by Process Of Eliminating the people you think are town. Thx. I'm still yet to have an opinion on Vivax and homeless, tube is also null to me right now, probably one of them (and/or ES). I'll actually just put out what i have atm: HF, Oats, rayn
tube, vivax, homeless
Damdred, Calix/Exo (tvs)
ignore: ESI'll definitely won't lynch into my town pile until 1 mafia is left and/or ES is dead. I've never actually played with scum!hf. scum!oats and scum!rayn fooled me once i think, so there are player capable of pulling off what they did so far as scum but I won't consider that possibility until dire need. Skynx if you actually believed calix/exo is tvs then shouldnt you be sure calix is scum now ##vote skynx Cause Skynx has been voting HF all day. I do care about the cop checks. I just think Skynx forgetting to add the night kill to his reads list and changing his GB read from scum to town before he died is incredibly damning. What does Skynx voting for HF have to do with the Calix/ ExO thing? Then you shouldn't be sure calix is scum now? is what he says when skynx has been voting HF so it's an outlandish thing to think his primary scumread is you. And the forgetting to add NK is something that happened to ES so you have an in game example of it not making people mafia and you're still using that?
It's a good point. He hadn't said that HF and I are on a mafia team.
A town player doing X scummy thing is not a valid reason to excuse another player when they also do X.
Not only did he forget about the night kill (before it happened) but he changed his read of GB from scum to town. How likely is it that you forget about a player you used to scum read and who you go on to town read? And that's the only player he forgot about and that player was the kill. Way too fishy to be a coincidence.
It's not the same thing as Eversince. This shows he knows things before he should.
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On April 15 2018 03:10 Vivax wrote:
And I scumread Oats and CH both for bending the facts they based their HF reads upon.
You got any particular examples for that?
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I cannot, actually. He goes 'my gut says both rayn and HF are town here', seems to town-read HF for some meld stuff around claims and because 'a lot of the stuff he says makes sense from town POV', says that HF actually does have town reads despite HF saying he doesn't, then waffles on HF for 'not making sense' because HF said he didn't town-read ExO before saying 'I am not sure whether mafia would be so bold as to say they have no town-reads but dunno because HF is being really weird right now'.
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On April 15 2018 04:36 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2018 04:17 Vivax wrote:On April 15 2018 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
Why is skynx not mafia? He said his biggest town read was me and that rayn is capable of fooling him as mafia and then voted me. He said his biggest scum reads were calix and vivax and exo and I started cases on you and calix and exo is the claim today. He blindly believed the claim from his biggest scum read and then when he had to choose between his biggest town read who made cases on his two biggest scum reads and rayn who he said could fool him he chose me.
I don't understand when you became so bad that you actually ignore talking points but it's quite frustrating. I get why you think ch is mafia and it was quite weird at the time but why do you just ignore people talking and write as if those things don't exist all the time? You used to always say even if I spam and write walls of text you had fun playing because of effort and you enjoy solving the puzzle but you're becoming the antithesis of what you said you loved and it's stupid. It's cause I always echo the winds that blow my way and ignoring talking points is what 90 % of this game was doing or Oats + CH wouldn't keep getting away with the nonsense they keep writing and I keep pointing out. Skynx is right I just have to let this game go cause it's really just complete shite. Like right above Oats is talking about framer/miller possibility because??? Because he talks about random pointless shit just to write about it that's why. He didn't follow the cop claim already so him pretending to care about miller and framer is ridiculous and the only reason he would care about it is cause he wants to lynch rayn which isn't a remote possibility anywhere in his filter. He literally uses "I THOUGHT ABOUT MILLER AND FRAMER SO I DONT DOUBT EXO THAT MUCH ANY MORE HERP DERP" which is just horseshit. Any accusations he just shrugs off with "I don't understand" , "I don't know". His first vote without any new content whatsoever was on the wagon that was Calix so he's also following the shit out of thread sentiment since forever. He calls CH scum but doesn't give a shit about him ever. whats the conclusion here and why isnt it "oats is mafia"?
What a ridiculous response. Vivax just called you a bunch of things that mafia does and uses language that heavily implies a mafia read, 'pretending to care' and 'Oats wouldn't keep getting away' being two examples.
You also haven't refuted any of his points.
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Yes, I'd rather see some analysis of CH, rayn, HF, etc, over having Vivax answer questions Skynx can only answer.
I'm starting to waffle with that group again. There has to be mafia or two in there. Which is why I want Vivax to talk about them mostly. And much as I'd like to go for the obvious answer and say the mafia is Vivax, I'm really not sure. He's way too abrasive and doesn't care if he pisses off the entire thread. Don't really get the vibe that he's defending a mafia buddy either. He's not trying hard enough to be persuasive.
Damn it, now I'm having the opposite problem to the one I had earlier. I have reasons to think all four players could be town -.-
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So much unnecessary anger this game.
Anyhow since hardly anyone is actually explaining themselves, preferring to whine in lieu of doing anything, guess I will just have to Do It Myself.
So I’ll go filter HF sometime this morning. I don’t really think he’s scum. Had quite a few moments where he said stuff I could relate to. But no sense in not covering your bases in case the super emotional antagonistic unhelpful people are all scrub townies.
I’ll look at Rayn too but since all the unhelpful people want HF’s head he goes first.
And given how game state is right now I am not going to get lazy and go “oh it is SvS” and leave it at that. It probably isn’t. If it was SvS then I’d expect more pushes towards a third wagon. Like me! But nobody is trying to do that.
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Also I do not get how CH is mafia this game. So if anyone wants to like, actually make a case on him, with clear and coherent points, that don't claim he's scum with HF because that will never make sense to me, then that'd be great. Because I read this guy's filter and he looks pretty townie to me tbh.
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It is also mildly irritating that I have to re-evaluate a slot that rage-quit instead of just policy-lynching the slot.
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