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Alakaslam
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On March 21 2018 05:25 KelsierSC wrote: Had a few people call out this idea and have to agree with them. We really don't need to consolidate onto dis right now if you have a good read vivax and hf called it out, yeh im not a big fan, not sure what this accomplishes. Then again conversion has come back and qualified the statement. So just have to see what he comes back with. I like rsoultin calling out slam a lot and pushing that vote. pretty good list post. nothing to write home about but still a solid list ---- Dis list post and follow up - I have specific questions which I will ask in a seperate post --- apparently I made df cry, I I will attempt to be nicer. I disagree with what you said on rayn and rsoul. I can't blame you for being confused about my dis vote because I was tilted and shit posting. You do seem to just be parroting sentiment on noobking, have you had original thought? Still have you as scummy but i'm not building a case right now. FF has rsoultin posting a lot? It's way down on what you would expect and vivax called out rsoultin for not posting enough. I'm not liking ff tbh ---- I'd probably have a lynch pool of dis,exo,noob,slam,ff, df and moosy does sicklucker not post d1 anymore? obviously i need to narrow the list down but i'm good with that pool right now. I can't remember why i asked ticktock a question so hold on List post more often scum than not though. Careful calling them good m8 Anyway reading up | ||
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SSON Y SSON STAHP | ||
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On March 21 2018 05:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: i tried to but i cant find it uhhh wtf Rayn, if town, is not questionable | ||
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On March 21 2018 07:21 Holyflare wrote: I also agree with read on slam. Far too many coherent sentences and words. The unvote post struck me as the most uncharacteristic. Just seems off. None of the sson, u see with the eyes of chupazi. The house of maroon thought you were svengali but now you're not. Ayyy but see I lost the eyes. See, was it present last game? Was it really? For I was to be a Nazarene, but I have tasted the Chelada. I appeal to the Meta Caesar! All who would lynch me! See my prior game. Note that I replaced in. What is actually different here? Like truly different? n00bking you must see it. You have the eyes of the detail; though you cannot see the forest, you must see that the trees are the same? | ||
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On March 21 2018 07:33 Conversion wrote: Meh. I keep rereading n00bking's filter and I don't see town or NAI. I see scum. His entrance on how many mafia => strategy changing was a horrible post. How is that NAI? Why would a town anyone care about how many mafia there are? You wrote more but this is what I am concerned with. Well, because when you play mafia on Smashboards (don’t deny- you’re from there NK) you start with a Random Voting Stage. Essentially? You throw day 1. Here, he has seen the light and sees that we utilize even day 1; but he knows not how to do this yet. Setup speculation comes to mind when you haven’t yet dealt with earlygame depth. Wall jumping into the water looks like diving to the beach native. | ||
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On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote: So... im in an odd predicament (1) I have an important dinner tonight so wont be able to critically read anything (2) Where I work has been thrown in an unplanned shutdown.. I really dont know if I can commit the time to apply critical thought. I still think Day1 comes down to resolutions on the big topics: Slam Moosy Ex0/KSC, Koshi/Disfo/n00bking, DF Rest is probably side distractions. My current (albeit loose) thoughts are: Above null pile (Ex0_, rsoultin, vivax, rayn, Kelsier, ykl, disinfo, Palmar Null pile (HF, Conversion, Slam, darthfoley, Rels, tictock, sicklucker, koshi, moosy) Below null pile (n00bking) Of the above null, I feel least strong about disinfo as its based on a heuristic that is gut feel only. Conversion is in null pile as I havent focused on anything he has said. Slam I would still need to meta-dive. DF I actually like, but I give pause since so many others have issue. I wouldnt lynch today, and would prefer not to use a bullet on. tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything. moosy i agree is not on the table Day1. Could be easy mislynch; so focus on other scum team. Apologies to leave it like this. Like shit I’m a big topic still. Consider lynching me like lynching little Blazinghand. I am really actually quite good; I’m just too nervous to ditch the façade just yet. Also, late game I wifom myself to the 5th level so I become easily influenced again. So I’m a mid game player. Give me the mid game, and I’ll benefit. I really shine when you throw me in at the middle. But lynching me early is just a waste. Say I were actually mafia even. Do you really think I am a good day one lynch mafia player? I am shit at pushing a real lynch I actually believe in (read last game! I couldn’t even do it with HF’s dogged help, and he is one of the best!) so what real use am I to a scumteam? Except to bus. So now, if you’re pushing me as scum? Consider this. As your scummate, (lol), I just took away your ability to bus me without heavily implicating yourself- EVERYONE KNOWS MY POINT IS RIGHT; I AM A GREAT BUSSING TARGET. SO NOW YOU INCRIMINATE YOURSELF. You ask, “lol slam cracked poor guy” in the QT, “how the hell does he think this will implicate us with his flip?” Here’s the kicker. Town, if you push me with genuine intent on me being scum, you are a lazy ass and deserve to lose. I am, if not THE least, one of the least influential players on this forum- I SAY BAR NONE, and challenge you to lift my spirits a bit and prove me wrong. So when I flip town? You deserve to be suspected. BAM MAFIA GOTTA BACK OFF. | ||
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On March 21 2018 13:46 Mocsta wrote: #729 - Slam Who are you planning to slam with a vote? I’ll look into it. Have to press R first. (Priority 1: prove you are town). | ||
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IKR? Is vig one shot or something? | ||
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On March 21 2018 13:55 Mocsta wrote: #732 Lol  Did you copy and paste NK from the QT? Like. I was expecting at least a utube clip at the end bruh. You didn’t read I gather? NOOBKING Prove to the thread that you know who the hell Blazinghand is. | ||
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On March 21 2018 08:20 n00bKing wrote: Engaging you about what? To "generate the reasons behind" your vote against me? If your vote is earnest, then generating the reasons behind it is your job, not mine. lol Assuming your vote wasn't earnest, then your tactic is one I've employed many times, and the town was better-served by me letting it play out, instead of immediately demonstrating how there was no reason to vote against me, and shutting down what you were trying to do. If you *were* using that tactic, then I was just as interested to see who might follow along as you were. If you weren't, then I guess you were only wasting time, but oh well. Yes yes more smashboards brain dead lemming hunting. Y’all seriously didn’t believe there could be an IQ of 13X behind all the trolling did you? I troll because like IRL games, mafia tends to not be deep enough to be truly readable. Like TRULY readable. So I’m the least of these! Be the worst of the best and enjoy! :D But the time is come to come out of my shell of being so afraid to make a mistake in front of others. I’ll rise. ... Yeah, Noobking. Nobody here will fall for that trick so we tend to chew it out immediately. But you don’t have to engage him because he didn’t garner a serious following because you haven’t been scummy as shit like last game. | ||
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So now the truck has a new brake booster and a newer master cylinder :3 Same thing with mafia. I can read shit and do it intelligently, I just can’t show you why coherently. So FRUSTRATION GROWS AND THE JUICES FLOW YOU ALL SEE NOT WITH THE EYES OF CHUPAZI, YOU MUST SEEK THE WAY OF THE UNKNOWN WELL CHICKEN MCFISH IT DOESNT MATTER BANG IM BACK oh nobody listens and I know why now lol So, let’s give it another shot, I don’t have to fall back on “oh I’m a troll is all” anymore as few people actually remember shit any better than I do. And everyone gets it wrong sometimes. You know, guy who pushed me out of a relationship, had 3 words for amazing advice: “Confidence is sexy” Time to be confident. | ||
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On March 21 2018 08:38 n00bKing wrote: Step 1) I notice that Alakaslam doesn't feel quite the same to me as in the previous game. It seems like his posts are an attempt to artificially recreate his play from the previous game, instead of an authentic repeat of his play from the previous game. Step 2) rsoul then makes almost the exact same observation. Step 3) I ask rsoul if she can elaborate on the difference between his play in the two games, so that I can tell if there's any sort of real substantiation that I can investigate, or if she's stuck in the same boat I am (with nothing better to explain the difference than "feelz.") Unfortunately it sounded like she's stuck in the same boat I am. Making me hesitant to join her effort to get votes on Alakaslam is the fact that in her first lengthy post of the thread, her read on Alakaslam was virtually the ONLY thing that lined up with my own thoughts. Whereas, in the previous game (where I know she was town) her thoughts aligned with what Town me would have been thinking on nearly every non-Holyflare-related subject, the entire game. Read me better m8. Stop being lazy. Rsoul is being validated after making those posts. I’m gonna change now for real, to highlight that and to help shed the shell post flip. Even though frankly? I’m safe. Time to scumhunt for real. | ||
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On March 21 2018 08:55 Mocsta wrote: n00bking indulge with that Ni insight. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=n00bKing What is your position on top 2 or 3 scum candidates. + Show Spoiler [NK] + #144 - Setup speculation #159 - Setup speculation #188 - Vivax -> Moosy clarification: Read unknown #276 - tictock -> ExO_ clarification: Read unknown #278 - Interesting Slam comment (indicative of NK/Slam team). DF comment. Vote Disfo. ykl suggestive pressure. No true position taken (as liking Koshi vote can be similar to liking ykl pressure) #280 - Critiquing grammer #337 - Confirms that conversion is being ignored. Intentionally dodging ykl (of relevance, as later NK states ykl is good target for pressure. This should then present a fantastic opportunity to counter-pressure) #339 - Does not take position on mcosta or tictock. Just states that mocsta logic is poor. #340 - curious about slam. Odd phrasing. Trying to draw out information (one of the first posts from NK trying to do this) - the question is for what purpose. #341 - Indicates agreement abotu Ex0 not reading the thread (or likely to be town) #343 - Arguing actions in theory, with no comment on players at hand. Trys to sway HF into a disagreement with tictock #344 - Comprehension question #361 - Is arguing logic, without indicating a lean towards any player in question #591 - Takes position that DF is leaning town #592 - Filler #595 - Debate logic. States Exo actions are indicative of town play; but at no points declare Ex0 town #603 - Requests conversion to build a case against him #604 - Wants to target lurkers and inexpereinced players to divulge motive. LOL. now that I have filter dived scrap that request ##Vote: n00bking
NK is playing filler this cycle, while chastising other players for being illogical. Classic scum maintaining activity by shitting on others to avoid posting real content. P.S.NK known for wordplay.. pay attention to end of day posts with moosy/prplhz last game. If NK flips scum, slam is almost certainly scum Linin’ then up! I’ll look into you soonish. Wanna catch up. | ||
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On March 21 2018 08:57 n00bKing wrote: Here's a strategic decision that would be informed on D2 by knowing how many mafia the game started with: WHO TO LYNCH. If you know how many members of the mafia there are, you know how many kills they can execute. Then you can see if any are "missing." If you don't know how many to expect, then a healer doesn't know whether to have added trust toward the target he healed. A roleblocker or jailkeeper doesn't know whether to have added suspicion toward their own target. Circumstantial evidence yielded by the night results will very often outweigh whatever inclinations players previously had, about who "seemed" town and who "seemed" scummy. Instead of the pure guessing game of Day 1, you have hard data to work with...IF you know how many mafia members there are. So it's CRITICAL information. Unfortunately, the OP doesn't even give us a RANGE of possible answers. There's literally nothing keeping this from being an 11/9 setup at this point. Or 19/1. And this is the beauty of smashboards. They play blue way better than we do folks. Listen, how did I know Noobking was scum? PASSIVE VOICE. But passive even for him. We usually are all very active voices, but his is more often passive. We are very much gone readers here. BUT HE IS HELLUVA LOT LESS PASSIVE. Consider that before lynching him. | ||
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On March 21 2018 08:58 Mocsta wrote: Perhaps its the ply of your toilet paper, but you havent tickled me yet in the way a town HF normally tickles me. I realise I don't know how a scum!HF tickles, but I have certainly seen the town tickle across the games this year. Until I see a bit more of that magic around the game, you are still in my null pile. Castdat shade mutha | ||
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On March 21 2018 09:00 Holyflare wrote: Funny you mention it now. I'm using it and am thoroughly disappointed. Lol. Quilted Northern m8. | ||
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On March 21 2018 09:01 Mocsta wrote: Know this. Im vig, and if you arent lynched Day1. You still wont be around Day2. Sson if you’re actually vig, do you not also expect to get shot yourself? Cmon. But hey if you are maybe it’s a worthwhile trade to you. Nice thing here is we don’t rely on blue roles. | ||
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