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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:49 GMT
#1768
On March 23 2018 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
What a bull shit read on me rsoul.


It's okay. We can just make bull shit reads on each other then \o/ I'm not going to pretend that I even want to bother to try to figure out your alignment right now only to wafflebot all over the place on it the rest of the game lol >< Suffice it to say I can't confidently townread you.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:52 GMT
#1775
On March 23 2018 05:48 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 05:45 disformation wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:38 Conversion wrote:
honestly I don't see the necessity of sharing my reads with other people in a list? this is such a terrible reason to scum read me. None of you even bothered asking me what my progression on the game was, and I wanted to play without giving a useless list post. That does not make me mafia.

common. that is not what I've meant. please don't start making list posts.

problem is:
when I open your filter to see what your read/opinion on person x is, there is a fairly high chance that I don't find anything. so I have the feeling that you have no opinion/don't care about person x's alignment.
which then makes me very confused when you are are like "hey mocsta, bro, u totally town". cause I am not sure why or where that comes from.
and you avoiding to post stuff unless directly asked about something is not very trust inspiring.


Right, and when I open your filter I see a bunch of waffling here and there. My heuristic says that scum do this more than town. Do I attribute this heuristic now to fit you as scum? No, I don't, because I use this thing called critically thinking to try and see what the context of the your filter makes you scum.

The fact that both you and rsoultin are seriously trying to tell me that that fact that I townread Mocsta out of nowhere is scummy is hilarious. I'll cede the point of not posting reads/lists/whatever you two want as scummy as your heuristic, and I won't argue with that. But calling me scummy for not trying to countervote Mocsta? Go ahead and get me lynched. I don't care. As I said to rsoul, I'll play my game and you play yours.


DF was another viable lynch option at EoD. Your reluctance to lynch mocsta out of nowhere does not win you any town points with me and I'm not sure why you're so determined to push this narrative.

- There were other lynch options
- Even if there weren't, you could be mafia together

Go ahead and play your game, but that doesn't make my point invalid in the slightest.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:56 GMT
#1778
On March 23 2018 05:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
HF...I'm not feeling amazing about HF. I think he could believe his pushes on NK and then on mocsta. So there's that. His occasional sideways barbs at me are getting my hackles up, and it felt like he was more interested in shitfighting with mocsta than where the votes were falling.


This is quite categorically false. I made a case on mocsta, I told you to vote him, I pointed out inconsistencies and repeatedly tried to get him lynched while you waved pretty French meat at people and did... Nothing?

I didn't argue with mocsta either so if you want to put out that read to diminish my reasons to vote mocsta then back it up. Prove I did that instead of casing and giving mafia motivations.


I don't need to prove anything? It was my impression of EoD. I was townreading mocsta and frankly didn't care about your insistance that you having a case on NK means he should townread you point -shrugs- It's just not a good point.

I think you're calling casing and giving mafia motivations is what I'm calling arguing, so whatever. Really not in the mood to open your filter right now.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:58 GMT
#1780
On March 23 2018 05:54 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:48 Conversion wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:45 disformation wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:38 Conversion wrote:
honestly I don't see the necessity of sharing my reads with other people in a list? this is such a terrible reason to scum read me. None of you even bothered asking me what my progression on the game was, and I wanted to play without giving a useless list post. That does not make me mafia.

common. that is not what I've meant. please don't start making list posts.

problem is:
when I open your filter to see what your read/opinion on person x is, there is a fairly high chance that I don't find anything. so I have the feeling that you have no opinion/don't care about person x's alignment.
which then makes me very confused when you are are like "hey mocsta, bro, u totally town". cause I am not sure why or where that comes from.
and you avoiding to post stuff unless directly asked about something is not very trust inspiring.


Right, and when I open your filter I see a bunch of waffling here and there. My heuristic says that scum do this more than town. Do I attribute this heuristic now to fit you as scum? No, I don't, because I use this thing called critically thinking to try and see what the context of the your filter makes you scum.

The fact that both you and rsoultin are seriously trying to tell me that that fact that I townread Mocsta out of nowhere is scummy is hilarious. I'll cede the point of not posting reads/lists/whatever you two want as scummy as your heuristic, and I won't argue with that. But calling me scummy for not trying to countervote Mocsta? Go ahead and get me lynched. I don't care. As I said to rsoul, I'll play my game and you play yours.


DF was another viable lynch option at EoD. Your reluctance to lynch mocsta out of nowhere does not win you any town points with me and I'm not sure why you're so determined to push this narrative.

- There were other lynch options
- Even if there weren't, you could be mafia together

Go ahead and play your game, but that doesn't make my point invalid in the slightest.


If you can't see why your point is stupid then we'll end it here. Enjoy!

If it is, you should explain to me how it is? I don't agree that you not wanting to lynch mocsta makes you town. I've explained why. How am I wrong?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 21:02 GMT
#1783
On March 23 2018 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
My read on you is that you're underwhelming and did nothing to give more reasons to lynch rels at deadline. Your read on yourself is that you were emotional and didn't do much at deadline to figure out rels. So either you agree with me on yourself or you're needlessly niggling at me


I know my alignment. I don't know yours. I thought Rels was scum, and I thought the reasons were solid at the time, but I can recognize that a lot of it was ego driven. It's damn hard to read someone who barely says anything but you're scum. And I can agree that the Rels lynch was bad and I wasn't using my best judgement without agreeing with you about being underwhelming. Those are not the same thing.

And frankly, it's not that you keep on making side barbs. It's that you keep on making side barbs at me and nothing else.

Hopefully you're right about getting nk'd tonight if you're town. Would make things easier.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 21:09 GMT
#1791
On March 23 2018 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tine you are wrong. I have no idea why you and Palmar say HF did things he actually didn't.


Okay, you're right, it was only 4-5 posts that he was really arguing with him. Imperfect memory ftw @.@ I can't say that it doesn't still feel a bit off because of all the vote-changes happening at that time, but eh. It's Will.

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 21:11 GMT
#1793
On March 23 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
Rsoultin, why did you town read mocsta eod?


Eh, mostly just we kept on thinking things out of the blue around the same times. That makes it more difficult for me to see someone as scum. I'm not as sure now, thus the fliter dive. Less sure after it.

I know he tries to pocket people and I'm definitely pocketable for him @.@ At least I'm too stubborn to easily be led around by the nose lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 21:12 GMT
#1797
On March 23 2018 06:12 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will say this once again, i'm a fucking idiot for not opening a spoiler and darthfoley should always have been the lynch at that time. Shoot him please.


What narrative are you going to push when i flip green?

do you think rayn is scum?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 21:18 GMT
#1803
Eh, that could easily be explained by a 90 page game. Or a chipmunk memory like mine. Is that the only reason you have? Because your 'what narrative' accusation definitely sounds like you're calling him scum.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 21:33 GMT
#1816
Ah yes, this argument. You guys are talking past each other in it.

Rayn says: you should not be scumreading when i made the same good read as mocsta and hf
DF says: i'm not scumreading you for that read. and you never made it!
Rayn says: you should have been able to tell by my agreement

Talking past each other. Obviously a paraphrase and probably out of order, and I can understand why that last is facepalmworthy cause it assumes you know what someone is thinking, but it's also a bit of an out-there thing for scum to say? In my opinion.

No, I didn't say it, but you should have known that's what I meant and so I had that read!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 21:42 GMT
#1829
lol ><

Nah I like koshi. Feels like last game. Plus he townreads me.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 21:45 GMT
#1837
On March 23 2018 06:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If none of darth/Conversion/ExO/ykl/Mocsta is scum then rayn/rsoul are scum and probably someone like Holyflare


o.0

I mean, yeah, the likelihood that there's no scum in the first five is infinitesimal, but I'd still like to hear where this is coming from?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 22:40 GMT
#1868
On March 23 2018 07:22 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 07:16 Holyflare wrote:
That's not what happened at all?
are you responding to tictock or me with ykl?

cos it absolutely is with ykl, and why rels called rsoultin out about picking on newbies.


Yeah, I still don't think I was being particularly mean. He responds in thread after I called out his ninja vote with a nothing sentence -shrugs- No, I didn't look at his filter beyond when he'd last posted. I was focused on other things.

I don't see why pointing out it took him that long to write a nothing sentence i.e. it was more likely a response to being called out for a ninja vote, is mean. Clearly Rels thought so. Being new doesn't preclude someone from being mafia.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 22:42 GMT
#1869
On March 23 2018 07:16 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 06:27 darthfoley wrote:
ykl's vote is still weird as hell. idk man.

Nah.. i was surprised yesterday too.
but when i dived the filter at the time, i realised ykl caleld you out in the post i said was TMI.

thats the difference with me n rsoultin.

my thought was to check that.. hers was to wait for a post int het hread, and then comment about a 4minute delay.

duno what it means, but worth nothing i believe.


Also, it seems like you're building toward a scumread on me, but for some reason have not bothered to come out and say it. Am I wrong? And if not, out with it.

While you're at it, explain how Palmar was in your above null list, and why you reacted so strongly to FF being on the NK lynch. If there's anything in your filter clarifying that, I missed it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 22:45 GMT
#1872
On March 23 2018 07:43 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 07:40 rsoultin wrote:
On March 23 2018 07:22 Mocsta wrote:
On March 23 2018 07:16 Holyflare wrote:
That's not what happened at all?
are you responding to tictock or me with ykl?

cos it absolutely is with ykl, and why rels called rsoultin out about picking on newbies.


Yeah, I still don't think I was being particularly mean. He responds in thread after I called out his ninja vote with a nothing sentence -shrugs- No, I didn't look at his filter beyond when he'd last posted. I was focused on other things.

I don't see why pointing out it took him that long to write a nothing sentence i.e. it was more likely a response to being called out for a ninja vote, is mean. Clearly Rels thought so. Being new doesn't preclude someone from being mafia.

err no. its about default mind-set.

mine was investigative. I search ykl filter for consistency to see if it was a scummy vote. Found consistency dropped it.
You decided to sit there and then take a dump.

Considering you thought ykl prior was town.. this dumping mindset does not compute.


Focused on other things. Sorry to disappoint lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 22:51 GMT
#1884
On March 23 2018 07:48 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 07:42 rsoultin wrote:
On March 23 2018 07:16 Mocsta wrote:
On March 23 2018 06:27 darthfoley wrote:
ykl's vote is still weird as hell. idk man.

Nah.. i was surprised yesterday too.
but when i dived the filter at the time, i realised ykl caleld you out in the post i said was TMI.

thats the difference with me n rsoultin.

my thought was to check that.. hers was to wait for a post int het hread, and then comment about a 4minute delay.

duno what it means, but worth nothing i believe.


Also, it seems like you're building toward a scumread on me, but for some reason have not bothered to come out and say it. Am I wrong? And if not, out with it.

While you're at it, explain how Palmar was in your above null list, and why you reacted so strongly to FF being on the NK lynch. If there's anything in your filter clarifying that, I missed it.
lol.. nothing should have been noting - i surmise you contextually read that anyhow.

as far as Im concerned, theres only 2 strong town reads in this game. You are not one of them. treat it as you will.

Right, and what exactly are those 2 questions going to divine about my alignment?
I filter is pretty consistent about the tier of people forming bandwagons.
If you are critically reading my filter, instead of glancing; the rationale for FF will be clear.

as for palmar, again, what is this driving. I explained the small issue i had with his early play. decided it wasnt indicative.


I control F'd your filter because I can't be fucked to read every word everyone has said this game. So if you'd kindly reiterate it so I don't have to waste time with you if you're town, that would be amazeballs.

What do you get out of being so obstinate? I already told you that I didn't find anything to explain those reads in your filter. Not gonna do it now ten minutes before deadline.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 22:57 GMT
#1889
blah >< fine. if i'm still alive in 5 minutes i'll read your whole damn filter post by post, so it had better be in there
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 22:58 GMT
#1891
On March 23 2018 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 06:51 darthfoley wrote:
Maybe I should've been more clear about it, sure. But I think people could read between the lines or ask me about it if they cared

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU OF ALL PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT READING BETWEEN LINES!

roflmao.

Okay i am done here i am soon gonna say something i don't wanna say. Good night.


<3

Wish you were still here.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 23:02 GMT
#1901
...you really see all of D1 as town wagons?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 23:02 GMT
#1902
On March 23 2018 08:01 Mocsta wrote:
hmmm
jail keeper / medic in play?

vivax is bizairre

HF gg


Why do you say this?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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