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On March 06 2018 20:50 AMG wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.
AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people. You think me making excuses to scum read people. What people? I have implied one person was scum and did not like their follow up. One person. So you find my opinion on or attempt at discussion with Tubesock to be forced, or I don't believe what i'm saying when i'm saying it?
This response from amg is what made me scumread prpl
Am still at work so I'm gonna be phone posting and then disappearing a lot of the time
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On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.
AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.
Not sure what this is referring to. I feel like AMG has been pretty open so far
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On March 07 2018 03:36 rsoultin wrote:
There's just something really off about DF's entry. He's in the thread while people are talking about things, and tubesock had already made his (bad?) post (though no one had called him out for it yet), and he just...isn't in the mood?
It makes me think he didn't like his role pm. Especially since he seemed to feel the need to respond to moosey and to make his excuses. Idk.
It's a pretty weak read, though. I mean there's always the possibility he has something to be down about irl...just find it odd when it's coupled with a need to post in thread. In his place, if I wasn't in the mood to play the game due to external factors, I probably just wouldn't bother until later. It's not like he was being pressured or anything to significantly change his willingness to play between his entry and that post.
I felt bad just peacing without saying anything because Moosy was like "yayyy another person exists!" but at the time I didn't feel like engaging with the thread at all. Personal reasons that I won't get into. I see where you're coming from though
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On March 07 2018 04:04 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 03:53 rsoultin wrote:On March 07 2018 03:50 Damdred wrote:
lol yeah thats not exactly waht I meant FF XD, why do you like him for scum.
Besides that I might disagree tina about DF slightly. Yeah? I know it's weak, but why do you disagree? He does sound defeated and what not, but the DF i've played with doesn't mind rolling scum. He generally fights hard as scum and is excellent at keeping his tone somewhere in the realm of his town game. I just think its a weird opening for him regardless of his alignment and i'd much rather not even think about lynching him for it just because its so outside meta for him it doesn't register for either side.
I think this is a very correct assessment of my game play and I will reward you with a light town read
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On March 07 2018 04:52 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 16:32 n00bKing wrote:On March 06 2018 16:11 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 16:05 n00bKing wrote:On March 06 2018 14:45 Tubesock wrote:
Do you think he's right? Should we not talk about mass claiming D2? Is there a difference of talking about mass claiming and the timing of it? Does anyone actually think the medics shouldn't EVER mass claim? So, obviously if you are going to discuss strategy you will be talking about the timing. I didn't like him saying "talking about D2 claim is a distraction" and then he goes back to talking about mass claiming. It's scummy to try to shut down discussion especially when nothing else is going on.
Talking about D2 mass claim is a distraction, when we're not in D2. Again, we'll have more information on whether a D2 mass claim would be beneficial once we're actually IN D2. If we tried to make a decision about it now, something could happen before then that changes the equation. Talking about whether to mass claim on D2 during D1 prevents scumhunting by letting the thread be clogged up with a decision that can't be acted on yet, based on variables that could be completely different by the time it CAN be acted on. It also needlessly lengthens the thread, making it tougher to re-read later. And then I went back to talking about mass claiming. YUP. Because the decision to make on Day ONE is whether or not we should have a mass claim on Day ONE. THIS is what we should be talking about. But first, I'd sure like verification from the Narrator on whether the setup is the one posted in the OP, or the one he said he'd be changing it to, because that also changes the equation. I'd say no, thus, bored. Let's talk reads! By all means, talk reads. But do you have anything to add to why your attitude toward the Day 1 mass claim is "no"? I think a "yes" or "no" becomes a lot more valuable when someone explains their reasoning behind it. Idk I think mass claiming too early turns this game into a mechanic-obsessed game (which it already kind of is) in which people forget to make organic reads on people. Makes more sense to see everyone playing the game for a while before mass claims happen. Do you have a particular reason you want D1 mass claims that I've missed?
Nope. I don't necessarily "want D1 mass claims." I just really wanted it to be discussed, because I've never played a format like this before (has anyone in here played this format before, besides the host?) Roleclaims were a big part of the pre-game discussion, so if anyone thought of a reason why a D1 mass claim would really put the mafia's back to the wall, I wanted to hear about it. We have some players who haven't posted yet, but to this point, no one has posted a good reason to perform a mass claim on D1. So I'm guessing it won't happen, and can just be looked at again on D2.
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On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2018 17:48 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/
I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.
Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.
I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.
I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny. Fair. Damdred lynching time then? Though I must say amg is one of the smexiest players in this game to me. It makes it harder for me to accept people not having an opinion in him. Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG?
Pardon?
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On March 07 2018 05:01 n00bKing wrote:
Thanks for those answers, rsoul.
HF's "good chat" post makes me uneasy. Should it not? You mentioned him as townpile after that post, so I'm assuming it didn't bother you. But since the time that he tried to shut down discussion of a D1 mass claim, he didn't really put forth anything else to discuss in its place. He's barely talked about anything but Tubesock. I'm guessing "good chat" means he's satisfied with the direction of the thread/voting at this stage, but that could be good for Town or bad for Town. lol
@Holyflare: No follow-up questions for your vote target? No reactions to anything else that's been said about your vote target in the meantime? No comments on anything else that's going on? (admittedly, not much else is going on...)
@Damdred: Have any strong impressions on HF? (just with regard to his allegiance, not with regard to whether he is/isn't "a medic" for one side or the other)
I took it as sarcastic because nothing happened and entirely within normal sarcastic HF play?
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Okay i've caught up.
AMG and n00b are pretty townie ATM. I think Damdred is kinda townie right now actually, for once. Maybe rsoultin too, because I agree with her about Tubesock. He might be mafia, but not for the reasons HF is pushing. The medic thing is really NAI even if it's "strange"
Lynch pool of prplhz, FF and Tubesock for the time being. I really didn't like how FF announced his first read, then felt the need to explain why he's scumreading prplhz in the next post. I think you either 1) do both in one post or 2) announce your scum read, then explain it if asked. Just felt a tad like he's trying to make sure everyone knows he has reasoning behind his scumread, if that makes sense.
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On March 07 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:On March 06 2018 17:48 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/
I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.
Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.
I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.
I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny. Fair. Damdred lynching time then? Though I must say amg is one of the smexiest players in this game to me. It makes it harder for me to accept people not having an opinion in him. Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG? Pardon?
You made a post about how n00bking is 10000% not in your lynch pool ATM. But you seem to be heavily town reading AMG too, so I'm just confused why he wasn't part of this unlynchable pool. It's a minor inconsistency that I'm just confused about
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On March 07 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:On March 06 2018 17:48 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/
I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.
Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.
I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.
I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny. Fair. Damdred lynching time then? Though I must say amg is one of the smexiest players in this game to me. It makes it harder for me to accept people not having an opinion in him. Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG? Pardon?
Oh, I guess awarding him a cookie when I first came in thread and calling him the smexiest wasn't as obvious as I should be. AMG was and remains my top townread, with the only caveat being I've never played with him before that I recall.
Just so you're aware, cookie = townread. Thus I am also now townreading Damdy.
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On March 07 2018 05:14 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:On March 07 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:On March 06 2018 17:48 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/
I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.
Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.
I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.
I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny. Fair. Damdred lynching time then? Though I must say amg is one of the smexiest players in this game to me. It makes it harder for me to accept people not having an opinion in him. I wasn't detailing my entire no lynch pool at the time. That's why it appears inconsistent. Why do you say this but then one post later claim that n00bking is the only unlynchable player at this point. Surely "smexiest" can be read to = town. So why don't you feel similarly about AMG? Pardon? You made a post about how n00bking is 10000% not in your lynch pool ATM. But you seem to be heavily town reading AMG too, so I'm just confused why he wasn't part of this unlynchable pool. It's a minor inconsistency that I'm just confused about
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It ate my post ;o;
I was saying that I wasn't detailing my entire no-lynch pool. It's just that noob had recently made a post that made me pretty sure he was town, rather than just leaning town, so I chose to comment on it.
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On March 07 2018 05:12 darthfoley wrote:
Okay i've caught up.
AMG and n00b are pretty townie ATM. I think Damdred is kinda townie right now actually, for once. Maybe rsoultin too, because I agree with her about Tubesock. He might be mafia, but not for the reasons HF is pushing. The medic thing is really NAI even if it's "strange"
Lynch pool of prplhz, FF and Tubesock for the time being. I really didn't like how FF announced his first read, then felt the need to explain why he's scumreading prplhz in the next post. I think you either 1) do both in one post or 2) announce your scum read, then explain it if asked. Just felt a tad like he's trying to make sure everyone knows he has reasoning behind his scumread, if that makes sense.
We did ask him, though?
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On March 07 2018 05:12 darthfoley wrote:
AMG and n00b are pretty townie ATM. I think Damdred is kinda townie right now actually, for once. Maybe rsoultin too, because I agree with her about Tubesock. He might be mafia, but not for the reasons HF is pushing. The medic thing is really NAI even if it's "strange"
Mostly agree. So yeah, my stated reasons for voting Tubesock and HF's stated reasons for voting Tubesock are quite a bit different. Part of why I asked HF if he has any reaction to the things that have been said about his vote target, since the time he placed the vote.
On March 07 2018 05:12 darthfoley wrote:
Lynch pool of prplhz, FF and Tubesock for the time being. I really didn't like how FF announced his first read, then felt the need to explain why he's scumreading prplhz in the next post. I think you either 1) do both in one post or 2) announce your scum read, then explain it if asked. Just felt a tad like he's trying to make sure everyone knows he has reasoning behind his scumread, if that makes sense.
I see nothing to like in FF's play so far, but to be fair, he HAD more or less been asked for the reasoning behind his scumread on prpl, before he made the 2nd post explaining it. It was 2 posts in a row for HIM, but there were several posts by other people between them.
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On March 07 2018 05:12 darthfoley wrote:
Okay i've caught up.
AMG and n00b are pretty townie ATM. I think Damdred is kinda townie right now actually, for once. Maybe rsoultin too, because I agree with her about Tubesock. He might be mafia, but not for the reasons HF is pushing. The medic thing is really NAI even if it's "strange"
Lynch pool of prplhz, FF and Tubesock for the time being. I really didn't like how FF announced his first read, then felt the need to explain why he's scumreading prplhz in the next post. I think you either 1) do both in one post or 2) announce your scum read, then explain it if asked. Just felt a tad like he's trying to make sure everyone knows he has reasoning behind his scumread, if that makes sense.
I was asked
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DF has also almost earned a cookie!
I like where you prodded on me, and our reads are lining up, too.
So either this game will be fairly easy or I'm townreading someone too easily. Which is always possible.
lynchpool: tube, ff, afkers ftw
Still not feeling a prp lynch though he'd prob be next in line afterwards. Followed by hf. Or maybe hf first. Either way I don't really have a problem with either and see reasons to think they could be town.
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Hm....Damdred are you sure rsoultin is town? So far my lowkey town group is you and noobking and while the three of us have been on the same page in terms of reads I find it disturbing rsoultin is seemingly on another planet. Especially since I normally find her thought process similar to mine in games.
First the weirdest push on you
+ Show Spoiler +On March 06 2018 15:57 rsoultin wrote:Hi moosy! Kinda bored with the setup talk. Ian (Damdred) is giving me scum vibes. Anyone you want to talk about?
Then she scumreads darthfoley for something that I also think is really weak.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 07 2018 03:36 rsoultin wrote:
There's just something really off about DF's entry. He's in the thread while people are talking about things, and tubesock had already made his (bad?) post (though no one had called him out for it yet), and he just...isn't in the mood?
It makes me think he didn't like his role pm. Especially since he seemed to feel the need to respond to moosey and to make his excuses. Idk.
It's a pretty weak read, though. I mean there's always the possibility he has something to be down about irl...just find it odd when it's coupled with a need to post in thread. In his place, if I wasn't in the mood to play the game due to external factors, I probably just wouldn't bother until later. It's not like he was being pressured or anything to significantly change his willingness to play between his entry and that post.
Her stance on Tubesock is NAI because it could easily be scum putting a foot in the wagon although it's the one time her thoughts lined up with mine so maybe town.
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Or wait it's poe on day 1 so anyone who's trying gets a free pass from you
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I would sheep a rsoultin wagon
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