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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 08 2018 20:42 GMT
#1341
but guys, what happened to the SK?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 08 2018 20:43 GMT
#1342
In fact if you have a scum read on mocsta during the day and he just afks on mderg at a point when mderg wasn't even getting lynched and he's in a completely different timezone that means he can't be around why wouldn't that spark your interest that maybe he could be bussing? You think there's two mafia wagons on day 1 and have just arbitrarily said all of those people are town despite multiple people on that wagon just hopping on for free credit?

Your town read on me is also separated from the rest and it's really odd. I'm town because I hopped onto mderg when I did? There was no alternative in your universe. I get home from work and mafia partner mderg is up for lynch or mafia partner rsoultin is up for lynch. Why don't I get that sweet credit and save a potential roleblocker from dying? Doesn't even become part of your read at this point. I'm just town and I don't get it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 08 2018 20:44 GMT
#1343
On February 09 2018 05:42 ritoky wrote:
but guys, what happened to the SK?


I've been here all along.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2018 20:45 GMT
#1344
On February 09 2018 05:42 ritoky wrote:
but guys, what happened to the SK?

totally decided to hold his shot till lylo for the surprise victory.
also wasnt very sure about his reads so did hold to not accidently shoot scum and make this game ultra town sided.
or double stacked with scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 08 2018 20:48 GMT
#1345
On February 07 2018 21:36 Skynx wrote:
Day One Vote Count


rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
Koshi (2): Holyflare, Trfel
mderg (2):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta
prplhz (1):: Koshi
Conversion (0): rsoultin
Holyflare (0): mderg
ritoky (0): rsoultin
darthfoley (0): raynpelikoneet

Not Voting (4): Damdred, Rels, prplhz, rsoultin

rsoultin is currently the designated lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, Feb 07 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .


At the point Mocsta voted mderg Rsoultin was up for lynch and he was on the huge wagon at the time and jumped off. It's not like he secured the mderg lynch or anything at all so it's another reason to at least falter in your blanket town reads on him if you are so inclined to scum read him, which you have all game.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2018 20:56 GMT
#1346
aight, super fucking tired, so ill prolly bail.
hf makes a lot of sense logically. which is not very surprising its hf.
but i got pretty sad reading some of damdy's posts and town can do some pretty illogical stuff.
so head and heart not 100% in agreement atm.
will reread that stuff tomorrow. keep on posting.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 08 2018 20:59 GMT
#1347
Is there a question in there hf or are you going to keep trying to convinxe me im scum?

Actually you got it, ill sheep you baby.

##vote Damdred

and for the record the rsoultin wagon cant be pure if i have a scumread on someone on it.

And i am literally not going to go thrpugh all of these posts i dont have it in me unless you can take it slower and ask ome thing at a time.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:03 GMT
#1348
On February 09 2018 00:55 Damdred wrote:
Before I amswer disformation about my lunch choices for tommorow I should give some reads that i think you would ask about next. These are not in order

Town:
Holyflare
Mocsta
Koshi
Ritoky
Trfel

These five are what I consider the pure wagon, I dont believe that a mafia was on mderg especialy with how thw votes landed.

Town Reads:
Disformation
Conversion
Rayn

Idk maybe?
prp

scum
DF

Rsoultin


Im just gling to write a general overview of my view of the game.

First scum reads. I really believe that my first assessment of the vote is correct. The mderg wagon is pure and we had two scum up for lynch in mderg/rsoultin. Hence why they both moved near the same time for thw same reason when people were softing about jumping off.

It makes the most sense why mderg just doesnt stay on rsoultin and hopes she gets another vote while she starts being suicidal.

DF is a little poe, the votes on him could be distancing. His fight with HF seemed to be just cluttering up the thread with who scum read tina first. Just seemed weird then and weird now. He did mind meld with me somewhat anout the lynch which is whybI am hesitant about this at all.

I talked about disformation earlier how he came into the game instantly spitting reads. A bit wifom but as scum I dont think he would as motivated there. I liked his postings and he seems like his townie self.

Rayn is doing his normal thing to me, looking for inconsistoncies while pushing those as scum. Has good follow through. I also agree with his thoughts

Conversion has said a lot of smart things tbh. I like his posts mostly, his fucking off mad and coming back reads like his town game to me also. I just like how he approached the game.

Damdred can you tell me why Mocsta is town? I will ignore your "pure wagon" comment for now because that cannot be a reason for Mocsta being town (that he voted for mafia since you think both wagons were mafia).

Also why darthfoley is mafia? Do you think darthfoley's play with rsoultin was to get either mderg or rsoultin lynched and then df starts yelling how the other one is mafia too? If darthfoley is mafia, why can't i be mafia -- basically aside from our reads on each other me and darthfoley have had our top scum on the same place all D1. Which is also why i can't see ANYONE (especially people who voted for rsoultin) legitmately calling one of us near top scum and other one town. It just doesn't make any sense because our thoughts have aligned pretty much, especially after D1 end.
table for two on a tv tray
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 08 2018 21:03 GMT
#1349
oh i cant vote for myself thats sucky meh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 08 2018 21:04 GMT
#1350
On February 09 2018 05:59 Damdred wrote:
Is there a question in there hf or are you going to keep trying to convinxe me im scum?

Actually you got it, ill sheep you baby.

##vote Damdred

and for the record the rsoultin wagon cant be pure if i have a scumread on someone on it.

And i am literally not going to go thrpugh all of these posts i dont have it in me unless you can take it slower and ask ome thing at a time.



This is quite literally the entire crux of it. All those posts highlight you've been scum reading Mocsta all game so why does it change when he's on the mderg wagon? If I voted rsoultin there and she flipped mafia he'd STILL be a scum read for you!

This is pretty much what I'm getting at. You think it's a double mafia wagon but have arbitrarily given your biggest scum read a pass for lynching mafia but not a pass for your mafia read on rsoultin wagon, who you also think is mafia. It doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to me.

So why don't you keep scum reading Mocsta?
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 08 2018 21:04 GMT
#1351
Trfel town huh

whodathunk
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 08 2018 21:06 GMT
#1352
What happened to lynching Conversion? Right now Damdred has the most votes.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 08 2018 21:07 GMT
#1353
On February 09 2018 06:06 prplhz wrote:
What happened to lynching Conversion? Right now Damdred has the most votes.


Do you disagree with the damdred is mafia lynch or what?
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 08 2018 21:09 GMT
#1354
On February 09 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 06:06 prplhz wrote:
What happened to lynching Conversion? Right now Damdred has the most votes.


Do you disagree with the damdred is mafia lynch or what?

No, but I think it's weird that everybody seemed to forget about Conversion or something. I think both are good lynches.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 08 2018 21:10 GMT
#1355
On February 09 2018 06:09 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
On February 09 2018 06:06 prplhz wrote:
What happened to lynching Conversion? Right now Damdred has the most votes.


Do you disagree with the damdred is mafia lynch or what?

No, but I think it's weird that everybody seemed to forget about Conversion or something. I think both are good lynches.


By the way you said you didn't like the mderg or rsoultin wagon previously and just before that said you like the reasoning on DF being mafia so why didn't you jump on DF with them? Why isn't he featured in your reads now?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:14 GMT
#1356
I still have absolutely no idea how someone can townread disformation. There is nothing in his filter than a random pick on Conversation being scum (which is a really really opportunistic read) and then nothing that someone else hasn't said already. And asslicking Koshi.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:15 GMT
#1357
On February 09 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 06:06 prplhz wrote:
What happened to lynching Conversion? Right now Damdred has the most votes.


Do you disagree with the damdred is mafia lynch or what?

I kind of might disagree.
table for two on a tv tray
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 08 2018 21:17 GMT
#1358
On February 09 2018 06:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 06:09 prplhz wrote:
On February 09 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
On February 09 2018 06:06 prplhz wrote:
What happened to lynching Conversion? Right now Damdred has the most votes.


Do you disagree with the damdred is mafia lynch or what?

No, but I think it's weird that everybody seemed to forget about Conversion or something. I think both are good lynches.


By the way you said you didn't like the mderg or rsoultin wagon previously and just before that said you like the reasoning on DF being mafia so why didn't you jump on DF with them? Why isn't he featured in your reads now?

as an addendum or whatever you call that, some stuff on df:
On February 09 2018 00:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 12:06 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:21 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 05:28 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 05:22 Conversion wrote:
He's actually home. I'm next to him and read his role PM and it said Serial Killer


Lol, dude, you actually had me checking to see if there were a possible serial killer in this game @.@

Scum right here...i didnt care


One reason why I scum read rsoultin over Mocsta is that this comment here perfectly summarizes how I felt about reading conversions comment

This is the comment I loved.
Vut fuck me his filter is not good at all.

Goddamn df is on the table. Fuck. He is mafia isnt he?

On February 09 2018 00:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 00:51 disformation wrote:
mh. kinda skimmed through df filter. things of interest i found are that he has a very strong tr on conversion that is not rly explained and that one post start of night phase were he is like "nvm my eod looks bad".
i probably missed something though. koshi halp?

Yes. And it makes him mafia.

On February 09 2018 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still have absolutely no idea how someone can townread disformation. There is nothing in his filter than a random pick on Conversation being scum (which is a really really opportunistic read) and then nothing that someone else hasn't said already. And asslicking Koshi.

u just jealous. also thats me every game ever. as ppl should know by now. maybe ill finally get misslynched for my playstyle. but i ll just put the blame on rels.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 21:19 GMT
#1359
lololol i just realized something that is really stupid but hilarious.
table for two on a tv tray
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 08 2018 21:22 GMT
#1360
@Rayn, Ok here is how it is in my mind.

Mocsta had reasoning to swap off of Mderg and hop back onto Tina. He spent a lot of hia filter preasuring her, moving against her. If mderg and mocsta were zcum together it would be easy at that point in ths thread to move and strengthen the rsoultin lynch if she is towm and he is scum. It makes no sense for him to lynch mderg espe ialy given how he played last game.

If both are mafia, it doesnt clear him at all though. And ill readily admit that, eapecially if rsoultin is a better role in that regard. (i mean his vote)

Besides that I think mocsta reevaluating on me when it was much easier to go with thread sentiment during the night was townie and different from theblast scum game he played. In the same vein when night started he was super antagonksti. towards me and set i was scum, but softened and tried to find things.

I think his vote looks good to me, the way he approa hes the game is different. tonally he is also didderent as he seems much more confrontational in review.

As for df I dont know exactly what the plan was. tina nor mderg really never seemed to have a lot of thread pull necessarily and it seemed no ome really got up to a momentum to go against them in the vote department.

I thought i did explaim about df, he fought woth hf and i thought the fight disnt feel like t v t. hf came out looking better. df has been misconstruing different things to make people look bad, me and my vote for reasons that arent teue, hf in the fight.

One of the things ive tried to read df as, as s um is hes a bit more hostile as scum than town I think. So it sort of fits here to.

And I just think you are town. You are pushing on little things that you think are inconsistant like the rs sk thing. and this conversation we are having now instead of teying to bury me.

I mean I could just be reading the game like im an idiot i guess? But I kinda think im just right.
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