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Damdred says that the wagon is pure. Why is the wagon pure? The only reason for the wagon to be pure is because they lynched mafia. Then directly after this he breaks down his thought process of BOTH wagons being mafia. This directly negates his first statement. The wagon is no longer pure.
I am in his town reads. I've been pushing not much apart from rsoultin and yet I lynched mderg for no evidently discernable reason other than filter lengths and then I lauded a bunch of credit over everybody. If both wagons are mafia I fit the role of person trying to get cred quite a bit. It's not even a thought though.
Why is the other wagon impure if they are also on mafia?
Doesn't make any sense. Now this rage when it's uncalled for and all I did was make a point? Communication is a two way street and he could have explained his reasoning at any point but hasn't.
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You never even try to talk to me any anymore hf and we use to talk all the time in games. noe you just lynch me for shit reasons and then say i play like shit.
I dont care, i have said multiple times today im ignoring that wagon and co sidering them town. i had an argument with mocata about it.
and uncalled for? i keep getting called trash all game and all last game, idk what the fuck ive done to deserve such treatment but ill just get lynched and keep getting called trash so what the fuck ever.
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but like always all my posts will be ignored where i explained how im approaching the game only to land on one thig that doesnt make logical sense to a couple of people so now im going to die.
its hilarious but fuck me what do i know.
bye.
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Damdred, I'm not saying that your thoughts are bad. I'm saying that I don't understand them. It's quite possible that this is my fault and not yours. I'd really like to better understand where you are coming from and how you're thinking about the game if you are willing to discuss and help me to understand.
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ok Trfel what do you want to know?
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Trying to understand your vote on rsoultin at the end. Yes I know the vote looks horrid. No I don't think that makes you mafia. I'm not asking about that part.
Correct me if I am missing something but going into EoD you were kinda townreading rsoultin and suspicious of mderg. Then both rsoultin and mderg did similar plays (not voting each other to save themselves). This caused you to not want to lynch mderg but vote for rsoultin instead, correct? I saw that you said that this is because rsoultin wasn't in actual danger while mderg actually was. The question is really why do you say that? Mderg was only leading rsoultin by one vote with people still to vote and no one would have blamed mderg for switching back. I don't see why rsoultin wasn't in danger there.
Second question, I may have missed this, but what is it that makes you think the mderg voters are all pure?
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Day 2
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Oh yeah I'm like chilling in the corner while my auto takes care of everything. Got some good north easterly 13-14 knots. Not too rough seas today. Let's make a check up you know something might be going wrong. Sheets, dérives, port rudder up, batteies alright, runners.. everything looks good...
BAM!
Oh yeah forgot there's like another 1123526 things that can go wrong which can end this race in a blink of an eye. Well, thats a shame. But whatever, you only spent couple of million euros and next one is in 4 years you know, just around the corner!
Trfel, a VT as Louis Burton (FRA) was shot!
This is Day 2. You have to decide on a lynch.
Voting is done here.
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On February 09 2018 04:10 Damdred wrote:
You never even try to talk to me any anymore hf and we use to talk all the time in games. noe you just lynch me for shit reasons and then say i play like shit.
I dont care, i have said multiple times today im ignoring that wagon and co sidering them town. i had an argument with mocata about it.
and uncalled for? i keep getting called trash all game and all last game, idk what the fuck ive done to deserve such treatment but ill just get lynched and keep getting called trash so what the fuck ever.
I've left a big glaring open inconsistency in your thought process in the thread. You're perfectly capable of initiating a dialogue and explaining why that inconsistency isn't an inconsistency and why you think the wagon is pure whilst thinking it's a double mafia lynch.
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On February 09 2018 04:50 Trfel wrote:
Trying to understand your vote on rsoultin at the end. Yes I know the vote looks horrid. No I don't think that makes you mafia. I'm not asking about that part.
Correct me if I am missing something but going into EoD you were kinda townreading rsoultin and suspicious of mderg. Then both rsoultin and mderg did similar plays (not voting each other to save themselves). This caused you to not want to lynch mderg but vote for rsoultin instead, correct? I saw that you said that this is because rsoultin wasn't in actual danger while mderg actually was. The question is really why do you say that? Mderg was only leading rsoultin by one vote with people still to vote and no one would have blamed mderg for switching back. I don't see why rsoultin wasn't in danger there.
Second question, I may have missed this, but what is it that makes you think the mderg voters are all pure?
These are both good questions ill answer. Thats correct mderg did his suicidal play first and then rsoultin did hers.
I attempted to find a third wagon that people could move towards or I myself would want to move towards. But the thread was not in position for shenanigans thankfully.
And I think you have the wrong idea about the vote count. When I voted with seconds left the vote was 5-3 in favor of mderg over rsoultin, it was 5-4 after my vote so it would of taken me+two others to lynch rsoultin as mderg would always have the tie breaker.
As for why I think the wagon is pure right now. Its just how I am seeing the game.
Mderg basically killed himself with nothing to gain. He could of stayed on rsoultin which would of put it more in flux who gets lynched.
I have steong town reads on Ritoky, you trufel, mocsta and koshi (out of the five). All of these people were on mderg pretty early and in some cases pushed him rather hard and left when their was still a chance to save him bit didnt.
HF I think is town as well, I do think partially the only reason he didnt end up on tina was because of his saving volume posters and df. However I think the df/hf argument fight did not look like t v t. And hf came out looking much better. So i tr him for it.
if i missed anythinf point it out
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i forgot day was so early for me....blah
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I honesrly dont understand what you are saying right now hf.
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I don't think you'd use the word "pure" for anything other than saying that being on a mafia lynch makes them not touchable. I don't think you'd use the words pure wagon meaning you just town read everyone on the wagon instead. In your read post it doesn't look like you town read those people for reasons other than they lynched mderg.
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I am home in 30mibs. I will listen damdrrd.
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hm. i guess trfel wont answer my questions on his conv tr anytime soon...
just to note: thought rs and conv are town.
not too fond of prpl and df.
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Just a reminder that this is a normal game and flavour is purely flavour. There are no clues in this game.
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I am sad Truffle is dead. Was a great pleasure in playing with him D1.
I am even sadder that I was not shot or killed this night, thus I must play on.
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On February 09 2018 05:18 disformation wrote:
hm. i guess trfel wont answer my questions on his conv tr anytime soon...
just to note: thought rs and conv are town.
not too fond of prpl and df.
Maybe this? I have found it from his filter.
On February 08 2018 17:17 Trfel wrote:Found my own answer, probably shouldn't be playing mafia this late I guess I'm pretty confident that Conversion is town. Emotional outburst aside even. I don't think it's suspicious of him at all at end of day. If he's mafia, why would he set himself up for a switch into mderg, and then stay the course on rsoultin even when it's not looking good? And again, mderg wasn't trying to survive, he was giving up. It doesn't make sense for mderg and Conversion to be a team here; Conversion wouldn't try to save an mderg who wasn't trying to save himself. There's more to it than that, his reads themselves I feel show actual desire to solve the game and good thinking. He seems invested in his reads and the lynches and is willing to interact with others to help solve the game together. Some of the stuff he says is ridiculously suspicious (like saying he needs to read his own filter more carefully) but I don't think that's significant because mafia wouldn't be inclined to say that either. I don't have much reason to lynch him and I have plenty of reasons to townread him.
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yeah yeah did a quick scroll through his filter and noted his most recent/prominent reads i guess.
he also was widely town read. and less likely to be protected than the likes of koshi/hf/rito i guess.
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On February 09 2018 05:05 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 04:50 Trfel wrote:
Trying to understand your vote on rsoultin at the end. Yes I know the vote looks horrid. No I don't think that makes you mafia. I'm not asking about that part.
Correct me if I am missing something but going into EoD you were kinda townreading rsoultin and suspicious of mderg. Then both rsoultin and mderg did similar plays (not voting each other to save themselves). This caused you to not want to lynch mderg but vote for rsoultin instead, correct? I saw that you said that this is because rsoultin wasn't in actual danger while mderg actually was. The question is really why do you say that? Mderg was only leading rsoultin by one vote with people still to vote and no one would have blamed mderg for switching back. I don't see why rsoultin wasn't in danger there.
Second question, I may have missed this, but what is it that makes you think the mderg voters are all pure? These are both good questions ill answer. Thats correct mderg did his suicidal play first and then rsoultin did hers. I attempted to find a third wagon that people could move towards or I myself would want to move towards. But the thread was not in position for shenanigans thankfully. And I think you have the wrong idea about the vote count. When I voted with seconds left the vote was 5-3 in favor of mderg over rsoultin, it was 5-4 after my vote so it would of taken me+two others to lynch rsoultin as mderg would always have the tie breaker. As for why I think the wagon is pure right now. Its just how I am seeing the game. Mderg basically killed himself with nothing to gain. He could of stayed on rsoultin which would of put it more in flux who gets lynched. I have steong town reads on Ritoky, you trufel, mocsta and koshi (out of the five). All of these people were on mderg pretty early and in some cases pushed him rather hard and left when their was still a chance to save him bit didnt.
HF I think is town as well, I do think partially the only reason he didnt end up on tina was because of his saving volume posters and df. However I think the df/hf argument fight did not look like t v t. And hf came out looking much better. So i tr him for it. if i missed anythinf point it out
This is also another part I have a problem with, specifically the Mocsta part. Here is a collection of all your Mocsta posts this game:
On February 08 2018 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Mderg I sort of feel your read on basedgodkoshi is a bit... underwhelming. I think Koshi has on the surface decent points (i disagree with him because your list in review looks the same as last game somewhat.) so I dont necessarily scum level of koshi laziness or going along with the thread sentiment.
Tina why you talk to me that way when i havent even been hostile as of yet?
Mocata why is me being absent so acum indicative exactly? Seems strange.
Honestly to the thread Mocsta is botgering me a bit honestly the last bit ive read. He pushed Tina pretty hard but ended up elsewhere while soft pushing me so far. Just tickles me in a bad way.
Scum read basically.
On February 08 2018 03:21 Damdred wrote:
idk its a bit strange to me that when i got back you didnt jump on me to try to talk to me... and its annoying when i have postes very few have talked to me.
You didnt evwm talk to me about mocsta or tell me i was wrong and read the thread more idk.
Sad that person didn't talk to him about Mocsta, because he had bad thoughts about Mocsta, because it was a scum read.
On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg
The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.
Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm
Wants to lynch mocsta/prp/mderg MAYBE (this is a whole other argument about you being mafia that I'll get to). Either way, Mocsta definitive scum read at this point.
On February 08 2018 07:00 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 06:48 Mocsta wrote:On February 08 2018 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Mderg I sort of feel your read on basedgodkoshi is a bit... underwhelming. I think Koshi has on the surface decent points (i disagree with him because your list in review looks the same as last game somewhat.) so I dont necessarily scum level of koshi laziness or going along with the thread sentiment.
Tina why you talk to me that way when i havent even been hostile as of yet?
Mocata why is me being absent so acum indicative exactly? Seems strange.
Honestly to the thread Mocsta is botgering me a bit honestly the last bit ive read. He pushed Tina pretty hard but ended up elsewhere while soft pushing me so far. Just tickles me in a bad way. Tickles you furrher So i bussed mderg 8 hrs from lynch with no need.. lol Gtfo The list was a disgrace. Much like this post Firstly, I dont talk to people in a disrespectful way and I expect even if someone disagrees with something I said to speak to me the same way I would speak to them. Now at the time I made this post I was not sure what way I was flowing and tried to interact with people about my reads. So yes I thought you could potwnrially be scum for the way you are soft pushing me for being sick. And so I had no way of knowing wat mderg would flip. Which yes at least foe tommorow everyone on mderg is town.
Post-lynch and Mocsta calls out Damdred. Damdred reiterates that everyone on the wagon can be town. Meaning he is purely saying they're town for lynching mderg. No other reason whatsoever. Mocsta was damdred's scum read for a long time after all.
Town:
Holyflare
Mocsta
Koshi
Ritoky
Trfel
These five are what I consider the pure wagon, I dont believe that a mafia was on mderg especialy with how thw votes landed.
Here he restates that it's because they were on mderg while in the same post saying that it's a double mafia wagon with rsoultin!!!
Why do these people get free town reads and the people trying to lynch rsoultin don't???
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