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On February 08 2018 06:05 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 06:02 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:52 Conversion wrote:@HF Cheeky. On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though Firstly, welcome! I think you are the one person back in whatever game I played that pointed out my peacing out to play Path of Exile. I forget which game. I do not see the relevance in having reads spilled out into the thread and being town. I do have other reads, I just did not feel them important enough to share with the thread and attempt to look like I am padding my filter. My thought process is, in my opinion, very transparent aside from that.. Mderg and prpl reads were blatantly sheeped from Koshi. Should be in my filter somewhere. hm how aware are you of trying to look like not padding your filter?^^ maybe is should learn that skill. thinking of it. i thought your waffles on mderg, or rather you not voting mderg, looks okay cause you actually went and looked at his posts from the nsm. though there is ofc the possibility that mderg would have let you know about that, if you are/were partners. Past games I would have a near 10 page filter by the end of D1. I figured that wasn't good play from me, so I'm trying to refine it. Hence, I am very aware and trying to bleed town as much as possible from my posts, without spamming the thread as much to get it. My question to you would be: If I am scum (essentially making scum team mderg/Conversion/+1), who would be the last one?
The last one is rayn or Damdred. easy.
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On February 08 2018 07:09 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 06:57 darthfoley wrote:On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad. indeed mderg (5):: ritoky, Mocsta, trfel, Koshi, Holyflare rsoultin (4): Conversion, darthfoley, raynpelikoneet, Damdred Trfel (1): prplhz darthfoley (2): mderg, rsoultin Not Voting (1): Rels ritoky as explained. trfel did some waffling, so he could have made it onto either wagon imo. koshi's eod seems to make sense. holyflare as explained. prplhz didnt give a fuck. so prolly not him either. conv did some waffling, so he could have switched too. rest i need to look at again This is a weird way to do VCA.. where are the people who left wagons?
On February 08 2018 05:02 Skynx wrote:Day One Final Vote Count mderg (5):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin, trfel, Koshi, Holyflarersoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Damdred Koshi (1): Holyflare, Trfel Trfel (1): prplhz darthfoley (2): raynpelikoneet, mderg, rsoultin prplhz (1):: Koshi, rsoultin Conversion (0): rsoultinHolyflare (0): mdergritoky (0): rsoultinNot Voting (1): Rels Much more useful.
I thought Damdred hammered mderg before.
and I thought HF was green long before hammer.
This is my biased VCA based on reads I had before the lynch.
Rsoultin voting looks TERRIBLE. accuses me of throwing spaghetti to see what sticks, but this appears to be the epitomy.
Its actually possible that scum is {mderg, rsoultin, Rels} lol....
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The lynch pool for tomorrow is always rayn/damdred/conversion.
The vigi should shoot into rayn/damdred
The cop shoot investigate into rayn/damdred/rsoultin/conversion (btw if you are cop there is a miller, don't claim d2 or I murder you)
The doc should save me. But he wont. Cuz that is how life goes.
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Oh yeah. Rels.
I think disformation is going to proof himself town tomorrow. I am pretty sure of it already.
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On February 08 2018 07:30 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 07:22 darthfoley wrote:On February 08 2018 07:19 disformation wrote:
something def is weird.
there were too many ppl who at some point had both rsoultin and mderg in their scum list or "i could vote for either". or were waffling between the too.
not necessarily scummy. i would have prolly waffled like a mofo as well.
but i guess at least:
trfel, Mocsta, Conversion, Damdred
could prolly have voted for either.
(havent checked everyone yet,) tbf i also said i was fine with either, but more confident on rsoultin considering the pressure was starting to fall away from her (in the weird, apathetic, way you've described) that whole wagon was weird. eod too. which is why i thought it was tvt. like it picked up fairly fast like (i partly blame that nothing else was really going on) and then went to a point where it was kinda meh, but nobody wanted to do anything. then came mdergs bad list and ppl were starting to hop onto that. then there was a bit of waffling and/or ppl not caring between either. at some point ppl decided on which side they wanted to be. partly because no good/big third idea came. then BOTH dont vote to save themselves. like really didnt expect a scum flip out of that one. though i guess the logical conclusions are indeed: a) both wagons scum b) scum had 0 thread presence i guess it is not impossible that someone bussed really hard for really no reason? but imo the whole building up of that wagon doesnt really feel like that? I dont think so. The only people that could have bussed a scum!rsoultin is me + rayn.
I never backed down from rsoultin because I thougth she was town. i backed down because I acknowledged she was put in a position that didnt allow her to show town colours. i.e. damned if you, damned if you dont.
Rayn, I just dont understand why he would follow up again on rsoultin if both are scum. There was no legitimate need.
I think its highly unlikely both of us bussed.
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On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot. On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.
Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too. Did some1 play my game for the brownies? dont think so. meant to ask. i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer. since the "known good" players were widely townread. if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier? No. I just read up to the lynch. And the answer is conversion indeed. So many townreads. Even mderg townread him. Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates. huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate? conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all. Why is it for conversion different than others?
lets see if i can explain.
with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did.
with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well".
bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion.
does that make sense to you?
On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.
Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point:
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Rayn is probably a good shout but I wanna hear some new views or reads instead of just df and rsoul. Don't think in his world a mafia rsoul busses a mafia df off her mafia mderg partner.
Now he has to adapt.
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On February 08 2018 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Either rsoultin or df.
Neither of prplhz or mderg is scum.
I have no time to write more.
@rayn
Explain your prplhz read to me pls.
PS: that post gave me cancer.
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On February 08 2018 08:08 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot. On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.
Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too. Did some1 play my game for the brownies? dont think so. meant to ask. i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer. since the "known good" players were widely townread. if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier? No. I just read up to the lynch. And the answer is conversion indeed. So many townreads. Even mderg townread him. Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates. huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate? conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all. Why is it for conversion different than others? lets see if i can explain. with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did. with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well". bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion. does that make sense to you? Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.
Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point:
Yes I understand your point. But I don't understand why you say it makes Conversion look better. The special attention is weird. And then Conversion his posts around EoD... I will get some quotes.
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On February 08 2018 08:08 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn is probably a good shout but I wanna hear some new views or reads instead of just df and rsoul. Don't think in his world a mafia rsoul busses a mafia df off her mafia mderg partner.
Now he has to adapt.
Well. He did already say df is not mafia... But he is smart enough to see that as either alignment.
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I have only 5 pages of filter. So good. Normally I have 10 now and there is much garbage in it. Way better now.
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On February 08 2018 08:04 Koshi wrote:
The lynch pool for tomorrow is always rayn/damdred/conversion.
The vigi should shoot into rayn/damdred
The cop shoot investigate into rayn/damdred/rsoultin/conversion (btw if you are cop there is a miller, don't claim d2 or I murder you)
The doc should save me. But he wont. Cuz that is how life goes. thats interesting actually.
framer probably makes it unlikely that there is a godfather. but to compensate, a miller could make a lot of sense.
If so, well played Koshi. Last time I was self-aware miller, I claimed in first post. But you played it well. I have no doubt if you came up red that you are town.
im hesitant for vig to fire tonight on possibility of SK.
Could potentially lose 3 townies in 1 night.. I think risk is too high.
Its highly likely mafia still have an RB.. which is more valuable than framer because of SK and is probably rsoultin lololololol.. explains the immediate early day1 draw to SK insertion.
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On February 08 2018 08:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:08 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot. On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.
Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too. Did some1 play my game for the brownies? dont think so. meant to ask. i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer. since the "known good" players were widely townread. if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier? No. I just read up to the lynch. And the answer is conversion indeed. So many townreads. Even mderg townread him. Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates. huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate? conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all. Why is it for conversion different than others? lets see if i can explain. with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did. with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well". bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion. does that make sense to you? On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.
Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point: Yes I understand your point. But I don't understand why you say it makes Conversion look better. The special attention is weird. And then Conversion his posts around EoD... I will get some quotes.
wait did i say better?
more likely to be scum.
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On February 08 2018 08:08 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot. On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.
Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too. Did some1 play my game for the brownies? dont think so. meant to ask. i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer. since the "known good" players were widely townread. if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier? No. I just read up to the lynch. And the answer is conversion indeed. So many townreads. Even mderg townread him. Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates. huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate? conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all. Why is it for conversion different than others? lets see if i can explain. with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did. with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well". bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion. does that make sense to you? Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.
Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point: Im seeing a different layer.
(1) Conversion was rsoultin lynch choice prior
(2) His comments on conversion are about resonating with rsoultin.
ie. the commonality is not conversion, but instead, rsoultin!
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On February 08 2018 07:31 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 07:29 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 07:26 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
I don't have a better vote than prplhz, and I'm not convinced on that either.
But I don't want to lynch mderg and I want to discuss darth foley with ritoky so yolo \o/ rsoultin why was he not mafia? I understand this is a shit question because he was mafia but I dont understand where this comes from. I never would have thought that you would leave the wagon. Why didnt you trust me? Town rsoultin would I think. We talked and bonded. Town rsoultin saw her counterwagon who was being lynched voting someone else at EOD. Town rsoultin couldn't fathom how that would come from scum. I do my own thing when I have strong reads (even wrong ones as it turns out), and always have. k. Mderg played "poor" but if you are town he made you look so bad. wow... you are almost an autolynch. That being said. I have not seen a mafia look so incredible fucking horrible while a teammate was getting lynched. The "too scummy to be scum" heuristic is here in full force. VER: Too scummy to be scum is a terrible heuristic dont drink the cool-aid!
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hum? "but his points on rsoultin resonate very well with me".
still read it as "i really like his points on rsoultin" (implying he likes conversion and dislikes rsoultin)
so dont think (2) is true?
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On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not. Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum is this list post from Newbie.
Well. The differences were there imo. But I didn't dare to say before it because I couldn't word it properly. Anyway. Soft defense.
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not. On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum is this list post from Newbie. Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people. Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.
Mderg + rsoultin is TvT? I don't believe that he can have that read as town tbh. He claimed so many times that both are mafia.. And now it is TvT. Smells again like soft defense and bringing doubt to the thread enabling shennanies.
On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:I am back. Meeting ran over, typical. Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not. On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum is this list post from Newbie. Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people. Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then. Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can. Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do. I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing.
prplhz looks more and more town. Also, he can move his vote to prplhz. It wouldn't change anything cuz mderg was getting lynched. But he keeps it on rsoultin because rsoultin is probably town and mderg is not.
On February 08 2018 04:34 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:30 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:I am back. Meeting ran over, typical. On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not. On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum is this list post from Newbie. Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people. Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then. Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can. Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do. I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing. I don't oppose a prp lynch? I just think it's a coinflip. Hmm. My diffident nature is showing as deadline is creeping upon me.. On one hand I really dislike mderg's filter, but I am not seeing too much of a difference between here and Newbie. I have not played Newbie, though, so maybe I would have seen it differently had I been in it. On the other hand, I really disliked the majority of your Day1, and I am not sure if the recovery was enough to sway my decision... Ugh.
waffle waffle I talk to my scumread and want to make a new wagon with her.
and AGAIN a soft defense on mderg stating his meta is similar. Or that list post.
+ Show Spoiler +Scum QT:
mderg: guis I am going to do a list post that looks like last game. People like lists and shit
Conversion: Excellent idea bro. I got your back.
On February 08 2018 04:54 Conversion wrote:
I am being pulled into another meeting. I will remain confident per rsoultin's call out on my play and stick with my vote.
I have a good list of town reads that I will need to most likely re-evaluate during night. I hope we get more activity from the inactive players to help push town to victory.
0 conviction the lynch should be x or y.
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On February 08 2018 08:15 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:11 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 08:08 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot. On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.
Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too. Did some1 play my game for the brownies? dont think so. meant to ask. i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer. since the "known good" players were widely townread. if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier? No. I just read up to the lynch. And the answer is conversion indeed. So many townreads. Even mderg townread him. Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates. huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate? conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all. Why is it for conversion different than others? lets see if i can explain. with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did. with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well". bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion. does that make sense to you? On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.
Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point: Yes I understand your point. But I don't understand why you say it makes Conversion look better. The special attention is weird. And then Conversion his posts around EoD... I will get some quotes. wait did i say better? more likely to be scum.
ah ok. Then we are seeing the same thing.
I am tired so it is probably me.
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On February 08 2018 08:14 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:04 Koshi wrote:
The lynch pool for tomorrow is always rayn/damdred/conversion.
The vigi should shoot into rayn/damdred
The cop shoot investigate into rayn/damdred/rsoultin/conversion (btw if you are cop there is a miller, don't claim d2 or I murder you)
The doc should save me. But he wont. Cuz that is how life goes. thats interesting actually. framer probably makes it unlikely that there is a godfather. but to compensate, a miller could make a lot of sense. If so, well played Koshi. Last time I was self-aware miller, I claimed in first post. But you played it well. I have no doubt if you came up red that you are town. im hesitant for vig to fire tonight on possibility of SK.Could potentially lose 3 townies in 1 night.. I think risk is too high. Its highly likely mafia still have an RB.. which is more valuable than framer because of SK and is probably rsoultin lololololol.. explains the immediate early day1 draw to SK insertion.
game is too small for an sk. I think. Mostly it is 14 people then. Or more. But you never know ofc.
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On February 08 2018 07:48 Holyflare wrote:
Don't get me wrong cyborg conversion, you're playing a great game but I just miss the old conversion you know?
I am town, Koshi. Get off your tunnel. You ate shit last game, you will eat shit again.
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