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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 07 2018 05:59 GMT
#461
Yeah okay I'm going to vote Koshi. And I would appreciate hearing people's thoughts on Koshi.

Says that mderg, prplhz, and the two afk's may contain two mafia. Votes for mderg, explains his reason for scumreading prplhz, not mderg.

Townreads the biggest wagon (rsoultin), doesn't at all seem very invested in that townread or care enough about his "pretty good" scum pool to even say why he's suspicious of those people. Seems perfectly happy to let his townread get lynched over his scumreads.

But he cares enough to make a huge list of all of ritoky's games and look at his reads on ritoky in each one. To me this just doesn't add up.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 06:50 GMT
#462
trfel, i will get back to you tonight on those reads - i havent had the time at work today i was intending.

I want to ask you some more questions, but im concerned they are already answered in the thread (e.g. i didnt realise conversion made addition points about rsoultin as you ?alluded? before)

However, I am immediately curious about your position conversion.
Yesterday he was a scum lean.
Today, I assume you changed your mind because of his rsoultin rationale. And voted rsoultin.
NOW, you have unvoted rsoultin; how does that influence the read on conversion?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 07:17 GMT
#463
##vote rsoultin
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 07:18 GMT
#464
On February 06 2018 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta, while your case is essentially all correct i do not think that in general makes anyone mafia. At least all the points. However since you haven't played that much with Tina it makes sense you make a case like that. The point i find most damning about her is that the argument is towards me. I specifically asked for Damdred because he is one of the players who can actually understand the following point.

The feeling i get from rsoultin's posts is that he is trying to downplay me, for a reason i don't understand at all. Especially the comments "You were unable to leave it alone" and "lacking a sense of humor" make me feel like she thinks i am stupid or something, when in fact i asked a perfectly reasonable (and correctly predicted -- i mean in a sense that she DID have a point) question. But when the answer finally came i should have let it go earlier (why?) or learn some humor (why? it wasn't a joke). The real problem isn't her saying so, it is her saying so towards a player she herself claims calls her mafia for stupid reasons when she is town -- aka, if you felt like that you should never ever act this way towards the player because the end result is what you claim "always happens". What you should do, is that when that player interacts towards you you are precise in your answers to prevent that from happening. And that was not all she did, she even threw some gas into the flames by saying things that were not only incorrect but from my opinion only designed to irritate.

Damdred knows this, i believe he knows this from this exact point of view. Which is why i wanted his opinion.
Damdred responded. However, you answered the question for him.
Are you satisfied?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 07:21 GMT
#465
On February 06 2018 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also think Trfel is quite obviously town.
mderg is probably town too and giving it a bit more thought Conversion too.
Now that you are online. i shall take advantage

how come?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 07:24 GMT
#466
while mderg lacks a bit of enthusiasm he had last game i think the last game was best i have ever seen mderg play. Also i think he is focusing on the right things (aka rsoultin).
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 07:26 GMT
#467
On February 06 2018 18:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 11:22 darthfoley wrote:
Mocsta's ability to turn a few simple points into a wall of test is astounding.

Is this how he plays as Town? Cuz this reminds me exactly of last game


^ This

But not so much the wall of text thing. More the, Joni thinks she's scum, let me add my hipster reason to it.

Though I could just be extra paranoid after townreading him all last game on clouds and rainbows.

So actually not this. I think it's likely he just thinks that way and it's NAI, the walls of text in place of succinct.
rsoultin, im starting to buy into this a bit.

but im confused what is actually hipster how about how i joined "rayn".
dare i say, i posted "scum right here" as i was reading thread. hence, before i saw rayn and you post.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 07:26 GMT
#468
Damdred responded. However, you answered the question for him.

Damdred knows it doesn't matter if i answer the question beforehand or not. I would re-evaluate in case he hadn't agreed with me. I am not certain he is town but i have no reason to re-evaluate (based on his answer) my read on rsoultin. I don't think i need to write another case, my former one stands + this:
On February 07 2018 06:44 Holyflare wrote:
I'm voting rsoul because she has four pages of filter and I don't know a single one of her scum reads. Sure, she's mentioned them but there's absolutely nothing concrete there and she hasn't pushed a single thing or made anyone brutally aware that she scum reads them enough that I remember it. That's very uncharacteristic for her. Especially after such a strong showing last game that I could easily town read her day 1.

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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 07:27 GMT
#469
On February 07 2018 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
while mderg lacks a bit of enthusiasm he had last game i think the last game was best i have ever seen mderg play. Also i think he is focusing on the right things (aka rsoultin).
you should read detention mafia scum game, or whatever its called.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 07:28 GMT
#470
darthfoley makes me laugh.
also probably scum.

see how he said my case is bullshit and then does exactly what i said in my case on him. ^^
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 07:29 GMT
#471
Look, the thing that is burning int he back of mind is.. could rsoultin be showing a "weak" day1 BECAUSE of the pressure sent her way..

i mean.. i find it hard to read darthfoley cos i feel everything is unwarranted.
If a lot of strong players are targettign rsoultin i think its very plausible to not have a strong follow up (as either alignment).

im still only halfway through my re-read, but im trying to ask myself that everytime i see her post and i do feel less strong about her compared to yesterday.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 07:33 GMT
#472
I am somewhere around:

town

Conversion
Mocsta
Trfel - just because i cannot understand why he is voting for Koshi
Holyflare
mderg
Koshi

Damdred

Rels - cop or vig this guy


prplhz
ritoky

darthfoley

rsoultin

mafia
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 07:37 GMT
#473
Here is darthfoley:

- waffle about rsoultin
- rayn says he doesn't really seem to want to lynch rsoultin while scumreading him
- scumreads everyone who scumread rsoultin
- votes rsoultin "SEE WHAT I DID BRUH! NOW YOUR CASE IS BS!"
- "i will probably change my vote though if people who i scumread vote for her"

idk if this guy is just dumb or what? like i get he could think like this about rsoultin and other but scumreading me for scumreading him for something he literally does even after telling my case is bs is super fucking hilarious.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 07:41 GMT
#474
ritoky isn't exactly scummy per se but i don't feel like he is really trying to do anything, he is.... just "here". Like let's take an example; He confronted Trfel based on a post Trfel assumedly took out of context. Trfel explains why ritokys's interpretation is wrong. What does ritoky do? Nothing. Absolutely nothing about it. He jsut says stuff and when people answer he does nothing with the answers.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 07:42 GMT
#475
And the ritoky Koshi stuff was just super funny when i read it. ^^
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 07:44 GMT
#476
On February 07 2018 14:59 Trfel wrote:
Yeah okay I'm going to vote Koshi. And I would appreciate hearing people's thoughts on Koshi.

Says that mderg, prplhz, and the two afk's may contain two mafia. Votes for mderg, explains his reason for scumreading prplhz, not mderg.

Townreads the biggest wagon (rsoultin), doesn't at all seem very invested in that townread or care enough about his "pretty good" scum pool to even say why he's suspicious of those people. Seems perfectly happy to let his townread get lynched over his scumreads.

But he cares enough to make a huge list of all of ritoky's games and look at his reads on ritoky in each one. To me this just doesn't add up.

Unfortunately this is how you get to be the best townie 2017.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 08:24 GMT
#477
On February 07 2018 14:59 Trfel wrote:
Yeah okay I'm going to vote Koshi. And I would appreciate hearing people's thoughts on Koshi.

Says that mderg, prplhz, and the two afk's may contain two mafia. Votes for mderg, explains his reason for scumreading prplhz, not mderg.

Townreads the biggest wagon (rsoultin), doesn't at all seem very invested in that townread or care enough about his "pretty good" scum pool to even say why he's suspicious of those people. Seems perfectly happy to let his townread get lynched over his scumreads.

But he cares enough to make a huge list of all of ritoky's games and look at his reads on ritoky in each one. To me this just doesn't add up.

The idea behind these points against me are fair.

My pool contains all names I think are mafia. I didnt explain mderg because nobody asked. I explained prplhz because rsoultin asked.

I am not perfectly happy seeing rsoultin lynched. Be more careful how you say things. Because you can see that I green coloured rsoultin and wrote 2 posts on her alignment already. I do not care who majority wants to lynch because I townread them.

Anyway. I think I should actually move my vote to prplhz. The shoveling dirt was real.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 08:28 GMT
#478
On February 07 2018 16:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 14:59 Trfel wrote:
Yeah okay I'm going to vote Koshi. And I would appreciate hearing people's thoughts on Koshi.

Says that mderg, prplhz, and the two afk's may contain two mafia. Votes for mderg, explains his reason for scumreading prplhz, not mderg.

Townreads the biggest wagon (rsoultin), doesn't at all seem very invested in that townread or care enough about his "pretty good" scum pool to even say why he's suspicious of those people. Seems perfectly happy to let his townread get lynched over his scumreads.

But he cares enough to make a huge list of all of ritoky's games and look at his reads on ritoky in each one. To me this just doesn't add up.

Unfortunately this is how you get to be the best townie 2017.

Best mafia player 2017 overall. Also holder of the funniest moment trophy. Drama Queen. And was a member of the 2 best mafia performances last year. And had the strongest town performance.

Anyway. I shall vote prplhz. Could you please put mderg 2 spots lower on your list. Because I asked so nicely? Thank you sweetiepie.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 08:31 GMT
#479
On February 07 2018 17:30 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote prplhz


I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 07 2018 08:34 GMT
#480
Rsoultin posting would be nice
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