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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 12 2018 19:40 GMT
#2121
Like there is so much wrong with the middle post now that I reread it. My god that is a bad post
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 12 2018 19:45 GMT
#2122
I'm going to read through Damdred's filter now.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 12 2018 19:50 GMT
#2123
I appreciate your style df.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 12 2018 20:12 GMT
#2124
Damdred's vote on rsoultin D1 is so out of left field. I don't understand why it happens. Talks about how her posts have looked better since he came into the game. He claims it was to consolidate on rsoultin but he also says he did it with a couple seconds left, so what point is there in "consolidating?" Not much. Looks pretty useless.

But why wouldn't scum!Damdred play the part of HF and just hammer scum!mderg at 5 votes to 3 Mderg > scum!rsoultin? Is he afraid it might look like prime town cred claiming?

Why is rsoultin allergic to voting the counterwagon for survival? D1 she refused to vote mderg and did some half assed attempt at shenannies onto me. D2 she refuses to vote for Damdred and instead votes for me with Koshi.
+ Show Spoiler +

Before I amswer disformation about my lunch choices for tommorow I should give some reads that i think you would ask about next. These are not in order

Town:
Holyflare
Mocsta
Koshi
Ritoky
Trfel

These five are what I consider the pure wagon, I dont believe that a mafia was on mderg especialy with how thw votes landed.

Town Reads:
Disformation
Conversion
Rayn

Idk maybe?
prp

scum
DF

Rsoultin


Im just gling to write a general overview of my view of the game.

First scum reads. I really believe that my first assessment of the vote is correct. The mderg wagon is pure and we had two scum up for lynch in mderg/rsoultin. Hence why they both moved near the same time for thw same reason when people were softing about jumping off.

It makes the most sense why mderg just doesnt stay on rsoultin and hopes she gets another vote while she starts being suicidal.


I know HF and others have talked about this so I don't want to beat a dead horse. It's just my first time in 4 days that i'm not on mobile so I can finally read some things. Damdred's analysis on "pure wagons" is just bad and illogical in every way. If mderg vs. rsoultin is SvS, it's actually more likely that rsoultin's wagon is pure, not mderg's. But in all likelihood, neither are pure. His defense for this (and it takes a tempter tantrum to occur to even get an explanation) is that rsoultin's wagon isn't pure because i'm on it... kind of circular logic there.


Damdred's reason to scum read me:I thought i did explaim about df, he fought woth hf and i thought the fight disnt feel like t v t. hf came out looking better. df has been misconstruing different things to make people look bad, me and my vote for reasons that arent teue, hf in the fight.

One of the things ive tried to read df as, as s um is hes a bit more hostile as scum than town I think. So it sort of fits here to.


This is pretty weak sauce. He says that i'm misconstruing things. I realized that I was wrong about his vote timing, and I admit that I was wrong. He's also brought up like 50 times his vote timing. It almost feels like he's trying to get reverse psychology town cred.

On February 09 2018 10:19 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 10:07 Mocsta wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:55 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:51 Mocsta wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:49 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:47 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence?


Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk

I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to say here?


i dont know what im doimg wrong and why people cant understand me....
Well, I would like a position on Rayn dropping all happenings in the game, to call me scum for writing <b>bomb</b>. Try to factor out your position on me please.


eh regardless of anything else i think its wrong and really thin.
imma make a bet with you.
rayn is going to come back and claim cop and claim red.

I will claim I am not a self-aware miller (obviously that is Koshi).

Roflcoptors will be posted.


Now in all seriousness. I am reviewing trfel filter, and am writing something in advance of my post release.
I am willing to open myself to considering DF.

Can you summarise for me why he is scum; and its really important to me, to understand what is similar about him this game to the previous game. Whether right or wrong, i that forms intrinsic value for me.


DF is antagonistic in his scum game, for example I was getting warm on putting his partner calix up for lynch. He would then take little things and force a argument/fight to get me ofd the track I wanted to go on.

It was extremely reminiscent of what he did against hf. He took a small thing and turned it into a larger thing and diverted the thread from discussinf the lynch into who cased tina first. It was pointless did not help town.

Also as town he is usually what i consider a trailblazer. Mafia shoots him a lot early for beong right or looking in strange places. Here I sort od feel he just exists pretty static and hes sidelined.

Now I think this is fair to say df was active eod however what he did, did not help scum either... but who knew that hf wasnt goingb to go rs. @hf could probably answer if df pushed him away from voting tina at all though.


This is actually a much better scum read on me. It actually sounds like a legitimate read. Overall, Damdred is a mixed bag with lots of reasons to be scum. His illogical/random play may fit a little better with how disorganized the scum game was.

Maybe Koshi isn't mafia. Hf/Damdred makes sense
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 12 2018 20:12 GMT
#2125
On February 13 2018 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
I appreciate your style df.


?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2018 20:18 GMT
#2126
Well I stopped reading but dnu why you have like a million scumreads left DF.

Pick one. Lynch. Repeat.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2018 20:20 GMT
#2127
On February 13 2018 04:28 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 17:24 Koshi wrote:
He is town doc. No worries.
rayn played his checks ok-ish.
Problem is df either called his bluff or Damdred played his hearth out yesterday.


Implies he still thinks mafia is between me and Damdred. Rayn just makes a case on HF and Koshi forgets this completely

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 21:47 Koshi wrote:
Well....
rayn made a pretty good case.
And ritoky is pretty chill

##vote hf



Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 21:58 Koshi wrote:
If you are town I resect you as a human being and I think you played a great game hf.


Wtf is this progression? So basically Koshi is lynching HF for playing a great town game?

I am lynching HF cuz rayn case is decent.
And because I have agreed a lot with what HF said this game.
The meta says when I like HF and think he is awesome he is mafia. When I want to murder him and his unborn children he is town.

meta says mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2018 20:22 GMT
#2128
And I do think there were some slight things off with HF his play. But I think Damdred is play was way more off.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2018 20:22 GMT
#2129
Like.. HF finds more inconsistencies as mafia than as town. That would be weird but also awesome.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2018 20:23 GMT
#2130
And I couldn't care less tbh. If I would be up for lynch sure. But atm who cares. We have a million misslynches and another check. yawn yawn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2018 20:24 GMT
#2131
Still the fact he sat on me the entire D1 and then went for the weirdest mafia kill out of the 2 bugs me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2018 20:44 GMT
#2132
And I mean he should have always voted rsoultin there.
I guess for mafia it was better that mderg died over rsoultin. But still power role...
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 12 2018 20:45 GMT
#2133
That's the opposite thing I'd do as mafia and you know it.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2018 20:45 GMT
#2134
ofc framer vs a normal cop is not that amazing. But still. Meh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2018 20:46 GMT
#2135
On February 13 2018 05:45 Holyflare wrote:
That's the opposite thing I'd do as mafia and you know it.

Maybe. I don't know anything atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 12 2018 20:46 GMT
#2136
If there's a roleblocker, we don't get another check off so idk why y'all are on autopilot.

And a roleblocker is likely if prplhz is actually medic soooooo
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 12 2018 20:47 GMT
#2137
There is nothing good about rayn's case because it's 50% rsoultin's posts and about 20% saying my vote doesn't make sense. It's not particularly great reasons.

Ask me anything. I'd much rather we lynch damdred and at least check me.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2018 20:48 GMT
#2138
On February 13 2018 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
There is nothing good about rayn's case because it's 50% rsoultin's posts and about 20% saying my vote doesn't make sense. It's not particularly great reasons.

Ask me anything. I'd much rather we lynch damdred and at least check me.

Nha game is played. Evidence is in the thread. I don't know. I admit it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 12 2018 20:48 GMT
#2139
On February 13 2018 05:46 darthfoley wrote:
If there's a roleblocker, we don't get another check off so idk why y'all are on autopilot.

And a roleblocker is likely if prplhz is actually medic soooooo

Yeah I guess. Still without a check I am willing to go to lylo.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 12 2018 21:01 GMT
#2140
On February 13 2018 05:46 darthfoley wrote:
If there's a roleblocker, we don't get another check off so idk why y'all are on autopilot.

And a roleblocker is likely if prplhz is actually medic soooooo

pst. I was hoping scum doesn't notice.
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