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wowowowow. was pretty sure it was tvt with how eod was going down.
but damn i will take that! =D
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also hi everyone. =D
je suis francais
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yo btw I had/have a town lean on RS. the way she did random filters this afternoon with not very stellar results and then got annoyed (or martyr-like) when ppl called her out for the stellar results, felt towny to my gut. also coming back after that is also more likely town imo.
not a strong read, but there it is.
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mocsta getting a bunch of town points from me cause he just is playing sooo differently to the nsm that just went over and he was scum in. fairly hard to change the style that hard in such a short time imo.
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also a random thought i had:
if i remember correctly: the rs wagon was for a long time the only serious one around, so i want to look at ppl who hoped onto that easily/meekily so that they look like they were doing/pushing someone.
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On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?
your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though
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On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though
anecdote on that teammate interaction:
i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like:
"Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter."
"Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter."
"@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?"
soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD
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On February 08 2018 05:52 Conversion wrote:@HF Cheeky. Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though Firstly, welcome! I think you are the one person back in whatever game I played that pointed out my peacing out to play Path of Exile. I forget which game. I do not see the relevance in having reads spilled out into the thread and being town. I do have other reads, I just did not feel them important enough to share with the thread and attempt to look like I am padding my filter. My thought process is, in my opinion, very transparent aside from that.. Mderg and prpl reads were blatantly sheeped from Koshi. Should be in my filter somewhere.
hm how aware are you of trying to look like not padding your filter?^^
maybe is should learn that skill.
thinking of it.
i thought your waffles on mderg, or rather you not voting mderg, looks okay cause you actually went and looked at his posts from the nsm. though there is ofc the possibility that mderg would have let you know about that, if you are/were partners.
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hmm... don't think that is slam dunk, but well into suspicion/lean territory.
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On February 08 2018 06:05 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 06:02 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:52 Conversion wrote:@HF Cheeky. On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though Firstly, welcome! I think you are the one person back in whatever game I played that pointed out my peacing out to play Path of Exile. I forget which game. I do not see the relevance in having reads spilled out into the thread and being town. I do have other reads, I just did not feel them important enough to share with the thread and attempt to look like I am padding my filter. My thought process is, in my opinion, very transparent aside from that.. Mderg and prpl reads were blatantly sheeped from Koshi. Should be in my filter somewhere. hm how aware are you of trying to look like not padding your filter?^^ maybe is should learn that skill. thinking of it. i thought your waffles on mderg, or rather you not voting mderg, looks okay cause you actually went and looked at his posts from the nsm. though there is ofc the possibility that mderg would have let you know about that, if you are/were partners. Past games I would have a near 10 page filter by the end of D1. I figured that wasn't good play from me, so I'm trying to refine it. Hence, I am very aware and trying to bleed town as much as possible from my posts, without spamming the thread as much to get it. My question to you would be: If I am scum (essentially making scum team mderg/Conversion/+1), who would be the last one?
good question, havent read all filters yet. just found a few things in yours interesting.
well. i dont think you could be scum with rsoultin.
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i was also reading trfels filter and am not sure why your argument made him switch to rsoultin.
which made me read your filter.
brief glance at ritoky said im cool with him
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On February 08 2018 06:07 Damdred wrote:
Rayn and I have a connwvtion thatvis deep every game. We agree while not talking *fist bump*.
Disformation roll a d20 and tell me what your read on conversion is your last post was a waffle.
got a 14.
apparently that says:
not slam dunk scum, meaning i will not vig shot shot him tonight or tunnel him till one of dies, but i think might be scum and I would not be averse to voting him.
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to add: in fact: if i dont find anything more slam dunk or convincing i will vote him
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tbh i am a bit confused by both rsoultin and mderg not voting to save themselves.
i also need to look at darthfoley. remember mixed feelings
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yeah that actually makes a lot of sense.
but I have it on good authority that rels slot is shockingly town... so wtf was scum doing?
lemme look at the votes a sec
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ritoky afks his vote on mderg fairly early in the day. says we could default lynch him instead for shennies. dont think that is likely to come from scum.
hf was hammer on scum. and even if both wagons are scum i think a scum!hf would have played this day differently.
outside of that it is a bit hard to tell imo. kinda depends on whether rsoultin is really scum or not.
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possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad.
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On February 08 2018 06:57 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad. indeed
mderg (5):: ritoky, Mocsta, trfel, Koshi, Holyflare
rsoultin (4): Conversion, darthfoley, raynpelikoneet, Damdred
Trfel (1): prplhz
darthfoley (2): mderg, rsoultin
Not Voting (1): Rels
ritoky as explained.
trfel did some waffling, so he could have made it onto either wagon imo.
koshi's eod seems to make sense.
holyflare as explained.
prplhz didnt give a fuck. so prolly not him either.
conv did some waffling, so he could have switched too.
rest i need to look at again
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On February 08 2018 07:11 Holyflare wrote:
Wasn't technically the hammer but i definitely secured it.
oh. you are right. my bad. hmm...
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something def is weird.
there were too many ppl who at some point had both rsoultin and mderg in their scum list or "i could vote for either". or were waffling between the too.
not necessarily scummy. i would have prolly waffled like a mofo as well.
but i guess at least:
trfel, Mocsta, Conversion, Damdred
could prolly have voted for either.
(havent checked everyone yet,)
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On February 08 2018 07:22 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 07:19 disformation wrote:
something def is weird.
there were too many ppl who at some point had both rsoultin and mderg in their scum list or "i could vote for either". or were waffling between the too.
not necessarily scummy. i would have prolly waffled like a mofo as well.
but i guess at least:
trfel, Mocsta, Conversion, Damdred
could prolly have voted for either.
(havent checked everyone yet,) tbf i also said i was fine with either, but more confident on rsoultin considering the pressure was starting to fall away from her (in the weird, apathetic, way you've described)
that whole wagon was weird. eod too. which is why i thought it was tvt.
like it picked up fairly fast like (i partly blame that nothing else was really going on) and then went to a point where it was kinda meh, but nobody wanted to do anything. then came mdergs bad list and ppl were starting to hop onto that. then there was a bit of waffling and/or ppl not caring between either. at some point ppl decided on which side they wanted to be. partly because no good/big third idea came. then BOTH dont vote to save themselves.
like really didnt expect a scum flip out of that one.
though i guess the logical conclusions are indeed:
a) both wagons scum
b) scum had 0 thread presence
i guess it is not impossible that someone bussed really hard for really no reason? but imo the whole building up of that wagon doesnt really feel like that?
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a) and b) dont both have to be true at the same time.
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On February 08 2018 07:32 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 07:30 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:22 darthfoley wrote:On February 08 2018 07:19 disformation wrote:
something def is weird.
there were too many ppl who at some point had both rsoultin and mderg in their scum list or "i could vote for either". or were waffling between the too.
not necessarily scummy. i would have prolly waffled like a mofo as well.
but i guess at least:
trfel, Mocsta, Conversion, Damdred
could prolly have voted for either.
(havent checked everyone yet,) tbf i also said i was fine with either, but more confident on rsoultin considering the pressure was starting to fall away from her (in the weird, apathetic, way you've described) that whole wagon was weird. eod too. which is why i thought it was tvt. like it picked up fairly fast like (i partly blame that nothing else was really going on) and then went to a point where it was kinda meh, but nobody wanted to do anything. then came mdergs bad list and ppl were starting to hop onto that. then there was a bit of waffling and/or ppl not caring between either. at some point ppl decided on which side they wanted to be. partly because no good/big third idea came. then BOTH dont vote to save themselves. like really didnt expect a scum flip out of that one. though i guess the logical conclusions are indeed: a) both wagons scum b) scum had 0 thread presence i guess it is not impossible that someone bussed really hard for really no reason? but imo the whole building up of that wagon doesnt really feel like that? I unserstand you dont want to hive me all credit because otherwise I wil get shot but pls give me all the credit.
is this a mugging?
can I keep my ID, its super annoying to replace those.
*hands Koshi all his credits*
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On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.
Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too. Did some1 play my game for the brownies?
dont think so. meant to ask.
i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer.
since the "known good" players were widely townread.
if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier?
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On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot.
On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.
Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too. Did some1 play my game for the brownies? dont think so. meant to ask. i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer. since the "known good" players were widely townread. if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier? No. I just read up to the lynch. And the answer is conversion indeed. So many townreads. Even mderg townread him. Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates.
huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate?
conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all.
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On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot. On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.
Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too. Did some1 play my game for the brownies? dont think so. meant to ask. i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer. since the "known good" players were widely townread. if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier? No. I just read up to the lynch. And the answer is conversion indeed. So many townreads. Even mderg townread him. Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates. huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate? conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all. Why is it for conversion different than others?
lets see if i can explain.
with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did.
with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well".
bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion.
does that make sense to you?
On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.
Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point:
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On February 08 2018 08:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:08 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot. On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.
Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too. Did some1 play my game for the brownies? dont think so. meant to ask. i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer. since the "known good" players were widely townread. if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier? No. I just read up to the lynch. And the answer is conversion indeed. So many townreads. Even mderg townread him. Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates. huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate? conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all. Why is it for conversion different than others? lets see if i can explain. with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did. with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well". bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion. does that make sense to you? On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.
Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point: Yes I understand your point. But I don't understand why you say it makes Conversion look better. The special attention is weird. And then Conversion his posts around EoD... I will get some quotes.
wait did i say better?
more likely to be scum.
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hum? "but his points on rsoultin resonate very well with me".
still read it as "i really like his points on rsoultin" (implying he likes conversion and dislikes rsoultin)
so dont think (2) is true?
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On February 08 2018 08:22 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:15 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 08:11 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 08:08 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot. On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.
Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too. Did some1 play my game for the brownies? dont think so. meant to ask. i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer. since the "known good" players were widely townread. if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier? No. I just read up to the lynch. And the answer is conversion indeed. So many townreads. Even mderg townread him. Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates. huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate? conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all. Why is it for conversion different than others? lets see if i can explain. with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did. with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well". bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion. does that make sense to you? On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.
Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point: Yes I understand your point. But I don't understand why you say it makes Conversion look better. The special attention is weird. And then Conversion his posts around EoD... I will get some quotes. wait did i say better? more likely to be scum. ah ok. Then we are seeing the same thing. I am tired so it is probably me.
meh tired too. prolly will go to bed soon.
happy we are seeing the same things though
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any specific reason on rayn? think i need to read his filter tomorrow.
for damdy i guess it is his vote / waiting out eod?
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On February 08 2018 08:32 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:20 disformation wrote:
hum? "but his points on rsoultin resonate very well with me".
still read it as "i really like his points on rsoultin" (implying he likes conversion and dislikes rsoultin)
so dont think (2) is true? I wrote poorly, apologies, as im jumping to a prediction/conclusion. I view mderg as struggling to speak anything meaningful. He has this stupid vague list post, yet, can agree about rsoultin.. how specific and peculiar? my jumping conclusion (i.e assumption) is because he knows rsoultin is scum, so believes it. apologies.
ah. so you are basically agreeing that there is something odd in conversion stuff, but it might be about rsoultin not conversion?
hm. i guess its not impossible. i still think it is more likely to be conversion? as koshi pointed out scum is not entirely unlikely to copy bad town reads on their mates.
might want to sleep about that though getting real tired xD
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On February 08 2018 17:28 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
It's probably frustrating to try and better yourself and your play to be met with the same results that you had previously. What, two people scumreading him? I think it was just koshi and mocsta. I know that emotions aren't logical by definition but I usually find the reasons for them make sense.
*cough* *cough*
but its cool. i gave all my creds to koshi already.
confused why conv arbitrarily decided im tpwn gor it when he has mocsta and koshi as scum. or omgus targets.
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On February 08 2018 17:17 Trfel wrote:Found my own answer, probably shouldn't be playing mafia this late  I guess I'm pretty confident that Conversion is town. Emotional outburst aside even. I don't think it's suspicious of him at all at end of day. If he's mafia, why would he set himself up for a switch into mderg, and then stay the course on rsoultin even when it's not looking good? And again, mderg wasn't trying to survive, he was giving up. It doesn't make sense for mderg and Conversion to be a team here; Conversion wouldn't try to save an mderg who wasn't trying to save himself. There's more to it than that, his reads themselves I feel show actual desire to solve the game and good thinking. He seems invested in his reads and the lynches and is willing to interact with others to help solve the game together. Some of the stuff he says is ridiculously suspicious (like saying he needs to read his own filter more carefully) but I don't think that's significant because mafia wouldn't be inclined to say that either. I don't have much reason to lynch him and I have plenty of reasons to townread him.
the weird thing is that a lot of ppl were super waffly about the lynch yesterday (as i pointed out) until late.
so its not easy to tell. maybe the two scum didnt want to be close together on the same wagon. maybe 1-2 were afk.
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@Trfl:
wat u think about:
On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot.
On February 08 2018 08:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:08 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot. On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.
Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too. Did some1 play my game for the brownies? dont think so. meant to ask. i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer. since the "known good" players were widely townread. if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier? No. I just read up to the lynch. And the answer is conversion indeed. So many townreads. Even mderg townread him. Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates. huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate? conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all. Why is it for conversion different than others? lets see if i can explain. with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did. with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well". bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion. does that make sense to you? On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.
Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point: Yes I understand your point. But I don't understand why you say it makes Conversion look better. The special attention is weird. And then Conversion his posts around EoD... I will get some quotes.
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On February 08 2018 20:30 disformation wrote:@Trfl: wat u think about: Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot. Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 08:11 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 08:08 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:56 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD Yeah. I agree that Conversion looked helpless around EoD. Looked like he wanted something to happen but because nothing happened stayed on rsoultin. And I do feel like he was against the mderg lynch without saying it. Or maybe he said it. Forgot. On February 08 2018 07:41 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 07:39 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 07:35 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
Most of my good feelings are also on mderg.
Conversion is bugging me. I like everything he says but it all looks like mafia speak too. Did some1 play my game for the brownies? dont think so. meant to ask. i wanted to, but I couldnt come up with a good answer. since the "known good" players were widely townread. if the answer is conversion (might be implied by the post you are quoting), did you see my stuff on him earlier? No. I just read up to the lynch. And the answer is conversion indeed. So many townreads. Even mderg townread him. Bad mafia always take over thread sentiment on teammates. huh. i might be conf. biasing and shit, but i even feel mderg's list entry on conversion is sligjhtly different than the others. with some others he is like "nah dunno" and here he spends the most text on a "pass for today". says he is super diconnected with the game and conversion is super not memorable, but the reads strongly resonate? conversion blasted mderg super hard for the list. but due to some light meta digging ends up back on rsoultin after all. Why is it for conversion different than others? lets see if i can explain. with the others he does kinda like this brief summary or is like "cant remember" what they did. with conversion he is like "i cant remember shit, but have to write stuff so i can give him a pass". imo there is just this disconnect between "not very memorable" and "resonate very well". bonus point: his trfel thing is also fairly focused on conversion. so he seems to be aware about stuff around conversion. does that make sense to you? On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.
Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point: Yes I understand your point. But I don't understand why you say it makes Conversion look better. The special attention is weird. And then Conversion his posts around EoD... I will get some quotes.
to specify:
with the first part i dont mean his eod (you already expalined and i can see that), but the @Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1? tidbit.
2nd part is the other way around, meaning mderg's strange entry on conv in the list.
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other random stuff. i think mocsta and rsoultin were talking about mbti at some point. imma istj. use that info as you want.
On February 08 2018 20:02 Koshi wrote:
12 pages of filter. Not going through that on mobile.
But the post in which rsoultin is angry after I call her out that she isnt doing shit and just filling her filter with drabble sounded supertownie.
No not supertownie but supergenuine.
She entered game and rayn took a giant dump on her. She is pissed and leaves. She enters thread with new hopes and tries her best and koshi yells at her saying she is doing shit all and is useless.
=
Outburst that every townie would have.
Mafia would be fake insulted. She was super genuine.
Rsoultin almost never mafia rayn. The acting of emotional feelings are INSANE FUCKING BRILLIANT.
yeah, that is why my gut was calling her town yesterday as well. think i mentioned that yesterday as well.
would give you more creds, but you already have all of them.
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yeah with what i've seen so far i am cool with df / have no desire to lynch him.
honestly just by poe i pretty much end up with the same list as koshi.
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On February 08 2018 21:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 20:36 disformation wrote:other random stuff. i think mocsta and rsoultin were talking about mbti at some point. imma istj. use that info as you want. On February 08 2018 20:02 Koshi wrote:
12 pages of filter. Not going through that on mobile.
But the post in which rsoultin is angry after I call her out that she isnt doing shit and just filling her filter with drabble sounded supertownie.
No not supertownie but supergenuine.
She entered game and rayn took a giant dump on her. She is pissed and leaves. She enters thread with new hopes and tries her best and koshi yells at her saying she is doing shit all and is useless.
=
Outburst that every townie would have.
Mafia would be fake insulted. She was super genuine.
Rsoultin almost never mafia rayn. The acting of emotional feelings are INSANE FUCKING BRILLIANT. yeah, that is why my gut was calling her town yesterday as well. think i mentioned that yesterday as well. would give you more creds, but you already have all of them. I know. You are a very smart man.
not sure if you are saying me is a smartie for a) the stuff on rsoultin b) giving you all my creds c) both
... its b) isnt it? xD
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if you are trying to pocket/buddy me...
you are extremely successful. :p
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On February 08 2018 22:11 Conversion wrote:
Assuming Mocsta is the real mad hatter, I will die by next day.
I am of the mindset that there is one mafia in Damdred/rayn/prplhz, and one mafia outside of it. Two mafia makes the game too easy, and mderg cruise controlled to make rsoultin and I look bad. Good play EoD on his end with how the lynch played out, although I still believe that saving himself would have bought more time as mafia.
Game looks way too easy as it seems if the entire mafia pool was in the three I mentioned above, but maybe I will be wrong and town will have an easy victory.
any specific reasons for damdy/rayn/prpl?
who would be your top pick for the scum outside of those 3?
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On February 08 2018 22:54 Koshi wrote:
I guess we lynch Damdred. Least resistance lynch.
shouldnt we be lynching the one who is most likely to flip scum? or do you think that least resistance equals scum here?
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damn. no wonder i never get scum lynched.
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but why didnt you guys lynch rels yesterday in that case?
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aight. @hf: any reeds to share while you are here? who u gonna want to lynch tomorrow?
also not sure where your conversion read is currently at. dont think mr. roboto is necessarily an alignment.
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On February 08 2018 23:11 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 22:54 Koshi wrote:
I guess we lynch Damdred. Least resistance lynch. How so? No one liked me throwing a bone there yesterday I much prefer rayn on d2
mh, if i remember that correctly that was a mix of "well he is currently sick" "damdred is not entirely unlikely to have a bad d1" "he might become a beautiful butterfly".
then he had the highly questionable eod vote and i dont think he turned into a beautiful butterfly either.
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tbh i am not entirely sure how to read damdy atm, mostly poe and/or no real good reason to call him town.
also fyi: trfel feels really genuine/town to me, at least tonewise, just not sure about his tr on conversion. so i would like him to walk me through that a bit more and address the points i lined out.
in the back of my head i think trfel was also not too hard to meta, but i cant remember what to look for. does anyone else remember?
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On February 08 2018 23:59 Damdred wrote:
Im up for lynch tommorow yay i guess?
idk what to think disf and rayn can both generally read me well. Rayn i take it you have read all of eod and night so far?
hm. there is a fairly specific thing you sometimes do as town. unfortunately you dont always do it, so its not 100% easy read. hasnt happened this game so far. feel free to do it, makes the game easier.
maybe ill look at your filter from the nsm again. think i was fairly confused as to why they did lynch you that game.
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@rayn: i love you too. the answer to that question is apparently, yes i do ask retarded questions as town.
@damdy: btw, where are you reeds at currently? who do you want to take out for lunch tomorrow?
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well he did say:
"one mafia in Damdred/rayn/prplhz, and one mafia outside of it"
which is like... well if you dont think there are 2 scum in there, you should at least have a candidate outside, right?
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i mean i somewhat get where rayn is coming from.
cause you kinda imply that those 3 dont look hot and that easily one of them has to be scum. so it is at least implied "i could lynch into them".
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mh. kinda skimmed through df filter. things of interest i found are that he has a very strong tr on conversion that is not rly explained and that one post start of night phase were he is like "nvm my eod looks bad".
i probably missed something though. koshi halp?
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oh. not sure if like that df has rayn/rsoultin as a possible scum team.
mderg/rs/rayn makes no sense in my head
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On February 09 2018 00:55 Koshi wrote:
The EoD thing is very self aware btw. Because I didnt see that and I dont think others had that feeling.
yes, i agree.
On February 09 2018 00:58 Koshi wrote:
Well Damdred is going for the 2 mafia make themselves look like utter shit to vote on the third mafia scenario.
that doesnt sound like a great plan if you put it like that. max wifom points though. cant wait to actually find out what happened that eod.
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hm. i guess trfel wont answer my questions on his conv tr anytime soon...
just to note: thought rs and conv are town.
not too fond of prpl and df.
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yeah yeah did a quick scroll through his filter and noted his most recent/prominent reads i guess.
he also was widely town read. and less likely to be protected than the likes of koshi/hf/rito i guess.
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On February 09 2018 05:42 ritoky wrote:
but guys, what happened to the SK?
totally decided to hold his shot till lylo for the surprise victory.
also wasnt very sure about his reads so did hold to not accidently shoot scum and make this game ultra town sided.
or double stacked with scum.
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aight, super fucking tired, so ill prolly bail.
hf makes a lot of sense logically. which is not very surprising its hf.
but i got pretty sad reading some of damdy's posts and town can do some pretty illogical stuff.
so head and heart not 100% in agreement atm.
will reread that stuff tomorrow. keep on posting.
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On February 09 2018 06:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 06:09 prplhz wrote:On February 09 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:On February 09 2018 06:06 prplhz wrote:
What happened to lynching Conversion? Right now Damdred has the most votes. Do you disagree with the damdred is mafia lynch or what? No, but I think it's weird that everybody seemed to forget about Conversion or something. I think both are good lynches. By the way you said you didn't like the mderg or rsoultin wagon previously and just before that said you like the reasoning on DF being mafia so why didn't you jump on DF with them? Why isn't he featured in your reads now?
as an addendum or whatever you call that, some stuff on df:
On February 09 2018 00:38 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 12:06 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 06:21 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 05:28 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 05:22 Conversion wrote:
He's actually home. I'm next to him and read his role PM and it said Serial Killer Lol, dude, you actually had me checking to see if there were a possible serial killer in this game @.@ Scum right here...i didnt care One reason why I scum read rsoultin over Mocsta is that this comment here perfectly summarizes how I felt about reading conversions comment This is the comment I loved. Vut fuck me his filter is not good at all. Goddamn df is on the table. Fuck. He is mafia isnt he?
On February 09 2018 00:54 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 00:51 disformation wrote:
mh. kinda skimmed through df filter. things of interest i found are that he has a very strong tr on conversion that is not rly explained and that one post start of night phase were he is like "nvm my eod looks bad".
i probably missed something though. koshi halp? Yes. And it makes him mafia.
On February 09 2018 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still have absolutely no idea how someone can townread disformation. There is nothing in his filter than a random pick on Conversation being scum (which is a really really opportunistic read) and then nothing that someone else hasn't said already. And asslicking Koshi.
u just jealous. also thats me every game ever. as ppl should know by now. maybe ill finally get misslynched for my playstyle. but i ll just put the blame on rels.
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On February 09 2018 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:lololol i just realized something that is really stupid but hilarious. 
stop teasing and spill the beans, too tired to f5 spam
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hmm... im trying to read hf vs damdy.
i kinda want to do a rephrase just to see if my tired brain understands:
hf is saying that he trs the "pure" wagon without good reason. plus him thinking that rsoultin is scum too creates a problem, because then damdy giving trs on hf and mocsta (on mderg) makes no sense? right?
damdy now says he has proper reason to tr these ppl not only that they were on the wagon? and reasons to scumread the ppl he is scumreading?
did i read that right?
agreeing with rayn... a df/rs/mderg scumteam is just super confusing to me... like wtf were they doing in that case
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hm damdy is your rsoultin scumread solely based on mderg and her strange vote?
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like to me eod / rs and mderg not voting to save themselves is super confusing so i think lynching whoever is the scummiest while ignoring that eod might be a good idea?
just not too sure who that would be rn xD
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@rayn:
i think i got distracted by koshi's great ass, or something.
but yeah got nothing of value to post rn so i think ill go to bed for rels now
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On February 09 2018 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 07:35 disformation wrote:
@rayn:
i think i got distracted by koshi's great ass, or something.
but yeah got nothing of value to post rn so i think ill go to bed for rels now I would loved if you told me what you were actually thinking but okay, maybe you're mafia then when you can't do that -- as i am not allowed to call rsoultin mafia.
*shrugs*
think i picked trfel as my first person to look at cause I didnt remember anything from skimming at work. saw some stuff about conversion convincing him to switch his read on rs. looked at conversion. saw conversions part with @mderg. posted about that.
other than that i was just throwing around ideas. in my mind i think i did look at vote stuff a bit, but didnt end up getting anywhere with that, which is why i stopped. yeah stuff like:
On February 08 2018 06:51 disformation wrote:
ritoky afks his vote on mderg fairly early in the day. says we could default lynch him instead for shennies. dont think that is likely to come from scum.
hf was hammer on scum. and even if both wagons are scum i think a scum!hf would have played this day differently.
outside of that it is a bit hard to tell imo. kinda depends on whether rsoultin is really scum or not.
On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad.
On February 08 2018 07:09 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 06:57 darthfoley wrote:On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad. indeed mderg (5):: ritoky, Mocsta, trfel, Koshi, Holyflare rsoultin (4): Conversion, darthfoley, raynpelikoneet, Damdred Trfel (1): prplhz darthfoley (2): mderg, rsoultin Not Voting (1): Rels ritoky as explained. trfel did some waffling, so he could have made it onto either wagon imo. koshi's eod seems to make sense. holyflare as explained. prplhz didnt give a fuck. so prolly not him either. conv did some waffling, so he could have switched too. rest i need to look at again
looks fairly straightforward to me
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On February 09 2018 07:59 darthfoley wrote:
What I don't understand is why scum!Damdred votes rsoultin at 5v3. I think it would make a lot more sense in that scenario to just hammer mderg and try to gain town cred from it.
If Damdred is scum, his vote + Mderg's lack of vote on rsoultin is probably the least optimal play ever. I just don't get it
yeah i dont really get damdreds eod at all.
he says he was kinda looking for a 3rd wagon, but i am not seeing evidence for that in his filter.
so not quite sure what he was doing as either alignment
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On February 09 2018 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:On February 09 2018 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 09 2018 07:35 disformation wrote:
@rayn:
i think i got distracted by koshi's great ass, or something.
but yeah got nothing of value to post rn so i think ill go to bed for rels now I would loved if you told me what you were actually thinking but okay, maybe you're mafia then when you can't do that -- as i am not allowed to call rsoultin mafia. *shrugs* think i picked trfel as my first person to look at cause I didnt remember anything from skimming at work. saw some stuff about conversion convincing him to switch his read on rs. looked at conversion. saw conversions part with @mderg. posted about that. other than that i was just throwing around ideas. in my mind i think i did look at vote stuff a bit, but didnt end up getting anywhere with that, which is why i stopped. yeah stuff like: On February 08 2018 06:51 disformation wrote:
ritoky afks his vote on mderg fairly early in the day. says we could default lynch him instead for shennies. dont think that is likely to come from scum.
hf was hammer on scum. and even if both wagons are scum i think a scum!hf would have played this day differently.
outside of that it is a bit hard to tell imo. kinda depends on whether rsoultin is really scum or not. On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad. On February 08 2018 07:09 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 06:57 darthfoley wrote:On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad. indeed mderg (5):: ritoky, Mocsta, trfel, Koshi, Holyflare rsoultin (4): Conversion, darthfoley, raynpelikoneet, Damdred Trfel (1): prplhz darthfoley (2): mderg, rsoultin Not Voting (1): Rels ritoky as explained. trfel did some waffling, so he could have made it onto either wagon imo. koshi's eod seems to make sense. holyflare as explained. prplhz didnt give a fuck. so prolly not him either. conv did some waffling, so he could have switched too. rest i need to look at again looks fairly straightforward to me Wel lyou didn't answer anything since the first quote in my post clearly says you want to look at people who were on rsoultin. Then you did something else and now you tell how you ended up from there to somewhere else. Aka you never say why you, after saying you wanna look at the other wagon, didn't actually do so but did something else instead.
hmm... i think i ended up looking at why trfel switched off rs instead.
probably cause i wanted to.
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On February 09 2018 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 08:04 disformation wrote:On February 09 2018 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 09 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:On February 09 2018 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 09 2018 07:35 disformation wrote:
@rayn:
i think i got distracted by koshi's great ass, or something.
but yeah got nothing of value to post rn so i think ill go to bed for rels now I would loved if you told me what you were actually thinking but okay, maybe you're mafia then when you can't do that -- as i am not allowed to call rsoultin mafia. *shrugs* think i picked trfel as my first person to look at cause I didnt remember anything from skimming at work. saw some stuff about conversion convincing him to switch his read on rs. looked at conversion. saw conversions part with @mderg. posted about that. other than that i was just throwing around ideas. in my mind i think i did look at vote stuff a bit, but didnt end up getting anywhere with that, which is why i stopped. yeah stuff like: On February 08 2018 06:51 disformation wrote:
ritoky afks his vote on mderg fairly early in the day. says we could default lynch him instead for shennies. dont think that is likely to come from scum.
hf was hammer on scum. and even if both wagons are scum i think a scum!hf would have played this day differently.
outside of that it is a bit hard to tell imo. kinda depends on whether rsoultin is really scum or not. On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad. On February 08 2018 07:09 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 06:57 darthfoley wrote:On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad. indeed mderg (5):: ritoky, Mocsta, trfel, Koshi, Holyflare rsoultin (4): Conversion, darthfoley, raynpelikoneet, Damdred Trfel (1): prplhz darthfoley (2): mderg, rsoultin Not Voting (1): Rels ritoky as explained. trfel did some waffling, so he could have made it onto either wagon imo. koshi's eod seems to make sense. holyflare as explained. prplhz didnt give a fuck. so prolly not him either. conv did some waffling, so he could have switched too. rest i need to look at again looks fairly straightforward to me Wel lyou didn't answer anything since the first quote in my post clearly says you want to look at people who were on rsoultin. Then you did something else and now you tell how you ended up from there to somewhere else. Aka you never say why you, after saying you wanna look at the other wagon, didn't actually do so but did something else instead. hmm... i think i ended up looking at why trfel switched off rs instead. probably cause i wanted to. yeah you probably wanted to do that instead what you said you wanted to do. seems good.
yeah, but why is that a problem? ill prolly go for bed attempt 3.
On February 09 2018 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 08:12 Mocsta wrote:On February 09 2018 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 09 2018 07:33 Mocsta wrote:
Damdred something something here
This is a thread summary of arguments everyone else has put up.
You know Mocsta, this post pisses me off quite a bit. It really does. Because your case on rsoultin at the start of D1 was taken off exactly from what i said. I understand you possibly don't realize it but you summarised nothing but my points on her in more words and without knowing the meta. I don't like you calling someone else's post thread summary when half of your D1 was nothing but a fucking thread summary from me and then you voted for mderg for no apparent reason other than "i like Koshi". So don't do that, regardless of your affiliation, which is btw scum. You are 1 vote of 11. you know the rest of the story. Sure i do. But i don't care. I just tell who i think is mafia and then i am right or wrong. That's probably something you didn't know about me because that has changed since you have last played with me. Unfortunately i am not alloed to call my other scumread scum so you just have to deal with me calling you scum.
wasnt i scum just now?
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On February 09 2018 08:18 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 08:02 disformation wrote:On February 09 2018 07:59 darthfoley wrote:
What I don't understand is why scum!Damdred votes rsoultin at 5v3. I think it would make a lot more sense in that scenario to just hammer mderg and try to gain town cred from it.
If Damdred is scum, his vote + Mderg's lack of vote on rsoultin is probably the least optimal play ever. I just don't get it yeah i dont really get damdreds eod at all. he says he was kinda looking for a 3rd wagon, but i am not seeing evidence for that in his filter. so not quite sure what he was doing as either alignment I think the last couple votes came within 2-3min of deadline. So as scum, you can prepping for a whole bunch of possibilities. Its just possible he was caught flat-footed - in particular if he is as sick as he says he is. His filter I believe expressed he considered mderg scum, so there is legit flow to extend a vote that way if required.
hm right, there was a bunch of stuff happening ~20mins b4 deadline and then the votes ~3mins b4 deadline. maybe need to look at timings tomorrow.
(maybe i will, maybe i wont, rn i think it might be a good idea :p)
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On February 09 2018 17:23 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 11:37 Damdred wrote:
Fuck it lets go, im just wrong on df.
If mderg and rs are scum together, df didnt do jackshit to help a counterwagon when he was presenr so doesnt make sense.
If mderg and df are scum together, you are right in that he should of bussed but now is part of the people who are being looked at.
His fihht i pointed out served no purpose and hurt hia cause if he is scum with mderg, he might od been antagonistic toqards hf but no real reason when he needs him to kill tina. (if shes town)
probably just town here because it doesnr make sense and im an idiot Hahaha. Goddamn. If you are town damdred you play town on such a fucking weird way I probably shouldnt call you mafia anymore in the future. I still will ofcourse. How the fuck are you still on rsoultin is mafia... you have 0 reasoning why she is mafia except the vote thing. She has a million post in this thread and you never challenge her critically on them (If you did it once my point still stands) and every time you talk to her you are a weak lamb defending yourself and pleasing her. Dafuqqqqq
yeah. even asked him about it...
On February 09 2018 17:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 14:14 Mocsta wrote:
my vote is sticking with damdred.
p37 in particular he is really out of flow with thread sentiment re: mderg.
hes subtlety trying to sway from mderg, and then around p40 suddenly "sorta can vote" mderg, even though his key scum read mocsta is parked on there.
His whole game is "im still forming opinions' yet is always just talking to people and happy for it all to be superficial, as per the recent conversion discussions across p76/77.
My revised reads list:
town
Ritoky
darthfoley
Conversion
rsoultin
Koshi
Holyflare
prplhz
null land
disinformation
scummy
Damdred
raynpelikoneet
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prplhz would be first of my town pool to lynch into if {Damdred, rayn, disinfo} produced only 1 scum. We should lynch rayn if damdred is mafia. Just because it is unbelievable ridiculous how wrong he is this game. After last game in the qt he calls some lynches bad. The very next game he is mafia reading the most obvious hard working townie in the game while thread sentiment is sitting on mafia. Sureeeeeeeeee
tbh your super hard tr on me is getting a tad creepy. xD
On February 09 2018 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:There are a few reasons i think damdred is town. He chose a route i wouldn't expect him to choose as mafia early on in the game (calling rsoultin and ritoky mafia). He chose a route i wouldn't expect him to choose at the start of N1. He is basically not taking any of the outs being offered i think he could easily see 100 miles away as scum. He chose to vote rsoultin over mderg (only a minor point but anyways). He got all emo over something that wasn't really justified but it looks like he genuinely doesn't understand what people were trying to say and he genuinely thinks he has been ignored or misunderstood. In all i think Damdred's play makes absolutely no sense as mafia. I think Mocsta is completely misconstruing what Damdred's actions and when trying to elaborate more onto that he cannot give a reasonable answer. He just picked a post that looks bad and made it look like it's a mafia post for some invented reason. I don't really think Conversion is mafia. He just feels like a person who has absolutely no idea what he should do. Just because i have more scumreads and he doesn't fit anywhere. purplehaze is the least town of my townreads, just because after a bit townie D1 he has gone back to only commenting on "good post", "funny post", "this" and nothing more. I don't think df is mafia for his eod1. I think this summarized it quite well: Show nested quote +It was extremely reminiscent of what he did against hf. He took a small thing and turned it into a larger thing and diverted the thread from discussinf the lynch into who cased tina first. It was pointless did not help town.
like lets assume that tina is town, df auccessfully pushed hf (maybe) to not vote town tina instead hf goes onto his scum partnwr mderg when the other people on mdeeg are afk. Like, this looks like a mafia thing to do for sure but if you account the situation it doesn't make any sense as mafia to do that. If df is mafia then the plan was not to bus (because he could have just voted for mderg if the plan was to bus), instead he chose not to bus but then do stuff that has a low chance of helping lynch town instead of mafia. Makes no sense. Obviously this doesn't matter if rsoultin is mafia but i have already said why that one doesn't work either on df being scum. df also has the "i am choosing a route that is very unlikely to work" thing after D1 in case he is mafia. I made a post on disformation here, it doesn't make sense, he couldn't give anywhere reasonable answer. Obviously noone in teh fucking game cares. Why do i even try? It is especially funny for Koshi who thinks i should be doing something and when i do something obviously that gets ignored. But it doesn't matter Koshi, i will just do what i do, then you start calling me obvious scum at some point, then i call you bad, then you lynch me, then i call you bad again. I think you're lynching town rn, and i know how Damdred feels. ftr the one i am not calling mafia today has a veeeery weird reaction to Damdred's emo burst. I think it's a bad reaction from someone who is supposed to know Damdred better.
the thing that is confusing me about conversion is that after he was playing just fine for a while and ppl pretty much eased off him, he does the martyr thing again? shouldnt he feel better as town by now and just continue playing? feels like a cheap excuse kinda thing... but i dont know the guy very well.
as for your stuff on me. i cant fault you for being suspicious of Rels slot.
you also found an inconsistency you pointed out in a very rayn manner. problem with that specifically inconsistency is that I (and apparently a lot of other ppl too) dont understand why that is AI. like if you want to lynch ppl for that kind of stuff you would hit a lot of town imo.
will be back after lunch and maybe look at mocsta and damdy again. i think i also wanted to look at vote timings. lets see if i find the time. maybe i should just stop talking about what i might or not might want to do.
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pretty sure town!rayn pushed other towns for similar stuff before. so i am not too sure on that one.
@mocsta: n1 was like literally yesterday and were are not even halfway into the day? your post on ritoky earlier was also pretty much my read on him (just in better wording), so i still feel my content should be good from your pov. you also didnt like rayn's point on me and think rayn is scum?
dont blame you for not trusting rels slot, but i am not sure what you are trying to do here.
also i think i would have bombed myself instead of posting the pm.
also reminds me that i really would like to have a post from ritoky on damdred soonish.
also when you say best option.
does that make me a better option than rayn or damdred? or is it like damdy > rayn > me? damdy > me > rayn?
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implying my analysis is usually pretty bleh as town. =p
not gonna lie, if we both end up being alive on like a D5 I will squint at you real paranoid like.
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yo rit, please chill and give a damdy read?
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On February 09 2018 12:40 Mocsta wrote:EoD1 with votes inserted - starts from when mderg received real votes+ Show Spoiler [p30 (votes)] +On February 07 2018 19:45 Koshi wrote:
imo the townies this game are destroying each other. Which is fine if you come to a point we all sing kumbaya together in the end.
My point on prplhz is good. Him having a problem with the bad tr from df on me without having a problem with me is also slightly more mafia.
Mderg is super sideline like others have been saying. Me first though. He has no original thoughts and have had the solo "I am tired I dont want to play" post mafia makes more often than town.
Damdred could be a butterfly who is now sleeping as a cocoon. But he could be mafia easily as well. Very easily.
Rels w.e. We cant know. On February 07 2018 19:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:34 Mocsta wrote:
isnt overplaying it.. hes calling me scum you idiot. O rly. Explain to me where. On February 07 2018 19:52 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:46 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 19:34 Mocsta wrote:
isnt overplaying it.. hes calling me scum you idiot. O rly. Explain to me where. how about his whole filter.... whats there to explain? On February 07 2018 19:54 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:45 Koshi wrote:
imo the townies this game are destroying each other. Which is fine if you come to a point we all sing kumbaya together in the end.
My point on prplhz is good. Him having a problem with the bad tr from df on me without having a problem with me is also slightly more mafia.
Mderg is super sideline like others have been saying. Me first though. He has no original thoughts and have had the solo "I am tired I dont want to play" post mafia makes more often than town.
Damdred could be a butterfly who is now sleeping as a cocoon. But he could be mafia easily as well. Very easily.
Rels w.e. We cant know. i find this post good. yes, im going to legitimately vote mderg. that summarises quite well what i have been feeling. ##Unvote
##Vote: mdergas an aside, i can accept a town!DF thinking im scum. Hes quite a pussy as scum so I can see him being cautious of me. Rsoultin.. hmm, i dunno to be honest. Even though I legit pocketed her last game, I expect her personality to brush that off as "lesson learned" and not keep injecting "ohhh. im so cautious of this and that"..but thats my prediction on her behaviour and i should treat it as that. On February 07 2018 19:55 Mocsta wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: mderg On February 07 2018 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
##vote mderg On February 07 2018 22:48 Trfel wrote:
##unvote rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
Koshi (1): Holyflare, Trfel
mderg (3):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin
prplhz (1):: Koshi
Conversion (0): rsoultin
Holyflare (0): mderg
ritoky (0): rsoultin
darthfoley (0): raynpelikoneet
Not Voting (4): Damdred, Rels, prplhz, trfel
On February 07 2018 19:56 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn's confidence in incorrects reads fuels me On February 08 2018 00:58 Trfel wrote:
##vote mderg rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
Koshi (1): Holyflare, Trfel
mderg (4):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin, trfel
prplhz (1):: Koshi
Conversion (0): rsoultin
Holyflare (0): mderg
ritoky (0): rsoultin
darthfoley (0): raynpelikoneet
Not Voting (3): Damdred, Rels, prplhz
On February 07 2018 19:57 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:20 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 19:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 07 2018 19:05 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley
the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable. no. not a suitable day1 vote. Damdred all the way I am also at the point of wanting to read a prplhz scum game againi dont like at all he predicted town rayn/rsoultin early on. now you are getting bad points for doing something that hasn't anything to do with alignments. excuse me? what is not alignment indicative? On February 07 2018 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me. and.. you are 1 vote of 13. get used to ppl not sucking you off. I really want to townread you for this comment alone lol On February 07 2018 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi town btw
I did the same thing as him last game but compeletly different delivery and intent
That post has no value as scum. It really doeant On February 07 2018 20:00 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:57 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 19:20 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 19:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 07 2018 19:05 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley
the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable. no. not a suitable day1 vote. Damdred all the way I am also at the point of wanting to read a prplhz scum game againi dont like at all he predicted town rayn/rsoultin early on. now you are getting bad points for doing something that hasn't anything to do with alignments. excuse me? what is not alignment indicative? On February 07 2018 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me. and.. you are 1 vote of 13. get used to ppl not sucking you off. I really want to townread you for this comment alone lol Now you see the light There is no vader here. Tell me about mderg puh leaae On February 07 2018 20:03 darthfoley wrote:
@ritoky
I was angle shooting
Also rayn's big "gotcha" moment doesn't make sense. A scum slip is when people say "I believe am I Town" not "I am Town and I believe your arguments are incorrect." But now were just talking semantics On February 07 2018 20:07 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game. I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read. Regarding mderg, I've made a few posts already about how disconnected he is in the game. It's actually one of the biggest question marks I have on rayn and HF. For so long they railed on me for "not being involved in the game" while seemingly ignoring mderg who has been around to post but hasn't. This reason especially comes off as a bad reason to townread Mocsta. I think you could Town read Mocsta for a few reasons that I could buy as genuine beliefs, but I have not thought to myself, "you know what, Mocsta really knows where he's going this game." It almost feels like a TMI spew town read if mderg flips mafia On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi
The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.
However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.
This to me is non characyeristic. On February 07 2018 20:09 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
while mderg lacks a bit of enthusiasm he had last game i think the last game was best i have ever seen mderg play. Also i think he is focusing on the right things (aka rsoultin). Like this read just seems very superficial On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. On February 07 2018 20:10 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:07 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game. I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read. Regarding mderg, I've made a few posts already about how disconnected he is in the game. It's actually one of the biggest question marks I have on rayn and HF. For so long they railed on me for "not being involved in the game" while seemingly ignoring mderg who has been around to post but hasn't. This reason especially comes off as a bad reason to townread Mocsta. I think you could Town read Mocsta for a few reasons that I could buy as genuine beliefs, but I have not thought to myself, "you know what, Mocsta really knows where he's going this game." It almost feels like a TMI spew town read if mderg flips mafia lol yeah that makes aense actually. He probably legit doesnt understand what im saying so doesnt know how to twist it into saying im scum. Ok. I will read detention again On February 07 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi
The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.
However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.
This to me is non characyeristic. To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content On February 07 2018 20:12 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. talking to me? Who cares if my argument is wrong Care if its intentional On February 07 2018 20:13 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 07:35 mderg wrote:On February 06 2018 07:22 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 07:13 mderg wrote:On February 06 2018 06:50 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 06:45 mderg wrote:On February 06 2018 06:37 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 06:36 mderg wrote:On February 06 2018 06:34 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
The fact is you can't be bothered because it isn't really important and is pretty irrelevant. Rayn makes a wall of text on it and it's overblown. There's a couple of reasons that spring to mind but there's nothing wrong with voting rayn in the meantime. a tually ita because i needed to piss and am goinf back to sleep lol But.. what yoy say is interesting. I will considee when i wake if a wall of text was deserving over a "ping" Going back to sleep is probably a good idea considering the way you write at the moment Bro-ski Nice joke but not very hipster of you Be that wanderer and tell me thoights on rsoultin please Was thinking nothing about her posts but that On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though. actually sounds a bit bullshitty to me Why? Maybe bullshitty is the wrong word but this "unnatural place for someone's mind to go" is a bit much regarding an obvious joke post Again, why does it being an obvious joke post default to bullshit? I read the beginning of the sentence and assumed mafia would be the conclusion. It wasn't. That caught my eye more than all the other obvious jokes flying around -shrugs- I agree that it's pretty moot since it was just a passing thought that for some stupid reason has now become the focal point of the thread. What do you think about mocsta bandwagoning on that? @DF, so it's scummy for me to comment on it like I did but you also don't like mocsta. I don't understand. I guess my mind is more simple than that. I see joke post -> I mentally discard it About Mocsta: I can kind of see what he's seeing but I'm already struggling to understand what he's saying Very odd read progression imo 1. I can kind of see what he's seeing 2. I am already struggling to understand what he's saying 3. MOCSTA KNOWS WHERE HES GOING THIS GAME but I thought you couldn't understand what he was saying (?) On February 07 2018 20:13 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi
The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.
However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.
This to me is non characyeristic. To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content tell me. Is rayn always so self centred? Ps. I like HF this game. Same vibe as last On February 07 2018 20:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:12 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. talking to me? Who cares if my argument is wrong Care if its intentional No to df. That is the reason rayn scumreads df. About tfrel: I am bad at reading people like that. So I cant comment. You say his focus is deliberately focussed on some people while ignoring others? In this case ignoring rsoultin. Maybe. What I see is that he is playing the game trying to solve it. I do not see mafia intention behind how he solves it. I do believe all his scumreads are wrong, but I dont think it makes him mafia. On February 07 2018 20:18 Mocsta wrote:
Yes strong town lean +5
Koshi
Hf
Darthfoley
Conversion
Nullish -2 to +4
Ritoky
Rayn
Rsoultin
Rels
Trfel
Prplhz
Scummy -5
Mderg
Damdred
On February 07 2018 20:18 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn claims to like mderg for focusing on the right thingS (plural) when his whole filter exists in the echo chamber of "rsoultin is scum" thread sentiment reads.
He has made one comment on me (with no conclusion) and one townread on Mocsta for wrong reasons.
Could be down to lynch. But I also get the willies that rsoultin's wagon is starting to face some pressure. Mafia would be likely to sit on their hands and do nothing if she's Town. to be determined On February 07 2018 20:20 darthfoley wrote:
I would actually appreciate Conversion's feedback in the thread. He was playing well earlier On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"
You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room. On February 07 2018 20:20 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:13 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi
The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.
However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.
This to me is non characyeristic. To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content tell me. Is rayn always so self centred? Ps. I like HF this game. Same vibe as last Yes. I know he also tunnels hardcore as Town. Not really familiar with his mafia play. On February 07 2018 20:22 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:16 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 20:12 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. talking to me? Who cares if my argument is wrong Care if its intentional No to df. That is the reason rayn scumreads df. About tfrel: I am bad at reading people like that. So I cant comment. You say his focus is deliberately focussed on some people while ignoring others? In this case ignoring rsoultin. Maybe. What I see is that he is playing the game trying to solve it. I do not see mafia intention behind how he solves it. I do believe all his scumreads are wrong, but I dont think it makes him mafia. analytical ppl can be wrong. So bad scumreads dont make him mafia either. Its more he set the standard as deep and inciteful. I had to read thr conversion/trfel posts like 3 to 4 times cos i just dont view the game that deep on a filter by filter level. Bht once i got it.. it all made sense so im like. What a town motherfucker. This is real content. Then to see this guy casually vote someone on the sheep and withoit interrogsting them.. thata just not congruent with what i would expect.. In short. He came across as super original And ended up as a copy paster. Whilst hr can agree with a good case. I still expect him to do his own homework on it. Instead there ks none of this deep insight into why rsoultin is scum On February 07 2018 20:24 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:18 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn claims to like mderg for focusing on the right thingS (plural) when his whole filter exists in the echo chamber of "rsoultin is scum" thread sentiment reads.
He has made one comment on me (with no conclusion) and one townread on Mocsta for wrong reasons.
Could be down to lynch. But I also get the willies that rsoultin's wagon is starting to face some pressure. Mafia would be likely to sit on their hands and do nothing if she's Town. to be determined I disagree I wrote repeatedly in qt that i always want an alternative wagon second 24hrs so people dont get itchy. I think its more a town tell . If mafia. I thinm optimal play is to either fight before it is a wagon or bus it outright On February 07 2018 20:25 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"
You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room. No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong. Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards On February 07 2018 20:25 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:20 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 20:13 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi
The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.
However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.
This to me is non characyeristic. To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content tell me. Is rayn always so self centred? Ps. I like HF this game. Same vibe as last Yes. I know he also tunnels hardcore as Town. Not really familiar with his mafia play. His mafia play is really good. If town is wrong he can make a giant post with fresh arguments that fit towns current believes and cements them even further. Making it very unlikely town recovers fast. His town play is hit or miss early. And gets more likely to hit later on. But I have seen him be miss till like mid d3. After that he is hit or rip. That being said. He can be hit d1 and then he is able to convince the thread he is right. Because he is so relentless. If thread sentiment doesnt believe him he is wrong most of the times. Thread sentiment is a good indicator. On February 07 2018 20:28 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:22 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 20:16 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 20:12 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. talking to me? Who cares if my argument is wrong Care if its intentional No to df. That is the reason rayn scumreads df. About tfrel: I am bad at reading people like that. So I cant comment. You say his focus is deliberately focussed on some people while ignoring others? In this case ignoring rsoultin. Maybe. What I see is that he is playing the game trying to solve it. I do not see mafia intention behind how he solves it. I do believe all his scumreads are wrong, but I dont think it makes him mafia. analytical ppl can be wrong. So bad scumreads dont make him mafia either. Its more he set the standard as deep and inciteful. I had to read thr conversion/trfel posts like 3 to 4 times cos i just dont view the game that deep on a filter by filter level. Bht once i got it.. it all made sense so im like. What a town motherfucker. This is real content. Then to see this guy casually vote someone on the sheep and withoit interrogsting them.. thata just not congruent with what i would expect.. In short. He came across as super original And ended up as a copy paster. Whilst hr can agree with a good case. I still expect him to do his own homework on it. Instead there ks none of this deep insight into why rsoultin is scum Well... I think what you write here makes him town. And that what you attribute to him being possible mafia might be a flaw in his game. Unless you can point out the mafia agenda in him sheeping we can't lynch him. On February 07 2018 20:29 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
while mderg lacks a bit of enthusiasm he had last game i think the last game was best i have ever seen mderg play. Also i think he is focusing on the right things (aka rsoultin). Be honest, you're only townreading me because I'm on the same page as you on rsoultin. I haven't done shit this game. On February 07 2018 20:30 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:25 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"
You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room. No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong. Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards Coolio. I believe you. I very easily townread you for some reason. And I havent been wrong yet. But I think you never been mafia. Anyway. Last 3 games I tr you fast and correct. On February 07 2018 20:31 Mocsta wrote:
Never thought he was a good lymxh option
How does this development make you feel about prplhz? On February 07 2018 20:32 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:30 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 20:25 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"
You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room. No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong. Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards Coolio. I believe you. I very easily townread you for some reason. And I havent been wrong yet. But I think you never been mafia. Anyway. Last 3 games I tr you fast and correct. Lol This is a funniest comment nomination Me and darth were scum together last game... you knlw.. brutal bus everyome was talking about On February 07 2018 20:32 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:31 Mocsta wrote:
Never thought he was a good lymxh option
How does this development make you feel about prplhz? What development? I dont follow. On February 07 2018 20:33 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:32 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 20:30 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 20:25 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"
You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room. No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong. Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards Coolio. I believe you. I very easily townread you for some reason. And I havent been wrong yet. But I think you never been mafia. Anyway. Last 3 games I tr you fast and correct. Lol This is a funniest comment nomination Me and darth were scum together last game... you knlw.. brutal bus everyome was talking about Yes. I wasnt in the game. I meant he wasnt mafia in a game I was alive in recently. On February 07 2018 20:34 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:32 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 20:31 Mocsta wrote:
Never thought he was a good lymxh option
How does this development make you feel about prplhz? What development? I dont follow. you just aaid. My comments on trfel indicate town Prplhz was playing against thread sentiment by shitting on trfel to make a black truffle. Yoy said you liked this about prplhz.. and i believ it lined up with yoyr read. So of leaning town.. does this influence prplhz read? On February 07 2018 20:38 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:34 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 20:32 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 20:31 Mocsta wrote:
Never thought he was a good lymxh option
How does this development make you feel about prplhz? What development? I dont follow. you just aaid. My comments on trfel indicate town Prplhz was playing against thread sentiment by shitting on trfel to make a black truffle. Yoy said you liked this about prplhz.. and i believ it lined up with yoyr read. So of leaning town.. does this influence prplhz read? No. I never said that. I am scumreading/voting prplhz because he nitpicked something out of tfrel filter ignoring the broader picture. prplhz has a nightmare filter and I dont care too much if he is mafia or town. I just want him out of the game and develop my reads further on people that actually play the game. Like rsoultin. Mderg same story. On February 07 2018 20:41 Mocsta wrote:
Fuck me. Am i really payojg that little attention
Will walk away then happy with my vote on mderg On February 07 2018 20:48 Mocsta wrote:
Wait before i go
Why is there resistanxe to damdred...
How can he say tina is not her town self
Then say i should be ashamed of myself.
I was the primary pusher of tina.. wtf? On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game. I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read. Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch. On February 07 2018 21:00 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote:On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game. I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read. Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch. Hmmm. I guess I can see what you mean. Has your read on him changed at all since? On February 07 2018 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Yes lynch Damdred again and let df and rsoultin away with that bs. maybe even better lynch me? On February 07 2018 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or mby you should wait until d2 and lynch unccd vigilante who shot mafia because someone talked about sk. That would make my day. On February 07 2018 21:07 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote:On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game. I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read. Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch. i dont think thag is accurate unleas referring to being bored by a predetermjned lynch. Im disappointed with you mderg On February 07 2018 21:08 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or mby you should wait until d2 and lynch unccd vigilante who shot mafia because someone talked about sk. That would make my day. Im hatter not vig On February 07 2018 21:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or mby you should wait until d2 and lynch unccd vigilante who shot mafia because someone talked about sk. That would make my day. We won that game. And I agree that was great. Could do it again. On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
On February 07 2018 21:32 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
Mocsta is moving away from rsoultin. Rayn is trying to lynch me but also rsoultin. On February 07 2018 21:32 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:00 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 20:53 mderg wrote:On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game. I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read. Pretty much everything early on revolved around his scumread on rsoultin and his desire to get her lynched. Last game it felt like he latched onto every other case without any focus on who he actually voted or wanted to lynch. Hmmm. I guess I can see what you mean. Has your read on him changed at all since? A bit, he's certainly a bit more jumpy now On February 07 2018 21:32 darthfoley wrote:
maybe I like rayn again On February 07 2018 21:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:07 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game. I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read. Regarding mderg, I've made a few posts already about how disconnected he is in the game. It's actually one of the biggest question marks I have on rayn and HF. For so long they railed on me for "not being involved in the game" while seemingly ignoring mderg who has been around to post but hasn't. This reason especially comes off as a bad reason to townread Mocsta. I think you could Town read Mocsta for a few reasons that I could buy as genuine beliefs, but I have not thought to myself, "you know what, Mocsta really knows where he's going this game." It almost feels like a TMI spew town read if mderg flips mafia I think it's more that I don't remember anything mderg has posted and that resonated with how I felt about him last game. On February 07 2018 21:41 rsoultin wrote:I'm tempted to sit on you because of ritoky. Your reads still seem to change based on others' reads on you, though. Or at least on people scumreading you. That resembles your scum play to me. If you have town games that show you kinda OMGUS your way through games, could you link one of them, please? I'll follow up eventually if I don't get lynched today, but my bruised ego would prefer a tidy collection of correct reads to leave town with, and I doubt I'll have the time before deadline to pursue that avenue. On February 07 2018 21:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or mby you should wait until d2 and lynch unccd vigilante who shot mafia because someone talked about sk. That would make my day. What did you disagree with on my darth foley read? You asked for my filter dive on him (demanded it actually), I quoted where I'd already given it just as I quoted the ritoky posts that had me reading his game as fluid that I'd already given to holyflare when you asked, and you insta-voted me. So either you have a problem with my read that I'd like explained, or you didn't realize I was quoting where I'd already answered what you were asking for. On February 07 2018 21:50 rsoultin wrote:
-snorts- I don't know why I ever thought Conversion looked scummy. I'm stupid apparently. Probably more liking where truffle was coming from and not thinking about Conversion's alignment clearly.
There's still the claiming to be caught up but not and slight contradictions, but I don't think that's very alignment indicative in this case. It's kind of bad but his case on me is probably the biggest thing that makes him more likely town in my eyes.
Not bothering with Rels.
Neither of these two should be lynched today. On February 07 2018 21:51 Koshi wrote:
Ofc Rels should be up for lynch... On February 07 2018 21:53 prplhz wrote:
alright who on earth is Ian On February 07 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:50 rsoultin wrote:
-snorts- I don't know why I ever thought Conversion looked scummy. I'm stupid apparently. Probably more liking where truffle was coming from and not thinking about Conversion's alignment clearly.
There's still the claiming to be caught up but not and slight contradictions, but I don't think that's very alignment indicative in this case. It's kind of bad but his case on me is probably the biggest thing that makes him more likely town in my eyes.
Not bothering with Rels.
Neither of these two should be lynched today. The funny thing is that nobody understands why you even thought conversion was mafia to begin with because you didn't say a thing. So why did you find him scummy? On February 07 2018 21:54 prplhz wrote:
I get Tina because she's the only girl and Joni because it's short for Jonihyväälioulu or something but Ian could be just about anybody On February 07 2018 21:58 darthfoley wrote:damdred I believe. be back about 1 hour before deadline. hopefully i'm not getting lynched by then On February 07 2018 21:58 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley
the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable. I'm not a big fan of Joni's townread on mderg or the fact that he was (is?) scumreading ritoky for the same reason that I was, but honestly this post probably makes him town. That and I'm generally not getting the 'scream until my target is lynched' vibe that I normally get from a scum Joni - he's still pushing, but taking the time to prod. Caveat here is he knows how I read him and has catered to that before. Caveat to the caveat is if he were scum here he could push me until the cows come home with no one listening to my trying to say he's scum for not involving people, and no one else seems to have that read nailed down on him. So. Still pretty sure he's town. Just being Joni. On February 07 2018 21:59 rsoultin wrote:In the absence of anyone scummy, sure. I don't make a habit of lynching an afk Rels on D1 because, as you said with Damdred, he can turn into a butterfly. On February 07 2018 22:04 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:On February 07 2018 21:50 rsoultin wrote:
-snorts- I don't know why I ever thought Conversion looked scummy. I'm stupid apparently. Probably more liking where truffle was coming from and not thinking about Conversion's alignment clearly.
There's still the claiming to be caught up but not and slight contradictions, but I don't think that's very alignment indicative in this case. It's kind of bad but his case on me is probably the biggest thing that makes him more likely town in my eyes.
Not bothering with Rels.
Neither of these two should be lynched today. The funny thing is that nobody understands why you even thought conversion was mafia to begin with because you didn't say a thing. So why did you find him scummy? Mostly just inconsistencies and nodding my head to Truffle's posts which gave me warm fuzzies at the time. I was a shameful sheeple. It wasn't my strongest read at the time. Thus pursuing ritoky. However, ritoky addressed some of my concerns and then Conversion comes to the thread echoing a sentiment you'd just posted...something about me not doing anything about my scumreads. Then posted that well I'd poked at ritoky but that didn't mean anything because he didn't see what I'd gotten from it. Maybe it was an emotional reaction at the time, but it looked to me like he hadn't actually read what I'd posted since he'd left, then realized his mistake and posted to acknolwedge it before he could be called out on it, but still stick to his read. In effect, though, even if that's true it still could have come from town. I'm just bad. On February 07 2018 22:08 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:59 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 21:51 Koshi wrote:
Ofc Rels should be up for lynch... In the absence of anyone scummy, sure. I don't make a habit of lynching an afk Rels on D1 because, as you said with Damdred, he can turn into a butterfly. That is my point On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.
Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point: On February 07 2018 22:16 rsoultin wrote:Pending on you, koshi. It skeeves me out a little that you're focused on lynchbait and right on my alignment where most everyone else is wrong. I know you've picked your scum game up recently. But I can see where you're coming from on your prp lynch and it really comes down to whether or not 1) I agree that all the active people are more likely town or at least have a decent shot at it or 2) that it makes sense for you to think that. Also, could you explain this? I think you said it was about df and why rayn scumreads him, but I'm not following at all: Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.
This is nitpicking. And that is all it is. On February 07 2018 22:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:16 rsoultin wrote:Pending on you, koshi. It skeeves me out a little that you're focused on lynchbait and right on my alignment where most everyone else is wrong. I know you've picked your scum game up recently. But I can see where you're coming from on your prp lynch and it really comes down to whether or not 1) I agree that all the active people are more likely town or at least have a decent shot at it or 2) that it makes sense for you to think that. Also, could you explain this? I think you said it was about df and why rayn scumreads him, but I'm not following at all: On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. If you cant follow it you are not reading the thread. It is rayn is nr 1 reason to scumread df and he explained it. And I already explained this very post to mocsta as well. And on top of that df answered me already. I cant help blind people in a forum mafia game. This is just pathetic. On February 07 2018 22:23 Koshi wrote:
You have to not have read 7-10 posts to not understand the post...
Explain to me in extreme detail why prplhz is town or "ok" for you. I want to completely understand it. On February 07 2018 22:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:19 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 22:16 rsoultin wrote:Pending on you, koshi. It skeeves me out a little that you're focused on lynchbait and right on my alignment where most everyone else is wrong. I know you've picked your scum game up recently. But I can see where you're coming from on your prp lynch and it really comes down to whether or not 1) I agree that all the active people are more likely town or at least have a decent shot at it or 2) that it makes sense for you to think that. Also, could you explain this? I think you said it was about df and why rayn scumreads him, but I'm not following at all: On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. If you cant follow it you are not reading the thread. It is rayn is nr 1 reason to scumread df and he explained it. And I already explained this very post to mocsta as well. And on top of that df answered me already. I cant help blind people in a forum mafia game. This is just pathetic. Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:07 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game. I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read. Regarding mderg, I've made a few posts already about how disconnected he is in the game. It's actually one of the biggest question marks I have on rayn and HF. For so long they railed on me for "not being involved in the game" while seemingly ignoring mderg who has been around to post but hasn't. This reason especially comes off as a bad reason to townread Mocsta. I think you could Town read Mocsta for a few reasons that I could buy as genuine beliefs, but I have not thought to myself, "you know what, Mocsta really knows where he's going this game." It almost feels like a TMI spew town read if mderg flips mafia ^ I thought your post was in response to this post and had no clue as to why it got that reaction from you, even reading the discussion. But I suppose it must have been in response to this one posted just before that? Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:03 darthfoley wrote:
@ritoky
I was angle shooting
Also rayn's big "gotcha" moment doesn't make sense. A scum slip is when people say "I believe am I Town" not "I am Town and I believe your arguments are incorrect." But now were just talking semantics So disregard. Dangers of skimming. On February 07 2018 22:26 Koshi wrote:
I offcially revoke my leaning townread on rsoultin. I dont want to lynch her today. But fuck this thread control type of play that doesnt push the game forward at all. All stupid safe reads and nothing interesting in over 100 posts.
I am not entertained. You may die. On February 07 2018 22:27 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:23 Koshi wrote:
You have to not have read 7-10 posts to not understand the post...
Explain to me in extreme detail why prplhz is town or "ok" for you. I want to completely understand it. There's not much to completely understand. I didn't think there was anything particularly alignment indicative in what he'd posted, which is why I asked you (if I recall correctly) for your read on him. On February 07 2018 22:27 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:26 Koshi wrote:
I offcially revoke my leaning townread on rsoultin. I dont want to lynch her today. But fuck this thread control type of play that doesnt push the game forward at all. All stupid safe reads and nothing interesting in over 100 posts.
I am not entertained. You may die. Cool beans. On February 07 2018 22:28 Koshi wrote:
There are 10 more posts in the thread about that. It has nothing to do with skimming. You are just filling your filter and not solving the game. You cannot miss all the fucking posts about this. On February 07 2018 22:30 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 18:34 Koshi wrote:
imo we always keep rsoultin alive here. It is a normal game so who cares? Kill people who do not play. I like this post and agree with it. On February 07 2018 22:30 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:27 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 22:23 Koshi wrote:
You have to not have read 7-10 posts to not understand the post...
Explain to me in extreme detail why prplhz is town or "ok" for you. I want to completely understand it. There's not much to completely understand. I didn't think there was anything particularly alignment indicative in what he'd posted, which is why I asked you (if I recall correctly) for your read on him. You tr prplhz at some point. Or at least were ok with him. You keep asking me about prplhz and your own read is foggy as fuck. Reread prplhz if needed and explain how you felt about him this entire game. What are you telling me?? You have had no opinion at all on him this entire fucking game? What are you doing????? On February 07 2018 22:30 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:28 Koshi wrote:
There are 10 more posts in the thread about that. It has nothing to do with skimming. You are just filling your filter and not solving the game. You cannot miss all the fucking posts about this. -shrugs- It wasn't obvious to me. So sue me. On February 07 2018 22:31 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:30 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 22:27 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 22:23 Koshi wrote:
You have to not have read 7-10 posts to not understand the post...
Explain to me in extreme detail why prplhz is town or "ok" for you. I want to completely understand it. There's not much to completely understand. I didn't think there was anything particularly alignment indicative in what he'd posted, which is why I asked you (if I recall correctly) for your read on him. You tr prplhz at some point. Or at least were ok with him. You keep asking me about prplhz and your own read is foggy as fuck. Reread prplhz if needed and explain how you felt about him this entire game. What are you telling me?? You have had no opinion at all on him this entire fucking game? What are you doing????? Filter diving. On February 07 2018 22:33 Koshi wrote:
rsoultin is not solving this game. That is for sure. Blah. Last time you were way more obvious mafia.
I remember my banana apple post. On February 07 2018 22:33 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:30 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 22:28 Koshi wrote:
There are 10 more posts in the thread about that. It has nothing to do with skimming. You are just filling your filter and not solving the game. You cannot miss all the fucking posts about this. -shrugs- It wasn't obvious to me. So sue me. Yeah. I am. For negligence. On February 07 2018 22:33 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, you mean the two posts that he'd posted at the time? I still don't think they say much about his alignment, despite your claim that he was nitpicking truffle. Nor do the name questions or saying that you like to be right do anything for me. He's null. On February 07 2018 22:33 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:28 Koshi wrote:
There are 10 more posts in the thread about that. It has nothing to do with skimming. You are just filling your filter and not solving the game. You cannot miss all the fucking posts about this. Sigh. I agree. Really stuck on where to vote before i go to bed I was willing to give rsoultin a chance but now she is just wasting it on filter commentary. Mderg list post feels disconnected which he even comments on. Im happy with a vote on rsoultin mderg or damdred I think its good there 4 or 5 people with votes. Tug of war that is split this hard means at least one wagon is mafia in my opinion. Im going to read mderg and tina past game now to finalise vote On February 07 2018 22:34 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.
This is nitpicking. And that is all it is. I will agree with this. That was not a good post at all from mderg. On February 07 2018 22:35 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:30 prplhz wrote:On February 07 2018 18:34 Koshi wrote:
imo we always keep rsoultin alive here. It is a normal game so who cares? Kill people who do not play. I like this post and agree with it. u syill toen read rsoultin? On February 07 2018 22:35 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:33 Koshi wrote:
rsoultin is not solving this game. That is for sure. Blah. Last time you were way more obvious mafia.
I remember my banana apple post. o.0 I vaguely but don't really remember this. On February 07 2018 22:37 Damdred wrote:
I almost feel human, I have a doctors appointment in 40 minutes. After that I shouos be here.
As for my vote im just going to sheep my top towns (rayn) when i get back. On February 07 2018 22:37 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:33 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 22:28 Koshi wrote:
There are 10 more posts in the thread about that. It has nothing to do with skimming. You are just filling your filter and not solving the game. You cannot miss all the fucking posts about this. Sigh. I agree. Really stuck on where to vote before i go to bed I was willing to give rsoultin a chance but now she is just wasting it on filter commentary. Mderg list post feels disconnected which he even comments on. Im happy with a vote on rsoultin mderg or damdred I think its good there 4 or 5 people with votes. Tug of war that is split this hard means at least one wagon is mafia in my opinion. Im going to read mderg and tina past game now to finalise vote Rsoultin mderg and prplhz are good places to plant a vote. We will probably lynch the townie out of the 3 on d1 but removing that person is fine anyway. Damdred is maybe not mafia. Some shady people are too outspoken on him. On February 07 2018 22:37 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.
This is nitpicking. And that is all it is. Are you saying I have 10 mafia suspects? On February 07 2018 22:38 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:34 Conversion wrote:On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.
This is nitpicking. And that is all it is. I will agree with this. That was not a good post at all from mderg. Im lazy and this is good enough for me to go to bed on I also realised tina may feel pressures to magically generate reada before lynch. Magically because when ppl tunnel yoy. You foxus on them and it can be hard to have reads worth sharing. I am willing to give tina another day. Good night. My vote stays with mderg On February 07 2018 22:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:37 mderg wrote:On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.
This is nitpicking. And that is all it is. Are you saying I have 10 mafia suspects? Yes. That is what it says. You are nitpicking filters and not trying to find the alignment behind the filters. I dont know why you are nitpicking the filters. But I am sure that you are doing just that. This game is about finding 3 mafia out of 12 players. You are looking for the 3 and not for the 9. Why are you not looking for the 9? On February 07 2018 22:42 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:41 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 22:37 mderg wrote:On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.
This is nitpicking. And that is all it is. Are you saying I have 10 mafia suspects? Yes. That is what it says. You are nitpicking filters and not trying to find the alignment behind the filters. I dont know why you are nitpicking the filters. But I am sure that you are doing just that. This game is about finding 3 mafia out of 12 players. You are looking for the 3 and not for the 9. Why are you not looking for the 9? Are you fuckng serious? On February 07 2018 22:44 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:42 mderg wrote:On February 07 2018 22:41 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 22:37 mderg wrote:On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.
This is nitpicking. And that is all it is. Are you saying I have 10 mafia suspects? Yes. That is what it says. You are nitpicking filters and not trying to find the alignment behind the filters. I dont know why you are nitpicking the filters. But I am sure that you are doing just that. This game is about finding 3 mafia out of 12 players. You are looking for the 3 and not for the 9. Why are you not looking for the 9? Are you fuckng serious? This is serious fucking business. On February 07 2018 22:44 Trfel wrote:I am here, skimmed the last 10 pages. I'll try and reread stuff during class. Koshi's actually playing the game, which is great, but makes me less inclined to lynch him. Been avoiding thinking about darthfoley. Feel so lost I'll try and figure out what's going on but if someone wants to talk about something let me know. On February 07 2018 22:45 Damdred wrote:
Mderg pretend I havent read the game to a deep level,. If what Koshi says isnt true can you give me your sxum reada with a condensed reason for each? On February 07 2018 22:49 rsoultin wrote:
There are glimmers of something in mderg's filter until the list post, which is mostly nulullllullululull.
I was gonna bother but you know what?
Truffle felt town to me most of the game until the reversal on Conversion's case. It's not even that Conversion's case was bad, because it wasn't; it's that it touched on the sort of intangibles that the Truffle of years ago didn't tend to find compelling. I think he's still town but don't give him a free pass.
Holyflare is whatever the fuck. I can never tell even when I care.
And I'm sure you all will blame me when you inevitably lynch me tonight after I bugger off for the rest of the day, but personally I only hold myself responsible for the beginning of the day when I was being a bit of a snit. At some point this game just isn't worth it anymore.
Voting mderg.
Don't want to vote DF without talking to ritoky about his read first. On February 07 2018 23:04 Damdred wrote:
Mderg peaced out when I asked him things idk what to think I guess ill have to look at his list when i read heh. On February 07 2018 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
I don't particularly understand but we vote martyrs in this here town. On February 07 2018 23:05 Damdred wrote:
Tinnnnaaa On February 07 2018 23:12 rsoultin wrote:Sorry if you're town, Ian. I'm just done. Calling me scum and shooting me multiple exclamation point question mark shouty posts is one thing. Claiming I'm just filling my filter when I'm trying to leave a post flip legacy is another. Well, it's there. I'm done. I don't know if I'm right or not but whatever.
hmmm... so after pg 30
votes are 4-4 between rs and mderg.
after what there were 5 pages without new votes.
koshi moves to mderg making it 5-4
and after that not much changes.
prpl votes trfel
rs and mderg unvote each other.
hf votes mderg
damdy votes rs
i still feel that at this 4-4 stage were a lot of ppl were uncertain and/or had good reasons to got for either... nobody moved.
like conv, df, mocsta, rayn all where in thread, but none of them moved.
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nah is fine. is super interesting game.
also noted that on pages like 30-35 there was some talk about df. think rayn had him as his #2 scumread. could be him trying to steer the lynch but running out of time? not sure. could see him just bus, if he is running out of time to play.
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though... switching to mderg might have been super weird for rayn
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dunno. kinda feel like scum either had like a miscommunication, did something real stupid, or did something real clever.
or rather: i feel like i am missing something about that eod1 that prevents me from realizing what was going on.
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On February 09 2018 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:There are a few reasons i think damdred is town. He chose a route i wouldn't expect him to choose as mafia early on in the game (calling rsoultin and ritoky mafia). He chose a route i wouldn't expect him to choose at the start of N1. He is basically not taking any of the outs being offered i think he could easily see 100 miles away as scum. He chose to vote rsoultin over mderg (only a minor point but anyways). He got all emo over something that wasn't really justified but it looks like he genuinely doesn't understand what people were trying to say and he genuinely thinks he has been ignored or misunderstood. In all i think Damdred's play makes absolutely no sense as mafia. I think Mocsta is completely misconstruing what Damdred's actions and when trying to elaborate more onto that he cannot give a reasonable answer. He just picked a post that looks bad and made it look like it's a mafia post for some invented reason.I don't really think Conversion is mafia. He just feels like a person who has absolutely no idea what he should do. Just because i have more scumreads and he doesn't fit anywhere. purplehaze is the least town of my townreads, just because after a bit townie D1 he has gone back to only commenting on "good post", "funny post", "this" and nothing more. I don't think df is mafia for his eod1. I think this summarized it quite well: Show nested quote +It was extremely reminiscent of what he did against hf. He took a small thing and turned it into a larger thing and diverted the thread from discussinf the lynch into who cased tina first. It was pointless did not help town.
like lets assume that tina is town, df auccessfully pushed hf (maybe) to not vote town tina instead hf goes onto his scum partnwr mderg when the other people on mdeeg are afk. Like, this looks like a mafia thing to do for sure but if you account the situation it doesn't make any sense as mafia to do that. If df is mafia then the plan was not to bus (because he could have just voted for mderg if the plan was to bus), instead he chose not to bus but then do stuff that has a low chance of helping lynch town instead of mafia. Makes no sense. Obviously this doesn't matter if rsoultin is mafia but i have already said why that one doesn't work either on df being scum. df also has the "i am choosing a route that is very unlikely to work" thing after D1 in case he is mafia. I made a post on disformation here, it doesn't make sense, he couldn't give anywhere reasonable answer. Obviously noone in teh fucking game cares. Why do i even try? It is especially funny for Koshi who thinks i should be doing something and when i do something obviously that gets ignored. But it doesn't matter Koshi, i will just do what i do, then you start calling me obvious scum at some point, then i call you bad, then you lynch me, then i call you bad again. I think you're lynching town rn, and i know how Damdred feels. ftr the one i am not calling mafia today has a veeeery weird reaction to Damdred's emo burst. I think it's a bad reaction from someone who is supposed to know Damdred better.
rayn can you show/quote me an example of the highlighted?
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hmm... when prpl voted it was 5-4
with 2 novotes...
his filter also was very minimalistic. think he had a town read on rs, but he could have easily bussed mderg. though that might have looked suspicious in a "who did hop on for easy cred" kinda way.
not impossible for him to do that as a "fuck your vca" vote kinda thing...
but i also dont think it is like super likely he does that. his posting style also doesnt look very scummy to me. think there was someone else who had a similar style as town.
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On February 10 2018 00:33 Mocsta wrote:
Hes refereing to my take on damdred list post.
Reasonable is subjective
Im not sure how yoy have missed this since rayn shit up an entire page about it
ah. the part where you go "damdy stole all his reads". k.
On February 10 2018 00:36 Mocsta wrote:
Disinfo
Did rsoultin progression from mderg to prplhz feel natural?
Like... she votes prplhz after a few ppl expressed interest.
But a free pages before that..IIRC she is saying mderg is lynchworthy.
Is there anything indicating thag read dropping to null and then mdeef = town???
lemme look at her filter again
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On February 10 2018 00:36 Mocsta wrote:
Disinfo
Did rsoultin progression from mderg to prplhz feel natural?
Like... she votes prplhz after a few ppl expressed interest.
But a free pages before that..IIRC she is saying mderg is lynchworthy.
Is there anything indicating thag read dropping to null and then mdeef = town???
rs mderg progression:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 06 2018 18:48 rsoultin wrote:
I think I want to lynch into conv/rit/mderg today.
Not sure on mocsta...it's hard to tell with someone tunneled on you.
Rayn and truffle are town.
DF...I'm not sure. I see the issue truffle has with him, and it's part of why I'm reading truffle town, but I still think that tonally DF is kinda towny. Relaxed. Also, it doesn't really look like last game where he was scum.
What bugs me about ritoky most is he seems to have a decently strong reason to scumread conversion but isn't pursuing it. If conv ends up being scum, he probably is, too. Actually, he's probably scum anyway. I really don't get the focus on koshi over people who are actually scummy to him. On February 07 2018 21:58 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley
the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable. I'm not a big fan of Joni's townread on mderg or the fact that he was (is?) scumreading ritoky for the same reason that I was, but honestly this post probably makes him town. That and I'm generally not getting the 'scream until my target is lynched' vibe that I normally get from a scum Joni - he's still pushing, but taking the time to prod. Caveat here is he knows how I read him and has catered to that before. Caveat to the caveat is if he were scum here he could push me until the cows come home with no one listening to my trying to say he's scum for not involving people, and no one else seems to have that read nailed down on him. So. Still pretty sure he's town. Just being Joni. On February 07 2018 22:49 rsoultin wrote:
There are glimmers of something in mderg's filter until the list post, which is mostly nulullllullululull.
I was gonna bother but you know what?
Truffle felt town to me most of the game until the reversal on Conversion's case. It's not even that Conversion's case was bad, because it wasn't; it's that it touched on the sort of intangibles that the Truffle of years ago didn't tend to find compelling. I think he's still town but don't give him a free pass.
Holyflare is whatever the fuck. I can never tell even when I care.
And I'm sure you all will blame me when you inevitably lynch me tonight after I bugger off for the rest of the day, but personally I only hold myself responsible for the beginning of the day when I was being a bit of a snit. At some point this game just isn't worth it anymore.
Voting mderg.
Don't want to vote DF without talking to ritoky about his read first. On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not. On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum is this list post from Newbie. Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people. Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then. Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can. Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do. On February 08 2018 03:12 rsoultin wrote:These are the only kinda sparkly things that I think could indicate a town mderg. Particularly the second, because it was where my mind was at regarding mocsta and his play from Newbie before he started diverting onto other things. Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 20:07 mderg wrote:On February 06 2018 11:48 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 11:39 Trfel wrote:
Hi. Darthfoley, what was about Mocsta's posts about going to bed that got to you so much? Doesn't have to be a long answer, I know you said they felt awkward but I'm not really seeing what you are at present.
I'll read Mocsta's case soon. Basically if I were super tired and woke up to post, I would probably not make the second post with typos about going back to bed. For me, I would just be exhausted and fall asleep. The second post sounded like one of those "update on activity" posts mafia sometimes feel like they have to make That doesn't look like great reasoning to me Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game. On February 08 2018 04:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:37 mderg wrote:On February 08 2018 04:29 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 04:28 mderg wrote:
I think my rsoultin scumread may actually be stupid here. That's unfortunate for you given I'm the main counterwagon. Who would you even want to lynch then? I think I might want to lynch darthfoley Meh fuck it. Not lynching you. I really don't think I want to lynch DF either, though. On February 08 2018 04:42 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:41 Conversion wrote:On February 08 2018 04:36 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 04:34 Conversion wrote:On February 08 2018 04:30 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:I am back. Meeting ran over, typical. On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not. On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum is this list post from Newbie. Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people. Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then. Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can. Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do. I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing. I don't oppose a prp lynch? I just think it's a coinflip. Hmm. My diffident nature is showing as deadline is creeping upon me.. On one hand I really dislike mderg's filter, but I am not seeing too much of a difference between here and Newbie. I have not played Newbie, though, so maybe I would have seen it differently had I been in it. On the other hand, I really disliked the majority of your Day1, and I am not sure if the recovery was enough to sway my decision... Ugh. -squints at- That just sounds like you should be voting me. I don't see what the waffle is about. You can look into my meta (past all the unfun, toxic, ragey bullshit) and you will see that by nature I am waffley. But you are right, I will remain steadfast in voting you and just have more confidence in my conclusion. Lol I'm doing wonders for myself this game, aren't I? Mderg's probably not scum though so there's that. On February 08 2018 04:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
I don't care if mderg is town and getting lynched though. He's pulling off his only chance for survival. No way he does that as scum.
rs prpl progression:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 07 2018 00:42 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 00:07 Koshi wrote:
I think I will also call rsoultin leaning town. And that I will vote mderg.
mderg, prplhz and the 2 afks might contain 2 mafia. Let's hope the third does better.
##vote mdreg I'm kinda okay with prp though. Why him? On February 07 2018 22:27 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:23 Koshi wrote:
You have to not have read 7-10 posts to not understand the post...
Explain to me in extreme detail why prplhz is town or "ok" for you. I want to completely understand it. There's not much to completely understand. I didn't think there was anything particularly alignment indicative in what he'd posted, which is why I asked you (if I recall correctly) for your read on him. On February 08 2018 04:30 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:I am back. Meeting ran over, typical. On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not. On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum is this list post from Newbie. Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people. Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then. Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can. Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do. I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing. I don't oppose a prp lynch? I just think it's a coinflip. On February 08 2018 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
I don't have a better vote than prplhz, and I'm not convinced on that either.
But I don't want to lynch mderg and I want to discuss darth foley with ritoky so yolo \o/ On February 08 2018 04:55 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:53 darthfoley wrote:
If prplhz is mafia then he has big boy balls. I would be surprised. He's had a couple out of the box reads (namely scum!Trfel) that I don't think a low activity mafia would care to make. Well I hardly know who else I'd even try to consolidate on unless it's you, which is still not something I want to do ><
rs darth progression:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 06 2018 18:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 12:10 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 12:06 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 11:59 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 11:52 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 11:48 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 11:39 Trfel wrote:
Hi. Darthfoley, what was about Mocsta's posts about going to bed that got to you so much? Doesn't have to be a long answer, I know you said they felt awkward but I'm not really seeing what you are at present.
I'll read Mocsta's case soon. Basically if I were super tired and woke up to post, I would probably not make the second post with typos about going back to bed. For me, I would just be exhausted and fall asleep. The second post sounded like one of those "update on activity" posts mafia sometimes feel like they have to make This is peculiar reasoning as there are many reasons to explain what you observe. Im not sure why you are default latching onto worst-case option, in addition to not reading my content in detail. Again.. why do you keep bringing up my previous game. What is actually similar to you? You have slung shit, and now I would like you to back up the assertion. Worst case scenario? Trfel asked me a question and I answered it briefly. I haven't slung shit. I said you're reminding me of your recent scum game. I have stated why: your posts that are more than one paragraph are nitpicky and long winded for no reasons. Especially ironic considering you called Conversion nitpicky. This is why I asked if this is how you play town. I simply dont agree, but reviewing my game is something anyone can do if they are actually concerned about my alignment. Im disappointed with you Darth. I'll get to it eventually dad. I can take you being mad st me, but not being disappointed in me It's stupid, but I kind of like this post for tone. On February 07 2018 19:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 18:55 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually no i dnot care about anything other than this.
Who were you fiter diving Tina? which ppl and why? I'm literally just going down the player list, rayn. Looking at DF right now, but I think I need to read the truffle comments on him because I don't remember them well and it's a big point in his filter.Not that that really matters. I think that I was having trouble seeing the forest for the trees because I was too focused on myself this game, which is my bad. It's not the first time that's happened, but I understand why people don't remember what I'm like when being scumread; it's been years. So I'm trying to go back through more objectively. For what that's worth. No, it was you Rayn, not truffle. Misread that because he was talking all about truffle before. Some individual posts from darth foley still tonally resonate with me as being pretty fuck the world I'm gonna do what I want, but his filter in general actually reads more angry and defensive than I remember. I also don't like how he's mostly just scumreading people who are scumreading him after the initial scumreads on both myself and mocsta. To be fair, I actually think the original scumreads on mocsta and myself are okay given his last game and the buss that went on there. But scumreading whoever scumreads him (truffle, rayn) was exactly what he did as scum in Newbie. On February 07 2018 19:11 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
darthfoley is mafia nad i encourage everyone to vote for him.
please. Could do, but I'm still digging. On February 07 2018 21:41 rsoultin wrote:I'm tempted to sit on you because of ritoky. Your reads still seem to change based on others' reads on you, though. Or at least on people scumreading you. That resembles your scum play to me. If you have town games that show you kinda OMGUS your way through games, could you link one of them, please? I'll follow up eventually if I don't get lynched today, but my bruised ego would prefer a tidy collection of correct reads to leave town with, and I doubt I'll have the time before deadline to pursue that avenue. On February 07 2018 22:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:19 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 22:16 rsoultin wrote:Pending on you, koshi. It skeeves me out a little that you're focused on lynchbait and right on my alignment where most everyone else is wrong. I know you've picked your scum game up recently. But I can see where you're coming from on your prp lynch and it really comes down to whether or not 1) I agree that all the active people are more likely town or at least have a decent shot at it or 2) that it makes sense for you to think that. Also, could you explain this? I think you said it was about df and why rayn scumreads him, but I'm not following at all: On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. If you cant follow it you are not reading the thread. It is rayn is nr 1 reason to scumread df and he explained it. And I already explained this very post to mocsta as well. And on top of that df answered me already. I cant help blind people in a forum mafia game. This is just pathetic. Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:07 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game. I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read. Regarding mderg, I've made a few posts already about how disconnected he is in the game. It's actually one of the biggest question marks I have on rayn and HF. For so long they railed on me for "not being involved in the game" while seemingly ignoring mderg who has been around to post but hasn't. This reason especially comes off as a bad reason to townread Mocsta. I think you could Town read Mocsta for a few reasons that I could buy as genuine beliefs, but I have not thought to myself, "you know what, Mocsta really knows where he's going this game." It almost feels like a TMI spew town read if mderg flips mafia ^ I thought your post was in response to this post and had no clue as to why it got that reaction from you, even reading the discussion. But I suppose it must have been in response to this one posted just before that? Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:03 darthfoley wrote:
@ritoky
I was angle shooting
Also rayn's big "gotcha" moment doesn't make sense. A scum slip is when people say "I believe am I Town" not "I am Town and I believe your arguments are incorrect." But now were just talking semantics So disregard. Dangers of skimming. On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not. On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum is this list post from Newbie. Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people. Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then. Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can. Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do. On February 08 2018 03:33 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 03:29 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 03:25 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 03:22 Koshi wrote:
HF mafia who lets rayn do the driving D1. Seems plausible. This I could definitely see. mderg is more likely mafia. I have no intention of lynching (or probably more accurately trying to lynch) holyflare today, so no worries. Last game proved to me in spades that him taking a back seat and being wrong do not necessarily make him scum. It just would be a convenient thing for a scum Holyflare to do if Joni's intent on lynching town. Thought filed away for later. I'm not really convinced that darth foley is town. On February 08 2018 04:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:37 mderg wrote:On February 08 2018 04:29 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 04:28 mderg wrote:
I think my rsoultin scumread may actually be stupid here. That's unfortunate for you given I'm the main counterwagon. Who would you even want to lynch then? I think I might want to lynch darthfoley Meh fuck it. Not lynching you. I really don't think I want to lynch DF either, though. On February 08 2018 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
I don't have a better vote than prplhz, and I'm not convinced on that either.
But I don't want to lynch mderg and I want to discuss darth foley with ritoky so yolo \o/
her mderg read makes a huge flip as mderg unvotes her. could have been the plan/idea of mderg. as you know, mafia is unlikely to not vote the opposing wagon if it is close. so i can see that coming from town.
her prpl stuff is a tad awkward in the form of that okay = nullish kinda thing, but kinda makes sense i guess? not sure why she is ignoring his vote though. which is why most ppl tr him for.
the df one is weird though. has him as pretty hard scum. backs off cause she misunderstood something (that can happen). then its this "i am not convinced he is town" and "i really do want to talk to ritoky about df". mh. obv she still hasnt talked to rito about df, but both are fairly afkish.
but yeah in general i can see town be like "oh fuck that mderg dude is town for unvoting his counterwagon, id rather vote for someone who is more likely scum. a coinflip is at least 50-50.
i still dont get really what the plan is here if both are scum.
they create a situation were both are not voting for survival. maybe that gets some ppl on prpl. maybe they ml prpl. dont they still both look like crap from that? mh gives them one more night with their roles. in a situation were it is really rs rb and mderg framer. *sigh*
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dunno maybe im just drowing in the wifmo
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On February 10 2018 01:31 darthfoley wrote:
Still contend rsoultin is a reasonable lynch today
still cause meta / this thing:
On February 08 2018 04:32 darthfoley wrote:
I think rsoultin has put in a lot of effort but I think it's kinda NAI. Last game she ran shit and let people know what they were doing based off of her.
This game she is letting her play be attached to other variables too much for my liking. (e.g. not being down to lynch me based off of ritoky's read on me. I think i've played with ritoky like once or twice.)
For my science nerds out there: last game rsoultin's play was the independent variable; this game it feels like the dependent variable.
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mh... did a super fast fly through of damdy's filter in the nsm just now.
very different.
dinner and then ill be a lazy ass for the rest of the evening. should have plenty of time tomorrow.
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though in all fairness that might have been due to damdy being sick.
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y u no listen to manager?
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i actually like the stuff on mocsta by both ppl with r.
On February 10 2018 09:05 ritoky wrote:
does new damdred quit/martyr as mafia or ever? cuz old damdred was extra tryhard when he had teammates.
in the game he was lynched d1 like last week he kinda was trying harder and putting our like reeds and a last will etc. despite the reason for his lynch being super dumb. was town.
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On February 10 2018 09:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2018 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
How do you know martyring isn't try harding? Last game people were saying he doesn't give up like that as mafia so maybe as mafia in the next game he could use it to his advantage?
Who knows really, I just don't think he really plays like he is as town. I am not sure if you read the obs QT and his posts there, but that and two games in a row getting lynched for something that he feels like is stupid and noone listening to him i can easily see him doing that as town -- not really as mafia.
mh. what exactly do you mean with the obs qt? didnt look at those before, but he seems fairly chill. had some good posts in there. even says that he should stop posting good stuff in the qt, or ppl will expect him to do that in a game.
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hmm... actually unvoting. want to sleep on it.
not entirely sure what the best lynch (aka highest scum chance) is.
as i outlined i can see rs d1 come from a town pov, but agree that since then nothing happened. maybe ill see what she does tomorrow. need to think a bit more about rayn's plan.
damdy is like still real weird and it kinda annoys me that eh keeps martyring. but tbh i would be super damn sad if we'd lynched him and he flips town.
mocsta im a bit paranoid about. kinda reminds me of my scum style. lots of efffort/words not much content. not that would be too much different from my town style either. but i dont think he would be the best lynch.
conv did okay n1, fallen off since then.
prpl less 'fallen off' as his style was minimalistic before, but kinda not existent so far d2. xD
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On February 10 2018 09:27 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2018 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
But how does damdred go from "Mderg isn't mafia now because of that vote that wouldn't save him" to voting rsoultin when she was doing the same god damn thing? i agree, this is a good point. it is inconsistent, and he should apply it both ways if it was true. but also where is damdred's anime friend building arc this game if he is mafia? he always used to be a friend builder as mafia. idk i think the case against damdred is deece+, i just kinda....eh....yknow?
hmm... there was this one instance with me just when i replaced in.
On February 08 2018 06:07 Damdred wrote:
Rayn and I have a connwvtion thatvis deep every game. We agree while not talking *fist bump*.
Disformation roll a d20 and tell me what your read on conversion is your last post was a waffle.
On February 08 2018 06:12 Damdred wrote:
gut read disf coming in cold and spitting fire with reads makes me think town.
On February 08 2018 06:18 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 06:14 disformation wrote:On February 08 2018 06:07 Damdred wrote:
Rayn and I have a connwvtion thatvis deep every game. We agree while not talking *fist bump*.
Disformation roll a d20 and tell me what your read on conversion is your last post was a waffle. got a 14. apparently that says: not slam dunk scum, meaning i will not vig shot shot him tonight or tunnel him till one of dies, but i think might be scum and I would not be averse to voting him. you quirky little devil
does that count/fit your meaning?
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On February 10 2018 09:30 ritoky wrote:
so you have no consequential thoughts then disf? thanx
u are welcome
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On February 10 2018 09:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2018 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 10 2018 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
But how does damdred go from "Mderg isn't mafia now because of that vote that wouldn't save him" to voting rsoultin when she was doing the same god damn thing? idk what you mean, can you elaborate more? Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg
The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.
Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:42 Damdred wrote:
Interesting both tina and mderg are kinda trying to suicide...hmmm Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:52 Damdred wrote:
Heres the problem hf/df i do not thinl at this time tina is getting lynched unless hf switches and i hammer.
But we do need to consolidate at this time. For thw record tinas postings havent been bad since i got back Damdred has mocsta/prplhz/mderg in a scum list. Just before the lynch he's praising rsoultin about looking more towny. Then he exclaims BOTH rsoultin and mderg are doing a suicide play. For some reason he attributes this to a town mderg but neglects to say it makes rsoultin town. Why? It's incredibly unexplained. If both of these people are doing the same thing and rsoultin is already a town read and mderg is a scum read why pick to save mderg over rsoul? There's no discernable reason... Other than mderg has flipped mafia.
was thinking about that earlier. only difference i found was that mderg did it first. maybe that resonated stronger? but we will probably never find out since damdy didnt explain at the time.
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mh yeah dunno. dont see myself voting outside of damdy/rsoultin this phase.
rs lynch smells a bit like lynching for info though... idk
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On February 10 2018 09:40 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2018 09:37 disformation wrote:On February 10 2018 09:26 Holyflare wrote:On February 10 2018 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 10 2018 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
But how does damdred go from "Mderg isn't mafia now because of that vote that wouldn't save him" to voting rsoultin when she was doing the same god damn thing? idk what you mean, can you elaborate more? On February 08 2018 04:25 Damdred wrote:
I could probably lynch Mocsta/prp/ maybe mderg
The more I communicate with you tina the mbre i think you might be town. Mderg is a maybe he has some thinfs that look the same from last game but his scum reads are sort of meh so far.
Its difficult and im atill forming opinions atm On February 08 2018 04:42 Damdred wrote:
Interesting both tina and mderg are kinda trying to suicide...hmmm On February 08 2018 04:52 Damdred wrote:
Heres the problem hf/df i do not thinl at this time tina is getting lynched unless hf switches and i hammer.
But we do need to consolidate at this time. For thw record tinas postings havent been bad since i got back Damdred has mocsta/prplhz/mderg in a scum list. Just before the lynch he's praising rsoultin about looking more towny. Then he exclaims BOTH rsoultin and mderg are doing a suicide play. For some reason he attributes this to a town mderg but neglects to say it makes rsoultin town. Why? It's incredibly unexplained. If both of these people are doing the same thing and rsoultin is already a town read and mderg is a scum read why pick to save mderg over rsoul? There's no discernable reason... Other than mderg has flipped mafia. was thinking about that earlier. only difference i found was that mderg did it first. maybe that resonated stronger? but we will probably never find out since damdy didnt explain at the time. Rsoul unvoted mderg first.
oh wow thanks for clarification. for me it seemed from that quote that mderg unvoted first.
On February 08 2018 04:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:37 mderg wrote:On February 08 2018 04:29 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 04:28 mderg wrote:
I think my rsoultin scumread may actually be stupid here. That's unfortunate for you given I'm the main counterwagon. Who would you even want to lynch then? I think I might want to lynch darthfoley Meh fuck it. Not lynching you. I really don't think I want to lynch DF either, though.
well I guess he said that his rs scumread is stupid. rs unvoted and then mderg unvoted?
so maybe damdy thought i makes even less sense as scum to move here?
like he had gotten rs off him and could have stayed and be like "well sry i know my alignment (town) ofc im voting for self preservation"... or something?
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On February 10 2018 09:41 ritoky wrote:
not lynching outside of damdy/rsoul seems like strong words. conv and prp not exactly been inspiring confidence...and they off your table.....thats a thonker.
zzzz
-.-
i should stop posting when im tired.
sure. if rs and damdy both do a town rainbow butterfly thing or someone does something super scummy that is subject to change.
ffs i even just posted that i am not a fan of either conv nor prpl.
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mh probably should have used "as of now" or id prefer those two or something. dunno. bed time.
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On February 10 2018 09:46 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 20:56 Conversion wrote:
Why did Mocsta just post a PM? Fake or not. Wasn’t that against the rules? Weird play.. This is super scum?
dunno. im starring at this and am like... is it?
explain it as if what little brain i have had left my skull and is oozing out of my ear.
will read tomorrow
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hmmmm...
yeah, sheeping hf, koshi and ritoky sounds like a super good plan.
if rayn isn't cop with a green on damdy that is.
On February 10 2018 10:04 Conversion wrote:
I am sheeping. Rayn wins my vote. Literally took a 7 hour trip home and woke up from a nap.
If prplhz is town I am bad. I cannot see how people townread his filter, but eh.
Voting rsoultin and falling back asleep. I like rayn’s plan bc I don’t have to think and people can just lynch me in the progress
well prpl has this "nah I don't care what any of you guys think, I ll put the little time I have into finding/voting who I think is scum and don't care how that makes me look" vibe. not easy to give this little amount of fucks as scum.
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actually fairly annoying that both damdy/rs kinda gtfo'ed without giving much in the way of reeds.
prolly should take a look at df again
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On February 09 2018 18:03 Koshi wrote:
Like he doesnt understand something that is very easy to find 5 million reasons for to understand.
But that is even besides the point. DF doesnt open a door that it could be something like bad play or w.e the fuck.
DF also completely ignores the fact rsoultin is maybe mafia. He tr Damdred based on an unflipped player her alignment. And he himself voted rsoultin. I forgot how hard he tr her now.
DF also doesnt want to figure out this little riddle why Damdred did what he did. He just doesnt get it and closes his mind off to a solution.
And the worst thing. That post is not succint at all. I can say all that in 1 sentence. "Damdred play was not optimal if he is mafia with mderg, it was better to hammer mderg"
There is sooooooo much more wrong with that post but I am not typing more on mobile.
want to type more now? ^^
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On February 10 2018 23:34 darthfoley wrote:
Koshi is wrong about me. His point about me forgetting rsoultin could be mafia is just Donald trump levels Wrong! "I forgot how hard he tr her" ?????? Please quote me that because I'm pretty sure it never happened
He's also now using this "his post style is not succinct" argument which he hasn't used against anyone else in the game.
Hopefully this doesn't make him mafia, it just makes him stupid.
Disformation reminds me of Mocsta last game but with better posts. I haven't read his filter carefully but he could be mafia.
I'm fine with rsoultin/Damdred being the lynch but I'm voting rsoultin because she is still complaining about things that just aren't true (e.g. Town is being lazy today ?????). I have not gotten any vibes that she is trying to solve game. Plus she unvoted mderg first and that whole EoD. If damdred dies, that's fine too.
##vote: rsoultin
hm first point actually appears to be true.
better posts? me?
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so we have 4-2 rs - damdy now
3 ppl of those wagons
2 no voters (1 me)
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well. that makes it 5-2.
so if I remember correctly you had df as town now.
so aside from rs who do you think is scum?
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did take a short look at mocsta again. came back feeling town.
conv is kinda puzzling me in his super defeated tone:
On February 10 2018 10:04 Conversion wrote:
I am sheeping. Rayn wins my vote. Literally took a 7 hour trip home and woke up from a nap.
If prplhz is town I am bad. I cannot see how people townread his filter, but eh.
Voting rsoultin and falling back asleep. I like rayn’s plan bc I don’t have to think and people can just lynch me in the progress
don't understand why he still has this tone even though he is at least not horrible in most ppls eyes...
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yup was:
On February 08 2018 03:01 Skynx wrote:Day One Vote Count mderg (5):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin, trfel, Koshi rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet Koshi (1): Holyflare, Trfelprplhz (0):: KoshiConversion (0): rsoultinHolyflare (0): mdergritoky (0): rsoultindarthfoley (0): raynpelikoneetNot Voting (3): Damdred, Rels, prplhz rsoultin is currently the designated lynch.
The deadline is Wednesday, Feb 07 8:00pm +00 (GMT+00:00), which is in 0m 0s.
mderg leads 5-4
rs unvotes. 4-4 with mderg still the lynch, right?
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On February 11 2018 01:29 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think rsoultin is mafia purely based on mderg's multiple interactions with her. Seems like 50% of his filter is arguing with her.
hmm... I think ive seen rs argue with scum partners to clog up the thread before, but I'm not sure if that is mderg's style. from what I remember he is more like a minimal effort kinda guy and my personal experience with rs is limited.
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aight.
meh. like rayn's plan is not bad. I just don't like the side dish of lynching rs regardless of her alignment. not saying that shes super town, just think some of her d1 stuff feels like town to me. though on the other hand I kinda am annoyed that she gtfo'ed like this.
damdy is also still not doing town rainbow butterflies.
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day is also super slow/silent.
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wish rayn was here to confirm/deny the cop thing.
otherwise I would be more confident to just sheep ritoky, you and prolly koshi on damdy
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outside of that I'm not even sure why I am so hesitant on the damdy thing. just have bad feels bout that
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so my problem is not that I hate both wagons. I just have a slightly bad feeling and cant decide which one gives me less bad feelings. and I did look at a bunch of other ppl, but I didn't find anyone to be scummy enough to be lynched over rs or damdy.
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mh. I think ill go with damdy. imo less chance of town than rs and ill be voting with 2/3 of my strong trs.
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mh hf what u think of df?
looking back again a bit. while one of koshi's wasn't true, df is fairly locked in on rs all game and doesn't look into damdy too much. tbh his stuff at least after the start of n1 doesn't look too game solvy... though I am prolly not allowed to complain about that.
mhhhh... nah still don't think I want to vote him over damdy/rs...
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am kinda at:
town:
rito
hf
koshi
prolly town:
mocsta
rayn
its complicated:
conv
prpl
df
there are very good reasons for them not to be town:
damdy
rs
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aight will try to shut up and not clutter up the thread. will be around f5ing.
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yeah prplhz came in saw that the wagons are not to his liking. made his own wagon with blackjack and hookers and gtfoed. imo he didn't even stay to see what happens.
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On February 11 2018 04:01 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 05:13 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn/Damdred don't look very good tbh.
Rayn committed to df/rsoultin only when it's very close
Damdred votes rsoultin last minute when it's very close Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 13:02 darthfoley wrote:i'm just gonna say mafia is something like rayn/rsoultin rayn/rels slot rayn/conversion idk. rayn is back to looking bad now + Show Spoiler +in b4 he posts an essay about how bad we are for scum reading him Absolutely nothing changed between these two things so why did damdred drop out of your scum reads?
saw that one earlier as well.
he mentions:
On February 08 2018 05:28 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 05:25 Damdred wrote:On February 08 2018 05:22 darthfoley wrote:On February 08 2018 05:18 Damdred wrote:On February 08 2018 05:13 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn/Damdred don't look very good tbh.
Rayn committed to df/rsoultin only when it's very close
Damdred votes rsoultin last minute when it's very close this is literally misrepresentation. I voted rsoultin with a few se onds to go and the vote was 5-3 with no movement... thats not close when rsoultim would need three votes. I thought it was 4v3 and HF voted after you made it 4v4. Hadn't checked tbf. Interesting nope it was impossible for anyone else besides mderg. What do you make of that? You don't look nearly as bad as I thought but I'm still not sure why you decided to vote for rsoultin. Maybe i'm missing something. Perhaps there was a bus that occurred, but it feels like it would've been so much easier to just kill rsoultin. That's what makes me think rsoultin could just be RB. Either way I think a vigi shot into rsoultin, if possible, would give a lot of info.
I assumed the bolded is why.
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though... I guess an explanation for the bolded would be nice.
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very first thoughts: "well if you are town you are not really helping..."
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the smiley kinda throws me off.
Like I can see stuff like "at least lynch scum rayn next day!" coming from town.
but this "enjoy lynching town smiley" is super fucking spiteful
and I don't know if that is a town tell for her not
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the Defeatism score of this game is pretty damn high imo
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damn quiet deadline. none of the ppl on rs are here...
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@damdy if we had a lot of ppl here and you could start some shennies. who would you try to shennie on and why (can be ultra short)?
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hm yeah, think my earlier question was super similar I guess.
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I so cant wait to read the scum qt after the game
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so rayn moves from prolly town to all the town
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dunno I cant see that far from the inside of koshi's pocket.
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Day One Final Vote Count
mderg (5):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin, trfel, Koshi, Holyflare
rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Damdred
Koshi (1): Holyflare, Trfel
Trfel (1): prplhz
darthfoley (2): raynpelikoneet, mderg, rsoultin
prplhz (1):: Koshi, rsoultin
Conversion (0): rsoultin
Holyflare (0): mderg
ritoky (0): rsoultin
Not Voting (1): Rels
hilarious =D
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On February 11 2018 05:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2018 05:01 Calix wrote:Day Two Final Vote Count rsoultin (5): raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, Conversion, darthfoley, Damdred Damdred (3): Holyflare, Mocsta, Koshi, rsoultin, disformation, ritoky, disformation raynpelikoneet (0): rsoultinConversion (1): prplhz darthfoley (2): Koshi, rsoultin Mocsta (0): raynpelikoneetNot Voting (0): rsoultin is the lynch! Do you think it happened again? :D
well. both rs and damdy kinda stopped playing after d1/n1 and didn't do many reeds n stuff...
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On February 11 2018 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think the final mafia is one voting for Damdred.
lemme guess: i'm your preferred lynch tomorrow?
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On February 11 2018 05:31 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2018 05:31 darthfoley wrote:On February 11 2018 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 11 2018 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
Why? because you didn't vote for rsoultin. Actually Mocsta probably isn't mafia. Yea, he voted mderg > rsoultin when she was goon and he didn't have to I'm taking you back to town. Good observation.
oi that is indeed a good one
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so without a lot of doublechecking/filtering i'd say its probably either damdy or conv.
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if its neither I got pocketed by evil koshi.
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On February 11 2018 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2018 05:34 disformation wrote:
so without a lot of doublechecking/filtering i'd say its probably either damdy or conv. why would yo uthink conversion is scum?
super defeated tone/martyrism all the time after d1 (which might happen if both your partners were the wagons d1)
there were some other points I and koshi pointed out n1.
though... if it is koshi that might be moot
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hmmm though after looking at convs filter again... he was super focused on rsoultin for the like first 2 pages of his filter... not sure if he is one to bus a teampartner hard like this at the start of the day.
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On February 11 2018 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
hmmm though after looking at convs filter again... he was super focused on rsoultin for the like first 2 pages of his filter... not sure if he is one to bus a teampartner hard like this at the start of the day. Anyone in the rsoultin wagon saves rsoultin by voting for Damdred with her. EVERYONE in the rsoultin wagon is people who did NOT vote for mderg D1. And Mocsta. Everyone on Damdred was "confirmed town" and then Koshi's confirmed town disformation. There is no reason not to change the vote to Damdred because you "just followed confirmed town". I think rsoultin just wants us to lynch Damdred.
not sure I completely understand, but in the end you are saying, that rs tried to set damdred up by voting not damdred on D2?
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scum also cant cc without losing.
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okay, I understand now. makes sense.
I still think it is not impossible to go for the bus here, but that makes it a whole lot less likely.
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On February 11 2018 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +disformation made a post where he suggested that i am mafia and i was either trying to bus df (over rsoultin lynch), or trying to find an alternative lynch. Vote situation at the time 5 on rsoultin, some random 1's on some random other people. You srsly think that conclusion makes any fucking sense in any world at all? I am going to remind everyone of this post. Because what disformation says there is that i wanted to find an alternative lynch to rsoultin, which doesn't make any sense, unless guess what?
here is the post rayns talking about btw.
On February 10 2018 00:10 disformation wrote:
nah is fine. is super interesting game.
also noted that on pages like 30-35 there was some talk about df. think rayn had him as his #2 scumread. could be him trying to steer the lynch but running out of time? not sure. could see him just bus, if he is running out of time to play.
guess it makes no sense anymore^^ or even less sense
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was that a poor choice of words. or is that a concede concede? as in concede the game?
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On February 11 2018 20:49 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2018 05:25 disformation wrote:On February 11 2018 05:23 Holyflare wrote:On February 11 2018 05:01 Calix wrote:Day Two Final Vote Count rsoultin (5): raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, Conversion, darthfoley, Damdred Damdred (3): Holyflare, Mocsta, Koshi, rsoultin, disformation, ritoky, disformation raynpelikoneet (0): rsoultinConversion (1): prplhz darthfoley (2): Koshi, rsoultin Mocsta (0): raynpelikoneetNot Voting (0): rsoultin is the lynch! Do you think it happened again? :D well. both rs and damdy kinda stopped playing after d1/n1 and didn't do many reeds n stuff... This is super disingenuous btw. Damdred had one page of filter day 1 and now he has like a million.
meh. volume != content. just didn't feel like damdy was doing a lot in the way of reeds or content.
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oh btw ill probably be not here at d3 deadline. so if you guys want to ml me d3 is a good day.
game is probably won regardless anyways.
ill try to play more tomorrow and point you at the last scum.
though tbh I hope blues just have the game auto solved.
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On February 12 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Df who mafia?
Disfo who mafia?
mh dunno.
kinda want to say koshi, just for having me as ultra town all the time and then putting me as #2 scum without giving a reason. but *shrugs*
really want to reread d1 b4 I give my final answer.
don't think its mocsta. don't think its rayn. don't think it is ritoky.
prplhz might be possible poe wise.
not sure about df, would need to actually read stuff to decide.
I guess damdy is still possible.
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always.
that's the problem when you don't know ppls alignments. its just really hard to tell.
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like I still have a bad feeling about voting damdy. dunno why.
prplhz is playing an extremely no fucks given at all game if he is scum.
don't think its hf, mocsta, ritoky, rayn.
leaves conv and df. need to reread d1 of both. think df is just a tad more likely just for being on mderg not rs? but again need to reread.
and if its none of those it might be koshi?
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On February 12 2018 04:17 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2018 04:11 disformation wrote:
like I still have a bad feeling about voting damdy. dunno why.
prplhz is playing an extremely no fucks given at all game if he is scum.
don't think its hf, mocsta, ritoky, rayn.
leaves conv and df. need to reread d1 of both. think df is just a tad more likely just for being on mderg not rs? but again need to reread.
and if its none of those it might be koshi? I was never "on mderg but not rsoultin." I voted for rsoultin both days
your vote was on mderg at the end of d1.
but yeah I know you were on rs for some time, which is why I said like 2-3 times I'm going to need to reread you.
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yes your vour vote is clearly on rsoultin not mderg
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oh I wrote it the other way around earlier
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obv I meant the person who was not the PR
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my bad, you're still super unchill though.
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thanks for the carry rayn
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since rayn appears to be parody I also don't think there is a miller. or very very unlikely at least
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On February 12 2018 05:09 Conversion wrote:
does parody cop or whatever return different checks on blues? also who saves Koshi over rayn on that might :l
no. pretty sure it only counts town and scum. not town, blue and scum.
good point on the save though
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sry for voting you damdy. my reads were super bad this game. xD
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was about to say... only person to cc left is rit. right?
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ah no. I think mocsta hasn't posted yet.
eh whatevs. will check tomorrow.
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hmmm k.
well town still in a pretty good spot. scum has not many options for mls now.
feel like prpl and me would have been needed mls for a scum win.
even if we ml today, scum has to shoot prpl, which means rayn gets another check.
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On February 12 2018 16:30 Holyflare wrote:
I think we go lynch Damdred today, can check me if you really want tonight and then conversion or ritoky tomorrow
why not koshi?
On February 12 2018 16:56 Holyflare wrote:
Prplhz didn't even vote df lol?
yeah, that slightly irritated me, too. no cc though. should be noticeable if he for some reason keeps on surviving night phases.
Day One Final Vote Count mderg (5):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin, trfel, Koshi, Holyflare rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Damdred Koshi (1): Holyflare, TrfelTrfel (1): prplhzdarthfoley (2): raynpelikoneet, mderg, rsoultinprplhz (1):: Koshi, rsoultinConversion (0): rsoultinHolyflare (0): mdergritoky (0): rsoultinNot Voting (1): Rels
so D1 the last scummer 100% did bus.
Day Two Final Vote Count rsoultin (5): raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, Conversion, darthfoley, Damdred Damdred (3): Holyflare, Mocsta, Koshi, rsoultin, disformation, ritoky, disformationraynpelikoneet (0): rsoultinConversion (1): prplhzdarthfoley (2): Koshi, rsoultinMocsta (0): raynpelikoneet
so the big question here is if you bus, or if you try to divert.. obv a moot point if last scum is damdy after all.
ritoky did a fairly lazy sheep onto damdy. wouldnt it just be better for him to sheep rayn onto rs if he is scum? he did make the vote 3-3 with rs still being the lynch,
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dunno man. do you put a super early vote on a pr and afk like that?
I mean it is not impossible, but pretty mean xD
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well I guess you could say ritoky didn't have much impact this game.
and i've lynched a scum!ritoky for the very same thing once already.
assuming damdy is town, i'd kinda say its one of ritoky, hf, koshi just from the D2 votes. it being one of those 3 also would explain why there is not concede yet. although thats wifom land
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rs on rito d1:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 06 2018 18:29 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
hf town
not lynching mocsta today
rsoul prob town
df hot and cold
conv kinda poop soup
lynch koshi Meh. Not really liking this list post. It's defending me without defending me, which is more likely to come from scum, and I like where he's at on df and conv because that's where I'm at, but the default to lynching koshi is just shit-tastic. Have no reason to anything koshi, so why him over poop soup, for instance? On February 06 2018 18:48 rsoultin wrote:
I think I want to lynch into conv/rit/mderg today.
Not sure on mocsta...it's hard to tell with someone tunneled on you.
Rayn and truffle are town.
DF...I'm not sure. I see the issue truffle has with him, and it's part of why I'm reading truffle town, but I still think that tonally DF is kinda towny. Relaxed. Also, it doesn't really look like last game where he was scum.
What bugs me about ritoky most is he seems to have a decently strong reason to scumread conversion but isn't pursuing it. If conv ends up being scum, he probably is, too. Actually, he's probably scum anyway. I really don't get the focus on koshi over people who are actually scummy to him. On February 06 2018 19:45 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 12:07 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 12:02 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
hf town
not lynching mocsta today
rsoul prob town
df hot and cold
conv kinda poop soup
lynch koshi Hi ritoky what makes conv brown? his questions lead to dead end alleys where people get robbed and murdered. non committal. posts like "good point about that thing i was doing sir! cheerio chaps" generally come from mafia. ^ This is what I'm referring to, ritoky. You say that you only have 1 and a half strong townreads, but this looks like a scumread to me. Also the only one in your filter at all. Say you're joking about koshi, and yeah we all know what koshi can be like (though I don't know anything about whether he pushes you all the time or not), I'd still think this would be enough to push Conversion. Only caveat is you're not really doing anything, so not as scummy as say having this read and then pushing someone else. But the doing nothing with it certainly isn't giving me town feels, either. Didn't someone already ask you why you thought HF was town? On February 06 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 19:57 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 19:45 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 12:07 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 12:02 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
hf town
not lynching mocsta today
rsoul prob town
df hot and cold
conv kinda poop soup
lynch koshi Hi ritoky what makes conv brown? his questions lead to dead end alleys where people get robbed and murdered. non committal. posts like "good point about that thing i was doing sir! cheerio chaps" generally come from mafia. ^ This is what I'm referring to, ritoky. You say that you only have 1 and a half strong townreads, but this looks like a scumread to me. Also the only one in your filter at all. Say you're joking about koshi, and yeah we all know what koshi can be like (though I don't know anything about whether he pushes you all the time or not), I'd still think this would be enough to push Conversion. Only caveat is you're not really doing anything, so not as scummy as say having this read and then pushing someone else. But the doing nothing with it certainly isn't giving me town feels, either. Didn't someone already ask you why you thought HF was town? i don't understand your point. some1 asked me why he was poop soup, i told them. he was the only player i had any negative inclinations toward. are those feelings a strong enough deviation from the norm to warrant trying to lynch him at this point? no not really. and why do i have to push things? why can't i play reactive? if you want to read my lack of aggression and my simple, succinct, honest posting style as scum; that's on you. you do you, i'll do me. i bet i come out finding more scum in the end though. The problem is if you're town you doing you looks like scum. Can you elaborate on this? On February 06 2018 20:13 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 20:06 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 19:57 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 19:45 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 12:07 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 12:02 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
hf town
not lynching mocsta today
rsoul prob town
df hot and cold
conv kinda poop soup
lynch koshi Hi ritoky what makes conv brown? his questions lead to dead end alleys where people get robbed and murdered. non committal. posts like "good point about that thing i was doing sir! cheerio chaps" generally come from mafia. ^ This is what I'm referring to, ritoky. You say that you only have 1 and a half strong townreads, but this looks like a scumread to me. Also the only one in your filter at all. Say you're joking about koshi, and yeah we all know what koshi can be like (though I don't know anything about whether he pushes you all the time or not), I'd still think this would be enough to push Conversion. Only caveat is you're not really doing anything, so not as scummy as say having this read and then pushing someone else. But the doing nothing with it certainly isn't giving me town feels, either. Didn't someone already ask you why you thought HF was town? i don't understand your point. some1 asked me why he was poop soup, i told them. he was the only player i had any negative inclinations toward. are those feelings a strong enough deviation from the norm to warrant trying to lynch him at this point? no not really. and why do i have to push things? why can't i play reactive? if you want to read my lack of aggression and my simple, succinct, honest posting style as scum; that's on you. you do you, i'll do me. i bet i come out finding more scum in the end though. The problem is if you're town you doing you looks like scum. Can you elaborate on this? so you want to make me alter the way i am playing rather than you have to alter the way you're perceiving? that's selfish. it's pretty straightforward but sure. at the start of the game everyone starts at a baseline level, let's call it 0. as the game progresses people do things they gain points in their favor and against them. let's say the range is 10 to -10. if we were to place conv on that scale he was somewhere around a -2 to a -3. -5 is generally where you have to be for pressure to lynch to begin for me. maybe if he works at it, he can get there one day. I get this to an extent because my brother used a similar method, but not with the hands-off approach you're taking. It still bugs me that for someone with limited reads you're not actively doing something about it, even if I can see the different play-style argument of must wait to pressure until x certainty. But you go ahead and be you. On February 06 2018 20:21 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 20:17 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 20:13 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 20:06 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 19:57 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 19:45 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 12:07 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 12:02 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
hf town
not lynching mocsta today
rsoul prob town
df hot and cold
conv kinda poop soup
lynch koshi Hi ritoky what makes conv brown? his questions lead to dead end alleys where people get robbed and murdered. non committal. posts like "good point about that thing i was doing sir! cheerio chaps" generally come from mafia. ^ This is what I'm referring to, ritoky. You say that you only have 1 and a half strong townreads, but this looks like a scumread to me. Also the only one in your filter at all. Say you're joking about koshi, and yeah we all know what koshi can be like (though I don't know anything about whether he pushes you all the time or not), I'd still think this would be enough to push Conversion. Only caveat is you're not really doing anything, so not as scummy as say having this read and then pushing someone else. But the doing nothing with it certainly isn't giving me town feels, either. Didn't someone already ask you why you thought HF was town? i don't understand your point. some1 asked me why he was poop soup, i told them. he was the only player i had any negative inclinations toward. are those feelings a strong enough deviation from the norm to warrant trying to lynch him at this point? no not really. and why do i have to push things? why can't i play reactive? if you want to read my lack of aggression and my simple, succinct, honest posting style as scum; that's on you. you do you, i'll do me. i bet i come out finding more scum in the end though. The problem is if you're town you doing you looks like scum. Can you elaborate on this? so you want to make me alter the way i am playing rather than you have to alter the way you're perceiving? that's selfish. it's pretty straightforward but sure. at the start of the game everyone starts at a baseline level, let's call it 0. as the game progresses people do things they gain points in their favor and against them. let's say the range is 10 to -10. if we were to place conv on that scale he was somewhere around a -2 to a -3. -5 is generally where you have to be for pressure to lynch to begin for me. maybe if he works at it, he can get there one day. I get this to an extent because my brother used a similar method, but not with the hands-off approach you're taking. It still bugs me that for someone with limited reads you're not actively doing something about it, even if I can see the different play-style argument of must wait to pressure until x certainty. But you go ahead and be you. look i got a wife, 3 kids who can walk and talk, and 2 cats now; i ain't got the fire in my belly anymore to get in the trenches and duke it out with people. i battle it out all day long. what i do still have are my instincts even if they are washed-up; so this style of play suits the me of today much better. Just as with holyflare's insistance that he was treating people differently last game based on whether he was at work or not, I have no way to verify this. You'd do better to, as I said, just be you. I don't think you ever elaborated on your HF read? On February 06 2018 20:26 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 20:22 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 20:21 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 20:17 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 20:13 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 20:06 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 19:57 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 19:45 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 12:07 ritoky wrote:
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his questions lead to dead end alleys where people get robbed and murdered.
non committal.
posts like "good point about that thing i was doing sir! cheerio chaps" generally come from mafia. ^ This is what I'm referring to, ritoky. You say that you only have 1 and a half strong townreads, but this looks like a scumread to me. Also the only one in your filter at all. Say you're joking about koshi, and yeah we all know what koshi can be like (though I don't know anything about whether he pushes you all the time or not), I'd still think this would be enough to push Conversion. Only caveat is you're not really doing anything, so not as scummy as say having this read and then pushing someone else. But the doing nothing with it certainly isn't giving me town feels, either. Didn't someone already ask you why you thought HF was town? i don't understand your point. some1 asked me why he was poop soup, i told them. he was the only player i had any negative inclinations toward. are those feelings a strong enough deviation from the norm to warrant trying to lynch him at this point? no not really. and why do i have to push things? why can't i play reactive? if you want to read my lack of aggression and my simple, succinct, honest posting style as scum; that's on you. you do you, i'll do me. i bet i come out finding more scum in the end though. The problem is if you're town you doing you looks like scum. Can you elaborate on this? so you want to make me alter the way i am playing rather than you have to alter the way you're perceiving? that's selfish. it's pretty straightforward but sure. at the start of the game everyone starts at a baseline level, let's call it 0. as the game progresses people do things they gain points in their favor and against them. let's say the range is 10 to -10. if we were to place conv on that scale he was somewhere around a -2 to a -3. -5 is generally where you have to be for pressure to lynch to begin for me. maybe if he works at it, he can get there one day. I get this to an extent because my brother used a similar method, but not with the hands-off approach you're taking. It still bugs me that for someone with limited reads you're not actively doing something about it, even if I can see the different play-style argument of must wait to pressure until x certainty. But you go ahead and be you. look i got a wife, 3 kids who can walk and talk, and 2 cats now; i ain't got the fire in my belly anymore to get in the trenches and duke it out with people. i battle it out all day long. what i do still have are my instincts even if they are washed-up; so this style of play suits the me of today much better. Just as with holyflare's insistance that he was treating people differently last game based on whether he was at work or not, I have no way to verify this. You'd do better to, as I said, just be you. I don't think you ever elaborated on your HF read? On February 06 2018 12:52 ritoky wrote:
i read the conversation about the serial killer, and proceeded to roll my eyes and say to myself "this is so dumb". hf did the same thing at the same time. i am town, thus he is town.
koshi is a detriment to town regardless of his alignment; so if there is no compelling alternative, removing him from the game is always a positive. Oh lol >< I do remember you posting that...I guess I just didn't see that as a strong reason to townread someone so it didn't register. To be clear, it's valid enough for D1 or if it happens consistently, but I wouldn't put that much weight on one comment/reaction that lines up. On February 06 2018 20:35 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 20:29 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 20:26 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 20:22 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 20:21 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 20:17 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 20:13 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 20:06 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 19:57 ritoky wrote:
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i don't understand your point. some1 asked me why he was poop soup, i told them. he was the only player i had any negative inclinations toward. are those feelings a strong enough deviation from the norm to warrant trying to lynch him at this point? no not really.
and why do i have to push things? why can't i play reactive? if you want to read my lack of aggression and my simple, succinct, honest posting style as scum; that's on you. you do you, i'll do me. i bet i come out finding more scum in the end though. The problem is if you're town you doing you looks like scum. Can you elaborate on this? so you want to make me alter the way i am playing rather than you have to alter the way you're perceiving? that's selfish. it's pretty straightforward but sure. at the start of the game everyone starts at a baseline level, let's call it 0. as the game progresses people do things they gain points in their favor and against them. let's say the range is 10 to -10. if we were to place conv on that scale he was somewhere around a -2 to a -3. -5 is generally where you have to be for pressure to lynch to begin for me. maybe if he works at it, he can get there one day. I get this to an extent because my brother used a similar method, but not with the hands-off approach you're taking. It still bugs me that for someone with limited reads you're not actively doing something about it, even if I can see the different play-style argument of must wait to pressure until x certainty. But you go ahead and be you. look i got a wife, 3 kids who can walk and talk, and 2 cats now; i ain't got the fire in my belly anymore to get in the trenches and duke it out with people. i battle it out all day long. what i do still have are my instincts even if they are washed-up; so this style of play suits the me of today much better. Just as with holyflare's insistance that he was treating people differently last game based on whether he was at work or not, I have no way to verify this. You'd do better to, as I said, just be you. I don't think you ever elaborated on your HF read? On February 06 2018 12:52 ritoky wrote:
i read the conversation about the serial killer, and proceeded to roll my eyes and say to myself "this is so dumb". hf did the same thing at the same time. i am town, thus he is town.
koshi is a detriment to town regardless of his alignment; so if there is no compelling alternative, removing him from the game is always a positive. Oh lol >< I do remember you posting that...I guess I just didn't see that as a strong reason to townread someone so it didn't register. To be clear, it's valid enough for D1 or if it happens consistently, but I wouldn't put that much weight on one comment/reaction that lines up. why not? i am a firm believer that 1 moment can make someone irrevocably town or mafia; and that people too often lose sight of those defining moments in favor of the "what have you done for me recently point of view", often to their detriment.as for the out of context bit. to me it reads as "hey this is my read, what's your opinion?" (which i had already given) not "hey lynch this person with me. hop on bruh" like trfel tries to make it seem. it's not the worst case, but it's enough so he doesn't get to sit at the awesome table. I don't disagree with this on principle. I just disagree with one 'mind-meld' equating to it. I've also been burned by my '1 moment irrevocably makes x, x alignment' in the past, on both scum and townreads. We can agree to disagree on it, though. On February 06 2018 20:36 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 20:35 ritoky wrote:
i mean we are talking about why trfel is a 5 and not a 7, so ofc it isn't a huge deal. it just gives me pause because in that moment he seems more interested in winning the argument and making the other guy look dumb than thoroughly evaluate his alignment. Fair, I suppose. On February 07 2018 18:00 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 17:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So uh oh.... is Damdred town or mafia? I read him on emotion and tone...usually related to how he's being pushed. I'd say a bit of a scumlean, though. Even ignoring that he's wrong on me, which is unusual but not impossible, going back through ritoky's filter he's actually been super fluid in his reads and poking in a lot of places. Unless I'm wrong on ritoky, which I actually used to be quite frequently, it bugs me that Ian is scumreading him. I'd like a more thorough description of why. Although maybe the easiest way to read him is to just vote him and see how he reacts, lol On February 07 2018 18:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 18:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont get how the first post you made and this second one go together quite well since in the first post you gave totally different reasons for him possibly being mafia than in the second one. I've read ritoky's filter between the first and the second. On February 07 2018 18:08 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also srsly think ritoky hasn't done shit in this game. The most close thing to doing anything is the Koshi emotional burst but that also happened to be 100% bs. Read his filter and then tell me you don't see it. On February 07 2018 18:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 18:19 Holyflare wrote:On February 07 2018 18:00 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 17:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So uh oh.... is Damdred town or mafia? I read him on emotion and tone...usually related to how he's being pushed. I'd say a bit of a scumlean, though. Even ignoring that he's wrong on me, which is unusual but not impossible, going back through ritoky's filter he's actually been super fluid in his reads and poking in a lot of places. Unless I'm wrong on ritoky, which I actually used to be quite frequently, it bugs me that Ian is scumreading him.I'd like a more thorough description of why. Although maybe the easiest way to read him is to just vote him and see how he reacts, lol I also don't get how we got to ritoky while talking about damdred. You've been pointing out ritoky posts you've hated all game so what reads are 'fluid"??? Not the reads themselves, the overall picture of the game, Joni. I was dubious about him not actively pushing the one scummy read he seemed to have. His explanations were reasonable if unverifiable. I'm allowed to change my mind after rereading his filter (and a bit before, obv, given I unvoted him) -flicks- On February 07 2018 18:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you mean the Koshi stuff i think it is slightly more likely to come from mafia. I have had huge fights with Holyflare when we have both been town. Same with you. ritoky's stuff on Koshi doesn't matter because not only is it wrong but it is just a spacegoat to not do anything or discern his alignment. Same as the smiley read. What i mean is that i would never as town use "lol you're so annoying because you always are" or "we always fight about stupid stuff" (when getting into an argument) to "strengthen" my argument, which to me seems like ritoky is doing. Not talking about the koshi stuff at all. That's also NAI to me. It would be true as either alignment, from both of them. They're babbling about nothing relevant to the game. On February 07 2018 18:38 rsoultin wrote:Ritoky posts: + Show Spoiler +On February 06 2018 06:27 ritoky wrote:
hf On February 06 2018 12:52 ritoky wrote:
i read the conversation about the serial killer, and proceeded to roll my eyes and say to myself "this is so dumb". hf did the same thing at the same time. i am town, thus he is town.
koshi is a detriment to town regardless of his alignment; so if there is no compelling alternative, removing him from the game is always a positive. On February 06 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
hf town
not lynching mocsta today
rsoul prob town
df hot and cold
conv kinda poop soup
lynch koshi On February 06 2018 12:07 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 12:02 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
hf town
not lynching mocsta today
rsoul prob town
df hot and cold
conv kinda poop soup
lynch koshi Hi ritoky what makes conv brown? his questions lead to dead end alleys where people get robbed and murdered. non committal. posts like "good point about that thing i was doing sir! cheerio chaps" generally come from mafia. On February 06 2018 12:24 ritoky wrote:
truffle On February 06 2018 18:57 ritoky wrote:
truffle is less townie than before because he took a blatant OoC quote.
conv slightly less shitty for calling truffle's bullshit about OoC quote.
nothing else interesting. On February 06 2018 20:00 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is the "half-town" read? that mocsta is town. it is pretty much purely on the heuristic that the highest activity player d1 is almost always town. because his obsession with his nothing-burger case does not inspire any further confidence in me about his alignment. On February 07 2018 09:10 ritoky wrote:
Hey mocsta, I have a great question for you. Since you haven't rescinded the whole bomb thing I don't think....why are you voting rsoul? In your eyes she gonna die anyways right? On February 06 2018 20:11 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 06 2018 20:00 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is the "half-town" read? that mocsta is town. it is pretty much purely on the heuristic that the highest activity player d1 is almost always town. because his obsession with his nothing-burger case does not inspire any further confidence in me about his alignment. so rsoultin and Trfel arent townreads after all? I mean if Mocsta is "half town" based on a shitty heuristic, i am quite sure you should consider your almost as shitty smiley read more convincing and Trfel is always town so i cannot understand why anyone should not read him as town as Mocsta in the first place. I don't understand the strength of HF read and i think it is BS but i concede to the point you could possibly maybe sometimes think so as town. i mean i was confident until you told me she got nailed for it last game, then i looked and it was kinda true; so i lost some confidence in it. i was banking on using the read i invented years ago to get a sneakster read, but it appears people still plagiarize my reads shamelessly. trfel took a quote out of context pretty bad, so he doesn't get to sit at the table anymore. On February 07 2018 08:08 ritoky wrote:
df what made you go from liking rayn to not liking rayn? On February 07 2018 09:01 ritoky wrote:
You called rels town one time df. It was strange and off-putting. But I love your kick ass, take names, and fuck off tone. It makes me slightly hard. On February 07 2018 09:49 ritoky wrote:
i believe df is using the nationality ascribed to his role and rels post to get a read.....altho i really don't think i should be posting about it cuz it feels icky. On February 07 2018 08:52 ritoky wrote:
I mean statistically damdred is more likely mafia than wrong about my alignment, so there's that. These are slightly out of order to show where reads are changing, but that's what I mean by fluid, HF. On February 07 2018 18:47 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 07 2018 18:42 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 18:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
can you tell me what you mean with fluid? It's a little hard to describe. It's how I caught Damerion, though. It's not just changing reads on an individual, but also just changing reads based on new information in the thread. I'm not saying that ritoky is really hard-pushing anything (that was what I thought was scummy the first time through) but I am saying that his view of the game is shifting with new information. I generally find that towny. I generally agree with the statement but when your reads start at bullshit level 10 it is easy to change them to reasonable level 1. What reads did you think were bullshit from ritoky? On February 07 2018 19:14 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:05 ritoky wrote:
yeah i don't really think he is mafia at all, so not doing that. Because of townreading Rels? I mean, I understand why you think it might be...I forget the word...angling? Hold on, let me pop back into the DF filter. On February 07 2018 19:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:20 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 19:14 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 19:05 ritoky wrote:
yeah i don't really think he is mafia at all, so not doing that. Because of townreading Rels? I mean, I understand why you think it might be...I forget the word...angling? Hold on, let me pop back into the DF filter. Nh. I don't know. It kind of seems like you're assuming an inexplicable townread comes from that with no basis in fact. Other than maybe his unwilligness to elaborate. Which is weird, really. If he was angling and you already publically identified it, why would he feel the need to keep it secret? More to the point, it's Rels. He is French. And I know that I've seen him make posts like that before. (Thought he did in Newbie, but I guess I was wrong.) It's possible that darthfoley read into it I suppose but...meh. I just don't find this theory as compelling as the rest of his filter, even if it's technically possible. You mentioned tone before. Are those two reasons your main reasons for townreading him? :/ You're not supposed to leave, ritoky. On February 07 2018 21:41 rsoultin wrote:I'm tempted to sit on you because of ritoky. Your reads still seem to change based on others' reads on you, though. Or at least on people scumreading you. That resembles your scum play to me. If you have town games that show you kinda OMGUS your way through games, could you link one of them, please? I'll follow up eventually if I don't get lynched today, but my bruised ego would prefer a tidy collection of correct reads to leave town with, and I doubt I'll have the time before deadline to pursue that avenue. On February 07 2018 21:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or mby you should wait until d2 and lynch unccd vigilante who shot mafia because someone talked about sk. That would make my day. What did you disagree with on my darth foley read? You asked for my filter dive on him (demanded it actually), I quoted where I'd already given it just as I quoted the ritoky posts that had me reading his game as fluid that I'd already given to holyflare when you asked, and you insta-voted me. So either you have a problem with my read that I'd like explained, or you didn't realize I was quoting where I'd already answered what you were asking for. On February 07 2018 21:58 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley
the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable. I'm not a big fan of Joni's townread on mderg or the fact that he was (is?) scumreading ritoky for the same reason that I was, but honestly this post probably makes him town. That and I'm generally not getting the 'scream until my target is lynched' vibe that I normally get from a scum Joni - he's still pushing, but taking the time to prod. Caveat here is he knows how I read him and has catered to that before. Caveat to the caveat is if he were scum here he could push me until the cows come home with no one listening to my trying to say he's scum for not involving people, and no one else seems to have that read nailed down on him. So. Still pretty sure he's town. Just being Joni. On February 07 2018 22:04 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:On February 07 2018 21:50 rsoultin wrote:
-snorts- I don't know why I ever thought Conversion looked scummy. I'm stupid apparently. Probably more liking where truffle was coming from and not thinking about Conversion's alignment clearly.
There's still the claiming to be caught up but not and slight contradictions, but I don't think that's very alignment indicative in this case. It's kind of bad but his case on me is probably the biggest thing that makes him more likely town in my eyes.
Not bothering with Rels.
Neither of these two should be lynched today. The funny thing is that nobody understands why you even thought conversion was mafia to begin with because you didn't say a thing. So why did you find him scummy? Mostly just inconsistencies and nodding my head to Truffle's posts which gave me warm fuzzies at the time. I was a shameful sheeple. It wasn't my strongest read at the time. Thus pursuing ritoky. However, ritoky addressed some of my concerns and then Conversion comes to the thread echoing a sentiment you'd just posted...something about me not doing anything about my scumreads. Then posted that well I'd poked at ritoky but that didn't mean anything because he didn't see what I'd gotten from it. Maybe it was an emotional reaction at the time, but it looked to me like he hadn't actually read what I'd posted since he'd left, then realized his mistake and posted to acknolwedge it before he could be called out on it, but still stick to his read. In effect, though, even if that's true it still could have come from town. I'm just bad. On February 07 2018 22:49 rsoultin wrote:
There are glimmers of something in mderg's filter until the list post, which is mostly nulullllullululull.
I was gonna bother but you know what?
Truffle felt town to me most of the game until the reversal on Conversion's case. It's not even that Conversion's case was bad, because it wasn't; it's that it touched on the sort of intangibles that the Truffle of years ago didn't tend to find compelling. I think he's still town but don't give him a free pass.
Holyflare is whatever the fuck. I can never tell even when I care.
And I'm sure you all will blame me when you inevitably lynch me tonight after I bugger off for the rest of the day, but personally I only hold myself responsible for the beginning of the day when I was being a bit of a snit. At some point this game just isn't worth it anymore.
Voting mderg.
Don't want to vote DF without talking to ritoky about his read first. On February 08 2018 02:31 rsoultin wrote:As for the truffle read, it's just that he used to have a tendency to focus on tangibles more than intangibles. By that I mean inconsistencies between actions and words, or words and words, kind of like he's still doing throughout the game. So it's actually unusual (but only weakly so given this is a years' old meta read as both he and I have said) that someone posting about intangibles about how I feel within the game vs how I feel within other games would be that convincing to him. Townreading you for it is completely within expectations and he should anyway because he's awesome like me except when I'm not. @Truffle, that's because Conversion wasn't my main scumread when I was voting ritoky. You have the timing off, perhaps because I poorly communicated it. I was talking about the point in the game when I posted the below post: Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 18:48 rsoultin wrote:
I think I want to lynch into conv/rit/mderg today.
Not sure on mocsta...it's hard to tell with someone tunneled on you.
Rayn and truffle are town.
DF...I'm not sure. I see the issue truffle has with him, and it's part of why I'm reading truffle town, but I still think that tonally DF is kinda towny. Relaxed. Also, it doesn't really look like last game where he was scum.
What bugs me about ritoky most is he seems to have a decently strong reason to scumread conversion but isn't pursuing it. If conv ends up being scum, he probably is, too. Actually, he's probably scum anyway. I really don't get the focus on koshi over people who are actually scummy to him. On February 08 2018 03:28 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 03:24 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 03:21 Damdred wrote:
idk its a bit strange to me that when i got back you didnt jump on me to try to talk to me... and its annoying when i have postes very few have talked to me.
You didnt evwm talk to me about mocsta or tell me i was wrong and read the thread more idk. Why should I have done that? I don't fundamentally disagree with you about mocsta. Although that does remind me that I did actually have a question for you. I think ritoky looks good this game. He and Joni are probably my biggest townreads. So what is it that you don't like about ritoky? On February 08 2018 04:19 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:10 Damdred wrote: On February 08 2018 03:55 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 03:47 Damdred wrote:
Well he wasnt doing the thing that makes him an easy townread when i was in thread anyway. After reading his later content he did a couple of the things so hes probably town. What are those things? I mean, I think you've mentioned a meta read that you don't want to fully disclose (correct me if I'm wrong) but surely there's something you can point to that changed your mind? I cant go into to much detail or ritoky will change how he plays to mimic. He had a few posts that changed my mind about him. His last post about if we have to shenanigans onto him so be it etc., felt like a typical martyr ritoky post makes as town. That was the point where i really lost any doubt. As for initially he was a bit meh opening up and seemed lazy but I wasnt here for most of hia filter so was pretty early for me I think. Fair. It was partially curiosity and partially because I think that you being wrong on both me and ritoky as town would be pretty unlikely. Probably a little more curiosity because you posted something that I think you'd probably never post as scum. But I'm really not sure who it is that you actually want to lynch right now? On February 08 2018 04:25 rsoultin wrote:@df And you can adjust the 'tempted' part to I'm resistant to lynching you today because of ritoky. Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 21:41 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 21:32 darthfoley wrote:
maybe I like rayn again I'm tempted to sit on you because of ritoky. Your reads still seem to change based on others' reads on you, though. Or at least on people scumreading you. That resembles your scum play to me. If you have town games that show you kinda OMGUS your way through games, could you link one of them, please? I'll follow up eventually if I don't get lynched today, but my bruised ego would prefer a tidy collection of correct reads to leave town with, and I doubt I'll have the time before deadline to pursue that avenue. On February 08 2018 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
I don't have a better vote than prplhz, and I'm not convinced on that either.
But I don't want to lynch mderg and I want to discuss darth foley with ritoky so yolo \o/ On February 08 2018 04:45 rsoultin wrote:Oh, yeah that. That was pretty shit actually lol. Half of it was based on this idea that my ritoky scumread was an association read. On February 08 2018 04:47 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:45 rsoultin wrote:Oh, yeah that. That was pretty shit actually lol. Half of it was based on this idea that my ritoky scumread was an association read. Like you honestly could have said the same thing just by saying I didn't have a clear scumread on Conversion. Quoting the posts where I was talking about poking him for a joke and talking about ritoky not pursuing the one read that appeared to actually be a scumread of his is pretty disingenous.
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 08 2018 07:27 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 07:24 Koshi wrote:On February 08 2018 04:40 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 04:37 mderg wrote:On February 08 2018 04:29 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 04:28 mderg wrote:
I think my rsoultin scumread may actually be stupid here. That's unfortunate for you given I'm the main counterwagon. Who would you even want to lynch then? I think I might want to lynch darthfoley Meh fuck it. Not lynching you. I really don't think I want to lynch DF either, though. Why dont you know what you want to do 30 mins before lynch in a game in which you have the largest filter? I wanted ritoky's take on darth foley. Beyond that it was mostly nullish reads, so yeah -shrugs- On February 08 2018 17:49 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 17:35 Trfel wrote:On February 08 2018 17:24 rsoultin wrote:
Nh. Idk I find the outburst hard to get past. I hear you on why not mderg, but the other part is hed just gone to the trouble of saying that this looked like mderg's town game. Could be he didn't know how to shift his read, especially given I don't think he ever had a reason to townread me. Wait you're right mderg was town last game >< All the same I stand by it. Post #717 (list post thing) is where he says mderg looked the same as his town game, but #719 and #780 could have led to a read flip IMO. Hm, looking deeper... Seems he committed to staying on rsoultin at about the same time mderg switched his vote from rsoultin to darthfoley. However, mderg said "I think my rsoultin scumread may actually be stupid here" 13 minutes previously. That's a huge, huge, huge miscommunication if they're mafia together. And if mafia was really trying to keep mderg alive, they could have asked mderg to vote to save himself; no one can ever be blamed for voting to save themself. I stand by the read. Like, if they're mafia together, then Conversion did set himself up for either voting mderg or rsoultin. He still went the opposite direction as mderg did. That's not a result of not knowing how to switch, that would only be the result of an incredible mafia team breakdown that I don't think is likely at all (much less something to scumread Conversion over). You might be right actually. I really don't see a scum Damdred though. The way he whined for my attention is just not something I see him doing when he knows how well I read him. Also, his vote on me makes just as little sense. I could see one scum between df/rayn assuming I was wrong on rayn, but not both. If Joni is scum the df lynch would be trying to push someone when the lynch on me started losing traction. I don't think they can ever be scum together. Your point on disinfo was good. I was liking him alright because it seemed like the lynch energized him, and hadn't thought about him following the game before. That just puts him at null though. Also kinda liking prp. Hf is always town here. Still like ritoky. If koshi is scum he's pocketed me so hard lol. You're posting smart truffle thoughts. As for mocsta...he's probably just town but I don't think I'll ever be sure of him. So in short unless I'm forgetting someone I must be wrong on my reads somewhere. On February 08 2018 20:09 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 20:04 ritoky wrote:On February 08 2018 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 08 2018 19:59 ritoky wrote:On February 08 2018 18:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 08 2018 06:50 Mocsta wrote:On February 08 2018 06:46 ritoky wrote:
casually lynching mafia on my birthday.
framer implies cop. cop should be on rsoul, green gives us 6 or 7 confirmed. red gives us 2 mafia in 2 days; both are pretty unlosable scenarios.
gonna try to finish my nap before birthday dinner, cya tomorrow. Love it <b>bomb: damdred</b> uh oh... now i kinda think you're mafia. you've done this before when you write into mafia qt and then come to thread and forget which tags to use. this is a pretty sick read if true. it is true. i could live in that world. dunno if i could live in the rsoul/mocsta world. that world seems too spicy. mocsta: "hey yo tina, you mind if i yell at you about an sk for like 20 pages." rsoul: "oh yeah let's do it." mocsta: "i'ma case you too gurrrrl you like mah case." rsoul: "put that thing away, but keep yelling!" I actually think scumming with mocsta would be super fun. All kinds of crazy shit going down.
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so. rs was talking/mentioning rito a fuckton d1. some posts are super hilarious if rito is scum.
is the progression of:
scumreading rito
coming around to townreading him
and then defending him to a point where she only wants to vote df after having discussed df with rito
more s on s or s on t like?
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rit on rs:
(-the posts i have in rs on rit already)
+ Show Spoiler +On February 06 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
hf town
not lynching mocsta today
rsoul prob town
df hot and cold
conv kinda poop soup
lynch koshi On February 06 2018 12:15 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 12:13 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 12:07 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 12:02 Mocsta wrote:On February 06 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
hf town
not lynching mocsta today
rsoul prob town
df hot and cold
conv kinda poop soup
lynch koshi Hi ritoky what makes conv brown? his questions lead to dead end alleys where people get robbed and murdered. non committal. posts like "good point about that thing i was doing sir! cheerio chaps" generally come from mafia. or serial killed lol I can see where you are going with the comment though. I havent seen enough to suggest a lean. Is the rsoultin read based on anything in particular; or a even/or with conversion? i looked at her first 10 posts and they had less than 10 emoticons or typed emoticons in them. thus she is likely town. On February 06 2018 20:11 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 06 2018 20:00 ritoky wrote:On February 06 2018 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is the "half-town" read? that mocsta is town. it is pretty much purely on the heuristic that the highest activity player d1 is almost always town. because his obsession with his nothing-burger case does not inspire any further confidence in me about his alignment. so rsoultin and Trfel arent townreads after all? I mean if Mocsta is "half town" based on a shitty heuristic, i am quite sure you should consider your almost as shitty smiley read more convincing and Trfel is always town so i cannot understand why anyone should not read him as town as Mocsta in the first place. I don't understand the strength of HF read and i think it is BS but i concede to the point you could possibly maybe sometimes think so as town. i mean i was confident until you told me she got nailed for it last game, then i looked and it was kinda true; so i lost some confidence in it. i was banking on using the read i invented years ago to get a sneakster read, but it appears people still plagiarize my reads shamelessly. trfel took a quote out of context pretty bad, so he doesn't get to sit at the table anymore. On February 07 2018 08:05 ritoky wrote:
I understand and agree with your point about rsoul HF. I also don't know who she thinks is actually scum after all that posting. However when I was talking with her last night, she seemed genuinely confused about my alignment and posting. It didn't feel like it was coming from a place of certainty or agenda. So I am inclined to think she isn't red even though the vast majority of her filter is defensive. On February 07 2018 18:48 ritoky wrote:
i am pretty sold on:
holyflare
rayn
darthfoley
then like next tier is probably:
rsoul
trfel
then there's a lot of confusion
then probably bottom tier is:
damdred
mderg On February 08 2018 06:46 ritoky wrote:
casually lynching mafia on my birthday.
framer implies cop. cop should be on rsoul, green gives us 6 or 7 confirmed. red gives us 2 mafia in 2 days; both are pretty unlosable scenarios.
gonna try to finish my nap before birthday dinner, cya tomorrow. On February 08 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
also if you're a normal cop. don't listen to koshi, listen to me and check rsoul. split vote day 1, check da other person. like i said, if it is red mvm and 2 mafia in 2 days. if it is green you're looking at like 6 confirmed. if you're a parity cop, do w/e the fuk u want. On February 08 2018 12:06 ritoky wrote:
@rsoul idk what is important about my df read?
the guy looked at his alignment, saw a post of a guy claiming the same nationality, and generated a read from it. either you believe it is so asininely stupid that it comes from town; or you believe it is an angle shot trying to garner info from role pms to inform game reads.
i think it was the latter, and from my experience i have only seen 4 other angle shot reads on this forum (1 by me, 1 by robik, 1 by geript, and 1 i don't remember who) and all have been town.
if you want to talk tonality, i make the "fuck you" read all the time. people who tell others to go fuck themselves rather than pander or beg in a decent amount of circumstances read town to me. because mafia tend to be image conscious whereas townies want to get in there and rumble. On February 08 2018 12:27 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 12:16 Conversion wrote:On February 08 2018 12:14 ritoky wrote:
hey dude, if you're having a bad time. feel free to yell at and insult me. i won't take offense. if it helps you get out the other side into a clearer and more positive headspace, then i am fine with it. we good dude. where's your head at though I'm curious well i am not lynching any1 who lynched mafia tomorrow or considering their alignment unless we wake up to a cop saying "rsoul is red". i don't really think it was mvm, i think it was mvt. i think koshi is probably lock town regardless of rsouls alignment. i think i am pretty much lock town. i think df is pretty much lock town, but i doubt others will find my reason compelling. the people who didn't lynch mafia i don't have strong inclinations toward yet. i am of 2 minds on rayn. the read he made on me he once made on me in an obs qt where he convinced the entire obs i was mafia in the f3 only to see me lynch the mafia and win, so i know it is a read he has made before from a neutral perspective (and maybe once in a game) so i read it as pretty normal and town. but then he kinda avoids mderg weirdly from what i remember considering i feel like rayn would normally just dump on him cuz he was basically an afk. but then rayn isn't the type of mafia to save his drowning teammates. but then rayn had a good excuse to stay away from drowning mderg as leader of opposing wagon. so idk that's my mind for him. damdred kinda negative on him. the read wasn't really cuz he was wrong about me....it was more cuz it felt obligatory rather than a read he wanted/cared about making. all i remember about prp is calling me town when other people weren't....so i might be misted. you and rels slot i feel the least about at this point. i know i kinda didn't like you earlier but i mostly forgot why. On February 09 2018 22:03 ritoky wrote:
also i am pissed at the cop for not claiming with a check on rsoul from what i saw.
if you're a parody cop i forgive you slightly On February 11 2018 11:34 ritoky wrote:
well, that 0% correct rsoul read streak stays alive. some things never change.
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oh right. i think HF himself made the point to damdred that when rs and mderg are both scum his vote looks real bad.
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rayn can you look at the rs on rit / rit on rs stuff?
because i totally dont like rit calling for cop checks on rs real hard like.
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yeah, only was confused cause she talked to him A LOT for the amount of posts/presence he had.
the "you are not supposed to leave" post is quite funny, but I guess that might just be cause he left his vote on her partner.
I guess if damdred is town and hf scum then the game kinda makes sense. hf can make good cases as scum too after all.
though i guess the long term plan would not have been great.
i mean with the D1 vote he HAS to prevent the rs lynch. Or hope everyone forgets.
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though. trying to prevent the rs lynch is exactly what he did.
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well right. i remember. felt like HF is the same alignment as me cause he is having similar problems with the lynch.
wish my d2 were not crap tier though, which makes it harder to judge.
@rit: mhh I guess you are pretty busy, so i'm not sure if my "little impact" read is actually good this game. but from glancing at your filter again i got no real urgent questions. only one would be as to who you think is the last scum.
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well dinner time. will be back later.
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not gonna lie. wish i had been there D1. Somehow it is fairly hard to fully grasp the D1 stuff, since I haven't been there. So I kinda have no 'feeling' for how town should have felt/behaved in those situations. Also my brain keeps skipping on how did what in exactly which order. Guess that is what ppl mean when they accuse ppl of being disconnected from the game, or not being able to grasp how town should have felt/behaved. gonna blame my worse posts on that too.
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but aside from everything it is pretty tempting to just sheep rayn, who has been on fire pretty much all game so far.
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i guess the other question besides d1 is whether town!hf believes his damdy read over rayn's plan to lynch rs.
I kinda did, but then I am not the most smart person in this game. So that is another point thats hard to tell.
though koshi/rit where on board, too. though koshi jumped and rito was just a sheep...
hmpf
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btw i found out why mocsta hasnt posted yet after looking at the d3 vc this morning. =D
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the thing is like if its either damdy or hf they fucked up real bad with the d1 vote.
which is of course possible, because that was not a great situation to be in and either seemed to be a bit short on time.
just have a feeling it might not be that easy.
though that is prolly paranoia. cause outside of those two...
rayn, prpl and me are pretty much 100% town.
rit was ultra chill earlier.
darth and conv dont rly make sense cause of their d1.
kinda leaves koshi?
sooo dunno. lynch damdy/hf/koshi for auto win?
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well mocsta was teh medic dodge shot. tr by everyone (imo) not as likely to be protected as rit/koshi/you.
same pattern as the trfel shot.
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maybe points to a risk averse scum.
but not sure how everyone likes their nks these days.
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On February 13 2018 00:38 disformation wrote:
well mocsta was teh medic dodge shot. tr by everyone (imo) not as likely to be protected as rit/koshi/you.
same pattern as the trfel shot.
rayn not rit. sry
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On February 13 2018 00:39 disformation wrote:
maybe points to a risk averse scum.
but not sure how everyone likes their nks these days.
maybe also points to a scummer that is not that sr... less need to shoot dangerous ppl if they dont sr you
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bleh. if you are scum that is^^
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mocsta was still on df when he was shot. mhmh.
though with scum voting df all the time i feel like they are trying to wifom us there.
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On February 13 2018 00:43 disformation wrote:
bleh. if you are scum that is^^
I'm trying to say that if you or damdy are scum, the d1 vote looks shady as fuck and was not a good long term strat, since that vote is likely to bite you in the ass.
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On February 13 2018 03:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2018 00:35 disformation wrote:
the thing is like if its either damdy or hf they fucked up real bad with the d1 vote.
which is of course possible, because that was not a great situation to be in and either seemed to be a bit short on time.
just have a feeling it might not be that easy.
though that is prolly paranoia. cause outside of those two...
rayn, prpl and me are pretty much 100% town.
rit was ultra chill earlier.
darth and conv dont rly make sense cause of their d1.
kinda leaves koshi?
sooo dunno. lynch damdy/hf/koshi for auto win? Can you explain that to me?
tldr like it is kinda that:
[QUOTE]On February 13 2018 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am just going to say i don't really care if you want to lynch Damdred first, because i believe he has almost the same chance of being scum than Holyflare. Also the fact is that whoever is mafia in this game the D1 was absolutely retarded for the mafia team so i don't buy any "this doesn't make any sense for me as mafia" from D1 because if that was a reason noone would be mafia. Except for prplhz or disformation, but that's not possible. But still always lynch prplhz if he's alive in F3 because then there is no doctor at all and it's a simple framer vs parity cop game.
I must say though, that if we go into the "this doesn't make any sense for me as mafia" then Conversion and darthfoley win the town prize.[/QUOTE]
but you also right. i'm not fully sure and should double check the why (see how bad I mixed up df's stuff at night).
conversion was early and strong on rs and even convinced trfel to vote her. then mderg come with his great post and conv jumps on him really hard. then he waffles a bit on the two and end up on mderg. I feel as scum it would make more sense for him to bus rs even harder and try to get cred from pushing her all day. also higher chance of saving the pr if he had stayed on rs.
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On February 13 2018 04:07 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2018 03:18 Holyflare wrote:On February 13 2018 00:35 disformation wrote:
the thing is like if its either damdy or hf they fucked up real bad with the d1 vote.
which is of course possible, because that was not a great situation to be in and either seemed to be a bit short on time.
just have a feeling it might not be that easy.
though that is prolly paranoia. cause outside of those two...
rayn, prpl and me are pretty much 100% town.
rit was ultra chill earlier.
darth and conv dont rly make sense cause of their d1.
kinda leaves koshi?
sooo dunno. lynch damdy/hf/koshi for auto win? Can you explain that to me? tldr like it is kinda that: Show nested quote +On February 13 2018 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am just going to say i don't really care if you want to lynch Damdred first, because i believe he has almost the same chance of being scum than Holyflare. Also the fact is that whoever is mafia in this game the D1 was absolutely retarded for the mafia team so i don't buy any "this doesn't make any sense for me as mafia" from D1 because if that was a reason noone would be mafia. Except for prplhz or disformation, but that's not possible. But still always lynch prplhz if he's alive in F3 because then there is no doctor at all and it's a simple framer vs parity cop game.
I must say though, that if we go into the "this doesn't make any sense for me as mafia" then Conversion and darthfoley win the town prize. but you also right. i'm not fully sure and should double check the why (see how bad I mixed up df's stuff at night). conversion was early and strong on rs and even convinced trfel to vote her. then mderg come with his great post and conv jumps on him really hard. then he waffles a bit on the two and end up on mderg. I feel as scum it would make more sense for him to bus rs even harder and try to get cred from pushing her all day. also higher chance of saving the pr if he had stayed on rs.
EBWOP
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so. both conv and darthfoley were onto both mderg and rsoultin and waffled between the two of them, but stayed on rs in the end?
and just sheeped rayn's case d2?
did I finally get it?
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On February 13 2018 05:46 darthfoley wrote:
If there's a roleblocker, we don't get another check off so idk why y'all are on autopilot.
And a roleblocker is likely if prplhz is actually medic soooooo
pst. I was hoping scum doesn't notice.
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aight. ill try to wrap my head around this game once more tomorrow, but i'll not be around at deadline.
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am in bed. still thinking about game.
basically just dumping my thoughts.
so outside the blues/checks we have: conv, df, rit, koshi, hf, damdy
igoring d1. less likely that scum did nothing and just sheeped rayn on rs. that makes conv and df look better. esp if damdy is town.
kinda want to exclude rit for his last batch of posts.
down to damdy, hf and koshi again.
meh. im running/thinking in circles. either im missing sometging or thats just the answer.
will try to read those 3 filters tomorrow.
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fair enough.
i think poating when tired as fuck or with an headache didnt help in that regard.
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yeah, just had a bunch of very exciting and productive meetings.
pretty much agree with your posts.
by poe its prolly hf, damdy or you.
@hf: yeah that was the post I was referring to when i said "HF himself pointed out that his vote is super scummy if both RS and mderg are scum". just hard to judge what you would do/are capable of as scum. since you know, you can be pretty good at that.
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so if you have a couple things to say, i'm all ears.
not gonna lie. super tempting to just sheep rayn who is conf town and on fire all game.
and i somehow cant really brain this game.
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i mean a lot of what hf has been doing this day is super wifomy.
though i kinda give him:
On February 13 2018 16:44 Holyflare wrote:
You should probably look at my reactions post mderg lynch. Very genuine.
On February 08 2018 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
Get fucking rekt
On February 08 2018 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
I'm confirmed yo
On February 08 2018 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
C o n f i r m e d
Damdred vote so bad but it might also have been onto mafia
On February 08 2018 05:13 Holyflare wrote:
Gb represent
that looks more town to me. unfortunately not impossible to fake either. -.-
btw a nitpick of something i didnt like on df's part:
On February 12 2018 20:46 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2018 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:The reason why i think Holyflare is our final mafia here is the following: I went back to read the D1 from ppl's filters, and actually properly read it. I am going to assume the following things from D1: On February 08 2018 05:03 Skynx wrote:Day One Final Vote Count mderg (5):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin, trfel, Koshi, Holyflare rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Damdred Koshi (1): Holyflare, TrfelTrfel (1): prplhz darthfoley (2): raynpelikoneet, mderg, rsoultin prplhz (0):: Koshi, rsoultinConversion (0): rsoultinHolyflare (0): mdergritoky (0): rsoultinNot Voting (1): Rels mderg is the lynch.
That's the final votecount from D1. What we know from there is this: Mafia bussed real hard. The only people who are not confirmed town are on not confirmed mafia are our flipped mafia. So regardless of who is mafia they have bussed super hard (since disformation is town the final mafia is in the active players). Now what i do believe is that the the reason for mderg to refuse to vote rsoultin is that the mafia thinks they win more often with rsoultin alive. I also think the mafia thinks the people on rsoultin are easier to lynch in total than the people on mderg. Anyone, just anyone could have claimed "credit" by switching from rsoultin to mderg (like Holyflare did), yet the people on rsoultin refused to do so. Honestly what i just said is just better play as scum and more likely to come from mafia than anything anyone on rsoultin did. I mean, at this point mafia is 100% getting lynched. There is absolutely no reason to stay on rsoultin because mderg flipping mafia doesn't make rsoultin town (darthfoley and Damdred realized this). The better play is just to "hammer mafia" and then say "maybe i was wrong on rsoultin" and try to paint her as town for the following phases. First of all, on Holyflare, is that. The vote switch is actually scummy lol (more on this below). Secondly is this; If you go to rsoultin's filter and know something about her scum play you will notice this. She likes to put all other things aside when she's defending herself. If you read her filter almost everything is her defending herself until i tell her to prove she is town by scumhunting. What is weird about Holyflare regarding this is that rsoultin defends against everyone else's cases than Holyflares!!! Literally, big rants with Mocsta, big rants with me, stuff with Conversion, stuff with darthfoley, no stuff... literally zero stuff with Holyflare. This is what she says about Holyflare: On February 06 2018 18:50 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 18:33 Holyflare wrote:
Even though you're just repeating the same things that I disagreed with. I'm changing my stance to agreement. You're making it impossible for me to get a read off you, btw On February 07 2018 22:49 rsoultin wrote:
Holyflare is whatever the fuck. I can never tell even when I care. Then there is some soft comments about what other people did regarding Holyflare's read on her, but never confronting him about anything, ever. Here is the last game filter for Tina, you don't even need to go further that first page to see the above and how she treats Holyflare this game is completely bullshit. I honestly didn't even see those posts earlier, i just didn't care about Holyflare because he was gunning for rsoultin so i didn't care. Now i must say, this is not a good reason to call Holyflare scum. I mean what rsoultin did is not a reason why Holyflare is scum, but the reason is that Holyflare should have noticed this and called rsoultin mafia for it, and do it fucking hard. Because when someone acts super scummy towards you then they are mafia. If Holyflare is town in this game he should have realized that for whatever reason rsoultin is scared to call him any alignment ever in this game and gunned her down for it, 100%. Then there is Holyflare's vote swtich from rsoultin to mderg. Here are the facts: - Holyflare has a super big scumread on rsoultin - Holyflare has never really talked anything about mderg - The vote switch happens when it is 100% certain that mafia is getting lynched no matter what Here is what Holyflare has said about mderg: I think it's more that I don't remember anything mderg has posted and that resonated with how I felt about him last game. mderg's only scumread at this point is rsoultin who is Holyflare's #1 scumread. Ant this is funny because:On February 08 2018 04:33 Holyflare wrote:On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this
Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky
prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF
Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia
Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin
I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign Mate you having a fucking laugh? Your biggest scum read is started by a wagon on reasoning I created. This is so bad. I also made a giant collection of where are rsoul conversion reads case?? So df should notice that HF has said stuff (and tbh i was the one that created rsoultin lynch, not holyflare), but he doesn't have to recognize mderg's #1 scumread is the same that his (which btw happened before HF even scumread rsoultin). Then this happens: On February 08 2018 04:40 Holyflare wrote:
I'll vote to save the talking people to kill the non talking people. Honestly haven't been able to catch up and read into mderg or prplhz though. Just finishing work On February 08 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
I don't care if mderg is town and getting lynched though. On February 08 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
I haven't read him. Here's the reason Holyflare decided to vote for mderg over rsoultin: On February 08 2018 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
I don't need to consolidate on anything though. If I have to I'll save rsoul because she types words though. His biggest fucking scumread he is so proud of he needs to shout other people HE is the one who created the wagon and NEVER anyone else and everyone is sheeping him, can be excused on D1 over a dude he doesn't have any clue what he even wrote???????????? This is literally bullshit, lite-fucking-rally. And for the record the words rsoultin typed after Holyflare made the "you have 4 pages of filter and nothing in there" continued to be absolutely nothing so the vote switch in itself makes no fucking sense at all. Come day 2 and i made my case on rsoultin. Holyflare instantly agrees. Then this happens: On February 10 2018 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
I also think rsoultin is a good vote too. No idea where she's at on any read whatsoever. My case about her conversion read day 1 still stands and her mderg read progression is even worse. But he didn't manage to vote rsoultin over a dude he doesn't even remember what they wrote. On February 10 2018 09:28 Holyflare wrote:
I want rsoultin to make a case for me to vote rayn. And also explain damdred. rsoultin never does this. On February 11 2018 01:29 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think rsoultin is mafia purely based on mderg's multiple interactions with her. Seems like 50% of his filter is arguing with her. Mmmm now it's the other way around than it was in the first quote? Like..... I understand the reasons Holyflare was voting for Damdred for. But i don't understand how he fucking ends up on Damdred over rsoultin here. Once again it doesn't make any fucking sense since with logic he should end up on rsoultin. Another thing to note here is that he sees many many "scummy stuff" other people do but never anything on rsoultin, never, it is always just a generic read of "i think she is scum but i vote for this other guy". And i fell like Holyflare as town would have always voted for rsoultin D1, and D2, over what he did. Two more points, a bit minor though but still a point. from D3 this: - Holyflare never even registers the point i made in my rsoultin case D2. The point is that as mafia, Damdred and darthfoley were pushing an anti-mafia idea from the beginning of N1. Ne never touches this with even a long stick, he never actually reconsiders he can be wrong here (when he most likely is). - Second point, he says this after my claim: On February 12 2018 07:10 Holyflare wrote:
Btw if darthfoley is town I'm lynching rayn tomorrow. When HF makes stupid jokes like this he is mafia. He did in the last game i played when he was mafia. I can look it up if you want to, but it always makes me feel something is wrong about this guy when he does it and while it's not really a reason to call him mafia it probably should be because it has always been correct. This is just a retarded thing to even suggest and i am quite sure he can make the obvious conclusion that "if rayn is alive at lylo then just lynch him". Notice that only mafia knows i am lying here about the check on prplhz / df, and i realize it must be fucking annoying when your possible mislynches towntell and you can do nothing about it. I think this is the result. #vote Holyflare Been waiting for someone to put some effort into a HF case. GJ
yeah hf was in his poe before that... but i dont think he was looking into HF that hard himself. so that post didnt strike me as a too towny thought.
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On February 13 2018 18:48 disformation wrote:i mean a lot of what hf has been doing this day is super wifomy. though i kinda give him: Show nested quote +On February 13 2018 16:44 Holyflare wrote:
You should probably look at my reactions post mderg lynch. Very genuine. Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
C o n f i r m e d
Damdred vote so bad but it might also have been onto mafia that looks more town to me. unfortunately not impossible to fake either. -.-
btw a nitpick of something i didnt like on df's part: Show nested quote +On February 12 2018 20:46 darthfoley wrote:On February 12 2018 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:The reason why i think Holyflare is our final mafia here is the following: I went back to read the D1 from ppl's filters, and actually properly read it. I am going to assume the following things from D1: On February 08 2018 05:03 Skynx wrote:Day One Final Vote Count mderg (5):: Koshi, ritoky, Mocsta, rsoultin, trfel, Koshi, Holyflare rsoultin (4): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Damdred Koshi (1): Holyflare, TrfelTrfel (1): prplhz darthfoley (2): raynpelikoneet, mderg, rsoultin prplhz (0):: Koshi, rsoultinConversion (0): rsoultinHolyflare (0): mdergritoky (0): rsoultinNot Voting (1): Rels mderg is the lynch.
That's the final votecount from D1. What we know from there is this: Mafia bussed real hard. The only people who are not confirmed town are on not confirmed mafia are our flipped mafia. So regardless of who is mafia they have bussed super hard (since disformation is town the final mafia is in the active players). Now what i do believe is that the the reason for mderg to refuse to vote rsoultin is that the mafia thinks they win more often with rsoultin alive. I also think the mafia thinks the people on rsoultin are easier to lynch in total than the people on mderg. Anyone, just anyone could have claimed "credit" by switching from rsoultin to mderg (like Holyflare did), yet the people on rsoultin refused to do so. Honestly what i just said is just better play as scum and more likely to come from mafia than anything anyone on rsoultin did. I mean, at this point mafia is 100% getting lynched. There is absolutely no reason to stay on rsoultin because mderg flipping mafia doesn't make rsoultin town (darthfoley and Damdred realized this). The better play is just to "hammer mafia" and then say "maybe i was wrong on rsoultin" and try to paint her as town for the following phases. First of all, on Holyflare, is that. The vote switch is actually scummy lol (more on this below). Secondly is this; If you go to rsoultin's filter and know something about her scum play you will notice this. She likes to put all other things aside when she's defending herself. If you read her filter almost everything is her defending herself until i tell her to prove she is town by scumhunting. What is weird about Holyflare regarding this is that rsoultin defends against everyone else's cases than Holyflares!!! Literally, big rants with Mocsta, big rants with me, stuff with Conversion, stuff with darthfoley, no stuff... literally zero stuff with Holyflare. This is what she says about Holyflare: On February 06 2018 18:50 rsoultin wrote:On February 06 2018 18:33 Holyflare wrote:
Even though you're just repeating the same things that I disagreed with. I'm changing my stance to agreement. You're making it impossible for me to get a read off you, btw On February 07 2018 22:49 rsoultin wrote:
Holyflare is whatever the fuck. I can never tell even when I care. Then there is some soft comments about what other people did regarding Holyflare's read on her, but never confronting him about anything, ever. Here is the last game filter for Tina, you don't even need to go further that first page to see the above and how she treats Holyflare this game is completely bullshit. I honestly didn't even see those posts earlier, i just didn't care about Holyflare because he was gunning for rsoultin so i didn't care. Now i must say, this is not a good reason to call Holyflare scum. I mean what rsoultin did is not a reason why Holyflare is scum, but the reason is that Holyflare should have noticed this and called rsoultin mafia for it, and do it fucking hard. Because when someone acts super scummy towards you then they are mafia. If Holyflare is town in this game he should have realized that for whatever reason rsoultin is scared to call him any alignment ever in this game and gunned her down for it, 100%. Then there is Holyflare's vote swtich from rsoultin to mderg. Here are the facts: - Holyflare has a super big scumread on rsoultin - Holyflare has never really talked anything about mderg - The vote switch happens when it is 100% certain that mafia is getting lynched no matter what Here is what Holyflare has said about mderg: I think it's more that I don't remember anything mderg has posted and that resonated with how I felt about him last game. mderg's only scumread at this point is rsoultin who is Holyflare's #1 scumread. Ant this is funny because:On February 08 2018 04:33 Holyflare wrote:On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this
Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky
prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF
Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia
Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin
I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign Mate you having a fucking laugh? Your biggest scum read is started by a wagon on reasoning I created. This is so bad. I also made a giant collection of where are rsoul conversion reads case?? So df should notice that HF has said stuff (and tbh i was the one that created rsoultin lynch, not holyflare), but he doesn't have to recognize mderg's #1 scumread is the same that his (which btw happened before HF even scumread rsoultin). Then this happens: On February 08 2018 04:40 Holyflare wrote:
I'll vote to save the talking people to kill the non talking people. Honestly haven't been able to catch up and read into mderg or prplhz though. Just finishing work On February 08 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
I don't care if mderg is town and getting lynched though. On February 08 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
I haven't read him. Here's the reason Holyflare decided to vote for mderg over rsoultin: On February 08 2018 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
I don't need to consolidate on anything though. If I have to I'll save rsoul because she types words though. His biggest fucking scumread he is so proud of he needs to shout other people HE is the one who created the wagon and NEVER anyone else and everyone is sheeping him, can be excused on D1 over a dude he doesn't have any clue what he even wrote???????????? This is literally bullshit, lite-fucking-rally. And for the record the words rsoultin typed after Holyflare made the "you have 4 pages of filter and nothing in there" continued to be absolutely nothing so the vote switch in itself makes no fucking sense at all. Come day 2 and i made my case on rsoultin. Holyflare instantly agrees. Then this happens: On February 10 2018 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
I also think rsoultin is a good vote too. No idea where she's at on any read whatsoever. My case about her conversion read day 1 still stands and her mderg read progression is even worse. But he didn't manage to vote rsoultin over a dude he doesn't even remember what they wrote. On February 10 2018 09:28 Holyflare wrote:
I want rsoultin to make a case for me to vote rayn. And also explain damdred. rsoultin never does this. On February 11 2018 01:29 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think rsoultin is mafia purely based on mderg's multiple interactions with her. Seems like 50% of his filter is arguing with her. Mmmm now it's the other way around than it was in the first quote? Like..... I understand the reasons Holyflare was voting for Damdred for. But i don't understand how he fucking ends up on Damdred over rsoultin here. Once again it doesn't make any fucking sense since with logic he should end up on rsoultin. Another thing to note here is that he sees many many "scummy stuff" other people do but never anything on rsoultin, never, it is always just a generic read of "i think she is scum but i vote for this other guy". And i fell like Holyflare as town would have always voted for rsoultin D1, and D2, over what he did. Two more points, a bit minor though but still a point. from D3 this: - Holyflare never even registers the point i made in my rsoultin case D2. The point is that as mafia, Damdred and darthfoley were pushing an anti-mafia idea from the beginning of N1. Ne never touches this with even a long stick, he never actually reconsiders he can be wrong here (when he most likely is). - Second point, he says this after my claim: On February 12 2018 07:10 Holyflare wrote:
Btw if darthfoley is town I'm lynching rayn tomorrow. When HF makes stupid jokes like this he is mafia. He did in the last game i played when he was mafia. I can look it up if you want to, but it always makes me feel something is wrong about this guy when he does it and while it's not really a reason to call him mafia it probably should be because it has always been correct. This is just a retarded thing to even suggest and i am quite sure he can make the obvious conclusion that "if rayn is alive at lylo then just lynch him". Notice that only mafia knows i am lying here about the check on prplhz / df, and i realize it must be fucking annoying when your possible mislynches towntell and you can do nothing about it. I think this is the result. #vote Holyflare Been waiting for someone to put some effort into a HF case. GJ yeah hf was in his poe before that... but i dont think he was looking into HF that hard himself. so that post didnt strike me as a too towny thought.
in hindsight the reaction to the lynch could be hf trying to taking the credit to the bank. like he said he would as scum.
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his D1 filter is also surprisingly hard to follow in general. hes also going on fairly hard about he created the rs wagon.
maybe the plan was to hard bus rs? which went horribly wrong when mderg made that list post?
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On February 13 2018 19:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:37 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 22:33 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 22:28 Koshi wrote:
There are 10 more posts in the thread about that. It has nothing to do with skimming. You are just filling your filter and not solving the game. You cannot miss all the fucking posts about this. Sigh. I agree. Really stuck on where to vote before i go to bed I was willing to give rsoultin a chance but now she is just wasting it on filter commentary. Mderg list post feels disconnected which he even comments on. Im happy with a vote on rsoultin mderg or damdred I think its good there 4 or 5 people with votes. Tug of war that is split this hard means at least one wagon is mafia in my opinion. Im going to read mderg and tina past game now to finalise vote Rsoultin mderg and prplhz are good places to plant a vote. We will probably lynch the townie out of the 3 on d1 but removing that person is fine anyway. Damdred is maybe not mafia. Some shady people are too outspoken on him. I was in a clear place here. Right before this I also said df was town and had a fit with mocsta. HF needs to go sadly.
well honestly.
the best available options are to lynch into damdy/hf. profoundly feel sad if we hit town and then lynch the other one...
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On February 13 2018 19:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Here is another thing i found. This post is from D1. Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
It's fine. You're sheeping me on rsoul so it's all good. We have to stick through this lynch though cos there's gonna be a lot of yelling and empty threats. Now the green part here is something that rsoultin very often does as mafia when people call her scum. She starts to shit up the thread with nonsense that has nothing to do with actually people being mafia or not, she just argues about completely useless points to make the arguments so annoying to read noone cares anymore. Thing to note here is that Holyflare, already at this point notices this is how rsoultin acts in certain situations. Here is a string of posts from D2 after i made a case on rsoultin: Show nested quote +On February 10 2018 08:33 rsoultin wrote:
I was expecting a reaction like this far sooner. Let's rumble!
@thread lynch me first of you have to, then lynch rayn for not soon this in the first place because he's scum, know I'm town and doesn't actually care who is scum this game.
I'll take tomorrow finding the third for y'all Show nested quote +On February 10 2018 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise. Me too, i also think rsoultin jsut started doign the thing she always does as mafia. I won't bite because i don't have time for it. Show nested quote +On February 10 2018 08:37 rsoultin wrote:On February 10 2018 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise. Me too, i also think rsoultin jsut started doign the thing she always does as mafia. I won't bite because i don't have time for it. -pokes- I'm going to bed actually. Please note folks that he only started this after I called him out for it. Show nested quote +On February 10 2018 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ah so you played the "you can never vote for me unless you are scum" -card.
Clever. Show nested quote +On February 10 2018 08:50 rsoultin wrote:
Like he literally had me as top scumread then tried to lunch df for wording but couldn't get the traction.
Here he's all about how I can't be town after day one but was pushing mocsta for something equally bs.
He's not looking to lynch his top scumread. He's looking for who he can get lynched. I'm super hard to lynch.
If I need to get lynched for you to see it I'll do so happily. Show nested quote +On February 10 2018 08:52 rsoultin wrote:On February 10 2018 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ah so you played the "you can never vote for me unless you are scum" -card.
Clever. Lol no I'm calling you out on not drinking your own coolaid. Show nested quote +On February 10 2018 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 10 2018 08:50 rsoultin wrote:
Like he literally had me as top scumread then tried to lunch df for wording but couldn't get the traction.
Here he's all about how I can't be town after day one but was pushing mocsta for something equally bs.
He's not looking to lynch his top scumread. He's looking for who he can get lynched. I'm super hard to lynch.
If I need to get lynched for you to see it I'll do so happily. Yes i realized i couldn't get traction after full 25 minutes so i had to get back to my original town lynch who btw had 5 votes over some random people having 1. I really needed that traction on df in the first place at the time, shame i couldn't get it. I call rsoultin scum, i am scum. I don't call rsoultin scum, i am scum. I should probably learn this talent that is useful in a mafia game. Should i call Koshi? I am looking for the easiest lynches yeah youre right. Like you who is super hard to lynch and Mocsta who after all voted for mafia adn thread sentiment says he is town. Those two townies are definitely my top picks to lynch as mafia, like why would i even think i could possibly lynch someone else? Yes you do. I find it extremely unlike town!Holyflare doesn't vote for rsoultin after this (which is exactly what he was already talking about during D1) happens. Extremely unlike, like 1% likely.
oh wow. did notice the green one. didnt make the connection though.
well. have yourself a sheep.
@hf:
if you are town, im sorry and will apologize by lynching damdy, stealing all the creds back from koshi and giving them to you.
On February 13 2018 19:09 Koshi wrote:
I have like a series of 10 posts in a row about mderg and rsoultin that makes me impossible mafia. People that think I am mafia are jokers
just a bit of paranoia from you buddying/pocketing me super hard like n1. =p
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On February 13 2018 19:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:I still realyl don't understand why people townread you on N1 but maybe i am just bad. You say things like: Show nested quote +On February 13 2018 08:54 disformation wrote:
igoring d1. less likely that scum did nothing and just sheeped rayn on rs. that makes conv and df look better. esp if damdy is town.
So, idk, do conv and df look like scum if damdred is town then or what?
hm. i remember being like "i should remove the 2nd sentence that makes no sense" *deleting it* "why though?" *putting it back in*
a) conv and df look better (as in more town) since they just sheeped you on rs without any resistance
b) that point holds even more true if damdy is town. because if damdy is town, hf would have made a fairly decent wagon for them to hop onto instead of rs.
of course b) doesnt matter if damdy is scum.
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On February 13 2018 19:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2018 19:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:I still realyl don't understand why people townread you on N1 but maybe i am just bad. You say things like: On February 13 2018 08:54 disformation wrote:
igoring d1. less likely that scum did nothing and just sheeped rayn on rs. that makes conv and df look better. esp if damdy is town.
So, idk, do conv and df look like scum if damdred is town then or what? Small meta thing. Disfo tends to make good posts as mafia and then goes "rawr rawr my post is so good rawr rawr" But as town he makes a good point and then instantly counters his own good point with like a supershitty point and acts like his good point isnt good anymore. It's funny.
laughing so hard rn.
yeah as town i overthink/second guess myself super fucking hard for some reason.
pretty bad habit.
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hm. it's actually 4-3 with 2 no voters. though i am not entirely sure why damdy and hf are still on df...
well hf is kinda excused.
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@koshi what happened to damdy and w0t w0s y0ur case on df agaiN? or solely your gut?
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yeah id there is a rb (likely) that. otherwise shoot prpl.
or if scum rly wants to loose they can rb rayn and shoot me.
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that great cause i don't trust myself to do anything this game.
kinda sucks that damdy isn't here. a bunch of rly good (or rly bad) posts would help to flesh this stuff out.
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dunno man.
i guess there are reasons for df (a decent case would help though) to be scum. if he is he played the claim stuff real fucking good.
holyflare is here and playing and trying and caring, but hes kinda screaming a lot of wifom at us.
damdy is mia.
shit sucks. i shall make some waffles.
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2 no voters also not really helpful.
i got like 30mins on a pc + a bit more on phone
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though. stupid question time.
why isnt hf trying to get us to lynch df if he is scum?
like wouldnt his best bet for survival just be to try and dig up bad/shady stuff on df instead screaming wifom? yeah he is voting df and seems to be on low time, but in the same time he keeps telling us to lynch damdy.
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On February 14 2018 01:14 Conversion wrote:
hmm DF made a good case on Damdred but stuck with HF and never came back
well he says at the end its prolly one of hf/damdy
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@koshi:
you df case is basically:
a) guts
b) that he didnt look like he wanted to figure out the riddle of dfs alignment
c) him falling off fairly hard
d) guts
right?
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hmmm... i remember saying that a lot of ppl had the waffles. df admitted he was one of them.
didnt he also have that "fuck my eod1 looks real bad" post?
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mh dunno. i feel like df had a handful of shady posts, but not sure if the story checks out. did he really not try to figure stuff out?
well. ill try to read whatever koshi puts on the table. no time to really look at / read a filter.
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dunno man. dont know if scum has any endgame left at all. maybe the endgame is to get 1ml and concede.
in all fairness im getting a bunch of waffles though
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hm.
Guess I am not sorry for voting you D2 damdy.
Sry for voting you D3 HF.
thanks for the phat carry town. <3
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maybe he means like "everyone called me, town but ignored my cases & good posts"?
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tbh some of the last part of d3, at least before I had to gfto, it felt a bit like rayn, hf and koshi arguing who hast the biggest case. so might see that.
not that I did help... or rly did anything. xD
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well I had fun for the most part and wasn't stressing out, so that is a plus.
just felt a bit lost at times.
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On February 14 2018 06:37 darthfoley wrote:
Also shout out to disformation for coming into a game and picking up as if he was playing the whole time. I guess it's a bit easier when Rels doesn't actually post anything, but still
well. as I commented in the game. not actually have been there d1 caused a bit of a disconnect I think. mixed up some d1 stuff multiple times. but thanks <3
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damdy we need to roll the same alignment more often. feel like we are on opposing teams a lot.
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though not sure how much I can play. kinda depends on the deadline and how busy work is.
also hard to actually play on the weekend when you have finally time to do all the other things you really want or need to do.
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yeah i think that is why artanis mentioned post restriction imo. cause more time just means the active ones are posting more. post restriction might provide an incentive for me to think more before posting, but I also can see how post restriction can be a huge turn off.
edit: think i wouldnt mind trying something like rayn suggested. but fyi: will be on a two week vacation in two weeks, so i'll prolly wait until after that to play again.
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