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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 09 2018 11:48 GMT
#1561
You shouldn't even joke.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 09 2018 11:49 GMT
#1562
That's kind of ruined the game in fact.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 11:51 GMT
#1563
On February 09 2018 20:49 Holyflare wrote:
That's kind of ruined the game in fact.
how so. it was an adaption of the EoD post?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 11:56 GMT
#1564
Why did Mocsta just post a PM? Fake or not. Wasn’t that against the rules? Weird play..
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 11:59 GMT
#1565
On February 09 2018 20:56 Conversion wrote:
Why did Mocsta just post a PM? Fake or not. Wasn’t that against the rules? Weird play..
its only against the rules if the same from the host.

Get over it

This is what brings you to thread. Pfft
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 12:00 GMT
#1566
On February 09 2018 12:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 12:35 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 12:15 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 12:09 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:56 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:47 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:38 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:16 Conversion wrote:
[quote]

I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3


i dont understand? i thought you had aome aolid scum reads you wanted to pursue even if you arent here anyway, or is prp your top scum now.


I’ll leave people figuring you or rayn out to other people. prpl is not memorable and I did a quick check with his Simple game and it gave me scum vibes. That’s the extent of the read


i understand that rsoultin kind of goaded youbinto staying pact on her, but you were really not liming mderg/prp. Can you take me through not changing and staying pact?


The entirety of D1 was me trying to get some bad habits out of my play (too much OMGUS/spammy emotional filter, hence HF’s cheeky cyborg Conversion comment) and another one was my super waffley nature when scum reading people. Waffley nature came out anyways as I got nervous about my vote as it seemed rsoultin was looking better than mderg, so I let it be transparent in the thread that I was not confident. rsoultin goaded me, I guess, but it more served a reminder that I wanted to improve my game, even by a little bit. So I stayed.


Ok, can you take me through why tina was making you feel better before her string of bad posts. I thinl you were absent when both of them decided to vote not each other?


I really disliked mderg’s response to my prodding at him then rsoultin’s. Rsoultin at one point said “ok my play before this was bad, and I will try to start new.” which I feel like I have and would do if I was town.

Mderg’s was just a passively dismissive attitude and I just really disliked it


Ok, what do you think of tina now?


I’d have to revisit her filter but I don’t remember her doing anyhig memorable? Although that’s just more me zoning out than not.

I cannot fathom a mderg + rsoultin mafia team playing that horribly before EoD, but I guess it is not impossible


Ok heres whatbim gwtting at.

You start with a hard enough scum read on tina to want to lynch her, she then wants ti start over which is enough to get you to move your read and just narrow to prp/mderg, rsoultin convinces you to stay on her by calling out your waffles.

You then during the night call tina town, amd have scum between me/rayn/prp, and now dont have an opinion of her but keeping the option open with the last sentence here for a scum read.

So I know you say youve zoned out especially over being angry. But can you explain it to me what im not seeing or misunderstanding because it seems strange?


I don’t see me being unclear. A rsoultin + mderg team would mean that mafia played that EoD horribly, which is why I am less incluned to believe that she is mafia. However, that’s under the assumption that mafia is playing ideally. I know for sure that would have bitten me in the ass when you bussed your partner with Zen had you not gotten mod killed— which is why I am leaving this option as a possibility.

You of all people should know that I tend to keep possibilities open whether they make sense or not. In our coached thread I considered tens of options and doubted myself even though I might have been on the right track and kept questioning what was right or not.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 12:00 GMT
#1567
On February 09 2018 20:59 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 20:56 Conversion wrote:
Why did Mocsta just post a PM? Fake or not. Wasn’t that against the rules? Weird play..
its only against the rules if the same from the host.

Get over it

This is what brings you to thread. Pfft


I just woke up you kangaroo.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 12:01 GMT
#1568
On February 09 2018 17:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 11:38 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:16 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:52 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:46 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:43 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:39 Conversion wrote:
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?


Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.


Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm


idk, who would you want to lynch eoght now after everything that was said so far conversion?


I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3


i dont understand? i thought you had aome aolid scum reads you wanted to pursue even if you arent here anyway, or is prp your top scum now.


I’ll leave people figuring you or rayn out to other people. prpl is not memorable and I did a quick check with his Simple game and it gave me scum vibes. That’s the extent of the read

Be a hero tomorrow and decide between rayn and prplhz. I think those will be the main choices.


I’m going to end up sheeping you most likely, so probably.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 12:02 GMT
#1569
On February 09 2018 21:00 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 20:59 Mocsta wrote:
On February 09 2018 20:56 Conversion wrote:
Why did Mocsta just post a PM? Fake or not. Wasn’t that against the rules? Weird play..
its only against the rules if the same from the host.

Get over it

This is what brings you to thread. Pfft


I just woke up you kangaroo.
good morning to you too

Apologies if in your filter but do you think one of hf and rayn MUST be acum?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 12:04 GMT
#1570
On February 09 2018 21:00 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 12:44 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 12:35 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 12:15 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 12:09 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:56 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:47 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:38 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:20 Damdred wrote:
[quote]

i dont understand? i thought you had aome aolid scum reads you wanted to pursue even if you arent here anyway, or is prp your top scum now.


I’ll leave people figuring you or rayn out to other people. prpl is not memorable and I did a quick check with his Simple game and it gave me scum vibes. That’s the extent of the read


i understand that rsoultin kind of goaded youbinto staying pact on her, but you were really not liming mderg/prp. Can you take me through not changing and staying pact?


The entirety of D1 was me trying to get some bad habits out of my play (too much OMGUS/spammy emotional filter, hence HF’s cheeky cyborg Conversion comment) and another one was my super waffley nature when scum reading people. Waffley nature came out anyways as I got nervous about my vote as it seemed rsoultin was looking better than mderg, so I let it be transparent in the thread that I was not confident. rsoultin goaded me, I guess, but it more served a reminder that I wanted to improve my game, even by a little bit. So I stayed.


Ok, can you take me through why tina was making you feel better before her string of bad posts. I thinl you were absent when both of them decided to vote not each other?


I really disliked mderg’s response to my prodding at him then rsoultin’s. Rsoultin at one point said “ok my play before this was bad, and I will try to start new.” which I feel like I have and would do if I was town.

Mderg’s was just a passively dismissive attitude and I just really disliked it


Ok, what do you think of tina now?


I’d have to revisit her filter but I don’t remember her doing anyhig memorable? Although that’s just more me zoning out than not.

I cannot fathom a mderg + rsoultin mafia team playing that horribly before EoD, but I guess it is not impossible


Ok heres whatbim gwtting at.

You start with a hard enough scum read on tina to want to lynch her, she then wants ti start over which is enough to get you to move your read and just narrow to prp/mderg, rsoultin convinces you to stay on her by calling out your waffles.

You then during the night call tina town, amd have scum between me/rayn/prp, and now dont have an opinion of her but keeping the option open with the last sentence here for a scum read.

So I know you say youve zoned out especially over being angry. But can you explain it to me what im not seeing or misunderstanding because it seems strange?


I don’t see me being unclear. A rsoultin + mderg team would mean that mafia played that EoD horribly, which is why I am less incluned to believe that she is mafia. However, that’s under the assumption that mafia is playing ideally. I know for sure that would have bitten me in the ass when you bussed your partner with Zen had you not gotten mod killed— which is why I am leaving this option as a possibility.

You of all people should know that I tend to keep possibilities open whether they make sense or not. In our coached thread I considered tens of options and doubted myself even though I might have been on the right track and kept questioning what was right or not.
shut.. thats a good point about bussing

In last game. I think it was damdred talking about himself. Anyways said that as scum he LOVES to bus.
So mderf vote would line up well.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 12:06 GMT
#1571
On February 09 2018 21:02 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 21:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 20:59 Mocsta wrote:
On February 09 2018 20:56 Conversion wrote:
Why did Mocsta just post a PM? Fake or not. Wasn’t that against the rules? Weird play..
its only against the rules if the same from the host.

Get over it

This is what brings you to thread. Pfft


I just woke up you kangaroo.
good morning to you too

Apologies if in your filter but do you think one of hf and rayn MUST be acum?


It is not in my filter. I do not think so. My confidence in damdred/rayn/prplhz is that either Damdred or prplhz is scum, not rayn. If Damdred and prplhz returns town, then yes.

I think that objectively speaking Rels slot, my slot, and DF slot should be the most suspicious. HF looks and feels town and I really doubt he would pass the chance to hammer rsoultin with someone if he was scum with mderg. Also in the realm of really poor mafia play.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 12:09 GMT
#1572
Im ok with your slot.
In retrospect of trfel analysis and reading eod1 again. I think your uncertainty to vote mderg is fine.

I cant remember anything disinfo has done since night1 which isnt a good thing.
Gonna focus there tomorrow.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 12:12 GMT
#1573
I know its subjective. But if df is scum. Hes really changed it up over 2 games in 3 weeks.

Like hes pocketed me not by being nice or agreeing with me. But treating me like absolute shit lol

I really cant see him doing that as scum. At least not over other potentials.

Perhaps rels slot is the best option then.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 09 2018 12:31 GMT
#1574
pretty sure town!rayn pushed other towns for similar stuff before. so i am not too sure on that one.
@mocsta: n1 was like literally yesterday and were are not even halfway into the day? your post on ritoky earlier was also pretty much my read on him (just in better wording), so i still feel my content should be good from your pov. you also didnt like rayn's point on me and think rayn is scum?
dont blame you for not trusting rels slot, but i am not sure what you are trying to do here.
also i think i would have bombed myself instead of posting the pm.
also reminds me that i really would like to have a post from ritoky on damdred soonish.

also when you say best option.
does that make me a better option than rayn or damdred? or is it like damdy > rayn > me? damdy > me > rayn?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 09 2018 12:32 GMT
#1575
On February 09 2018 20:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you, Koshi, think i would defend a lynchbait'y Damdred and try to instead lynch someone who is basically unlynchable, as mafia, then you are the dumbest person on the planet. So there is that.

Says the person who wants to lynch mocsta and said mderg was town.

And I only think you would do it if damdred is mafia. But that doesnt mean the thought didnt cross my mind.
I had a good night of sleep.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 09 2018 12:35 GMT
#1576
Day Two Vote Count


Damdred (3): Holyflare, Mocsta, Koshi
Mosta (1): raynpelikoneet

Not Voting (7): Damdred, ritoky, darthfoley, Rels, Conversion, prplhz, rsoultin,

Damdred is currently the designated lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, Feb 10 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .

(Reminder: you may not vote yourself)


"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 09 2018 12:36 GMT
#1577
If Damdred isnt mafia I would go with df and prplhz.

disformation his analysis is wayyyyyy too good to come from town. Not only is the content good. Where he is looking is most excellent as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 09 2018 12:36 GMT
#1578
On February 09 2018 21:36 Koshi wrote:
If Damdred isnt mafia I would go with df and prplhz.

disformation his analysis is wayyyyyy too good to come from mafia. Not only is the content good. Where he is looking is most excellent as well.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 09 2018 12:43 GMT
#1579
On February 09 2018 21:12 Mocsta wrote:
I know its subjective. But if df is scum. Hes really changed it up over 2 games in 3 weeks.

Like hes pocketed me not by being nice or agreeing with me. But treating me like absolute shit lol

I really cant see him doing that as scum. At least not over other potentials.

Perhaps rels slot is the best option then.

I am actually more sure he is mafia over damdred. I made a mistake defending him yesterday.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 09 2018 12:44 GMT
#1580
implying my analysis is usually pretty bleh as town. =p
not gonna lie, if we both end up being alive on like a D5 I will squint at you real paranoid like.
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