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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:11 GMT
#553
On February 07 2018 19:02 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 18:46 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 18:40 Mocsta wrote:
EQ = Emotional equivalent of IQ

i have no issue with Ritoky at this point.
I think hes honest with not playing like this before and being to the point.

Would be a 1 or 2 on the ritoky scale.


This was how I was interpreting EQ as well, to be clear. Yes he called me the equivalent of emotionally stupid in his scum QT. That sort of thing sticks in my memory.
I most certainly did not (or intended it to be taken that way). I will PM you about this after the game.

For fucks sake. I opened my case with how much I respect your play.


Lol, it's okay. I took it as constructive criticism, then promptly forgot the moment we started playing. It really is an issue of mine, so I don't mind it being said. It's just why I find it weird that after recognizing how bad I am at these things, enough to actually comment on it in QT, you proceed to post references to things that Holyflare literally said which tilted me last game. Not cool if you're town, bro.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:11 GMT
#555
On February 07 2018 19:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
darthfoley is mafia nad i encourage everyone to vote for him.
please.


Could do, but I'm still digging.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:14 GMT
#556
On February 07 2018 19:05 ritoky wrote:
yeah i don't really think he is mafia at all, so not doing that.


Because of townreading Rels? I mean, I understand why you think it might be...I forget the word...angling? Hold on, let me pop back into the DF filter.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:20 GMT
#562
On February 07 2018 19:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 19:05 ritoky wrote:
yeah i don't really think he is mafia at all, so not doing that.


Because of townreading Rels? I mean, I understand why you think it might be...I forget the word...angling? Hold on, let me pop back into the DF filter.


Nh. I don't know. It kind of seems like you're assuming an inexplicable townread comes from that with no basis in fact. Other than maybe his unwilligness to elaborate.

Which is weird, really. If he was angling and you already publically identified it, why would he feel the need to keep it secret?

More to the point, it's Rels. He is French. And I know that I've seen him make posts like that before. (Thought he did in Newbie, but I guess I was wrong.) It's possible that darthfoley read into it I suppose but...meh. I just don't find this theory as compelling as the rest of his filter, even if it's technically possible.

You mentioned tone before. Are those two reasons your main reasons for townreading him?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:20 GMT
#563
On February 07 2018 19:20 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 19:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:05 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley

the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable.

no. not a suitable day1 vote.

Damdred all the way
I am also at the point of wanting to read a prplhz scum game again

i dont like at all he predicted town rayn/rsoultin early on.

now you are getting bad points for doing something that hasn't anything to do with alignments.
excuse me? what is not alignment indicative?


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On February 07 2018 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me.
and.. you are 1 vote of 13. get used to ppl not sucking you off.



o.0 Mocsta, dude, where is this coming from? Take a chill pill.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:24 GMT
#567
On February 07 2018 19:20 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 19:14 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:05 ritoky wrote:
yeah i don't really think he is mafia at all, so not doing that.


Because of townreading Rels? I mean, I understand why you think it might be...I forget the word...angling? Hold on, let me pop back into the DF filter.


Nh. I don't know. It kind of seems like you're assuming an inexplicable townread comes from that with no basis in fact. Other than maybe his unwilligness to elaborate.

Which is weird, really. If he was angling and you already publically identified it, why would he feel the need to keep it secret?

More to the point, it's Rels. He is French. And I know that I've seen him make posts like that before. (Thought he did in Newbie, but I guess I was wrong.) It's possible that darthfoley read into it I suppose but...meh. I just don't find this theory as compelling as the rest of his filter, even if it's technically possible.

You mentioned tone before. Are those two reasons your main reasons for townreading him?


:/ You're not supposed to leave, ritoky.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:25 GMT
#570
Eh, I need to do a few things but will be back later. It's already 11:30.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:26 GMT
#572
On February 07 2018 19:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 18:55 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually no i dnot care about anything other than this.

Who were you fiter diving Tina? which ppl and why?


I'm literally just going down the player list, rayn. Looking at DF right now, but I think I need to read the truffle comments on him because I don't remember them well and it's a big point in his filter.

Not that that really matters.

I think that I was having trouble seeing the forest for the trees because I was too focused on myself this game, which is my bad. It's not the first time that's happened, but I understand why people don't remember what I'm like when being scumread; it's been years. So I'm trying to go back through more objectively. For what that's worth.


No, it was you Rayn, not truffle. Misread that because he was talking all about truffle before.

Some individual posts from darth foley still tonally resonate with me as being pretty fuck the world I'm gonna do what I want, but his filter in general actually reads more angry and defensive than I remember. I also don't like how he's mostly just scumreading people who are scumreading him after the initial scumreads on both myself and mocsta. To be fair, I actually think the original scumreads on mocsta and myself are okay given his last game and the buss that went on there. But scumreading whoever scumreads him (truffle, rayn) was exactly what he did as scum in Newbie.


Lol, rayn, you keep doing this.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:26 GMT
#573
On February 07 2018 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
youve been doing it for like 2 hours-.


It's already done? And I've also been responding to what's going on here. Calm down please.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:29 GMT
#577
On February 07 2018 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gg then
#unvote darthfoley
##vote rsoultin


afk, work.


Seriously? I mean, it's fine to lynch me anyway if that's what you need to get untunneled, but it feels like you're doing it over a misunderstanding or I don't even understand this reaction from you.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:30 GMT
#579
Okay, well, whatever lol >< I still need to reread Joni's filter anyway. Will be back this afternoon.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 12:41 GMT
#634
On February 07 2018 21:32 darthfoley wrote:
maybe I like rayn again


I'm tempted to sit on you because of ritoky. Your reads still seem to change based on others' reads on you, though. Or at least on people scumreading you. That resembles your scum play to me. If you have town games that show you kinda OMGUS your way through games, could you link one of them, please? I'll follow up eventually if I don't get lynched today, but my bruised ego would prefer a tidy collection of correct reads to leave town with, and I doubt I'll have the time before deadline to pursue that avenue.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 12:44 GMT
#635
On February 07 2018 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or mby you should wait until d2 and lynch unccd vigilante who shot mafia because someone talked about sk. That would make my day.


What did you disagree with on my darth foley read? You asked for my filter dive on him (demanded it actually), I quoted where I'd already given it just as I quoted the ritoky posts that had me reading his game as fluid that I'd already given to holyflare when you asked, and you insta-voted me.

So either you have a problem with my read that I'd like explained, or you didn't realize I was quoting where I'd already answered what you were asking for.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 12:50 GMT
#636
-snorts- I don't know why I ever thought Conversion looked scummy. I'm stupid apparently. Probably more liking where truffle was coming from and not thinking about Conversion's alignment clearly.

There's still the claiming to be caught up but not and slight contradictions, but I don't think that's very alignment indicative in this case. It's kind of bad but his case on me is probably the biggest thing that makes him more likely town in my eyes.

Not bothering with Rels.

Neither of these two should be lynched today.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 12:58 GMT
#642
On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley

the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable.


I'm not a big fan of Joni's townread on mderg or the fact that he was (is?) scumreading ritoky for the same reason that I was, but honestly this post probably makes him town. That and I'm generally not getting the 'scream until my target is lynched' vibe that I normally get from a scum Joni - he's still pushing, but taking the time to prod. Caveat here is he knows how I read him and has catered to that before. Caveat to the caveat is if he were scum here he could push me until the cows come home with no one listening to my trying to say he's scum for not involving people, and no one else seems to have that read nailed down on him. So. Still pretty sure he's town. Just being Joni.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 12:59 GMT
#643
On February 07 2018 21:51 Koshi wrote:
Ofc Rels should be up for lynch...


In the absence of anyone scummy, sure. I don't make a habit of lynching an afk Rels on D1 because, as you said with Damdred, he can turn into a butterfly.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 13:04 GMT
#644
On February 07 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 21:50 rsoultin wrote:
-snorts- I don't know why I ever thought Conversion looked scummy. I'm stupid apparently. Probably more liking where truffle was coming from and not thinking about Conversion's alignment clearly.

There's still the claiming to be caught up but not and slight contradictions, but I don't think that's very alignment indicative in this case. It's kind of bad but his case on me is probably the biggest thing that makes him more likely town in my eyes.

Not bothering with Rels.

Neither of these two should be lynched today.


The funny thing is that nobody understands why you even thought conversion was mafia to begin with because you didn't say a thing. So why did you find him scummy?


Mostly just inconsistencies and nodding my head to Truffle's posts which gave me warm fuzzies at the time. I was a shameful sheeple.

It wasn't my strongest read at the time. Thus pursuing ritoky. However, ritoky addressed some of my concerns and then Conversion comes to the thread echoing a sentiment you'd just posted...something about me not doing anything about my scumreads. Then posted that well I'd poked at ritoky but that didn't mean anything because he didn't see what I'd gotten from it. Maybe it was an emotional reaction at the time, but it looked to me like he hadn't actually read what I'd posted since he'd left, then realized his mistake and posted to acknolwedge it before he could be called out on it, but still stick to his read.

In effect, though, even if that's true it still could have come from town. I'm just bad.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 13:16 GMT
#647
Pending on you, koshi. It skeeves me out a little that you're focused on lynchbait and right on my alignment where most everyone else is wrong. I know you've picked your scum game up recently.

But I can see where you're coming from on your prp lynch and it really comes down to whether or not 1) I agree that all the active people are more likely town or at least have a decent shot at it or 2) that it makes sense for you to think that.

Also, could you explain this? I think you said it was about df and why rayn scumreads him, but I'm not following at all:

On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 13:25 GMT
#651
On February 07 2018 22:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 22:16 rsoultin wrote:
Pending on you, koshi. It skeeves me out a little that you're focused on lynchbait and right on my alignment where most everyone else is wrong. I know you've picked your scum game up recently.

But I can see where you're coming from on your prp lynch and it really comes down to whether or not 1) I agree that all the active people are more likely town or at least have a decent shot at it or 2) that it makes sense for you to think that.

Also, could you explain this? I think you said it was about df and why rayn scumreads him, but I'm not following at all:

On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.


If you cant follow it you are not reading the thread. It is rayn is nr 1 reason to scumread df and he explained it.

And I already explained this very post to mocsta as well. And on top of that df answered me already.

I cant help blind people in a forum mafia game. This is just pathetic.


On February 07 2018 20:07 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:47 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.


Regarding mderg, I've made a few posts already about how disconnected he is in the game. It's actually one of the biggest question marks I have on rayn and HF. For so long they railed on me for "not being involved in the game" while seemingly ignoring mderg who has been around to post but hasn't.

This reason especially comes off as a bad reason to townread Mocsta. I think you could Town read Mocsta for a few reasons that I could buy as genuine beliefs, but I have not thought to myself, "you know what, Mocsta really knows where he's going this game." It almost feels like a TMI spew town read if mderg flips mafia


^ I thought your post was in response to this post and had no clue as to why it got that reaction from you, even reading the discussion.

But I suppose it must have been in response to this one posted just before that?

On February 07 2018 20:03 darthfoley wrote:
@ritoky

I was angle shooting

Also rayn's big "gotcha" moment doesn't make sense. A scum slip is when people say "I believe am I Town" not "I am Town and I believe your arguments are incorrect." But now were just talking semantics


So disregard. Dangers of skimming.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 13:27 GMT
#653
On February 07 2018 22:23 Koshi wrote:
You have to not have read 7-10 posts to not understand the post...

Explain to me in extreme detail why prplhz is town or "ok" for you. I want to completely understand it.


There's not much to completely understand. I didn't think there was anything particularly alignment indicative in what he'd posted, which is why I asked you (if I recall correctly) for your read on him.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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