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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 20:34 GMT
#896
Note in general I tend to shy away from role setup talks because I do not understand/know/have played with a lot of mafia roles and set ups. Like that one time scum!darthfoley slipped the watcher role mistake and I had no idea it was a mistake. That was quite embarrassing for me.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 20:41 GMT
#900
On February 08 2018 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
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On February 08 2018 05:31 Conversion wrote:
I am back from my meeting. I am glad it was shorter than intended.

I am also happy that we flipped mafia, however I guess I might look bad for waffling at the end. I'm not sure if people pointed that out yet.

I am questioning why HF thinks I am typing like a mafia person. This is the second time he has mentioned it. I am trying out a new play style that does not involve me being a drama queen, maybe that is why? Are you going to set up for my mislynch later on in the game?

I have some notes written based on rsoultin/mderg flip. I will share the relevant one. Not sure how meaningful it is.

+ Show Spoiler [mderg flips scum notes] +

Mderg flips mafia: Now this is the case I am rather interested in. That would mean the nagging feeling I had in my head that he seemed almost eerily similar to his Newbie game means that he was manufacturing his town play. So why not just hammer rsoultin to save himself? This was the weird play... for me, if I am town, I will
rabidly try to save myself (as I did in a game with Koshi when I lynched Chezinu), because the only certainty I have and know is that I am 100% town, and I will avoid town mislynching me at all costs. His play seemed more like I will not save myself.. for some reason. I will need to look into what role he flips to see if the possibility
of saving rsoultin is there, as she can be a more powerful role? Who knows. I'd most likely poke at rayn more here on his thought process on why we shouldn't lynch mderg or prplhz.


You just answer yourself. The problem I have with you is that you sound exactly like a robot. No emotions, really odd phrasing and rigid.


Fair point. I did come into this game knowing there would be upsides and downsides to this playstyle. I will let my posting in the future days prove whether I am mafia or town instead of discussing it any further.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 20:52 GMT
#908
@HF Cheeky.

On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
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On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though


Firstly, welcome! I think you are the one person back in whatever game I played that pointed out my peacing out to play Path of Exile. I forget which game.

I do not see the relevance in having reads spilled out into the thread and being town. I do have other reads, I just did not feel them important enough to share with the thread and attempt to look like I am padding my filter. My thought process is, in my opinion, very transparent aside from that.. Mderg and prpl reads were blatantly sheeped from Koshi. Should be in my filter somewhere.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 21:05 GMT
#912
On February 08 2018 06:02 disformation wrote:
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On February 08 2018 05:52 Conversion wrote:
@HF Cheeky.

On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though


Firstly, welcome! I think you are the one person back in whatever game I played that pointed out my peacing out to play Path of Exile. I forget which game.

I do not see the relevance in having reads spilled out into the thread and being town. I do have other reads, I just did not feel them important enough to share with the thread and attempt to look like I am padding my filter. My thought process is, in my opinion, very transparent aside from that.. Mderg and prpl reads were blatantly sheeped from Koshi. Should be in my filter somewhere.

hm how aware are you of trying to look like not padding your filter?^^
maybe is should learn that skill.
thinking of it.
i thought your waffles on mderg, or rather you not voting mderg, looks okay cause you actually went and looked at his posts from the nsm. though there is ofc the possibility that mderg would have let you know about that, if you are/were partners.


Past games I would have a near 10 page filter by the end of D1. I figured that wasn't good play from me, so I'm trying to refine it. Hence, I am very aware and trying to bleed town as much as possible from my posts, without spamming the thread as much to get it.

My question to you would be: If I am scum (essentially making scum team mderg/Conversion/+1), who would be the last one?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 22:43 GMT
#981
I am town. That is my defense.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 23:24 GMT
#1020
On February 08 2018 07:48 Holyflare wrote:
Don't get me wrong cyborg conversion, you're playing a great game but I just miss the old conversion you know?




I am town, Koshi. Get off your tunnel. You ate shit last game, you will eat shit again.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 23:40 GMT
#1037
alright I give up. I’m AFK voting myself D2 and moving on.

gg gl town
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 23:40 GMT
#1039
^ old conversion there for you HF. gl
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 23:42 GMT
#1042
On February 08 2018 08:41 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 08 2018 08:40 Conversion wrote:
alright I give up. I’m AFK voting myself D2 and moving on.

gg gl town

kk

##bomb: Conversion


This is the best option since I give up and we’ll waste D2 figuring if I’m mafia or not
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 23:42 GMT
#1043
which I’m not
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 23:48 GMT
#1046
On February 08 2018 08:46 Damdred wrote:
Koshi you usually can read me pretty well, is it juat our disagrement about tinas alignment at this point?

@conversion baby boy come back and play. Do as your papa damdred says or you get the wood later.


no
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 23:58 GMT
#1054
On February 08 2018 08:53 Trfel wrote:
Conversion I have no idea what's going on but regardless of alignment I've enjoyed interacting with you. Both while I was suspicious of you and also when we were talking about rsoultin and others. Its up to you I guess but if you do afk I at least will miss talking to you.


nah I’m not in the mood to have people dogshit pile on me and fight and uphill battle on day2 because all of a sudden people think I’m mafia for no reason. ***drama queen***

gl mate that’s my last post. D1 was fun. focus D2 on figuring out who is mafia that’s not me

policy lynch me for afking and raging though
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 08 2018 01:52 GMT
#1072
if you’re actually mad hatter who gives a shit about your opinion to lynch me. either way build your case out to scoping a possibility where I flip town and you have to find +2 mafia because your big post will be garbage the moment I do
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 08 2018 02:21 GMT
#1073
Alright I'm done with that.

In pure OMGUS fashion, I will be focusing on casing the people who suddenly thought it opportunistic to turn on me after mderg flip.

The list will be constructed and I will be posting my thoughts here. I will keep to my word and vote myself at the very least, because I think this town needs to wake the fuck up and get me out of the way in order to progress with the game.

The list is as followed-- people who townread me who suddenly want me lynched:

Koshi
Mocsta

Cool. I'm spending the majority of my effort on why both of you are straight trash in calling me mafia over the next few hours, and why you not exploring the idea of me not being mafia is also trash and why you're ruining town's chances of winning after a D1 mafia lynch by being complete garbage that belongs in a landfill.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 08 2018 02:24 GMT
#1074
note: I am not saying that you two are mafia in these cases, just why your sudden turn in trying to paint me scum is literal GARBAGE. If I didn't stress that point enough.

G A R B A G E
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 08 2018 02:34 GMT
#1075
Why you shouldn't believe Koshi on why I am mafia:

Most likely the most arrogant and tunneled town player I have ever played with. He is obviously a very good player, so he owns it very well. The problem with Koshi is when he's wrong, he will never admit he's wrong. Which is good for town when he has his read right (MS Paint game when he was judge, Mocsta mafia last game, whatever other games this guy has because I can't be fucking bothered to meta filter dive anymore). However, he is bullheaded on a worse level than drunk angry rayn, even when he is so clearly wrong.

Now this long preface was written because I am still incredibly salty that someone who claims he is literal Jesus in this game called Mafia can't get over the fact that I AM NOT MAFIA when he reads me as such. Like last game. He spent every moment he could spare on top of solving the game calling me mafia, including me in a list, and then suddenly turning on me and having me flip town.

+ Show Spoiler [Long quote chain on why Koshi reading…] +

On December 13 2017 04:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2017 08:13 prplhz wrote:
On December 12 2017 08:11 Arya321 wrote:
BTW Setup talk is a dumb thnig to speculate now since we should just focus on pure scum hunting.

Setup talking is sometimes a good way to scum hunt as town and scum sometimes think differently about it. Scum hunting off of a couple of "Hi"-posts is unlikely to yield results, no?

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On December 12 2017 08:14 Conversion wrote:
On December 12 2017 08:11 Arya321 wrote:
BTW Setup talk is a dumb thnig to speculate now since we should just focus on pure scum hunting.


this isn't a great post. of course we should scum hunt, but that doesn't mean setup talk isn't scum hunting

also there's like 1 page of content, so we can't really do much else until people bleed in

Bad posts
It was a mafia bait post from Arya. Easy to critisize without risking looking bad.


On December 13 2017 04:33 Koshi wrote:
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On December 12 2017 12:21 Conversion wrote:
On December 12 2017 12:16 Arya321 wrote:
On December 12 2017 12:04 Conversion wrote:
On December 12 2017 12:00 darthfoley wrote:
On December 12 2017 11:35 Conversion wrote:
you won last game


I did. It was not as glorious as advertised


ya but why would you tell people palmar led "us" to utter defeat last game, when you won?

i think he means he led town to utter defeat? Just not worded right I think.


from someone who would point out my usage of a nonexistent word (irregardless), I'm going to not give him the benefit of the doubt on wording something poorly. DF knew what he was typing-- a rather poor attempt to joke around and look townie by saying Palmar led "us" to defeat. I also asked DF, not you for your interpretation

why aren't you pressing anyone even with some new entrances/some content to buzz around for someone who seems so eager about scumhunting?


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On December 12 2017 12:33 Conversion wrote:
I'm saying it's a bad statement to make to try and look unnecessarily townie. if that makes him scum, idk yet.

ya I'm pretty tired too and no one else seems to be entertaining me US-wise so might get some zzz


Many things are happening in the thread. Conversion is focusing on 1 thing and I don't like that thing.


On December 13 2017 05:07 Koshi wrote:
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On December 13 2017 01:26 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know how to read VE.

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On December 13 2017 01:26 Conversion wrote:
also agree with VE there. it's not surprising his mind changed after I discussed it with him. seems kind of a forced read IMO.

I don't like you at all.


On December 13 2017 05:12 Koshi wrote:
1) Forumite - Forgot his posts. Saw some things. Need to filter.
2) Grackaroni - Is refusing to let us read him.
3) DarthFoley - Town because his posts read genuine.
4) Holyflare - Meh
5) Conversion - Mafia lean
6) Oatsmaster - Probably town I think. Mainly due to Conversion and VE talking about him.
7) VisceraEyes - Mafia lean
8) Chezinu - Not a prior atm. If you are a vig feel free.
10) prphlz - Town
11) Eversince - afk
12) Ayra321 - Town
13) Kmatt - Townish
14) Palmar - Is fine.


On December 13 2017 05:17 Koshi wrote:
So we are here:

Town:
DarthFoley
Oatsmaster
prphlz
Ayra321
Kmatt
Palmar

Don't lynch them today:
Forumite
Holyflare

Shoot them but don't lynch them D1:
Chezinu
Grack

Lynch:
VE
Conversion


On December 13 2017 05:22 Koshi wrote:
##Vote Conversion


I am voting Conversion over VE because VE is drawing more attention to himself with his "odd" play. I am not yet sure if the "odd" play from VE is him being really bad at blending in as mafia pushing ideas or that he is just playing worse than his previous game.

Conversion is making posts but didn't even once draw attention to him or made a post that would cause a wave making it easier for him to solve the game. If he is town, he disappointed me the most so far. So I am going to assume he is mafia struggling to show some genuine thoughts combined with thread progression.


On December 13 2017 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Palmar I need you to type me a big post talking about Conversion. If you do so this game will become easier for us to solve. After that feel free to do one liners and random stuff. But I need to read something smart from you on Conversion. But more importantly, I need to read a lot of words from you talking about Conversion.


On December 13 2017 05:28 Koshi wrote:
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On December 13 2017 00:59 Palmar wrote:
I think Conversion is town. I also think Arya is town. I have a feeling prplhz is town.

I think forumite is mafia for asking a stupid question. I think VE may be mafia because he spent way too much time talking himself into voting me.

If Conversion is mafia.
If VE is town
and if forumite is town

this is a bad post.

Because Conversion is being protected here with no basis except by add 2 more townreads. Conversion early game was not town. The other 2 I can see.

forumite is mafia lynch bait of choice if town.

And VE is being odd and out there. No doubt and an easy catch.




That being said. I still potentially like you Palmar. Your latest posts were just really underwhelming. You need to give the thread some candy.


On December 13 2017 05:31 Koshi wrote:
Conversion is our best bet atm.


On December 13 2017 06:52 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 00:52 prplhz wrote:
I literally don't have a read.

Maybe Conversion is town for doing a lot of meta analysis that kind of led nowhere.



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On December 13 2017 00:59 Palmar wrote:
I think Conversion is town. I also think Arya is town. I have a feeling prplhz is town.

I think forumite is mafia for asking a stupid question. I think VE may be mafia because he spent way too much time talking himself into voting me.


This also looks bad for Palmar. I really need to know why Conversion is town.
Looks like mafia!Palmar adopted a read from the thread because it is his scumbuddy.


But then again. I am quite convinced conversion is mafia. If he isn't. I am being very wrong.


On December 13 2017 07:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2017 05:17 Koshi wrote:
So we are here:

Town:
DarthFoley
Oatsmaster
prphlz
Ayra321
Kmatt
Palmar

Don't lynch them today:
Forumite
Holyflare

Shoot them but don't lynch them D1:
Chezinu
Grack

Lynch:
VE
Conversion


I think this is my new list. Town is on top. It isn't perfectly in order but close enough. Especially second to sixth place is pretty random.

DarthFoley
Oatsmaster
prphlz
VE
Ayra321
Kmatt
Grack
Forumite
Holyflare
Eversince
Chezinu
Palmar
Conversion


On December 13 2017 09:16 Koshi wrote:
I am just going to sit here and hope somebody enters this game with a fresh view. Who is able to peak my interest.

Atm too many lost townies. I hope they follow my lead and lynch conversion.

But second on list Palmar isnt that bad either. I have such high hopes for him. But he didnt deliver once more


On December 13 2017 09:20 Koshi wrote:
PS2: I found conversion first. No diggity, no doubt


On December 13 2017 09:27 Koshi wrote:
woe hf is so sure conversion is mafia he is trying to steal the kred


On December 13 2017 19:01 Koshi wrote:
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On December 13 2017 09:48 Arya321 wrote:
Just got home from my final I saw that HF is stealing some credit about pushing Conversion even though Koshi and DF were doing it first. DF and Koshi are town I think from the interactions they had while I was gone. Also HF think's I am lightningstrike for whatever reason even though I am not him or her nor do I know him or her >.>
@Koshi what you current reads on Palmar and HF
@HF What you think of KMatt and his attempted push on Chezinu?

The problem with veteran players is that they can play good as either alignment. I think Conversion is still the best bet for town. Both palmar and hf didnt do anything to change that.



Now, you don't have to look through that spoiler tag. Because it is the same garbage Koshi is spouting this game. That I am mafia, because it fits his agenda and his ideal view of the game. But that is garbage solely because of this post right here from Simple Mafia:

On December 19 2017 04:09 Koshi wrote:
Conversion I am not going to lie.
But either you play EXTREMELY scummy as town. Or you are just mafia.


How can you PoE Kmatt and then he is suddenly town? Again both times without any justification. (to progress the thread)
And there are many many instances in your filter like that.


So this literal mafia Jesus cannot get over his fact that he will never be able to cleanly town read me, because I never cleanly play as town. In his mafia Jesus head. So I must be mafia. Doesn't matter if literally two games ago he was 9100% sure that I was mafia and I flipped town. Doesn't matter if towards that game he townread me for trying, then randomly flipped on me because I was playing terribly in his mafia Jesus eyes.

And what does he do here? Exactly what he did at the tail end of Simple Mafia. Calls me town because of one thing, finds one garbage, irrelevant detail, calls me Mafia, and will push me until I die.

You're garbage at reading me Koshi. That's all. Man that was fun!

GARBAGE AT READING ME. I will be having the biggest shit eating grin on my face and I will fucking roast you post game if I get lynched because this will be 0/2 times you read me as mafia when I am town.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 08 2018 02:37 GMT
#1076
Actually that's the only post I wanted to make. I will do a small dance around my corpse after I get lynched as a spirit and laugh at Koshi all day in OBS chat when you scurry to find another ideal image of the game because I will flip town.

Absolute shitter. Learn to read someone properly before you claim yourself as the second coming of Christ in a forum mafia game.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 08 2018 02:38 GMT
#1077
Mocsta's filter is just garbage. Calls me SK for half of D1, then thinks I'm town, then thinks I'm mafia again because I waffled a bit. NEWSFLASH I wouldn't have stuck on rsoultin if my buddy mderg was getting lynched.

Also neither of you are answering what the fuck you're going to do when I flip town. So answer that for town's sake, you big fat piles of garbage.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 08 2018 03:01 GMT
#1081
On February 08 2018 11:54 Mocsta wrote:
what happened to being this nitpicky fellow?
The answer of you being town is already evident in our lynch pool which exceeds 2 lolololol.

As for the dirty dirty WIFOM you want to throw.. well.
You're pinned by how you didnt want to vote mderg.
Whether mafia or SK, i dont really care.

I intentionally wrote with an apostrophe so you didnt have to get nitpicky fretted.


no one cares dude. your read progression on me is trash. fuck off and find the two other mafia you useless cunt
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 08 2018 03:02 GMT
#1082
@ritoky lemme find the quote for you. it's in my filter.

On February 08 2018 04:41 Conversion wrote:
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On February 08 2018 04:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:34 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:30 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:
I am back. Meeting ran over, typical.

On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can.

Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do.


I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing.


I don't oppose a prp lynch? I just think it's a coinflip.


Hmm. My diffident nature is showing as deadline is creeping upon me..

On one hand I really dislike mderg's filter, but I am not seeing too much of a difference between here and Newbie. I have not played Newbie, though, so maybe I would have seen it differently had I been in it.

On the other hand, I really disliked the majority of your Day1, and I am not sure if the recovery was enough to sway my decision...

Ugh.


-squints at- That just sounds like you should be voting me. I don't see what the waffle is about.


You can look into my meta (past all the unfun, toxic, ragey bullshit) and you will see that by nature I am waffley. But you are right, I will remain steadfast in voting you and just have more confidence in my conclusion.

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