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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 10:20 GMT
#561
On February 07 2018 19:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 19:05 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley

the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable.

no. not a suitable day1 vote.

Damdred all the way
I am also at the point of wanting to read a prplhz scum game again

i dont like at all he predicted town rayn/rsoultin early on.

now you are getting bad points for doing something that hasn't anything to do with alignments.
excuse me? what is not alignment indicative?


On February 07 2018 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me.
and.. you are 1 vote of 13. get used to ppl not sucking you off.

rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:20 GMT
#562
On February 07 2018 19:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 19:05 ritoky wrote:
yeah i don't really think he is mafia at all, so not doing that.


Because of townreading Rels? I mean, I understand why you think it might be...I forget the word...angling? Hold on, let me pop back into the DF filter.


Nh. I don't know. It kind of seems like you're assuming an inexplicable townread comes from that with no basis in fact. Other than maybe his unwilligness to elaborate.

Which is weird, really. If he was angling and you already publically identified it, why would he feel the need to keep it secret?

More to the point, it's Rels. He is French. And I know that I've seen him make posts like that before. (Thought he did in Newbie, but I guess I was wrong.) It's possible that darthfoley read into it I suppose but...meh. I just don't find this theory as compelling as the rest of his filter, even if it's technically possible.

You mentioned tone before. Are those two reasons your main reasons for townreading him?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:20 GMT
#563
On February 07 2018 19:20 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 19:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:05 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no, i think this is right.
#unvote
##vote darthfoley

the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable.

no. not a suitable day1 vote.

Damdred all the way
I am also at the point of wanting to read a prplhz scum game again

i dont like at all he predicted town rayn/rsoultin early on.

now you are getting bad points for doing something that hasn't anything to do with alignments.
excuse me? what is not alignment indicative?


Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me.
and.. you are 1 vote of 13. get used to ppl not sucking you off.



o.0 Mocsta, dude, where is this coming from? Take a chill pill.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 10:21 GMT
#564
On February 07 2018 08:59 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.

I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.

Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.

Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.

Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.

other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point.


So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game
Again. why jump to worst-conclusions.
Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.
The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent).

Pray tell me though.
Do you see anything towny about damdred so far?
Flu or not.
Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better.


I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg.

Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him.

Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So...

1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good?
2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse?

I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you?

This post is good rayn. Depends on how red our lynchbait people are. But the post is good.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 10:21 GMT
#565
On February 07 2018 19:20 Mocsta wrote:
If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me.
and.. you are 1 vote of 13. get used to ppl not sucking you off.
[/QUOTE]
nah i am jsut saying my vote is not changing.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 10:23 GMT
#566
On February 07 2018 19:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:59 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.

I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.

Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.

Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.

Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.

other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point.


So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game
Again. why jump to worst-conclusions.
Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.
The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent).

Pray tell me though.
Do you see anything towny about damdred so far?
Flu or not.
Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better.


I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg.

Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him.

Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So...

1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good?
2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse?

I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you?

This post is good rayn. Depends on how red our lynchbait people are. But the post is good.

It really isn't. I don't know why you think it is.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:24 GMT
#567
On February 07 2018 19:20 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 19:14 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:05 ritoky wrote:
yeah i don't really think he is mafia at all, so not doing that.


Because of townreading Rels? I mean, I understand why you think it might be...I forget the word...angling? Hold on, let me pop back into the DF filter.


Nh. I don't know. It kind of seems like you're assuming an inexplicable townread comes from that with no basis in fact. Other than maybe his unwilligness to elaborate.

Which is weird, really. If he was angling and you already publically identified it, why would he feel the need to keep it secret?

More to the point, it's Rels. He is French. And I know that I've seen him make posts like that before. (Thought he did in Newbie, but I guess I was wrong.) It's possible that darthfoley read into it I suppose but...meh. I just don't find this theory as compelling as the rest of his filter, even if it's technically possible.

You mentioned tone before. Are those two reasons your main reasons for townreading him?


:/ You're not supposed to leave, ritoky.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 10:24 GMT
#568
Mocsta maybe said something stupid why does it make him mafia and why does df pointing out stupid make him town?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 10:25 GMT
#569
On February 07 2018 19:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 19:20 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:14 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:05 ritoky wrote:
yeah i don't really think he is mafia at all, so not doing that.


Because of townreading Rels? I mean, I understand why you think it might be...I forget the word...angling? Hold on, let me pop back into the DF filter.


Nh. I don't know. It kind of seems like you're assuming an inexplicable townread comes from that with no basis in fact. Other than maybe his unwilligness to elaborate.

Which is weird, really. If he was angling and you already publically identified it, why would he feel the need to keep it secret?

More to the point, it's Rels. He is French. And I know that I've seen him make posts like that before. (Thought he did in Newbie, but I guess I was wrong.) It's possible that darthfoley read into it I suppose but...meh. I just don't find this theory as compelling as the rest of his filter, even if it's technically possible.

You mentioned tone before. Are those two reasons your main reasons for townreading him?


:/ You're not supposed to leave, ritoky.

Where is the fucking DF filter dive i am getting annoyed on you.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:25 GMT
#570
Eh, I need to do a few things but will be back later. It's already 11:30.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 10:26 GMT
#571
youve been doing it for like 2 hours-.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:26 GMT
#572
On February 07 2018 19:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 18:55 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually no i dnot care about anything other than this.

Who were you fiter diving Tina? which ppl and why?


I'm literally just going down the player list, rayn. Looking at DF right now, but I think I need to read the truffle comments on him because I don't remember them well and it's a big point in his filter.

Not that that really matters.

I think that I was having trouble seeing the forest for the trees because I was too focused on myself this game, which is my bad. It's not the first time that's happened, but I understand why people don't remember what I'm like when being scumread; it's been years. So I'm trying to go back through more objectively. For what that's worth.


No, it was you Rayn, not truffle. Misread that because he was talking all about truffle before.

Some individual posts from darth foley still tonally resonate with me as being pretty fuck the world I'm gonna do what I want, but his filter in general actually reads more angry and defensive than I remember. I also don't like how he's mostly just scumreading people who are scumreading him after the initial scumreads on both myself and mocsta. To be fair, I actually think the original scumreads on mocsta and myself are okay given his last game and the buss that went on there. But scumreading whoever scumreads him (truffle, rayn) was exactly what he did as scum in Newbie.


Lol, rayn, you keep doing this.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:26 GMT
#573
On February 07 2018 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
youve been doing it for like 2 hours-.


It's already done? And I've also been responding to what's going on here. Calm down please.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 10:26 GMT
#574
gg then
#unvote darthfoley
##vote rsoultin


afk, work.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 10:28 GMT
#575
On February 07 2018 19:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 19:20 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:14 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:05 ritoky wrote:
yeah i don't really think he is mafia at all, so not doing that.


Because of townreading Rels? I mean, I understand why you think it might be...I forget the word...angling? Hold on, let me pop back into the DF filter.


Nh. I don't know. It kind of seems like you're assuming an inexplicable townread comes from that with no basis in fact. Other than maybe his unwilligness to elaborate.

Which is weird, really. If he was angling and you already publically identified it, why would he feel the need to keep it secret?

More to the point, it's Rels. He is French. And I know that I've seen him make posts like that before. (Thought he did in Newbie, but I guess I was wrong.) It's possible that darthfoley read into it I suppose but...meh. I just don't find this theory as compelling as the rest of his filter, even if it's technically possible.

You mentioned tone before. Are those two reasons your main reasons for townreading him?


:/ You're not supposed to leave, ritoky.

Mafia emote. But it is not game related so it's ok.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 10:28 GMT
#576
##Unvote
##Vote: Rayn


I was sitting on fence with you; because I thought you were driving good discussion.

But everything is OMGUS.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:29 GMT
#577
On February 07 2018 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gg then
#unvote darthfoley
##vote rsoultin


afk, work.


Seriously? I mean, it's fine to lynch me anyway if that's what you need to get untunneled, but it feels like you're doing it over a misunderstanding or I don't even understand this reaction from you.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 10:30 GMT
#578
On February 07 2018 19:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:59 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.

I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.

Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.

Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.

Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.

other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point.


So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game
Again. why jump to worst-conclusions.
Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.
The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent).

Pray tell me though.
Do you see anything towny about damdred so far?
Flu or not.
Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better.


I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg.

Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him.

Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So...

1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good?
2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse?

I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you?

This post is good rayn. Depends on how red our lynchbait people are. But the post is good.
Its a terrible post and terrible dichotomy

its also the same reasoning behind why rels got lynched as town.
ppl do stuff they are shamed to admit all the time.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 10:30 GMT
#579
Okay, well, whatever lol >< I still need to reread Joni's filter anyway. Will be back this afternoon.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 10:30 GMT
#580
On February 07 2018 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 19:21 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:59 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.

I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.

Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.

Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.

Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.

other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point.


So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game
Again. why jump to worst-conclusions.
Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.
The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent).

Pray tell me though.
Do you see anything towny about damdred so far?
Flu or not.
Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better.


I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg.

Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him.

Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So...

1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good?
2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse?

I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you?

This post is good rayn. Depends on how red our lynchbait people are. But the post is good.

It really isn't. I don't know why you think it is.

Because if he is town. Everything in it is true. And the discussion he is having here is correct. He is right and mocsta wrong. But he isnt overplaying his advantage of veing right.

It's good.
I had a good night of sleep.
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