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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 09:39 GMT
#521
can you tell me what you mean with fluid?
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 09:40 GMT
#522
On February 07 2018 18:34 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 18:20 rsoultin wrote:
I'm torn on mocsta. On the one hand, he's sticking to his guns, which is quite different than his scum game. He's also poking and prodding at people around his case. But he's not really focused beyond what people say about his case or the non-existent rsoul. I don't think that's necessarily scummy, but I do think it's an easy way for scum to play because it only requires focus on two fronts. I'd even say slight townread for the bolded meta point.

What really gives me pause though is that I distinctly recall his primary negative comment about me in his scum QT being that I didn't have the "EQ" to handle a holyflare. If he noticed that I react so poorly (yes, sorry, rsoul is existing again for a second but it's the only way that I can explain my concern on mocsta) to people belittling me, he should have known how posts like this would tilt me:

On February 06 2018 06:42 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:39 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:38 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:25 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
What a pointless conversation about pointless conversations.


So tempted to call you a pointless conversation right now. Though maybe more tempted to call Joni scum for lacking a sense of humor.

@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.
hi tina

Would you call your rayn = scum 'light' comment

Humour or passive aggression?


Didn't see this. And I have no clue what you're asking, because to me it sounds like you assume that I could only be joking or being passive aggressive?
you know tina

Insteas of answering a question with a question

You can continue to deflect by answering the question lol

Or you could clarify as I asked. That's also a thing.

Why so mad?

Need some itch cream? I got what you need, bbygurl


For someone who noticed that I tilt even in a game I'm not scumread in at posts like this, it seems less like he was less interested in my alignment than he should have been.

Damdred is also a pretty easy mislynch if he's town. The reason for it is bad, too. Afk. Only caveat is mocsta may not know that Ian tends to poof constantly. Which fits him being town and tunneled on me therefore ignoring anything I say as possibly false. Meh.

Now I'm talking in circles.

It's really an interplay between pretty solid push in his filter and saying things he know will tilt me. Although, ironically, him doing that pretty solid push then switching over to Damdred for one post actually does align better with his scum play.

Leaning scum.
So im leaning scum?

The whole irony of this post is you say i should hav ebetter eq on you, suggesting perhaps you didnt realise i was considering an unvote.

however, later you comment on this, so you should know i have realised myself i may have tilted you.

with that contradiction, now i can only keep my vote.
damdred is scum with you

i dont have to re-read, thanks for saving me a couple horus.



"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 09:40 GMT
#523
als owhich reads of him are "fluid" and why?
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 09:40 GMT
#524
EQ = Emotional equivalent of IQ

i have no issue with Ritoky at this point.
I think hes honest with not playing like this before and being to the point.

Would be a 1 or 2 on the ritoky scale.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 09:42 GMT
#525
On February 07 2018 18:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
can you tell me what you mean with fluid?


It's a little hard to describe. It's how I caught Damerion, though. It's not just changing reads on an individual, but also just changing reads based on new information in the thread. I'm not saying that ritoky is really hard-pushing anything (that was what I thought was scummy the first time through) but I am saying that his view of the game is shifting with new information. I generally find that towny.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 09:43 GMT
#526
Tina i assume you're caught up with the thread is that right?
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 09:43 GMT
#527
On February 07 2018 18:38 rsoultin wrote:
Ritoky posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 06 2018 06:27 ritoky wrote:
hf


On February 06 2018 12:52 ritoky wrote:
i read the conversation about the serial killer, and proceeded to roll my eyes and say to myself "this is so dumb". hf did the same thing at the same time. i am town, thus he is town.

koshi is a detriment to town regardless of his alignment; so if there is no compelling alternative, removing him from the game is always a positive.


On February 06 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
hf town
not lynching mocsta today
rsoul prob town

df hot and cold

conv kinda poop soup

lynch koshi


On February 06 2018 12:07 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 12:02 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
hf town
not lynching mocsta today
rsoul prob town

df hot and cold

conv kinda poop soup

lynch koshi
Hi ritoky
what makes conv brown?


his questions lead to dead end alleys where people get robbed and murdered.

non committal.

posts like "good point about that thing i was doing sir! cheerio chaps" generally come from mafia.


On February 06 2018 12:24 ritoky wrote:
truffle


On February 06 2018 18:57 ritoky wrote:
truffle is less townie than before because he took a blatant OoC quote.

conv slightly less shitty for calling truffle's bullshit about OoC quote.

nothing else interesting.


On February 06 2018 20:00 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is the "half-town" read?


that mocsta is town. it is pretty much purely on the heuristic that the highest activity player d1 is almost always town. because his obsession with his nothing-burger case does not inspire any further confidence in me about his alignment.


On February 07 2018 09:10 ritoky wrote:
Hey mocsta, I have a great question for you. Since you haven't rescinded the whole bomb thing I don't think....why are you voting rsoul? In your eyes she gonna die anyways right?



On February 06 2018 20:11 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:00 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is the "half-town" read?


that mocsta is town. it is pretty much purely on the heuristic that the highest activity player d1 is almost always town. because his obsession with his nothing-burger case does not inspire any further confidence in me about his alignment.

so rsoultin and Trfel arent townreads after all? I mean if Mocsta is "half town" based on a shitty heuristic, i am quite sure you should consider your almost as shitty smiley read more convincing and Trfel is always town so i cannot understand why anyone should not read him as town as Mocsta in the first place. I don't understand the strength of HF read and i think it is BS but i concede to the point you could possibly maybe sometimes think so as town.


i mean i was confident until you told me she got nailed for it last game, then i looked and it was kinda true; so i lost some confidence in it. i was banking on using the read i invented years ago to get a sneakster read, but it appears people still plagiarize my reads shamelessly.

trfel took a quote out of context pretty bad, so he doesn't get to sit at the table anymore.


On February 07 2018 08:08 ritoky wrote:
df what made you go from liking rayn to not liking rayn?


On February 07 2018 09:01 ritoky wrote:
You called rels town one time df. It was strange and off-putting. But I love your kick ass, take names, and fuck off tone. It makes me slightly hard.


On February 07 2018 09:49 ritoky wrote:
i believe df is using the nationality ascribed to his role and rels post to get a read.....altho i really don't think i should be posting about it cuz it feels icky.


On February 07 2018 08:52 ritoky wrote:
I mean statistically damdred is more likely mafia than wrong about my alignment, so there's that.


These are slightly out of order to show where reads are changing, but that's what I mean by fluid, HF.


Literally just posted this Joni lol. And again, it's a universal sense not a, here's a post here's a post let me explain each one sort of thing.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 09:44 GMT
#528
On February 07 2018 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tina i assume you're caught up with the thread is that right?


No, I'm filter diving. Is there something you wanted me to comment on?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 09:45 GMT
#529
On February 07 2018 18:42 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 18:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
can you tell me what you mean with fluid?


It's a little hard to describe. It's how I caught Damerion, though. It's not just changing reads on an individual, but also just changing reads based on new information in the thread. I'm not saying that ritoky is really hard-pushing anything (that was what I thought was scummy the first time through) but I am saying that his view of the game is shifting with new information. I generally find that towny.

I generally agree with the statement but when your reads start at bullshit level 10 it is easy to change them to reasonable level 1.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 09:45 GMT
#530
On February 07 2018 18:44 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tina i assume you're caught up with the thread is that right?


No, I'm filter diving. Is there something you wanted me to comment on?

darthfoley
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 09:45 GMT
#531
On February 07 2018 18:40 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 18:34 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 18:20 rsoultin wrote:
I'm torn on mocsta. On the one hand, he's sticking to his guns, which is quite different than his scum game. He's also poking and prodding at people around his case. But he's not really focused beyond what people say about his case or the non-existent rsoul. I don't think that's necessarily scummy, but I do think it's an easy way for scum to play because it only requires focus on two fronts. I'd even say slight townread for the bolded meta point.

What really gives me pause though is that I distinctly recall his primary negative comment about me in his scum QT being that I didn't have the "EQ" to handle a holyflare. If he noticed that I react so poorly (yes, sorry, rsoul is existing again for a second but it's the only way that I can explain my concern on mocsta) to people belittling me, he should have known how posts like this would tilt me:

On February 06 2018 06:42 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:39 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:38 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:25 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
What a pointless conversation about pointless conversations.


So tempted to call you a pointless conversation right now. Though maybe more tempted to call Joni scum for lacking a sense of humor.

@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.
hi tina

Would you call your rayn = scum 'light' comment

Humour or passive aggression?


Didn't see this. And I have no clue what you're asking, because to me it sounds like you assume that I could only be joking or being passive aggressive?
you know tina

Insteas of answering a question with a question

You can continue to deflect by answering the question lol

Or you could clarify as I asked. That's also a thing.

Why so mad?

Need some itch cream? I got what you need, bbygurl


For someone who noticed that I tilt even in a game I'm not scumread in at posts like this, it seems less like he was less interested in my alignment than he should have been.

Damdred is also a pretty easy mislynch if he's town. The reason for it is bad, too. Afk. Only caveat is mocsta may not know that Ian tends to poof constantly. Which fits him being town and tunneled on me therefore ignoring anything I say as possibly false. Meh.

Now I'm talking in circles.

It's really an interplay between pretty solid push in his filter and saying things he know will tilt me. Although, ironically, him doing that pretty solid push then switching over to Damdred for one post actually does align better with his scum play.

Leaning scum.
So im leaning scum?

The whole irony of this post is you say i should hav ebetter eq on you, suggesting perhaps you didnt realise i was considering an unvote.

however, later you comment on this, so you should know i have realised myself i may have tilted you.

with that contradiction, now i can only keep my vote.
damdred is scum with you

i dont have to re-read, thanks for saving me a couple horus.



i cant understand for the life of me why you would do this as either town or mafia.

i was ready to give you a chance and this just makes no sense as a play other than mafia toying around before death.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 09:46 GMT
#532
On February 07 2018 18:40 Mocsta wrote:
EQ = Emotional equivalent of IQ

i have no issue with Ritoky at this point.
I think hes honest with not playing like this before and being to the point.

Would be a 1 or 2 on the ritoky scale.


This was how I was interpreting EQ as well, to be clear. Yes he called me the equivalent of emotionally stupid in his scum QT. That sort of thing sticks in my memory.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 09:47 GMT
#533
On February 07 2018 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 18:42 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 18:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
can you tell me what you mean with fluid?


It's a little hard to describe. It's how I caught Damerion, though. It's not just changing reads on an individual, but also just changing reads based on new information in the thread. I'm not saying that ritoky is really hard-pushing anything (that was what I thought was scummy the first time through) but I am saying that his view of the game is shifting with new information. I generally find that towny.

I generally agree with the statement but when your reads start at bullshit level 10 it is easy to change them to reasonable level 1.


What reads did you think were bullshit from ritoky?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 07 2018 09:48 GMT
#534
i am pretty sold on:
holyflare
rayn
darthfoley


then like next tier is probably:
rsoul
trfel

then there's a lot of confusion

then probably bottom tier is:
damdred
mderg
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 09:49 GMT
#535
On February 07 2018 18:45 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 18:40 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 18:34 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 18:20 rsoultin wrote:
I'm torn on mocsta. On the one hand, he's sticking to his guns, which is quite different than his scum game. He's also poking and prodding at people around his case. But he's not really focused beyond what people say about his case or the non-existent rsoul. I don't think that's necessarily scummy, but I do think it's an easy way for scum to play because it only requires focus on two fronts. I'd even say slight townread for the bolded meta point.

What really gives me pause though is that I distinctly recall his primary negative comment about me in his scum QT being that I didn't have the "EQ" to handle a holyflare. If he noticed that I react so poorly (yes, sorry, rsoul is existing again for a second but it's the only way that I can explain my concern on mocsta) to people belittling me, he should have known how posts like this would tilt me:

On February 06 2018 06:42 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:39 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:38 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:25 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

So tempted to call you a pointless conversation right now. Though maybe more tempted to call Joni scum for lacking a sense of humor.

@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.
hi tina

Would you call your rayn = scum 'light' comment

Humour or passive aggression?


Didn't see this. And I have no clue what you're asking, because to me it sounds like you assume that I could only be joking or being passive aggressive?
you know tina

Insteas of answering a question with a question

You can continue to deflect by answering the question lol

Or you could clarify as I asked. That's also a thing.

Why so mad?

Need some itch cream? I got what you need, bbygurl


For someone who noticed that I tilt even in a game I'm not scumread in at posts like this, it seems less like he was less interested in my alignment than he should have been.

Damdred is also a pretty easy mislynch if he's town. The reason for it is bad, too. Afk. Only caveat is mocsta may not know that Ian tends to poof constantly. Which fits him being town and tunneled on me therefore ignoring anything I say as possibly false. Meh.

Now I'm talking in circles.

It's really an interplay between pretty solid push in his filter and saying things he know will tilt me. Although, ironically, him doing that pretty solid push then switching over to Damdred for one post actually does align better with his scum play.

Leaning scum.
So im leaning scum?

The whole irony of this post is you say i should hav ebetter eq on you, suggesting perhaps you didnt realise i was considering an unvote.

however, later you comment on this, so you should know i have realised myself i may have tilted you.

with that contradiction, now i can only keep my vote.
damdred is scum with you

i dont have to re-read, thanks for saving me a couple horus.



i cant understand for the life of me why you would do this as either town or mafia.

i was ready to give you a chance and this just makes no sense as a play other than mafia toying around before death.


Hun, I'm making reads posts for after I flip. If you're town and my slight scumread is wrong, apologies, but I really don't see the point of your post there and feel no need to answer it. I did, however, acknowledge it so that you know that I read what you said.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 09:50 GMT
#536
Actually no i dnot care about anything other than this.

Who were you fiter diving Tina? which ppl and why?
table for two on a tv tray
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 07 2018 09:51 GMT
#537
really i am most sold on darthfoley as town. cuz he was angle shooting, and angle shooting is almost exclusively a town trait.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 09:53 GMT
#538
On February 07 2018 18:47 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 07 2018 18:42 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 18:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
can you tell me what you mean with fluid?


It's a little hard to describe. It's how I caught Damerion, though. It's not just changing reads on an individual, but also just changing reads based on new information in the thread. I'm not saying that ritoky is really hard-pushing anything (that was what I thought was scummy the first time through) but I am saying that his view of the game is shifting with new information. I generally find that towny.

I generally agree with the statement but when your reads start at bullshit level 10 it is easy to change them to reasonable level 1.


What reads did you think were bullshit from ritoky?

read on you
read on koshi
read on damdred
read on trfel

all of those were in my opinion based on superficial things that dont make anyone anything (and the koshi read wasnt even a read which made me think he isnt even doing anything or does not want to)
table for two on a tv tray
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 07 2018 09:53 GMT
#539
until he tells me he wasn't angle shooting, then i become sad.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 09:54 GMT
#540
On February 07 2018 18:34 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 18:20 rsoultin wrote:
I'm torn on mocsta. On the one hand, he's sticking to his guns, which is quite different than his scum game. He's also poking and prodding at people around his case. But he's not really focused beyond what people say about his case or the non-existent rsoul. I don't think that's necessarily scummy, but I do think it's an easy way for scum to play because it only requires focus on two fronts. I'd even say slight townread for the bolded meta point.

What really gives me pause though is that I distinctly recall his primary negative comment about me in his scum QT being that I didn't have the "EQ" to handle a holyflare. If he noticed that I react so poorly (yes, sorry, rsoul is existing again for a second but it's the only way that I can explain my concern on mocsta) to people belittling me, he should have known how posts like this would tilt me:

On February 06 2018 06:42 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:39 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:38 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:25 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote:
What a pointless conversation about pointless conversations.


So tempted to call you a pointless conversation right now. Though maybe more tempted to call Joni scum for lacking a sense of humor.

@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.
hi tina

Would you call your rayn = scum 'light' comment

Humour or passive aggression?


Didn't see this. And I have no clue what you're asking, because to me it sounds like you assume that I could only be joking or being passive aggressive?
you know tina

Insteas of answering a question with a question

You can continue to deflect by answering the question lol

Or you could clarify as I asked. That's also a thing.

Why so mad?

Need some itch cream? I got what you need, bbygurl


For someone who noticed that I tilt even in a game I'm not scumread in at posts like this, it seems less like he was less interested in my alignment than he should have been.

Damdred is also a pretty easy mislynch if he's town. The reason for it is bad, too. Afk. Only caveat is mocsta may not know that Ian tends to poof constantly. Which fits him being town and tunneled on me therefore ignoring anything I say as possibly false. Meh.

Now I'm talking in circles.

It's really an interplay between pretty solid push in his filter and saying things he know will tilt me. Although, ironically, him doing that pretty solid push then switching over to Damdred for one post actually does align better with his scum play.

Leaning scum.
So im leaning scum?

The whole irony of this post is you say i should hav ebetter eq on you, suggesting perhaps you didnt realise i was considering an unvote.

however, later you comment on this, so you should know i have realised myself i may have tilted you.

with that contradiction, now i can only keep my vote.
damdred is scum with you

i dont have to re-read, thanks for saving me a couple horus.

I dont want to do this conversation thing but I wonder why you think mafia!rsoultin makes a post that almost always ends up in acting like you do. Which is angry vote her.
[Hr]
I think darthfoley is also not a good lynch. He made good posts which he can make as mafia but it is less likely. The one with mocsta and the sk comment from rsoultin for example.
I had a good night of sleep.
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