• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:06
CET 21:06
KST 05:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win22025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest3
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Could we add "Avoid Matchup" Feature for rankgame Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win The New Patch Killed Mech! Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
Ladder Map Matchup Stats BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION ASL final tickets help
Strategy
PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Trump's Golden Crown in Kor…
Peanutsc
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1285 users

[M][N] Vendée Globe 16' Mafia - Page 31

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 126 Next
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 11:18 GMT
#601
Yes strong town lean +5
Koshi
Hf
Darthfoley
Conversion

Nullish -2 to +4
Ritoky
Rayn
Rsoultin
Rels
Trfel
Prplhz

Scummy -5
Mderg
Damdred

darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 11:18 GMT
#602
Rayn claims to like mderg for focusing on the right thingS (plural) when his whole filter exists in the echo chamber of "rsoultin is scum" thread sentiment reads.

He has made one comment on me (with no conclusion) and one townread on Mocsta for wrong reasons.

Could be down to lynch. But I also get the willies that rsoultin's wagon is starting to face some pressure. Mafia would be likely to sit on their hands and do nothing if she's Town. to be determined
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 11:20 GMT
#603
I would actually appreciate Conversion's feedback in the thread. He was playing well earlier
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 11:20 GMT
#604
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"

You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room.
I had a good night of sleep.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 11:20 GMT
#605
On February 07 2018 20:13 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi

The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.

However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.

This to me is non characyeristic.


To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content
tell me. Is rayn always so self centred?

Ps. I like HF this game. Same vibe as last


Yes. I know he also tunnels hardcore as Town. Not really familiar with his mafia play.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 11:22 GMT
#606
On February 07 2018 20:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 20:12 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.
talking to me?

Who cares if my argument is wrong
Care if its intentional

No to df. That is the reason rayn scumreads df.

About tfrel:
I am bad at reading people like that. So I cant comment. You say his focus is deliberately focussed on some people while ignoring others? In this case ignoring rsoultin. Maybe.

What I see is that he is playing the game trying to solve it. I do not see mafia intention behind how he solves it. I do believe all his scumreads are wrong, but I dont think it makes him mafia.
analytical ppl can be wrong. So bad scumreads dont make him mafia either.

Its more he set the standard as deep and inciteful. I had to read thr conversion/trfel posts like 3 to 4 times cos i just dont view the game that deep on a filter by filter level. Bht once i got it.. it all made sense so im like. What a town motherfucker. This is real content.

Then to see this guy casually vote someone on the sheep and withoit interrogsting them.. thata just not congruent with what i would expect..

In short. He came across as super original
And ended up as a copy paster.

Whilst hr can agree with a good case. I still expect him to do his own homework on it. Instead there ks none of this deep insight into why rsoultin is scum
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 11:24 GMT
#607
On February 07 2018 20:18 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn claims to like mderg for focusing on the right thingS (plural) when his whole filter exists in the echo chamber of "rsoultin is scum" thread sentiment reads.

He has made one comment on me (with no conclusion) and one townread on Mocsta for wrong reasons.

Could be down to lynch. But I also get the willies that rsoultin's wagon is starting to face some pressure. Mafia would be likely to sit on their hands and do nothing if she's Town. to be determined

I disagree

I wrote repeatedly in qt that i always want an alternative wagon second 24hrs so people dont get itchy. I think its more a town tell .

If mafia. I thinm optimal play is to either fight before it is a wagon or bus it outright
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 07 2018 11:25 GMT
#608
On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"

You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room.


No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong.

Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 11:25 GMT
#609
On February 07 2018 20:20 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 20:13 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi

The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.

However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.

This to me is non characyeristic.


To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content
tell me. Is rayn always so self centred?

Ps. I like HF this game. Same vibe as last


Yes. I know he also tunnels hardcore as Town. Not really familiar with his mafia play.

His mafia play is really good. If town is wrong he can make a giant post with fresh arguments that fit towns current believes and cements them even further. Making it very unlikely town recovers fast.

His town play is hit or miss early. And gets more likely to hit later on. But I have seen him be miss till like mid d3. After that he is hit or rip.
That being said. He can be hit d1 and then he is able to convince the thread he is right. Because he is so relentless. If thread sentiment doesnt believe him he is wrong most of the times. Thread sentiment is a good indicator.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 11:28 GMT
#610
On February 07 2018 20:22 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 20:16 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:12 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.
talking to me?

Who cares if my argument is wrong
Care if its intentional

No to df. That is the reason rayn scumreads df.

About tfrel:
I am bad at reading people like that. So I cant comment. You say his focus is deliberately focussed on some people while ignoring others? In this case ignoring rsoultin. Maybe.

What I see is that he is playing the game trying to solve it. I do not see mafia intention behind how he solves it. I do believe all his scumreads are wrong, but I dont think it makes him mafia.
analytical ppl can be wrong. So bad scumreads dont make him mafia either.

Its more he set the standard as deep and inciteful. I had to read thr conversion/trfel posts like 3 to 4 times cos i just dont view the game that deep on a filter by filter level. Bht once i got it.. it all made sense so im like. What a town motherfucker. This is real content.

Then to see this guy casually vote someone on the sheep and withoit interrogsting them.. thata just not congruent with what i would expect..

In short. He came across as super original
And ended up as a copy paster.

Whilst hr can agree with a good case. I still expect him to do his own homework on it. Instead there ks none of this deep insight into why rsoultin is scum

Well... I think what you write here makes him town. And that what you attribute to him being possible mafia might be a flaw in his game. Unless you can point out the mafia agenda in him sheeping we can't lynch him.
I had a good night of sleep.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
February 07 2018 11:29 GMT
#611
On February 07 2018 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
while mderg lacks a bit of enthusiasm he had last game i think the last game was best i have ever seen mderg play. Also i think he is focusing on the right things (aka rsoultin).

Be honest, you're only townreading me because I'm on the same page as you on rsoultin. I haven't done shit this game.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 11:30 GMT
#612
On February 07 2018 20:25 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"

You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room.


No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong.

Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards

Coolio. I believe you.
I very easily townread you for some reason. And I havent been wrong yet. But I think you never been mafia. Anyway. Last 3 games I tr you fast and correct.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 11:31 GMT
#613
Never thought he was a good lymxh option

How does this development make you feel about prplhz?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 11:32 GMT
#614
On February 07 2018 20:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 20:25 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"

You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room.


No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong.

Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards

Coolio. I believe you.
I very easily townread you for some reason. And I havent been wrong yet. But I think you never been mafia. Anyway. Last 3 games I tr you fast and correct.

Lol

This is a funniest comment nomination

Me and darth were scum together last game... you knlw.. brutal bus everyome was talking about
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 11:32 GMT
#615
On February 07 2018 20:31 Mocsta wrote:
Never thought he was a good lymxh option

How does this development make you feel about prplhz?

What development? I dont follow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 11:33 GMT
#616
On February 07 2018 20:32 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 20:30 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:25 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"

You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room.


No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong.

Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards

Coolio. I believe you.
I very easily townread you for some reason. And I havent been wrong yet. But I think you never been mafia. Anyway. Last 3 games I tr you fast and correct.

Lol

This is a funniest comment nomination

Me and darth were scum together last game... you knlw.. brutal bus everyome was talking about

Yes. I wasnt in the game.
I meant he wasnt mafia in a game I was alive in recently.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 11:34 GMT
#617
On February 07 2018 20:32 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 20:31 Mocsta wrote:
Never thought he was a good lymxh option

How does this development make you feel about prplhz?

What development? I dont follow.
you just aaid. My comments on trfel indicate town

Prplhz was playing against thread sentiment by shitting on trfel to make a black truffle.

Yoy said you liked this about prplhz.. and i believ it lined up with yoyr read.

So of leaning town.. does this influence prplhz read?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 11:38 GMT
#618
On February 07 2018 20:34 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 20:32 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 20:31 Mocsta wrote:
Never thought he was a good lymxh option

How does this development make you feel about prplhz?

What development? I dont follow.
you just aaid. My comments on trfel indicate town

Prplhz was playing against thread sentiment by shitting on trfel to make a black truffle.

Yoy said you liked this about prplhz.. and i believ it lined up with yoyr read.

So of leaning town.. does this influence prplhz read?

No. I never said that. I am scumreading/voting prplhz because he nitpicked something out of tfrel filter ignoring the broader picture.

prplhz has a nightmare filter and I dont care too much if he is mafia or town. I just want him out of the game and develop my reads further on people that actually play the game. Like rsoultin.

Mderg same story.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 11:41 GMT
#619
Fuck me. Am i really payojg that little attention

Will walk away then happy with my vote on mderg
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 11:48 GMT
#620
Wait before i go

Why is there resistanxe to damdred...

How can he say tina is not her town self
Then say i should be ashamed of myself.

I was the primary pusher of tina.. wtf?
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 126 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
16:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #17
SteadfastSC217
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 217
ProTech104
JuggernautJason94
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 660
Dewaltoss 114
Soulkey 106
soO 17
Dota 2
qojqva4087
Dendi1233
Fuzer 280
monkeys_forever103
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
ScreaM1166
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu357
Other Games
Grubby2558
FrodaN1240
fl0m1022
B2W.Neo405
shahzam318
Harstem293
Skadoodle173
C9.Mang0115
ArmadaUGS93
ZombieGrub59
Mew2King50
Trikslyr35
OptimusSC28
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV33
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 10
• Reevou 3
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 39
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2861
• WagamamaTV594
• Ler98
League of Legends
• TFBlade998
Other Games
• imaqtpie1237
• Scarra270
• Shiphtur154
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 54m
The PondCast
12h 54m
OSC
15h 54m
Harstem vs SKillous
Gerald vs Spirit
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cham vs Ryung
CrankTV Team League
16h 54m
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
Replay Cast
1d 13h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 15h
ByuN vs Spirit
herO vs Solar
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
Epic.LAN
1d 15h
CrankTV Team League
1d 16h
BASILISK vs TBD
Replay Cast
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Team A[vengers]
2 days
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
3 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.