[M][N] Vendée Globe 16' Mafia - Page 13

On February 09 2018 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Im going to break this down then.

You are being a hypocrit mocsta, you say that i regurgitate all of my reads but you copy and paste hf argument that i explain and ignore when you are called out on it.

And honestly no, you slipped back into the thread sentiment like you did last game and i just dont know what it makes you.

And honestly i dont know what it makes you, idc about voting or not because unlike what most of the thread thinks about me im not stupid and can read the wall.

On February 09 2018 09:31 Damdred wrote:


Ok, im going to pretend just for a bit that i think you are town and I will try to work with you.

Im just tired, idk id rather not talk about it in game anymore.

So where do we start, lets start at my base stuff. Where am I wrong at tina to stary with?

On February 09 2018 09:42 Damdred wrote:


Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk

On February 09 2018 09:49 Damdred wrote:


i dont know what im doimg wrong and why people cant understand me....

On February 09 2018 09:28 Mocsta wrote:


OK, I shall dive for you.

Overall a summary post. New insight are superficial comments with no basis behind it.

This is a more "wall-of-text" version of mderg summary post that says a lot about nothing.
As a reminder:

On February 09 2018 10:09 Damdred wrote:


idk what to say, things got under my skin.

i feel like im saying things and the context is a bit cherry picked or later posts that explain what i mean is ignored.

On February 09 2018 10:19 Damdred wrote:


DF is antagonistic in his scum game, for example I was getting warm on putting his partner calix up for lynch. He would then take little things and force a argument/fight to get me ofd the track I wanted to go on.

It was extremely reminiscent of what he did against hf. He took a small thing and turned it into a larger thing and diverted the thread from discussinf the lynch into who cased tina first. It was pointless did not help town.

Also as town he is usually what i consider a trailblazer. Mafia shoots him a lot early for beong right or looking in strange places. Here I sort od feel he just exists pretty static and hes sidelined.

Now I think this is fair to say df was active eod however what he did, did not help scum either... but who knew that hf wasnt goingb to go rs. @hf could probably answer if df pushed him away from voting tina at all though.

On February 09 2018 10:26 Mocsta wrote:
I suppose so. I have moved on from that for now.

Trfel read conversion as strong town, and df (with damdred at end) as good scumspects.

Im in the process of reevaluating my conversion/df position.

Unfortunately, i wasnt around EoD1 so i dont get the same sense of urgency not being there (i.e. constant F5 lol).
I probably have to collate thread with votes to best understand.

sigh

On February 10 2018 02:37 Damdred wrote:
ummmm thats pretty shit tbh, first I said I was going to try to do things that didnt revolve around you being lock scum.

And as for this part



This is a misrepresentation slightly but just enough to try yo juatify a vote and makes it look like you never even read any of the things i poated last night.

On February 10 2018 08:14 Mocsta wrote:
rsoultin, can you summarise in one post where you are at.

all i can see is 13 pages of "yes he is scum".. "o sorry i was skimming"
A couple events by itself dont make you scummy; yet here we are on Day2, you dont have pressure, and there is no change in output.

if you truly are pressed for time, there is much analysis this cycle, of which your feedback is appreciated.

On February 10 2018 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to talk directly to you Holyflare because talking to Koshi is like talking to a brick. It is quite funny actually that when Koshi happens to be right D1, if he doesn't die during night 1 the town is more likely to lose the game since he feels like a champion and completely unable to listen to anyone else. I tried for a while during N1 but then i decided to throw because i never even got to my point Koshi just pushed whatever he thinks was the correct idea. I am gonna try once more, if this goes to deaf ears then for all i care you can murder me because i don't really feel like playing let's see if Koshi finds mafia game.

What i tried to heavily imply during night 1 is to not cop check rsoultin. I am not sure if there is a normal cop who checked rsoultin but a green on her should always be claimed (obviously red too -- but green yes, only on her). The reason is that rsoultin, if not confirmed green, is always the bast lynch D2. It doesn't even fucking matter if she flips town. Always lynch the counter-wagon who mafia refused to vote on to save themselves, always.

Option 1: rsoultin flips town
We can, in this situation always assume that everyone on mderg wagon are town. Mocsta could maybe bus but who cares, that's for later, never care about that until lylo. That leaves the following people, who either voted for rsoultin or off-wagon:

Damdred
darthfoley
disformation
Conversion
raynpelikoneet
prplhz

You have a pool of 6 people who can be mafia.
- If you have 2 blues in those, game over. Town wins.
- If you have 1 blue in those, game over, town wins (2 lynches until lylo and mislynch every time -> 2 mafia 1 town in that pool in lylo) almost always, only retarded town loses here.
- If you have zero blues there you have to actually make reads..... Let's see what we have here very quickly:

Damdred - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
darthfoley - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
disformation - hasn't said anything, i don't even know if he has scumreads
Conversion - Koshi sheeple and master of inconsistancies
raynpelikoneet - you can think whatever you want
prplhz - he could have technically even saved mderg with him, so is extremely unlike to be mafia

The thing is, if you can even rule out ONE person there, who isn't mafia, you win the game. I can rule out fucking 3, easily. The dudes who push the anti-mafia idea. Ironically Koshi's lynch list at the moment is the three people who push the correct town play aka me/df/damdred. So yeah, go listen to Koshi if you want to.

Option 2: rsoultin flips mafia
Game opens up a lot, but who cares, we lynched mafia.

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The thing is Holyflare, rn three people say very very stupid stuff. rsoultin, Mocsta and disformation.

disformation made a post where he suggested that i am mafia and i was either trying to bus df (over rsoultin lynch), or trying to find an alternative lynch. Vote situation at the time 5 on rsoultin, some random 1's on some random other people. You srsly think that conclusion makes any fucking sense in any world at all? Then there is his conversion read and how he ended up reading conversion and how he ended up explaining himself after. It smells super fucking bs.

I genuinely believe Mocsta has slipped. Deal with it. I could possibly back off from that but everything that comes out of his keyboard so far is either copy of someone else or taking some post and inventing a (horrible) scum reasoning for it. Then there is the post where his #1 scumread (me) tells him that, and he somehow gets offended??? OF course i am trying to shit on his reads if i am mafia. I get Damdred getting emotionally "too invested" in the game and taking offense on something he shouldn't, but Mocsta, who himself continuosly tells other people they are bad? No fucking way.

I don't even care to write about rsoultin because i don't see a single townie thing she has done this game. Koshi sees all the townie things ofc but i don't, so there is that.

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I only made my promise to Koshi because i was very annoyed at him, and i still am. If you happen to realize i have all day been sarcastic about it. I don't care what Koshi says, i don't care what he does, he can try to solve the game by himself if he wants to. Maybe he even can. But that will happen without me as he doesn't do anything but shit on everything someone he doesn't like in this game for whatever reason says.

So yeah, there is that.

#unvote
##vote rsoultin
I don't care what alignment she is, it is just the correct play based on D1 end.
Do whatever you want to, my vote stays.

On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise.

On February 10 2018 08:35 Holyflare wrote:


It's a good thing you're very convincing this game.

On February 10 2018 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Me too, i also think rsoultin jsut started doign the thing she always does as mafia.
I won't bite because i don't have time for it.

On February 10 2018 08:39 Holyflare wrote:


But you've given absolutely 0 reason for me to lynch him over you so why would I? I'm still waiting on the damdred posts too.

On February 10 2018 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ah so you played the "you can never vote for me unless you are scum" -card.
Clever.