EPTOn February 08 2018 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Votewise correct. Thread sentiment doesn't suggest so.
Votewise correct. Thread sentiment doesn't suggest so.
Yes it does. You should read it
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On February 08 2018 19:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Furthermore, here is what i saw at the eod. Correct me if i am wrong as i was speedreading whenever i got a chance during work. Lynches were rsoultin or mderg. prplhz was thrown in as a third option. I personally thought prplhz was actaully in some kind of danger (like he had as many votes or close to rsoul/mderg) of getting lynched. The reason (Koshi mentioned this) i said i think prplhz is town in a post close to deadline is because i had actually no clue where the votes are and prplhz brought up shennies which i find to be dumb as scum (as i read mderg as town) since from my perspective the shennies would most likely end up on him. He could have just voted for mderg for some random reason (yes, he tends to do that -- i know it from experience, as mafia). Another thing is that noone was really pushing anything over rsoultin, other than mderg. Which is why i also find it more likely that rsoultin is mafia too. There was mderg -- rsoultin -- (prplhz). Which mafia team doesn't do anything in this situation in case only mderg is mafia? If we exclude prplhz why don't mafia vote for rsoultin or try to get her lynched instead? The only reasons in case rsoultin is town are semi-afk mafia at the time (rels slot, and i have to check on conv,ritoky,mocsta and damdred) or there is already a bus and crossed fingers (mocsta, possibly ritoky -- i don't believe anyone else here is bussing). But i don't find this scenario more likely than just that rsoultin is mafia, based on both mderg's and rsoultin's actions at the deadline. Koshi is quite obviously town. Trfel is quite obviously town. prplhz i talked about earlier, town. I believe darthfoley would have pushed rsoultin lynch more near the deadline in case he was mafia, if he is mafia with rsoultin the whole mafia teams play during whole D1 doesn't make any fucking sense at all so the only conclusion i can come to is that he is town. ritoky voted for mderg so he gets a pass for now. Holyflare could technically be scum if rsoultin is scum but i don't really believe D1 would have ended in a mafia lynch in case Holyflare is mafia, and he also voted for mderg, so town. Mocsta slipped, probably scum. Could bus. Already did so (although softly) last game. disformation nothing to say here. Damdred and Conversion. Conversion's tone sounds townie but idk if to trust that. Also Koshi i think made a decent case. Idk, tone says town, hard evidence says mafia. Damdred could be anything. I'd still roll with rsoultin and Mocsta. For all these pretty words your scumreads still amount to 1)retarded double mafia suicide instead of bussing for cred and 2)some guy posted <b> code instead of using brackets. And instead of engaging me when I'm being perfectly civil to try to rule you out, since I'm more suspicious of df anyway, you flip your top and saying I'm saying all kinds of things that I'm not. Your read on mderg was objectively bad. Own it. I own my shit. | ||
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On February 08 2018 19:41 Mocsta wrote: @tina I still think your reasons to town read rayn are poor. You are essentially stating he is a terrible townie that is subject to tunneling. The thing is, you should re-read the post the rayn post below.. this was the first post that made me iffy about rayn; and of course, the whole mderg sequence of events seals the deal. For your reference, this type of mindset of how he addresses me is not very townie (or tunneled). Its why i asked later if he is this self-centered. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=10#197 ...Lol. I wouldn't use those words exactly but yes Joni and I fundamentally disagree on what makes people scum. Self-centered reads are kind of his thing. That and things like inconsistencies. What is it about you that you find weird in his post? I honestly do believe that he could scumread me just for being dismissive toward him as town. | ||
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On February 08 2018 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because noone seemed to believe me it makes him mafia and i needed to leave. Well, it didn't. Fine, I guess. It just seemed like it was in response to my post, where I actually agreed on your read independently of, well your reasons. So it was confusing as shit. Your scumreads are super lazy though. Not to mention probably 100% wrong. | ||
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You should also read the reads I posted | ||
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On February 08 2018 19:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am confused by this because yes, if darthfoley is scum like you suggest it does make him mafia. Him being mafia does not mean your reason makes him mafia. Your reason makes no one mafia. It's like saying the sky is blue because it's full of blueberries. | ||
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On February 08 2018 20:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes very well thought out read, i can make a lot out of that. Best read ever \o/ | ||
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On February 08 2018 20:04 ritoky wrote: i could live in that world. dunno if i could live in the rsoul/mocsta world. that world seems too spicy. mocsta: "hey yo tina, you mind if i yell at you about an sk for like 20 pages." rsoul: "oh yeah let's do it." mocsta: "i'ma case you too gurrrrl you like mah case." rsoul: "put that thing away, but keep yelling!" I actually think scumming with mocsta would be super fun. All kinds of crazy shit going down. | ||
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-flicks- If you're town I'm going to enjoy post-game | ||
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On February 08 2018 20:18 Mocsta wrote: Well firstly, i take issue with the conversion town read. Lack of basis behind it and completely irrelevant to the main content of the post.. Its nitpicking but that should have been split off as a second post. Its like he wants that specifically in his filter, but to blend in. Then when talking to. hes addressing me in an odd way. Hes buttering me up, suggesting he town reads me and wants to let me down easy by saying, your case is crap! e.g. "you havent played much with tina so it makes sense you make a case like that"... for me this is totally illogical. a good point is a good point regardless of whom. So when he proceeds to continue the exact same points im getting alarm bells that this is non-genuine behaviour. see.. I think a town tunneled rayn would be more than happy i was riding the same direction.. whereas this scum!rayn is trying his best to accentuate his townish traits. Further, the item about damdred is stupid because as i pointed out prior, he answered the question for damdred, so the whole exchange is useless. The ritoky thing is acceptable to discuss, but not worthy of a scum read. To be fair, conversion was being discussed in the thread at the time and Joni had asked him a question. Also, maybe it's a lack of comprehension on my part but I don't recall you and Joni having the same reasons to scumread me? I thought you're was about fluidity while his was about how I treated him. I really don't like his defensiveness at my question when all he had to say was people weren't going with him in df and he had to leave, though. Also pointing to my vote moving off mderg where up until he suicides I'd been actively blocking shennannies talk. If he knew prp mentioned it, I find it strange that he didn't notice I said no to a Rels lynch right after. | ||
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On February 08 2018 20:44 Mocsta wrote: ermm. IIRC my entire point 1 was about the posts between you and him. doesnt really matter now game has well and truly moved on. as an aside, in case i bomb myself cos of a bus driver: main reason i dont think DF is scum is because as i said before, hes not confident as scum. last game,
his only other case was on btdt.. whom i suggested in the QT to attack everything else is defending his position on mocsta/btdt. this game he wrong about a lot, but has no fear to put himself out there. extremely town. Mm but but I like being right! Yeah I know that I need to revisit that. It's between him and Joni I think. Anyway, this is where I turn into a pumpkin. Toodles. May post over the next two days because I can't help myself but fully intending to spend as much time with Lex as possible. | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:40 Damdred wrote: I gave my first disformation townread before you reentered the thread yesterday after lynch btw. And honestly i dont even know what to think about you right now truthfully. Why were you so angry earlier? Unless I'm misunderstanding something, it doesn't align with what usually sets you off. Also I find it weird that you're not even considering a world where I'm town after townreading me earlier. Like I get that you think mderg is unlikely to do that if I'm town but you're good at reading me and I would at least expect some sort of consideration for multiple explanations even if you arrive at the same conclusions. Also, gg truffle | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:58 Mocsta wrote: What do you think? + Show Spoiler [my theory] + Is that Rayn is treating D2 like I did in the last game on D2 with HF (i.e. I wanted to intentionally shit the thread). I dont understand how anyone could find that contextually the most relevant post of 70+ pages to justify a lynch on. It is pretty awful, yes. Idk about intentionally shitting the thread though. This is fairly mild for Joni. | ||
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On February 09 2018 09:05 Mocsta wrote: to clarify, what is awful the <slip> or finding it the most relevant post? The scumread based on that in the first place. | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:35 Mocsta wrote: No, same situation as this game. Need in excess of 1 vote. The Disfo comments were a spit out from me without any filter diving Either way, im your 'pure" wagon town read, so why does it matter. This is my opinion as TOWN. perhaps you have come to the same conclusions as others on your own; but i still not identify any new insights. What do you agree about Rayn thought process? If its not clear to you, his top reads are rsoultin and mocsta. Or is it just the disinfo read that looks similar to yours? | ||
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