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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:01 GMT
#2301
I"ll do this in little parts while eating lasagna

On February 06 2018 07:00 darthfoley wrote:
I am here to say that I am confidently and graciously town

On February 06 2018 07:14 darthfoley wrote:
I would just like to say that I shamelessly agree with thread sentiment that rsoultin pointing out the SK thing in the way that she did is scummy

i generally skip past rayn's post because he takes four paragraphs to explain what could be explained in two sentences. public service announcement

The first 2 posts from darthfoley feel longwinded and bloated. He isn't in the moment playing the game, rather he takes an inactive role and just comments on things happening. The remark on rayn isn't helping anybody.
Imo these post are generally more likely to come from mafia than town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:11 GMT
#2302
I am not planning on commenting on every post he made but the next 3 are interesting as well.

On February 06 2018 07:15 darthfoley wrote:
Mocsta does not impress me so far

On February 06 2018 07:18 darthfoley wrote:
perhaps that's because he made like two posts about getting up and going back to bed that felt unnatural

On February 06 2018 11:22 darthfoley wrote:
Mocsta's ability to turn a few simple points into a wall of test is astounding.

Is this how he plays as Town? Cuz this reminds me exactly of last game


These 3 posts accumulate to nothing. df just played mafia together with Mocsta and again he just plays this on the sideways. There are 7(!) minutes between these posts. If you remove the middle post this looks fine except he doesn't pressure Mocsta. He asks the thread about something he should know best.

Like if df sees Mocsta play exactly like last time doesn't it more sense to say:
On February 06 2018 11:22 darthfoley wrote:
Mocsta's ability to turn a few simple points into a wall of test reminds me of last game in which he was mafia
Or does he do that as town as well?


The difference isn't big but how DF says it, it looks like the TMI kicks in and makes him go for Mocsta is town over Mocsta is mafia. Why not just mafia read mocsta?

And when confronted by Mocsta he just quotes himself unable to do more. It's his scumread pressuring him and he defends by just quoting himself:
On February 06 2018 11:31 darthfoley wrote:
Mocsta's ability to turn a few simple points into a wall of test is astounding.

Is this how he plays as Town? Cuz this reminds me exactly of last game



Really though time for DF to establish himself in this game. Why? He is confident as town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:16 GMT
#2303
On February 06 2018 11:48 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 11:39 Trfel wrote:
Hi. Darthfoley, what was about Mocsta's posts about going to bed that got to you so much? Doesn't have to be a long answer, I know you said they felt awkward but I'm not really seeing what you are at present.

I'll read Mocsta's case soon.


Basically if I were super tired and woke up to post, I would probably not make the second post with typos about going back to bed. For me, I would just be exhausted and fall asleep. The second post sounded like one of those "update on activity" posts mafia sometimes feel like they have to make



And when pressured by Tfrel he goes for the "joke" reason.
On February 06 2018 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 11:45 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:38 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:28 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:14 darthfoley wrote:
I would just like to say that I shamelessly agree with thread sentiment that rsoultin pointing out the SK thing in the way that she did is scummy

i generally skip past rayn's post because he takes four paragraphs to explain what could be explained in two sentences. public service announcement
More importantly; considering the bolb, what do you make of the interaction between rsoultin and I?


I don't think either of you look particularly townie, but she looks scummy. I kind of skip past lots of your wall of text posts.

Fwiw I think conversion's intro sounded kind of forced but the way rsoultin called it out seemed scummy. Like something opportunistic mafia might latch onto to have "something."

Waiting for half the game to play. I don't really have any Town reads yet
i dont understand how you can brush off what im writing: when you state i am possibly scum; and the person I am writing about looks scummy.

I dont have a problem if you think my "wall of text" is simple; but I would appreciate if you can highlight why that is so.


1. Rsoultin latched onto something opportunistic
2. She got defensive and pissy with questions to answer questions when called out
3. She hasn't really started snooping/being cocky yet (game is very young so this isn't a truly fair point)

On February 06 2018 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
See how succinct I made that post?

On February 06 2018 11:59 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 11:52 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:48 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:39 Trfel wrote:
Hi. Darthfoley, what was about Mocsta's posts about going to bed that got to you so much? Doesn't have to be a long answer, I know you said they felt awkward but I'm not really seeing what you are at present.

I'll read Mocsta's case soon.


Basically if I were super tired and woke up to post, I would probably not make the second post with typos about going back to bed. For me, I would just be exhausted and fall asleep. The second post sounded like one of those "update on activity" posts mafia sometimes feel like they have to make
This is peculiar reasoning as there are many reasons to explain what you observe. Im not sure why you are default latching onto worst-case option, in addition to not reading my content in detail.

Again.. why do you keep bringing up my previous game. What is actually similar to you?
You have slung shit, and now I would like you to back up the assertion.



Worst case scenario? Trfel asked me a question and I answered it briefly.

I haven't slung shit. I said you're reminding me of your recent scum game. I have stated why: your posts that are more than one paragraph are nitpicky and long winded for no reasons. Especially ironic considering you called Conversion nitpicky. This is why I asked if this is how you play town.

On February 06 2018 12:03 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 11:56 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:45 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:38 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:28 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:14 darthfoley wrote:
I would just like to say that I shamelessly agree with thread sentiment that rsoultin pointing out the SK thing in the way that she did is scummy

i generally skip past rayn's post because he takes four paragraphs to explain what could be explained in two sentences. public service announcement
More importantly; considering the bolb, what do you make of the interaction between rsoultin and I?


I don't think either of you look particularly townie, but she looks scummy. I kind of skip past lots of your wall of text posts.

Fwiw I think conversion's intro sounded kind of forced but the way rsoultin called it out seemed scummy. Like something opportunistic mafia might latch onto to have "something."

Waiting for half the game to play. I don't really have any Town reads yet
i dont understand how you can brush off what im writing: when you state i am possibly scum; and the person I am writing about looks scummy.

I dont have a problem if you think my "wall of text" is simple; but I would appreciate if you can highlight why that is so.


1. Rsoultin latched onto something opportunistic
2. She got defensive and pissy with questions to answer questions when called out
3. She hasn't really started snooping/being cocky yet (game is very young so this isn't a truly fair point)
I still dont understand.
On one hand rsoultin tells should not apply yet as game is young
On the other hand, mocsta tells apply because the game is young?

Again, you suggest mocsta and rsoultin are scummy.
You think the case is simple - is it intentionally flawed to bus; or accuse an innocent?


Could be either. I haven't decided yet. We're 12 hours in. Given our early debacle last game I would guess that you'd be less likely to throw shade at a partner early game, so that leads me to believe I'm wrong about one of you probably

On February 06 2018 12:03 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 11:59 Trfel wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:48 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:39 Trfel wrote:
Hi. Darthfoley, what was about Mocsta's posts about going to bed that got to you so much? Doesn't have to be a long answer, I know you said they felt awkward but I'm not really seeing what you are at present.

I'll read Mocsta's case soon.


Basically if I were super tired and woke up to post, I would probably not make the second post with typos about going back to bed. For me, I would just be exhausted and fall asleep. The second post sounded like one of those "update on activity" posts mafia sometimes feel like they have to make
You take this more seriously than Mocsta's drawing attention to rsoultin's comment about the serial killer?


No



Ok this sucks but these are all DF next posts. Pure defending against a scumread Mocsta. Also Tfrel entered the discussion.

Knowing that both Mocsta and Tfrel flipped town. We can assume that these town players pressured something they believed in. And I agree. This looks bad.

I wasn't here early game I think and I missed all this. I just skimmed and never read this properly because I saw 1 post I agreed with later and was stupid to take that to the bank.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:22 GMT
#2304
On February 07 2018 04:40 darthfoley wrote:
I like conversion, prplhz and rayn

I do not like rsoultin, Trfel and Mocsta.

To be clear, I am not claiming that they are all mafia together. But I think there's one, maybe two mafia in that. All others are somewhere in the null category

Another big problem I have with DF is that he keeps scumreading Mocsta but I never read why. He never ever states why unless we are going with that joke reason.


This is why:
1) ScumDF attacks Mocsta with shitty reasoning.
2) Mocsta attacks scum!DF for that.
3) ScumDF defends against Mocsta and keeps Mocsta as a scumread. No reasons except for the fact they argued.

On February 07 2018 04:49 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 17:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If df doesn't wanna talk about rsoultin that could even be okay but it seems like he doesn't wanna talk about anything at all. Yes it seems like he is scumreading rsoultin rn, but i don't really feel like he actually wants to lynch rsoultin (aka same way Mocsta and DF scumread each other last game).


You're wrong about this btw. I have no problem talking about people, or reading cases that make sense and are succinct in their points. This includes rsoultin, who I think is probably scum.

What I don't like or appreciate are long winded and bloviating cases in which someone makes circuitous arguments that could easily be summed up insofar as people miss or completely lose the point said individual is trying to make with their roundabout way of posting.

I'm proud of that example btw ^.

Mocsta uses 500 words to make a point that could be made in 50. It is my right to completely skip past his post if I should choose. But that is not the same as refusing to engage with the thread about the main "event" of the day. His posting reminds me of Shapelog in which his mafia strategy revolves around confusing or boring people to death by making long ass posts. It's how I felt he played last game, and I see similar methods in this game.

Very good post by rayn and look why DF is scumreading Mocsta. It's just based on the fact "Mocsta types many words guys". There is nothing else behind it. Nothing smart. Nothing. Just "Mocsta bores people with words"

Read rayn his post. It is also a good point.
I had a good night of sleep.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 13 2018 18:24 GMT
#2305
On February 13 2018 22:22 Koshi wrote:
## unvote
##vote darthfoley


Anyway. I am going to vote df.
He fell off hard after d1 and when I read his filter a while back I had an aha! moment.

He played around rayns flip pretty good though. The only thing I can fault him is not going after rayn at all. But in this situation I guess rayn wouldnt lie anyway maybe. Like vt rayn claiming parity...


lmao this is trash. I don't go after an un CC'd parity cop on D3 when no blues have flipped? Lolzzzz. Will be on in 5
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:26 GMT
#2306
On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this

Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky

prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF

Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia

Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin

I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign

His 2 biggest scumreads are the 2 mafia. The other 2 the players he argues the most with.
I rarely nail mafia this hard so fast. But DF does it without even talking about them. He just nails them while arguing and defending against Mocsta and Trfel.

Watch his filter. Nothing about mderg. NOTHING. (probably almost nothing but look at it)
A little bit about rsoultin but he is not talking to her.
He is not trying to convince the thread about these 2. He just nails the 2 flipped mafia.

And then Mocsta and Tfrel above that. Who were in my opinion very easy townreads.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:27 GMT
#2307
On February 08 2018 04:32 darthfoley wrote:
I think rsoultin has put in a lot of effort but I think it's kinda NAI. Last game she ran shit and let people know what they were doing based off of her.

This game she is letting her play be attached to other variables too much for my liking. (e.g. not being down to lynch me based off of ritoky's read on me. I think i've played with ritoky like once or twice.)

For my science nerds out there: last game rsoultin's play was the independent variable; this game it feels like the dependent variable.

Called out on his list?
What a scumread...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:33 GMT
#2308
Ok. The flip came and df always thought rsoultin is mafia.
But look at the next 5 posts. Nothing indicates he lives in a world in which rsoultin is mafia.
He just does analysis based on the fact rsoultin is a 50/50.

rayn always kept believing rsoultin is mafia and should die.

On February 08 2018 05:10 darthfoley wrote:
If rsoultin is town, we're in good shape.

If rsoultin is mafia, we're in even better shape.




On February 08 2018 05:21 darthfoley wrote:
Mderg explanations:

1. rsoultin is roleblocker
2. mderg really thought he could pull a WIFOM into shenannie thing on me
3. he was just fucking around to create some paranoia after flip.

On February 08 2018 05:11 darthfoley wrote:
Mocsta and Koshi also look good because of the flip I think

On February 08 2018 05:13 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn/Damdred don't look very good tbh.

Rayn committed to df/rsoultin only when it's very close
Damdred votes rsoultin last minute when it's very close



BUT LOOK!!!!!
darthfoley believes rsoultin is mafia. Because the "somehow"

On February 08 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote:
if somehow rsoultin is town, this game becomes a little spicy






Darthfoley is not making consistent posts. He is mafia and has major difficulties letting townie bias shine through!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:35 GMT
#2309
On February 08 2018 07:55 darthfoley wrote:
This lynch is weird because it makes rsoultin terrible but gives town cred to so many people.

wtf is this comment. Isn't scummy but weird. I don't get it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:37 GMT
#2310
On February 08 2018 05:08 darthfoley wrote:
Framer/RB/Goon?

roleblocker!rsoultin

ez game ez life

On February 08 2018 08:26 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 08:14 Mocsta wrote:
On February 08 2018 08:04 Koshi wrote:
The lynch pool for tomorrow is always rayn/damdred/conversion.

The vigi should shoot into rayn/damdred

The cop shoot investigate into rayn/damdred/rsoultin/conversion (btw if you are cop there is a miller, don't claim d2 or I murder you)

The doc should save me. But he wont. Cuz that is how life goes.
thats interesting actually.
framer probably makes it unlikely that there is a godfather. but to compensate, a miller could make a lot of sense.
If so, well played Koshi. Last time I was self-aware miller, I claimed in first post. But you played it well. I have no doubt if you came up red that you are town.

im hesitant for vig to fire tonight on possibility of SK.
Could potentially lose 3 townies in 1 night.. I think risk is too high.
Its highly likely mafia still have an RB.. which is more valuable than framer because of SK and is probably rsoultin lololololol.. explains the immediate early day1 draw to SK insertion.


The setup is almost surely framer/RB/goon vs. cop/vigi, medic or something. SK in a normal 13 man mini is highly unlikely and idk why people keep bringing it up. I've already said rsoultin is likely RB



Also just weird imo. The first post is from right after the flip. Before those 5 quotes in which he does analysis as if rsoultin is a 50/50.

Pretty sure this is a TMI thing. He knows he is wrong and therefore he is confident in saying that first quote about rsoultin being RB. But at the same time he shouldn't know there is a RB.

I KNOW that this isn't a slip or something. But this is what mafia does.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:39 GMT
#2311
On February 08 2018 13:02 darthfoley wrote:
i'm just gonna say mafia is something like

rayn/rsoultin
rayn/rels slot
rayn/conversion

idk. rayn is back to looking bad now

+ Show Spoiler +
in b4 he posts an essay about how bad we are for scum reading him

This is also weird. rayn + rsoultin team? And why isn't rsoultin mafia anymore?
Nothing in his filter about it.
I had a good night of sleep.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 13 2018 18:41 GMT
#2312
On February 14 2018 03:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this

Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky

prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF

Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia

Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin

I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign

His 2 biggest scumreads are the 2 mafia. The other 2 the players he argues the most with.
I rarely nail mafia this hard so fast. But DF does it without even talking about them. He just nails them while arguing and defending against Mocsta and Trfel.

Watch his filter. Nothing about mderg. NOTHING. (probably almost nothing but look at it)
A little bit about rsoultin but he is not talking to her.
He is not trying to convince the thread about these 2. He just nails the 2 flipped mafia.

And then Mocsta and Tfrel above that. Who were in my opinion very easy townreads.


Sorry I had better reads than you this game. You're trying to fit everything I have done into a narrative that I'm scum. So ironic. Just accept that I have played better than you this game
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 13 2018 18:43 GMT
#2313
On February 14 2018 03:27 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:32 darthfoley wrote:
I think rsoultin has put in a lot of effort but I think it's kinda NAI. Last game she ran shit and let people know what they were doing based off of her.

This game she is letting her play be attached to other variables too much for my liking. (e.g. not being down to lynch me based off of ritoky's read on me. I think i've played with ritoky like once or twice.)

For my science nerds out there: last game rsoultin's play was the independent variable; this game it feels like the dependent variable.

Called out on his list?
What a scumread...


This was actually exactly what rsoultin was doing. It's just a good read. I really don't understand how you make this scummy somehow
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 13 2018 18:44 GMT
#2314
On February 14 2018 03:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this

Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky

prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF

Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia

Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin

I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign

His 2 biggest scumreads are the 2 mafia. The other 2 the players he argues the most with.
I rarely nail mafia this hard so fast. But DF does it without even talking about them. He just nails them while arguing and defending against Mocsta and Trfel.


Watch his filter. Nothing about mderg. NOTHING. (probably almost nothing but look at it)
A little bit about rsoultin but he is not talking to her.
He is not trying to convince the thread about these 2. He just nails the 2 flipped mafia.

And then Mocsta and Tfrel above that. Who were in my opinion very easy townreads.


Make this your signature if/when I flip town please
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:45 GMT
#2315
On February 10 2018 09:16 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to talk directly to you Holyflare because talking to Koshi is like talking to a brick. It is quite funny actually that when Koshi happens to be right D1, if he doesn't die during night 1 the town is more likely to lose the game since he feels like a champion and completely unable to listen to anyone else. I tried for a while during N1 but then i decided to throw because i never even got to my point Koshi just pushed whatever he thinks was the correct idea. I am gonna try once more, if this goes to deaf ears then for all i care you can murder me because i don't really feel like playing let's see if Koshi finds mafia game.

What i tried to heavily imply during night 1 is to not cop check rsoultin. I am not sure if there is a normal cop who checked rsoultin but a green on her should always be claimed (obviously red too -- but green yes, only on her). The reason is that rsoultin, if not confirmed green, is always the bast lynch D2. It doesn't even fucking matter if she flips town. Always lynch the counter-wagon who mafia refused to vote on to save themselves, always.

Option 1: rsoultin flips town
We can, in this situation always assume that everyone on mderg wagon are town. Mocsta could maybe bus but who cares, that's for later, never care about that until lylo. That leaves the following people, who either voted for rsoultin or off-wagon:

Damdred
darthfoley
disformation
Conversion
raynpelikoneet
prplhz

You have a pool of 6 people who can be mafia.
- If you have 2 blues in those, game over. Town wins.
- If you have 1 blue in those, game over, town wins (2 lynches until lylo and mislynch every time -> 2 mafia 1 town in that pool in lylo) almost always, only retarded town loses here.
- If you have zero blues there you have to actually make reads..... Let's see what we have here very quickly:

Damdred - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
darthfoley - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
disformation - hasn't said anything, i don't even know if he has scumreads
Conversion - Koshi sheeple and master of inconsistancies
raynpelikoneet - you can think whatever you want
prplhz - he could have technically even saved mderg with him, so is extremely unlike to be mafia

The thing is, if you can even rule out ONE person there, who isn't mafia, you win the game. I can rule out fucking 3, easily. The dudes who push the anti-mafia idea. Ironically Koshi's lynch list at the moment is the three people who push the correct town play aka me/df/damdred. So yeah, go listen to Koshi if you want to.

Option 2: rsoultin flips mafia
Game opens up a lot, but who cares, we lynched mafia.




The thing is Holyflare, rn three people say very very stupid stuff. rsoultin, Mocsta and disformation.

disformation made a post where he suggested that i am mafia and i was either trying to bus df (over rsoultin lynch), or trying to find an alternative lynch. Vote situation at the time 5 on rsoultin, some random 1's on some random other people. You srsly think that conclusion makes any fucking sense in any world at all? Then there is his conversion read and how he ended up reading conversion and how he ended up explaining himself after. It smells super fucking bs.

I genuinely believe Mocsta has slipped. Deal with it. I could possibly back off from that but everything that comes out of his keyboard so far is either copy of someone else or taking some post and inventing a (horrible) scum reasoning for it. Then there is the post where his #1 scumread (me) tells him that, and he somehow gets offended??? OF course i am trying to shit on his reads if i am mafia. I get Damdred getting emotionally "too invested" in the game and taking offense on something he shouldn't, but Mocsta, who himself continuosly tells other people they are bad? No fucking way.

I don't even care to write about rsoultin because i don't see a single townie thing she has done this game. Koshi sees all the townie things ofc but i don't, so there is that.




I only made my promise to Koshi because i was very annoyed at him, and i still am. If you happen to realize i have all day been sarcastic about it. I don't care what Koshi says, i don't care what he does, he can try to solve the game by himself if he wants to. Maybe he even can. But that will happen without me as he doesn't do anything but shit on everything someone he doesn't like in this game for whatever reason says.

So yeah, there is that.

#unvote
##vote rsoultin

I don't care what alignment she is, it is just the correct play based on D1 end.
Do whatever you want to, my vote stays.


Maybe I sheep you. Idk if you are ever mafia with this post.


On February 10 2018 23:34 darthfoley wrote:
Koshi is wrong about me. His point about me forgetting rsoultin could be mafia is just Donald trump levels Wrong! "I forgot how hard he tr her" ?????? Please quote me that because I'm pretty sure it never happened

He's also now using this "his post style is not succinct" argument which he hasn't used against anyone else in the game.

Hopefully this doesn't make him mafia, it just makes him stupid.

Disformation reminds me of Mocsta last game but with better posts. I haven't read his filter carefully but he could be mafia.

I'm fine with rsoultin/Damdred being the lynch but I'm voting rsoultin because she is still complaining about things that just aren't true (e.g. Town is being lazy today ?????). I have not gotten any vibes that she is trying to solve game. Plus she unvoted mderg first and that whole EoD. If damdred dies, that's fine too.

##vote: rsoultin


Even though DF has scumread rsoultin the entire game. He never tried to make the thread vote rsoultin. He votes rsoultin here but what else could he do? He townread Damdred a couple times before this. The fact he is now "fine" with a Damdred lynch is just BULLSHIT.

I can pull quotes in which he calls damdred townish.
On February 09 2018 07:59 darthfoley wrote:
What I don't understand is why scum!Damdred votes rsoultin at 5v3. I think it would make a lot more sense in that scenario to just hammer mderg and try to gain town cred from it.

If Damdred is scum, his vote + Mderg's lack of vote on rsoultin is probably the least optimal play ever. I just don't get it

and the one in which rayn is mafia with 3 people. But no damdred!
I had a good night of sleep.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 13 2018 18:46 GMT
#2316
On February 14 2018 03:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 04:40 darthfoley wrote:
I like conversion, prplhz and rayn

I do not like rsoultin, Trfel and Mocsta.

To be clear, I am not claiming that they are all mafia together. But I think there's one, maybe two mafia in that. All others are somewhere in the null category

Another big problem I have with DF is that he keeps scumreading Mocsta but I never read why. He never ever states why unless we are going with that joke reason.


This is why:
1) ScumDF attacks Mocsta with shitty reasoning.
2) Mocsta attacks scum!DF for that.
3) ScumDF defends against Mocsta and keeps Mocsta as a scumread. No reasons except for the fact they argued.

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 04:49 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 17:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If df doesn't wanna talk about rsoultin that could even be okay but it seems like he doesn't wanna talk about anything at all. Yes it seems like he is scumreading rsoultin rn, but i don't really feel like he actually wants to lynch rsoultin (aka same way Mocsta and DF scumread each other last game).


You're wrong about this btw. I have no problem talking about people, or reading cases that make sense and are succinct in their points. This includes rsoultin, who I think is probably scum.

What I don't like or appreciate are long winded and bloviating cases in which someone makes circuitous arguments that could easily be summed up insofar as people miss or completely lose the point said individual is trying to make with their roundabout way of posting.

I'm proud of that example btw ^.

Mocsta uses 500 words to make a point that could be made in 50. It is my right to completely skip past his post if I should choose. But that is not the same as refusing to engage with the thread about the main "event" of the day. His posting reminds me of Shapelog in which his mafia strategy revolves around confusing or boring people to death by making long ass posts. It's how I felt he played last game, and I see similar methods in this game.

Very good post by rayn and look why DF is scumreading Mocsta. It's just based on the fact "Mocsta types many words guys". There is nothing else behind it. Nothing smart. Nothing. Just "Mocsta bores people with words"

Read rayn his post. It is also a good point.


I made it abundantly clear why I was wary of scum!Mocsta at the time. I felt like his posts were much ado about nothing. He used the strategy of talking so much you bore everyone last game and I felt like he was nitpicking random points that were inconsequential early D1 this game. I've said 100 times that scum!Mocsta reminds me of a less spammy scum!Shapelog.

Now I realize he does this as either alignment. I do this crazy thing where when I get new information, I change my opinion accordingly. You should try it
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:48 GMT
#2317
On February 12 2018 03:45 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Df who mafia?

Disfo who mafia?


I think rayn, mocsta, and Damdred are town. Prplhz is also probably town

Mafia lies somewhere between you, disformation, koshi and Conversion

More damdred is town



Like the only reason Damdred was ever a second mafia to DF is because rsoultin is his mafia partner
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:49 GMT
#2318
DF, I am 100% sure you are mafia.


Town can do w.e they want. But I am sure now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:49 GMT
#2319
Lately DF has been calling me mafia. And calling HF mafia.

I am done.

Should be enough.

DF is mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 13 2018 18:50 GMT
#2320
and I am 100% certain.
I had a good night of sleep.
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