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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 08:19 GMT
#1139
Why is he one of your top townreads? The case on me looked good, I read him town for it (too?) But really it could be summed up by she seems stiffer.

And yeah I just don't see that emotion coming from town. It's so over the top. He'd barely been mentioned as a scumspect, and just been accused of being too emotionless.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 08:24 GMT
#1141
Nh. Idk I find the outburst hard to get past. I hear you on why not mderg, but the other part is hed just gone to the trouble of saying that this looked like mderg's town game. Could be he didn't know how to shift his read, especially given I don't think he ever had a reason to townread me.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 08:25 GMT
#1143
On February 08 2018 17:23 Holyflare wrote:
He does it almost every game?


Like this? I mean I remember a shitfight with btdt I think...maybe I should find that game again.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 08:28 GMT
#1144
On February 08 2018 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
It's probably frustrating to try and better yourself and your play to be met with the same results that you had previously.


What, two people scumreading him? I think it was just koshi and mocsta.

I know that emotions aren't logical by definition but I usually find the reasons for them make sense.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 08:32 GMT
#1145
I'm going to shamelessly afk for the next two days or so because Lex just came off two weeks of night shifts.

Have a little more time before he's up from his nap though so anyone wanting rsoul time should take advantage of it now
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 08:49 GMT
#1148
On February 08 2018 17:35 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 17:24 rsoultin wrote:
Nh. Idk I find the outburst hard to get past. I hear you on why not mderg, but the other part is hed just gone to the trouble of saying that this looked like mderg's town game. Could be he didn't know how to shift his read, especially given I don't think he ever had a reason to townread me.
Wait you're right mderg was town last game >< All the same I stand by it. Post #717 (list post thing) is where he says mderg looked the same as his town game, but #719 and #780 could have led to a read flip IMO. Hm, looking deeper...

Seems he committed to staying on rsoultin at about the same time mderg switched his vote from rsoultin to darthfoley. However, mderg said "I think my rsoultin scumread may actually be stupid here" 13 minutes previously. That's a huge, huge, huge miscommunication if they're mafia together. And if mafia was really trying to keep mderg alive, they could have asked mderg to vote to save himself; no one can ever be blamed for voting to save themself. I stand by the read.

Like, if they're mafia together, then Conversion did set himself up for either voting mderg or rsoultin. He still went the opposite direction as mderg did. That's not a result of not knowing how to switch, that would only be the result of an incredible mafia team breakdown that I don't think is likely at all (much less something to scumread Conversion over).

You might be right actually.

I really don't see a scum Damdred though. The way he whined for my attention is just not something I see him doing when he knows how well I read him. Also, his vote on me makes just as little sense.

I could see one scum between df/rayn assuming I was wrong on rayn, but not both. If Joni is scum the df lynch would be trying to push someone when the lynch on me started losing traction. I don't think they can ever be scum together.

Your point on disinfo was good. I was liking him alright because it seemed like the lynch energized him, and hadn't thought about him following the game before.

That just puts him at null though. Also kinda liking prp.

Hf is always town here. Still like ritoky.

If koshi is scum he's pocketed me so hard lol.

You're posting smart truffle thoughts.

As for mocsta...he's probably just town but I don't think I'll ever be sure of him.

So in short unless I'm forgetting someone I must be wrong on my reads somewhere.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 08:50 GMT
#1149
On February 08 2018 17:43 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 17:28 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
It's probably frustrating to try and better yourself and your play to be met with the same results that you had previously.


What, two people scumreading him? I think it was just koshi and mocsta.

I know that emotions aren't logical by definition but I usually find the reasons for them make sense.


He's done it to one person so yes?


Lol fair ><

Sorry conversion, I didn't mean to belittle your feelings if they're real.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 09:04 GMT
#1153
On February 08 2018 18:02 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 17:28 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
It's probably frustrating to try and better yourself and your play to be met with the same results that you had previously.


What, two people scumreading him? I think it was just koshi and mocsta.

I know that emotions aren't logical by definition but I usually find the reasons for them make sense.

*cough* *cough*
but its cool. i gave all my creds to koshi already.

confused why conv arbitrarily decided im tpwn gor it when he has mocsta and koshi as scum. or omgus targets.

Lol you're right I totally forgot you were talking about it first.

Yeah he was never calling them scum just...yeah. I'm not going to inflame that.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 09:11 GMT
#1157
On February 08 2018 18:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:54 prplhz wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Never ever let that slide. Please. Mafia dude refuses to save himself and so does the counter wagon. Both mafia.

Eh I don't think mafia!rsoultin would do that except to throw people off or something. If anything, she plays to win, always.

I like you. I like you a lot.

See Koshi here. " If anything, she plays to win, always."
So playing to win is refusing to save herself over a guy who she has mafiaread just a while ago and the only reason not to is that mderg doesn't want to save himself??????

I've literally done this before.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 09:17 GMT
#1158
On February 08 2018 18:11 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 18:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:54 prplhz wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Never ever let that slide. Please. Mafia dude refuses to save himself and so does the counter wagon. Both mafia.

Eh I don't think mafia!rsoultin would do that except to throw people off or something. If anything, she plays to win, always.

I like you. I like you a lot.

See Koshi here. " If anything, she plays to win, always."
So playing to win is refusing to save herself over a guy who she has mafiaread just a while ago and the only reason not to is that mderg doesn't want to save himself??????

I've literally done this before.

Or I misremembered nvm. For some reason I thought I did this my first game here with HTS.

Regardless, who else is scum?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 09:36 GMT
#1164
On February 08 2018 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred, Conversion or disformation can be mafia i agree, if you are not. But rn i don't have any reason to think you're not mafia. I am a bit confused, are you scumreading me or not?


I'm not as convinced you're town as most of my other townreads, and I think there's scum between you and Darth Foley. The mderg read was bad. I also don't understand your reaction to my df filter dive at all.

I quote my read that was already posted and you apparently missed to you and you insta-vote me without explanation?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 09:38 GMT
#1165
On February 08 2018 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta. I genuinely believe Mocsta slipped because he has slipped like that before.


Also, what slip? Not that I really understood what you and Rels thought was a slip last game, but still.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 09:44 GMT
#1166
On February 08 2018 18:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 06:50 Mocsta wrote:
On February 08 2018 06:46 ritoky wrote:
casually lynching mafia on my birthday.

framer implies cop. cop should be on rsoul, green gives us 6 or 7 confirmed. red gives us 2 mafia in 2 days; both are pretty unlosable scenarios.

gonna try to finish my nap before birthday dinner, cya tomorrow.

Love it

<b>bomb: damdred</b>

uh oh... now i kinda think you're mafia.
you've done this before when you write into mafia qt and then come to thread and forget which tags to use.


Oh this lol. It went into the white noise part of my brain. If it's true it's kinda funny but I've done this like a million times myself because I posted on other forums that don't use the brackets so eh
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 09:56 GMT
#1167
Zzzz
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 10:13 GMT
#1172
On February 08 2018 19:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 18:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred, Conversion or disformation can be mafia i agree, if you are not. But rn i don't have any reason to think you're not mafia. I am a bit confused, are you scumreading me or not?


I'm not as convinced you're town as most of my other townreads, and I think there's scum between you and Darth Foley. The mderg read was bad. I also don't understand your reaction to my df filter dive at all.

I quote my read that was already posted and you apparently missed to you and you insta-vote me without explanation?

See here is the thing - aside from all the mderg stuff.

mderg read was bad... yeah ofc because he was scum, your read on mderg though, was that good? And your vote, yeah i guess it was really good or what?

I think you're totally misinterpreting why i was voting for you. What i said early on in the game didn't go anywhere but somehow you magically just discard that. Then there is what Holyflare said, the post i quoted from him. I think it was a good summary of your play after i told you to go look for mafia. And yes, i don't remember your df post. If you made on it was not either convincing, or you didn't actually try to do anything with it. I went to your filter to confirm and at p4-5 yes you made a post on df but you seem more interested in talking about anything else than df. That doesn't resonate at all with what you did for example with Damerion or even df last game. So no, i don't believe yo uactually strongly thought he was mafia and if you didn't, it doesn't mean shit regarding my read on you since it is as likely you're just throwing shade as scum than it is that you are actually trying to scumhunt -- from my perspective i can't tell the difference so i find it extremely unfair you are trying to say i should have somehow seen it given that i already scumread you before.

Holy defensive batman, lol.

You asked about my read on you. I have it and why I wasn't townreadin you as much as my other t townreads.

How do you get me saying you were only scumreading me because you didn't see my df read from that? I just wanted to know where the insta vote came from.

Which you still haven't explained by the way.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 10:18 GMT
#1174
On February 08 2018 19:15 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 17:49 rsoultin wrote:
[..]
As for mocsta...he's probably just town but I don't think I'll ever be sure of him.
[..]
Tina, im quite tired of hearing this. Let me (attempt) to put your mind at ease.

Last game, i made 2 wall of text posts. One was to vote damdred, and the other was in Lylo as a reply.

Please re look at that vote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/529865-newbie-student-mafia-xxviii?page=12#226

Please look at the wall of text in this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=6#119

They are not the same whatsoever.

You are getting too fixated on a specific event (large post), and not being rational towards whether they are similar.

You say me as a good town should back off from you.. well guess what, i did.
No matter I have done, you continue to be fearful.

I could have easily left my vote on you last night.. however I did not.
Unless you genuinely think there is even a 5% chance I bussed, you need to get over this.



-pokes- You're confusing my issue with you with someone else. I've maintained from the beginning that this seems like NAI posting style.

My issues with you are only little doubtful tickles that aren't worth repeating unless I can't find scum elsewhere.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 10:22 GMT
#1175
On February 08 2018 19:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 19:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 08 2018 18:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred, Conversion or disformation can be mafia i agree, if you are not. But rn i don't have any reason to think you're not mafia. I am a bit confused, are you scumreading me or not?


I'm not as convinced you're town as most of my other townreads, and I think there's scum between you and Darth Foley. The mderg read was bad. I also don't understand your reaction to my df filter dive at all.

I quote my read that was already posted and you apparently missed to you and you insta-vote me without explanation?

See here is the thing - aside from all the mderg stuff.

mderg read was bad... yeah ofc because he was scum, your read on mderg though, was that good? And your vote, yeah i guess it was really good or what?

I think you're totally misinterpreting why i was voting for you. What i said early on in the game didn't go anywhere but somehow you magically just discard that. Then there is what Holyflare said, the post i quoted from him. I think it was a good summary of your play after i told you to go look for mafia. And yes, i don't remember your df post. If you made on it was not either convincing, or you didn't actually try to do anything with it. I went to your filter to confirm and at p4-5 yes you made a post on df but you seem more interested in talking about anything else than df. That doesn't resonate at all with what you did for example with Damerion or even df last game. So no, i don't believe yo uactually strongly thought he was mafia and if you didn't, it doesn't mean shit regarding my read on you since it is as likely you're just throwing shade as scum than it is that you are actually trying to scumhunt -- from my perspective i can't tell the difference so i find it extremely unfair you are trying to say i should have somehow seen it given that i already scumread you before.

Holy defensive batman, lol.

You asked about my read on you. I have it and why I wasn't townreadin you as much as my other t townreads.

How do you get me saying you were only scumreading me because you didn't see my df read from that? I just wanted to know where the insta vote came from.

Which you still haven't explained by the way.


To be clear I had you as town from your pushes on both me and df. It's the sort of psuhes I never like from you because I feel that you only catch scum that way by accident. But they're pushes that often come from a town Joni.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 10:31 GMT
#1178
Prp was never in danger of being lynched.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 10:36 GMT
#1182
On February 08 2018 19:26 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 19:18 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 19:15 Mocsta wrote:
On February 08 2018 17:49 rsoultin wrote:
[..]
As for mocsta...he's probably just town but I don't think I'll ever be sure of him.
[..]
Tina, im quite tired of hearing this. Let me (attempt) to put your mind at ease.

Last game, i made 2 wall of text posts. One was to vote damdred, and the other was in Lylo as a reply.

Please re look at that vote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/529865-newbie-student-mafia-xxviii?page=12#226

Please look at the wall of text in this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/530739-vendée-globe-16-mafia?page=6#119

They are not the same whatsoever.

You are getting too fixated on a specific event (large post), and not being rational towards whether they are similar.

You say me as a good town should back off from you.. well guess what, i did.
No matter I have done, you continue to be fearful.

I could have easily left my vote on you last night.. however I did not.
Unless you genuinely think there is even a 5% chance I bussed, you need to get over this.



-pokes- You're confusing my issue with you with someone else. I've maintained from the beginning that this seems like NAI posting style.

My issues with you are only little doubtful tickles that aren't worth repeating unless I can't find scum elsewhere.
i dont want to shit the thread with this.. im saying. look at the two posts.. its actually 100% ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE.

anyways, if its of any consolation I am finding you starting to have that aura back.

If you're town this game, which I still think is more likely than not, it may well be. They're at the very least cosmetically different lol. It's kind of cute how much you want me to stop having doubts on you. Kinda puppyish. <- That honestly means more to me than differences in wall posts when I haven't done a meta dive on you.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 10:39 GMT
#1183
On February 08 2018 19:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 19:13 rsoultin wrote:
How do you get me saying you were only scumreading me because you didn't see my df read from that? I just wanted to know where the insta vote came from.

Which you still haven't explained by the way.

Because that's what you said?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I honestly can't believe you are so close-minded you can't figure out my vote came from like 20 of the same posts i made on you and the fact i said here:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 17:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 07 2018 17:45 rsoultin wrote:
If you guys want to vote me, fine. Lynch me for closure. But I don't want any more talk about me today so that I can focus and have a chance of actually leaving good reads behind.

My problem is that i told you this like 100 hours ago -- after my push was initially that lead to all these people scumreading you, and you managed to do absolutely nothing after. So can you start now instead of still jsut complaining about ppl scumreading you? Sorry if i sound offensive, i don't mean to.

I wrote this AFTER i voted for you.

I cannot believe you cannot connect these two things to why i was voting for you and instead you invent a "wow i can't see why he is voting for me" narrative. If you think my reasoning is bs then just say so, but don't say you dont know what my reasoning is because my filter up to that point is 90% of why i think you're scum.

I'm finding it really difficult to believe that you honestly can't figure out that I'm asking about your sudden switch from df back to me. It looked impulsive. How hard is that to explain?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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