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On February 13 2018 04:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
darthfoley i refuse to believe the only thing Koshi does on D1 is to make a case (well technically that was only a "case" since there was none) on his mafia partner and never let go of it.
I think HF is more likely, but frankly i'm thoroughly unimpressed by either if they're mafia. They really messed up D1.
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On February 12 2018 17:24 Koshi wrote:
He is town doc. No worries.
rayn played his checks ok-ish.
Problem is df either called his bluff or Damdred played his hearth out yesterday.
Implies he still thinks mafia is between me and Damdred. Rayn just makes a case on HF and Koshi forgets this completely
On February 12 2018 21:47 Koshi wrote:
Well....
rayn made a pretty good case.
And ritoky is pretty chill
##vote hf
On February 12 2018 21:58 Koshi wrote:
If you are town I resect you as a human being and I think you played a great game hf.
Wtf is this progression? So basically Koshi is lynching HF for playing a great town game?
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On February 09 2018 17:44 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 07:59 darthfoley wrote:
What I don't understand is why scum!Damdred votes rsoultin at 5v3. I think it would make a lot more sense in that scenario to just hammer mderg and try to gain town cred from it.
If Damdred is scum, his vote + Mderg's lack of vote on rsoultin is probably the least optimal play ever. I just don't get it Bad post. And the next 5 were also besides every point in the world.
On February 09 2018 18:03 Koshi wrote:
Like he doesnt understand something that is very easy to find 5 million reasons for to understand.
But that is even besides the point. DF doesnt open a door that it could be something like bad play or w.e the fuck.
DF also completely ignores the fact rsoultin is maybe mafia. He tr Damdred based on an unflipped player her alignment. And he himself voted rsoultin. I forgot how hard he tr her now.
DF also doesnt want to figure out this little riddle why Damdred did what he did. He just doesnt get it and closes his mind off to a solution.
And the worst thing. That post is not succint at all. I can say all that in 1 sentence. "Damdred play was not optimal if he is mafia with mderg, it was better to hammer mderg"
There is sooooooo much more wrong with that post but I am not typing more on mobile.
On February 10 2018 23:34 darthfoley wrote:
Koshi is wrong about me. His point about me forgetting rsoultin could be mafia is just Donald trump levels Wrong! "I forgot how hard he tr her" ?????? Please quote me that because I'm pretty sure it never happened
He's also now using this "his post style is not succinct" argument which he hasn't used against anyone else in the game.
Hopefully this doesn't make him mafia, it just makes him stupid.
Disformation reminds me of Mocsta last game but with better posts. I haven't read his filter carefully but he could be mafia.
I'm fine with rsoultin/Damdred being the lynch but I'm voting rsoultin because she is still complaining about things that just aren't true (e.g. Town is being lazy today ?????). I have not gotten any vibes that she is trying to solve game. Plus she unvoted mderg first and that whole EoD. If damdred dies, that's fine too.
##vote: rsoultin
Basically this. I just think this accusation and D2 push on me is utter garbage made off of one post that isn't even bad like he claims.
I give Damdred credit as not a braindead mafia player, so his vote would've been much better served on mderg or something. His vote on rsoultin accomplishes nothing.
I forget ritoky is in this game man, holy shit
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Like there is so much wrong with the middle post now that I reread it. My god that is a bad post
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I'm going to read through Damdred's filter now.
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Damdred's vote on rsoultin D1 is so out of left field. I don't understand why it happens. Talks about how her posts have looked better since he came into the game. He claims it was to consolidate on rsoultin but he also says he did it with a couple seconds left, so what point is there in "consolidating?" Not much. Looks pretty useless.
But why wouldn't scum!Damdred play the part of HF and just hammer scum!mderg at 5 votes to 3 Mderg > scum!rsoultin? Is he afraid it might look like prime town cred claiming?
Why is rsoultin allergic to voting the counterwagon for survival? D1 she refused to vote mderg and did some half assed attempt at shenannies onto me. D2 she refuses to vote for Damdred and instead votes for me with Koshi.
+ Show Spoiler +Before I amswer disformation about my lunch choices for tommorow I should give some reads that i think you would ask about next. These are not in order
Town:
Holyflare
Mocsta
Koshi
Ritoky
Trfel
These five are what I consider the pure wagon, I dont believe that a mafia was on mderg especialy with how thw votes landed.
Town Reads:
Disformation
Conversion
Rayn
Idk maybe?
prp
scum
DF
Rsoultin
Im just gling to write a general overview of my view of the game.
First scum reads. I really believe that my first assessment of the vote is correct. The mderg wagon is pure and we had two scum up for lynch in mderg/rsoultin. Hence why they both moved near the same time for thw same reason when people were softing about jumping off.
It makes the most sense why mderg just doesnt stay on rsoultin and hopes she gets another vote while she starts being suicidal.
I know HF and others have talked about this so I don't want to beat a dead horse. It's just my first time in 4 days that i'm not on mobile so I can finally read some things. Damdred's analysis on "pure wagons" is just bad and illogical in every way. If mderg vs. rsoultin is SvS, it's actually more likely that rsoultin's wagon is pure, not mderg's. But in all likelihood, neither are pure. His defense for this (and it takes a tempter tantrum to occur to even get an explanation) is that rsoultin's wagon isn't pure because i'm on it... kind of circular logic there.
Damdred's reason to scum read me:I thought i did explaim about df, he fought woth hf and i thought the fight disnt feel like t v t. hf came out looking better. df has been misconstruing different things to make people look bad, me and my vote for reasons that arent teue, hf in the fight.
One of the things ive tried to read df as, as s um is hes a bit more hostile as scum than town I think. So it sort of fits here to.
This is pretty weak sauce. He says that i'm misconstruing things. I realized that I was wrong about his vote timing, and I admit that I was wrong. He's also brought up like 50 times his vote timing. It almost feels like he's trying to get reverse psychology town cred.
On February 09 2018 10:19 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 10:07 Mocsta wrote:On February 09 2018 09:55 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2018 09:51 Mocsta wrote:On February 09 2018 09:49 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2018 09:47 rsoultin wrote:On February 09 2018 09:42 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2018 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence? Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to say here? i dont know what im doimg wrong and why people cant understand me.... Well, I would like a position on Rayn dropping all happenings in the game, to call me scum for writing <b>bomb</b>. Try to factor out your position on me please. eh regardless of anything else i think its wrong and really thin. imma make a bet with you. rayn is going to come back and claim cop and claim red. I will claim I am not a self-aware miller (obviously that is Koshi). Roflcoptors will be posted. Now in all seriousness. I am reviewing trfel filter, and am writing something in advance of my post release. I am willing to open myself to considering DF. Can you summarise for me why he is scum; and its really important to me, to understand what is similar about him this game to the previous game. Whether right or wrong, i that forms intrinsic value for me. DF is antagonistic in his scum game, for example I was getting warm on putting his partner calix up for lynch. He would then take little things and force a argument/fight to get me ofd the track I wanted to go on. It was extremely reminiscent of what he did against hf. He took a small thing and turned it into a larger thing and diverted the thread from discussinf the lynch into who cased tina first. It was pointless did not help town. Also as town he is usually what i consider a trailblazer. Mafia shoots him a lot early for beong right or looking in strange places. Here I sort od feel he just exists pretty static and hes sidelined. Now I think this is fair to say df was active eod however what he did, did not help scum either... but who knew that hf wasnt goingb to go rs. @hf could probably answer if df pushed him away from voting tina at all though.
This is actually a much better scum read on me. It actually sounds like a legitimate read. Overall, Damdred is a mixed bag with lots of reasons to be scum. His illogical/random play may fit a little better with how disorganized the scum game was.
Maybe Koshi isn't mafia. Hf/Damdred makes sense
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On February 13 2018 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
I appreciate your style df.
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If there's a roleblocker, we don't get another check off so idk why y'all are on autopilot.
And a roleblocker is likely if prplhz is actually medic soooooo
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On February 13 2018 06:01 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2018 05:46 darthfoley wrote:
If there's a roleblocker, we don't get another check off so idk why y'all are on autopilot.
And a roleblocker is likely if prplhz is actually medic soooooo pst. I was hoping scum doesn't notice.
I'd prefer to just be open with stuff so we don't waste valuable periods of time
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On February 13 2018 22:22 Koshi wrote:
## unvote
##vote darthfoley
Anyway. I am going to vote df.
He fell off hard after d1 and when I read his filter a while back I had an aha! moment.
He played around rayns flip pretty good though. The only thing I can fault him is not going after rayn at all. But in this situation I guess rayn wouldnt lie anyway maybe. Like vt rayn claiming parity...
lmao this is trash. I don't go after an un CC'd parity cop on D3 when no blues have flipped? Lolzzzz. Will be on in 5
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On February 14 2018 03:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this
Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky
prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF
Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia
Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin
I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign His 2 biggest scumreads are the 2 mafia. The other 2 the players he argues the most with. I rarely nail mafia this hard so fast. But DF does it without even talking about them. He just nails them while arguing and defending against Mocsta and Trfel. Watch his filter. Nothing about mderg. NOTHING. (probably almost nothing but look at it) A little bit about rsoultin but he is not talking to her. He is not trying to convince the thread about these 2. He just nails the 2 flipped mafia. And then Mocsta and Tfrel above that. Who were in my opinion very easy townreads.
Sorry I had better reads than you this game. You're trying to fit everything I have done into a narrative that I'm scum. So ironic. Just accept that I have played better than you this game
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On February 14 2018 03:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:32 darthfoley wrote:
I think rsoultin has put in a lot of effort but I think it's kinda NAI. Last game she ran shit and let people know what they were doing based off of her.
This game she is letting her play be attached to other variables too much for my liking. (e.g. not being down to lynch me based off of ritoky's read on me. I think i've played with ritoky like once or twice.)
For my science nerds out there: last game rsoultin's play was the independent variable; this game it feels like the dependent variable. Called out on his list? What a scumread...
This was actually exactly what rsoultin was doing. It's just a good read. I really don't understand how you make this scummy somehow
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On February 14 2018 03:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 04:29 darthfoley wrote:
Current thoughts are something like this
Town
Conversion
Koshi
Rayn
Ritoky
prplhz
Damdred
Rels
HF
Trfel
Mocsta
rsoultin/mderg
Mafia
Fine with mderg/rsoultin lynch. I will note how thread sentiment has kind of awkwardly turned away from rsoultin while people are simultaneously covering their asses saying they don't mind if she dies. I will also note how Mocsta has followed pretty much the same formula from last game with his treatment of rsoultin
I don't like that I can't remember a single thing HF said. Not a good sign His 2 biggest scumreads are the 2 mafia. The other 2 the players he argues the most with.
I rarely nail mafia this hard so fast. But DF does it without even talking about them. He just nails them while arguing and defending against Mocsta and Trfel. Watch his filter. Nothing about mderg. NOTHING. (probably almost nothing but look at it) A little bit about rsoultin but he is not talking to her. He is not trying to convince the thread about these 2. He just nails the 2 flipped mafia. And then Mocsta and Tfrel above that. Who were in my opinion very easy townreads.
Make this your signature if/when I flip town please
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On February 14 2018 03:22 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 04:40 darthfoley wrote:
I like conversion, prplhz and rayn
I do not like rsoultin, Trfel and Mocsta.
To be clear, I am not claiming that they are all mafia together. But I think there's one, maybe two mafia in that. All others are somewhere in the null category Another big problem I have with DF is that he keeps scumreading Mocsta but I never read why. He never ever states why unless we are going with that joke reason. This is why: 1) ScumDF attacks Mocsta with shitty reasoning. 2) Mocsta attacks scum!DF for that. 3) ScumDF defends against Mocsta and keeps Mocsta as a scumread. No reasons except for the fact they argued. Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 04:49 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 17:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If df doesn't wanna talk about rsoultin that could even be okay but it seems like he doesn't wanna talk about anything at all. Yes it seems like he is scumreading rsoultin rn, but i don't really feel like he actually wants to lynch rsoultin (aka same way Mocsta and DF scumread each other last game). You're wrong about this btw. I have no problem talking about people, or reading cases that make sense and are succinct in their points. This includes rsoultin, who I think is probably scum. What I don't like or appreciate are long winded and bloviating cases in which someone makes circuitous arguments that could easily be summed up insofar as people miss or completely lose the point said individual is trying to make with their roundabout way of posting. I'm proud of that example btw ^. Mocsta uses 500 words to make a point that could be made in 50. It is my right to completely skip past his post if I should choose. But that is not the same as refusing to engage with the thread about the main "event" of the day. His posting reminds me of Shapelog in which his mafia strategy revolves around confusing or boring people to death by making long ass posts. It's how I felt he played last game, and I see similar methods in this game. Very good post by rayn and look why DF is scumreading Mocsta. It's just based on the fact "Mocsta types many words guys". There is nothing else behind it. Nothing smart. Nothing. Just "Mocsta bores people with words" Read rayn his post. It is also a good point.
I made it abundantly clear why I was wary of scum!Mocsta at the time. I felt like his posts were much ado about nothing. He used the strategy of talking so much you bore everyone last game and I felt like he was nitpicking random points that were inconsequential early D1 this game. I've said 100 times that scum!Mocsta reminds me of a less spammy scum!Shapelog.
Now I realize he does this as either alignment. I do this crazy thing where when I get new information, I change my opinion accordingly. You should try it
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Dude I never had to try and make the thread vote rsoultin. Everyone besides you and HF realized that it was the optimal play once rayn made his post. And guess what: we were right and you weren't! Get over it. I could've easily sheeped HF on Damdred if I were mafia and played it off.
You keep making a big deal about me "falling off" after D1. READ MY FUCKING FILTER
On February 09 2018 08:04 darthfoley wrote:
Also for the 40th time that "I believe" thing has been misunderstood and is in no way a slip.
My girlfriend is visiting this weekend so my activity is going to be much lower and I doubt I'll have a lot of timer to filter.
I hadn't seen my long distance girlfriend in about 2 months and she decided to fly down for the weekend to visit me. Sorry that some game of forum mafia doesn't take precedence over my significant other visiting me. This is an especially ironic accusation considering you're the king of "hanging with my gf, c u next cycle" plays.
You're lucky I played as much as I did. I'm done responding to your accusations. Starting to feel like you're just trying to set up the next ML
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On February 14 2018 03:49 Koshi wrote:
Lately DF has been calling me mafia. And calling HF mafia.
I am done.
Should be enough.
DF is mafia.
Yes, because solo scum!DF decides to hang his hat on Koshi/HF as his best ML bets to get to lylo. Superb reasoning.
I'll also bring up the elephant in the room that it's D3 and neither HF or Koshi have died. Someone had to say it, so I just did.
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I am shocked and chagrined that Koshi can't get over a 2015 newbie TL mafia player having better D1 reads than him this game.
I should know my place and be more wrong next time. Roger that captain!
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So basically we won't get another check or prplhz is mafia. I'm going to be very annoyed if prplhz pulled off a one day fake claim lol
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On February 14 2018 04:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2018 03:54 darthfoley wrote:On February 14 2018 03:49 Koshi wrote:
Lately DF has been calling me mafia. And calling HF mafia.
I am done.
Should be enough.
DF is mafia. Yes, because solo scum!DF decides to hang his hat on Koshi/HF as his best ML bets to get to lylo. Superb reasoning. I'll also bring up the elephant in the room that it's D3 and neither HF or Koshi have died. Someone had to say it, so I just did. Neither has rayn who lynched rsoultin over damdred? What's your point?
Well he's blue... sooooo that's my point
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On February 14 2018 04:14 Holyflare wrote:
Neither have you who lauded us with the fact you've been shot n1 every town game?
Not every town game, just the last 3-4. Yes, I am ascending to the upper echelons of NKs.
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