EPTthe best thing you are doing this cycle is remaining calm
dont get stirred, once posts are emotional, its hard to see the logic.
keep it up, im finding value in what you are saying.
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the best thing you are doing this cycle is remaining calm dont get stirred, once posts are emotional, its hard to see the logic. keep it up, im finding value in what you are saying. | ||
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On January 28 2018 13:12 Holyflare wrote: prplhz had that interaction where he refused to consider darthfoley with no reasoning IIRC.@Mocsta: I cba to read your filter but why did you lynch prplhz over Damerion on d2? Also, who do you think the last mafia is if it wasn't me? I still think the game is with Kmatt. I have noted your comments on Rels being a slimy scum player, so will need to read the recent yelling wars between you two in more detail - will be easier to push myself to critically read this when im bored at work. on weekends, kids come first On January 28 2018 13:16 Holyflare wrote: Also mocsta why did you go from not voting me today to voting me but also asking for more stuff from me? i voted you today as its a dead vote & no one is talking about kmatt - which I had hoped. I think you and i are the only ones that responded to his updated reads. | ||
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On January 28 2018 13:35 Holyflare wrote: I prefer to keep this as weak.I don't think Damerion responds to a partner like this with more evidence to clarify a read to justify his damdred wagon. It seems as though he is doing what he can to convince mderg in this situation. It's weak but its something to me. A - whether mderg = town/scum; it presents an opportunity for Damerion to step on the soap box and promote the Damdred wagon B - its normal play (in my mind) for scum to pick weak arguments in a partners case to: - allow them to correct it before others notice; or, - strengthen the argument etc I think the more interesting point here is that Damerion changes his language (in my mind) as a means of persuading mderg. I think this speaks more highly of a scum/town interaction then the event itself. | ||
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On January 29 2018 07:12 mderg wrote: Hi mderg[Mocsta =>Removed dead people from list] [b]Day1 Twat/jat: looked very investigative and open with his reasoning Mocsta: Not quite sure why I felt that way kmatt: no content btdt: didn't see anything of note Hf: looked uninvested, didn't like the push on damdred Rels: jumped on the damdred wagon and fucked off _______________________________________________________________________________________________ [b]Day2 Mocsta: Couldn't really see him and df together based on their interactions btdt: df's vote would have been pretty risky kmatt: no content Twat/jat: Looked townie at first, then disappeared after some townreads on him Rels: looked more invested after day1 Hf: Like before but with Kelsier nk wifom ________________________________________________________________________________________________ [b]Before cop claim btdt: same as before Mocsta: same as before Rels: looked more and more invested, also voted damerion jat: did not read any of his posts before the cop claim kmatt: almost no content Hf: not changed much, softing blue read and I absolutely hate this, "I'm confirmed town for whatever shitty wifom reason" ________________________________________________________________________________________________ [b]After cop claim btdt: almost confirmed town because of rb claims Mocsta: same as before Rels: same as before jat: made sure that Damerion gets lynched despite no counterclaim being made kmatt: lack of content, reads look a bit inconsistent Hf: pushing mafia agenda all game and all that shit I'm not that townie on Mocsta anymore, looked like he jumped on any case that was presented to himand I don't remember him presenting any strong reads of his own. - Does your kmatt read take into account the HF case on p77? - Im not sure of your point in bold. Firstly, I dont agree with not presenting reads. If its not clear, this cycle my choice of lynch was and is kmatt. I merely have recognised that people need closure on HF to move forward. Silly if you ask me. Secondly, HF is espousing that I joined wagons for my own "hipster" reasons; and you are saying I am jumping on -> implying a "+1". Perhaps relevant, perhaps not: however I can say with all certainty that I have struggled to understand the condensation of thought many players have expressed this game. The best example is HF, where I have fleshed out multiple posts in more specificity -> thinking this has resulted in a different (and more logical) outcome; with HF response being "thats what I said". Lastly, what is a strong read. You yourself do not define any scum reads for the first 3 days? - Lastly, again with the bold. Rels should be just as culpable for jumping onto cases (by sheeping RSoultin with blatant +1) IIRC this is why he jumped off Damdred wagon. This is why he voted Damerion. Further, the more and more invested is simply a yelling match to HF. Im not sure why he and I are treated differently, yet, kmatt who is "lack of content' gets a free pass. | ||
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Remember, HF posts were written rationally and mostly without emotion (bar Rels discussion). Lots of information to glean over. | ||
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On January 29 2018 09:39 mderg wrote: That is incorrect and also an unfair representation of this game. Being good town is about recognising a good case - whether generated by yourself or others. I did not say you weren't presenting any reads. I do not remember you having a scumread on anyone who didn't have a case on him already. If that's wrong, it's because I was too lazy to check your whole filter today when hf was always gonna be lynched. I'm also pretty sure I did present scumreads for the first 3 days. Lastly, it was your condensed list of reads in the original post that declared no scum reads throughout all day cycles. The impression I've got from Rels is different than the one from you. Partly because I'm biased as he had similar reads to me over the course of the game. Funnily enough I had Rels as scummy at the start of the game for similar reasons to you. Argument was not the intent. That was raised to extract further information.Also "but he did the same" is not always the most convinving argument. And where does kmatt get a free pass? He has a decent chance of flipping scum based purely on poe. [b]Can I say anything about his play besides providing very little information and reasoning of his reads? No. Part in bold is congruent with list post. Part in red was not - at least to me. | ||
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I struggle to consider a world where JAT, Rels, mderg are not town. That leaves Kmatt & BTDT as the last two. I am certain that a Kmatt lynch will close this game out. Theres nothing more to add here, since Kmatt has done nothing more since. The dark-horse if LYLO did arise is BTDT.
However, I refer to dark-horse as my world above is too strong; and without the RB, no one would think BTDT play is indicative of weak-town, let alone confirmed.
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Original (with flips) + Show Spoiler + On January 20 2018 06:56 darthfoley wrote: I'll be heading out on the road soon so I will only be phone posting from here until deadline. Idk if i'll be able to respond or keep up much i'm going to be but my reads are something like this Town Twat Kmatt HF Rels Mderg rsoultin prphlz Damerion Damdred Kelscier Mocsta BTDT Mafia With my world On January 20 2018 06:56 darthfoley wrote: P.S. DF had no idea he was getting shot night1 when this was released.Town Twat (JAT) Kmatt HF Rels Mderg rsoultin prphlz Damerion Damdred Kelscier Mocsta BTDT Mafia | ||
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On January 29 2018 17:32 justanothertownie wrote: Unfortunately, i dont have any time tonight to go into further detail.I would really love to hear those reasons to townread mderg and Rels that are stronger than the rb thing. TLDR is that I went back to Day1 as this was the most natural day. All the other ones had events that are difficult to discern motive: e.g. prplhz lynch; cop-claim; predetermined lynch. Day1 has some really quirky/interesting interactions between DF/Damerion and remaining player group. mderg has been lone wolf all game; and I dont see how this play carries a team to victory. it relies on lots of luck. I stand by hipster townie. Rels I will try to flesh out more in the morning if i get time. One caveat is that I have yet to read former games whether either player has been mafia. mderg did say he can be top-tier scum so i am curious if knowledge of townies changes his playstyle dramatically instead of being a "wanderer" in this game. I agree BTDT is a non-issue unless LYLO presents; and I dont think its of benefit to discuss him further. I more raised that as item of note if it gets that far. | ||
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On January 30 2018 04:28 justanothertownie wrote: Truest statement of the game.This really late replacement in general is really screwing over someones game. Either the mafia game of some poor fella just got a lot harder or a secure mafia loss was just stopped by host intervention if it is your slot. | ||
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hes my top read, he has to try and shit on me no matter whether town or scum. hes calling me scum... and for what. because holyflare mentioned me.. does he forget about damdred and prplhz? this is just stupid | ||
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On January 30 2018 05:24 justanothertownie wrote: Adorable  Yes confirmed town indeed it is | ||
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wheres the vote follow-through. dont lie to yourself and say.. hey i caught mafia with my finger of suspicion.. when you voted townies. | ||
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be back after night post. | ||
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he replaced in.. what.. a couple hours before the game started? he doesnt have time to critically read 80 pages.. but does have time for the qt. its obvious now, scum thought BTDT was medic... I've even put JAT being blue and he still went with the QT dump ##Vote: Koshi | ||
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