EPTI shall indulge you though as i agree that kmatt cant go thrkugh this cycle withoiut updating reads
##vote: kmatt
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Mocsta
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I shall indulge you though as i agree that kmatt cant go thrkugh this cycle withoiut updating reads ##vote: kmatt | ||
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justanothertownie
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On January 27 2018 10:11 Holyflare wrote: In fact I'd much rather we skip 48 hours of this game so we can get to next cycle without me being in the way. The amount of bull shit rels spouts is just far too much for me to care anymore. Just make sure you question the shit out of kmatt because he's not 100% scum even if it's very likely. Mocsta is still on the table. I understand this stance very well if you are town. But that's what happens if a player of your caliber aligns this hard with mafia (and don't start telling me you wouldn't as scum - we both know it is not true). I can't let you survive like this. But fortunately even if we mislynch you we are still in a very good spot. So if you are really town and can't be bothered to fight this lynch then all I am asking of you is to give us your best case on how to proceed. And "lynch kmatt" is not enough. The likelihood of kmatt surviving 2 additional lynches is so small that he might aswell concede. So we are talking about the nore complicated worlds here where it is neither of you. In that case barring any further saves we are likely going to see a final 3 consisting of mocsta, mderg and one of btdt and rels. Your input on these people would be greatly appreciated. | ||
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justanothertownie
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Holyflare
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Either way, I think you should be looking into kmatt/mocsta and eventually rels if it gets to that. I think what rels posted about mdergs vote on damerion on the day prplhz got lynched is quite a redeeming factor for him. I think Mocsta is pretty much just commenting on random things in the game and existing. I don't know how to explain it other than that. If I try and look back and remember anything Mocsta has said the entirety of the game then I draw a huge blank because nothing has stood out, nothing is memorable. All I see are random soliloquies, they fall on deaf ears and he doesn't seem to care. There's no passion or anything behind his words. He also tried to be hipster on all the lynches we've had so far. On Damdred it wasn't that he got caught out in some weird meta thing it was that he was appealing to people's emotions and definitely not to do with the other thing. Even scum read me straight after damdred despite having the same scum read. Felt very unnatural. Kmatt has pretty much had no scum reads, has commented on random things. Said his town read was scummy for afking (despite afking multiple times this game), has a scum read on btdt for ...? and has a scum read on Mocsta for being hollow but then town reads Mocsta for the cop check and scum reads btdt even though they are the same check. It's just arbitrary assigning of things. Now that the cop has flipped those two people should come back on his radar but we haven't heard a single thing in terms of reads from him. I asked him one simple question about it and he returned and ignored it. Now that rels has started pushing me I've magically jumped into the limelight despite not once in this entire game has he called me mafia. Then there's that giant post he wrote which has backwards logic about how if I was town I have already won the game by lynching him but if he's town that doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. If he's town and I'm town then me backing off and giving him a chance to explain his things should be perfect for him because then there's a chance the game isn't lost if he gets lynched. I still don't understand it. Will he ever explain it? Doubt it. If all else fails just lynch rels. Everything I post he just writes a mafia narrative for it. I've asked him to back off and reconsider a different world because he WILL be wrong but he just repeats the same narrative again. He fails to explore alternatives and I guarantee after I get lynched it will be "oh, he played so bad it's his fault" rather than his fault for not even engaging in different scenarios. Everyone already knows his case on me so why can't he just let it rest and theorise about other scenarios where he could be wrong? It all seems very forced to me. Way too over the top. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On January 27 2018 22:41 Holyflare wrote: I genuinely think I wouldn't push mafia agenda this hard as mafia lol. Either way, I think you should be looking into kmatt/mocsta and eventually rels if it gets to that. I think what rels posted about mdergs vote on damerion on the day prplhz got lynched is quite a redeeming factor for him. I think Mocsta is pretty much just commenting on random things in the game and existing. I don't know how to explain it other than that. If I try and look back and remember anything Mocsta has said the entirety of the game then I draw a huge blank because nothing has stood out, nothing is memorable. All I see are random soliloquies, they fall on deaf ears and he doesn't seem to care. There's no passion or anything behind his words. He also tried to be hipster on all the lynches we've had so far. On Damdred it wasn't that he got caught out in some weird meta thing it was that he was appealing to people's emotions and definitely not to do with the other thing. Even scum read me straight after damdred despite having the same scum read. Felt very unnatural. Kmatt has pretty much had no scum reads, has commented on random things. Said his town read was scummy for afking (despite afking multiple times this game), has a scum read on btdt for ...? and has a scum read on Mocsta for being hollow but then town reads Mocsta for the cop check and scum reads btdt even though they are the same check. It's just arbitrary assigning of things. Now that the cop has flipped those two people should come back on his radar but we haven't heard a single thing in terms of reads from him. I asked him one simple question about it and he returned and ignored it. Now that rels has started pushing me I've magically jumped into the limelight despite not once in this entire game has he called me mafia. Then there's that giant post he wrote which has backwards logic about how if I was town I have already won the game by lynching him but if he's town that doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. If he's town and I'm town then me backing off and giving him a chance to explain his things should be perfect for him because then there's a chance the game isn't lost if he gets lynched. I still don't understand it. Will he ever explain it? Doubt it. If all else fails just lynch rels. Everything I post he just writes a mafia narrative for it. I've asked him to back off and reconsider a different world because he WILL be wrong but he just repeats the same narrative again. He fails to explore alternatives and I guarantee after I get lynched it will be "oh, he played so bad it's his fault" rather than his fault for not even engaging in different scenarios. Everyone already knows his case on me so why can't he just let it rest and theorise about other scenarios where he could be wrong? It all seems very forced to me. Way too over the top. See, this is how we make progress. I won't be sleeping on rels. I know that he is capable of playing like this as mafia. The thing is as long as you live he can easily hide behind his push onto you. I will give him a chance to prove himself or die in the night before I am gonna try to lynch him. But I am pretty sure I will be dead before it comes to this. | ||
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Holyflare
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Mderg I dunno, pretty hesitant because reading back on him he's not actually said that much at all and seems to be overplaying his df read but his vote on damerion over pprlhz is pretty good for him. I also felt he was a bit towny on d1. It's weak but it's more than I have for the others. | ||
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Holyflare
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On January 27 2018 23:02 justanothertownie wrote: You are in a uniquely fortunate position to solve this game and you have the filters of 2 dead mafia to analyze too. Any further analysis is appreciated. Btdt is 100 % town to you I understand? I mean so are you? Just look at me being town, even if you want to vote me, and do the same. Not rocket science tbh. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On January 27 2018 23:08 Holyflare wrote: I mean so are you? Just look at me being town, even if you want to vote me, and do the same. Not rocket science tbh. Fair. But I am very lazy. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On January 27 2018 23:09 Holyflare wrote: I think Mocsta's reaction to the btdt rb situation looked really bad like he wanted to keep all his options open on who to lynch somehow. Maybe. He's voting to save me so he can't be all that bad. I also had this thought when that happened. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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Holyflare
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beentheredonethat
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In case of vet, claim now. Same goes for doc. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On January 27 2018 23:24 Holyflare wrote: Which is irrelevant until we know what happened or you're finally ready to admit you're the doctor and I'm town It was my birthday on monday, my gf nirthday on tuesday. Thus I did not play. There are no intentional crumbs in my posts and I have no idea why I got roleblocked twice. | ||
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Holyflare
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justanothertownie
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On January 27 2018 23:26 beentheredonethat wrote: That means doc saved (2 confirmed) or vet got shot (1 confirmed) In case of vet, claim now. Same goes for doc. Claiming is only helpful if it confirms a question mark. Doc shouldn't claim unless it is HF or kmatt basically. | ||
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