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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 27 2018 00:24 GMT
#1341
On January 27 2018 09:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
On January 27 2018 09:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 09:11 Holyflare wrote:
I saw you claim blue. If I was mafia I would without a doubt kill you because you're confirmed town AND blue and the rber is dead.

Pretty sure this does not mean anything. Especially since you know that btdt is a very bad nightkill otherwise and I doubt you were 100 % sure about this. And who knows - maybe btdt was the target? Ever thought about that?


He's the doctor. So no.

Can you do a selfie once this game is over just so I can see how you look when you realize you're wrong?


I wouldn't be shocked if I was wrong but it made sense to me and it looked like it was true so that's more than enough for me to base my own play off of. I can't control what mafia do.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 27 2018 00:24 GMT
#1342
On January 27 2018 09:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 09:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
On January 27 2018 09:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 09:11 Holyflare wrote:
I saw you claim blue. If I was mafia I would without a doubt kill you because you're confirmed town AND blue and the rber is dead.

Pretty sure this does not mean anything. Especially since you know that btdt is a very bad nightkill otherwise and I doubt you were 100 % sure about this. And who knows - maybe btdt was the target? Ever thought about that?


He's the doctor. So no.

Ok, first:
Why are you so certain about that?
second:
Why on earth would you say this as town?

I am sorry if I am destroying a legitimate town strategy here but we have enough mislynches.


Show nested quote +
On January 24 2018 18:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
(Sidenote - Vig is an investigative role. Having another Cop means two investigative roles. My assumption is that we don't have a GF but Vig/Doc vs. Goon/Goon/RB)



Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
So that only works if he thinks I'm the godfather but for some reason, he didn't have this thought before. Why did he not have this thought before? Because it's vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb, he's a goon and he's not aware that town isn't aware of the scum roles.



Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Damerion says: "I have a green check on BTDT". Kmatt says: "I believe the claim! I'm lynching BTDT."

That's not the worst point. But not conclusive either since the green checks basically meant nothing due to the almost guaranteed presence of a godfather.

There shouldn't be a godfather in. Vig/Cop are both investigative. I'm locked on vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb.


He's said it about three times out of the blue and seemed sure. I want to win the game by hopefully not dying and convincing people because that's more fun for me than just yelling and dying and then you lynching kmatt afterwards and I don't care if I out the blue anyway. I'd much rather have some fun and just reveal my alignment by actually doing dumb things that a mafia hf wouldn't ever do. Like not killing the doc with no rb left.

Ok, you do you. But I am not convinced.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 27 2018 00:26 GMT
#1343
I suppose you were convinced BTDT was doc, and you took a gamble between JAT and I, to try and say this exact excuse and try to survive. Sorry that didn't work out.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 27 2018 00:26 GMT
#1344
So today the plan of action is really quite simple. Kmatt turns up and actually has to post some reads and give explanations for his reads throughout the game. He promised them by the end of last night and much like his partner didn't provide them. You must hold him accountable because his only out is to wagon on me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 27 2018 00:26 GMT
#1345
On January 27 2018 09:26 Rels wrote:
I suppose you were convinced BTDT was doc, and you took a gamble between JAT and I, to try and say this exact excuse and try to survive. Sorry that didn't work out.


You're really quite boring.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 27 2018 00:27 GMT
#1346
On January 27 2018 09:26 Holyflare wrote:
So today the plan of action is really quite simple. Kmatt turns up and actually has to post some reads and give explanations for his reads throughout the game. He promised them by the end of last night and much like his partner didn't provide them. You must hold him accountable because his only out is to wagon on me.

Sure, he will be under scrutiny too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 27 2018 00:27 GMT
#1347
On January 27 2018 09:26 Holyflare wrote:
So today the plan of action is really quite simple. Kmatt turns up and actually has to post some reads and give explanations for his reads throughout the game. He promised them by the end of last night and much like his partner didn't provide them. You must hold him accountable because his only out is to wagon on me.


Just remember this please. Not one of you has even talked to kmatt once. That's just really bad play.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 27 2018 00:28 GMT
#1348
On January 27 2018 09:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 09:22 Holyflare wrote:
On January 27 2018 09:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
On January 27 2018 09:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 09:11 Holyflare wrote:
I saw you claim blue. If I was mafia I would without a doubt kill you because you're confirmed town AND blue and the rber is dead.

Pretty sure this does not mean anything. Especially since you know that btdt is a very bad nightkill otherwise and I doubt you were 100 % sure about this. And who knows - maybe btdt was the target? Ever thought about that?


He's the doctor. So no.

Ok, first:
Why are you so certain about that?
second:
Why on earth would you say this as town?

I am sorry if I am destroying a legitimate town strategy here but we have enough mislynches.


On January 24 2018 18:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
(Sidenote - Vig is an investigative role. Having another Cop means two investigative roles. My assumption is that we don't have a GF but Vig/Doc vs. Goon/Goon/RB)



On January 27 2018 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
So that only works if he thinks I'm the godfather but for some reason, he didn't have this thought before. Why did he not have this thought before? Because it's vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb, he's a goon and he's not aware that town isn't aware of the scum roles.



On January 27 2018 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Damerion says: "I have a green check on BTDT". Kmatt says: "I believe the claim! I'm lynching BTDT."

That's not the worst point. But not conclusive either since the green checks basically meant nothing due to the almost guaranteed presence of a godfather.

There shouldn't be a godfather in. Vig/Cop are both investigative. I'm locked on vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb.


He's said it about three times out of the blue and seemed sure. I want to win the game by hopefully not dying and convincing people because that's more fun for me than just yelling and dying and then you lynching kmatt afterwards and I don't care if I out the blue anyway. I'd much rather have some fun and just reveal my alignment by actually doing dumb things that a mafia hf wouldn't ever do. Like not killing the doc with no rb left.

Ok, you do you. But I am not convinced.

I think him being convinced that BTDT was doc is true. That would also explain why BTDT was roleblocked N1 / N2. I think he thought BTDT was doc since N1, and the posts above made him 100% sure, and that's why he took the gamble.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 27 2018 00:28 GMT
#1349
On January 27 2018 09:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2018 09:22 Holyflare wrote:
On January 27 2018 09:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
On January 27 2018 09:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 09:11 Holyflare wrote:
I saw you claim blue. If I was mafia I would without a doubt kill you because you're confirmed town AND blue and the rber is dead.

Pretty sure this does not mean anything. Especially since you know that btdt is a very bad nightkill otherwise and I doubt you were 100 % sure about this. And who knows - maybe btdt was the target? Ever thought about that?


He's the doctor. So no.

Ok, first:
Why are you so certain about that?
second:
Why on earth would you say this as town?

I am sorry if I am destroying a legitimate town strategy here but we have enough mislynches.


On January 24 2018 18:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
(Sidenote - Vig is an investigative role. Having another Cop means two investigative roles. My assumption is that we don't have a GF but Vig/Doc vs. Goon/Goon/RB)



On January 27 2018 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
So that only works if he thinks I'm the godfather but for some reason, he didn't have this thought before. Why did he not have this thought before? Because it's vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb, he's a goon and he's not aware that town isn't aware of the scum roles.



On January 27 2018 01:32 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 01:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Damerion says: "I have a green check on BTDT". Kmatt says: "I believe the claim! I'm lynching BTDT."

That's not the worst point. But not conclusive either since the green checks basically meant nothing due to the almost guaranteed presence of a godfather.

There shouldn't be a godfather in. Vig/Cop are both investigative. I'm locked on vig/doc vs. goon/goon/rb.


He's said it about three times out of the blue and seemed sure. I want to win the game by hopefully not dying and convincing people because that's more fun for me than just yelling and dying and then you lynching kmatt afterwards and I don't care if I out the blue anyway. I'd much rather have some fun and just reveal my alignment by actually doing dumb things that a mafia hf wouldn't ever do. Like not killing the doc with no rb left.

Ok, you do you. But I am not convinced.

I was so sure that this would be the case because I hosted several games and when I was discussing setups, I was told by various people that it's normal to have one investigative and one protective role in a 13p setup. And if you follow my filter closely, I wasn't 100% sure initially.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 27 2018 00:29 GMT
#1350
Kmatt has two pages of filter. That should suffice for an auto lynch tho.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 27 2018 00:30 GMT
#1351
Rels, in a world where Holyflare is town, who ya gonna call?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 27 2018 00:30 GMT
#1352
On January 27 2018 09:26 Holyflare wrote:
So today the plan of action is really quite simple. Kmatt turns up and actually has to post some reads and give explanations for his reads throughout the game. He promised them by the end of last night and much like his partner didn't provide them. You must hold him accountable because his only out is to wagon on me.

well yeah, if you're not scum he's very likely to be. But his only out is not the wagon on you, since we have 3 lynches.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 27 2018 00:31 GMT
#1353
On January 27 2018 09:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Rels, in a world where Holyflare is town, who ya gonna call?

Kmatt.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 27 2018 00:37 GMT
#1354
I'm pretty sure he's scum though. The more the game advances the more I see the strategy. That play makes so much sense with HF as scum that has been bluereading BTDT since the beginning. Last night he planned this gamble to try to survive two lynches.
That just fits. It's awesome. Kmatt being scum doesn't fit. This fits perfectly. Old HF couldn't be assed to tryhard his way to victory, and instead prepared the Damerion fakeclaim plan, then the "dont shoot the doc even though I know the doc" plan.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 27 2018 00:37 GMT
#1355
Mafia is such a great game I love when things just fall together like that
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 27 2018 00:40 GMT
#1356
I should have been asleep for a long time, so I'll leave now. See you tomorrow
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
January 27 2018 00:49 GMT
#1357
actually me being roleblocked twice and hf interpreting this as a blue claim makes perfect sense if he's scum
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 27 2018 01:05 GMT
#1358
That is what we call in this business a narrative. It's very bad and you shouldn't do that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 27 2018 01:06 GMT
#1359
On January 27 2018 09:37 Rels wrote:
I'm pretty sure he's scum though. The more the game advances the more I see the strategy. That play makes so much sense with HF as scum that has been bluereading BTDT since the beginning. Last night he planned this gamble to try to survive two lynches.
That just fits. It's awesome. Kmatt being scum doesn't fit. This fits perfectly. Old HF couldn't be assed to tryhard his way to victory, and instead prepared the Damerion fakeclaim plan, then the "dont shoot the doc even though I know the doc" plan.


If you can point to any game where I have been mafia and have ever made a plan in advance other than just yolo do whatever then I will concede.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 27 2018 01:11 GMT
#1360
In fact I'd much rather we skip 48 hours of this game so we can get to next cycle without me being in the way. The amount of bull shit rels spouts is just far too much for me to care anymore.

Just make sure you question the shit out of kmatt because he's not 100% scum even if it's very likely. Mocsta is still on the table.
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