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On January 20 2018 06:13 darthfoley wrote: I think you guys are misunderstanding my point on Mocsta. I don't believe that "because Mocsta is unsure of things on D1 he must be scum." Obviously by definition town are not going to know things and be unsure of stuff. My point is that when you read Mocsta's filter, it's very focused on what other people think of the game. He loves to ask questions and then overanalyze their responses. His "reads" to me don't seem like someone unsure of themselves and trying to follow up with said people to figure it out. He voted Damdred at an opportune time, and hasn't really done much since. He mentions me/HF/you as sort of in the realm of possibility, sort of maybe sus but doesn't really commit to it. That isn't the biggest issue: the biggest issue is that he doesn't seem to be interested in finding answers to any of the questions and queries he posts. Not what you said at all earlier but the first thing that rings possibly true to me. Did you perhaps consider time differences when coming to this conclusion, or...? | ||
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On January 20 2018 06:14 Holyflare wrote: Damerion has pushed a lynch on scum 100% of the time in every gamr I've played with him. He generally lives 3 ish days and all 3 days he pushes scum. He has correctly got scum about 12/12 times. Not in the november game. Games, please. | ||
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Hmmm... See for me, I think...look at him fine with the btdt damdred lynch. Look at him bitching once we switch to df. If df flips scum that's very interesting. Your story could be real and you're fucked by coincidence if df flips scum, or it could be a lie. And I have no way of knowing if it's real or not. I can say that my desire to lynch btdt has diminished. | ||
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I really hope you're not town this game. You're annoyingly unhelpful. I can see the btdt/damdred explanation so I guess that's fair. @damerion I'm clearly asking for specifics but I'm just as clearly not going to get them. Pft. -grumbles and trundles off to the damdred filter- | ||
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On January 20 2018 06:21 Holyflare wrote: What world are we living in where I am getting called a liar for an easily provable truth lol? What shit play is that. What exactly is easily provable about when you claim to be working? | ||
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Doesn't matter anyway does it? Whether your change in behavior had to do with you not being home yet or not, when you clearly can read and post just the same...I mean honestly why [i]should]/i] I believe that? lol | ||
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On January 20 2018 06:19 Damerion wrote: Ive pulled it from reading past games, talking mafia with Damdred. I do not know what else to say other than that? I do not feel like his early game was free flowing however, in fact his gameplay has been hyper static this whole game. Examples of what you think makes his game hyper static, please. I can give you a hint and say that even a cursory glance through his filter doesn't bear that claim out for me, but maybe you have a good reason for thinking differently. We'll see. | ||
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On January 20 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote: Hey your accusation is changing. Better get that in check. I had a bit of free time at work previously to skim and see a btdt post where he fucked off said lol mafia and went about working again. Now I'm home with more free time and am posting more. What you're seemingly saying is that I'm doing mafia things deflecting off df when he's going up for lynch even though I'm saying I don't care if he dies. Even though I've stuck to my same scum reads and have pushed the same things. Maybe I should be less active instead then? No, I mean you claiming that your difference in behavior to two different counterwagons is related to work is unverifiable. Could you perhaps have only time to read one post and that explains your reaction? Sure. Could it be you are scum and we're now pushing scum so suddenly it's more important to push the counterwagon, i.e. damdred? Sure. There is no way for me to know which of the two it is. It looks suspicious if darth foley flips scum because of that. No more, no less. Feel free to be as active as you like. I'm done with you for now. | ||
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On January 20 2018 06:36 Holyflare wrote: I think it's fairly fucking obvious going from 1 post every 8 1/2 hours to a spree of posts in minutes after the general times of working hours is a normal thing for normal people to do. Unless you're saying my mafia play is gross inactivity. I don't even know what the vote count is or who is even voting who tbh. Haven't looked at the vote thread since I voted. I'm not saying you weren't at work. I'm saying your motivations are unverifiable. I can't know if you've looked at the vote thread or not. | ||
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On January 20 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote: Did Damerion ever say what he thinks of BTDT? Doesn't seem so, looking through his filter. I don't recall him having much of an opinion on anything but damdred. | ||
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On January 20 2018 06:38 Holyflare wrote: You're saying that if df flips mafia then my motivation is a mafia motivation because fuck really blatant observable facts. You are the one going down this shit route. I'm just calling out bs when I see it. Regardless, I forgot twat and kmatt. Twat goes top and kmatt goes to df tier. No, I'm saying that your motivation could be mafia motivation and that the explanation you gave me is unverifiable. I also clearly said that it could not be. Try calling out bs that actually exists. I already said that your reasoning was fair. It just gets me no closer to sussing you out, which is irritating. | ||
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On January 20 2018 06:40 Holyflare wrote: You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta. Why are people voting df? For me it's a static mocsta scumread. His reasoning, that mocsta is focusing on minutiae (first explanation) and/or making vague reads (second explanation) and/or whatever the third explanation was that I should look back up or won't both struck me as inaccurate and being adapted to match the static read. Could be wrong but not going to vote Damdred over him for 1) erroneously applied meta for how Damdred plays day 1 or 2) he admitted to using the word 'like' -_- | ||
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On January 20 2018 06:42 Holyflare wrote: Would you like me to get the emails from work of exactly what I was doing at the time of btdt posts? It's very very easy to prove actually. No, I wouldn't. I've come to it means nothing anyway so it doesn't matter. I don't know why you're so focused on my saying I can't prove what you're thinking lol >< It should be obvious that's true regardless of what was going on at work or whether or not you were at work. | ||
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On January 20 2018 06:41 Holyflare wrote: This is Damerion in every single game. Pick a mafia, get ignored and very much afk with a focus on one person. Every single game. Person is mafia every time. I find this Damerion the town god image you paint EXTREMELY unbelievable. It's actually tempting to go back through his games. No one in my experience has ever been anywhere close to 100% right while tunneling one person every game they play. That's a ridiculous thing to even claim, hf. | ||
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On January 20 2018 06:45 Holyflare wrote: All of those explanations of mocsta are correct though? Your post with green or red was a really fucking scummy post with multiple outs. Mocsta defended me from you multiple times and his read on me in that post barely even thought I was anything. We don't see things the same. Half of what he said about you when I talked to him was me asking to clarify how you were actually being constructive  Which is not defense, but explanation.But my issue is not whether or not mocsta should be scumread anyway, but how df has been doing it. I think that's pretty clear. | ||
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On January 20 2018 06:50 darthfoley wrote: Like idk why rsoultin has such a hard time seeing the forest through the trees or whatever the saying is. My read on Mocsta is static because he hasn't done shit to change it. Why is that so hard to understand? And all the other people who are on me have conveniently fucked off. Eh I could be wrong, in which case I apologize for being a boob, but I feel I'm much less likely to be wrong on Damdred. So it is what it is. | ||
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I don't know where you're getting the 'he always tunnels one person to the exclusion of everything else' idea from. Certainly not his November game. | ||
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