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On January 28 2018 09:45 Holyflare wrote:
Notice how I've not once tried to shift the lynch elsewhere, not once tried to paint anyone in an ultimately scummy light to direct the lynch to them. The only thing I'm doing is asking questions and trying to point things out. If that's a scummy objective to leave a legacy then so be it. Just realise that you're shitting up the wrong tree.
That's not an actual argument though. There's only one scummer left so scum's first goal right there is survival, not active mislynches. As town, you're not supposed to "paint someone scummy". You're supposed to genuinely read a person and try to find out the alignment. You say "I'm pro-town because I am not painting someone else as scummy just to survive". Yeah, okay, granted, but you're also not giving out genuine reads then. If you'll be confirmed by death, why not try to actually convince people into lynching your strongest scumread after you're dead?
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Like, you basically say "Hey, I have not tried to mislynch someone, instead I'm just talking to people, so don't lynch me." I'm not a big fan of circlejerking around your lynch because if you flip town, it'll really suck. But then again - rsoultin and Kelsier had you as scum early on and both are dead. + Show Spoiler [here] +On January 19 2018 07:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 07:12 KelsierSC wrote:
I will try to organise my thoughts in a concise why.
Main issue is the damdred discussion. The impression I get is that damerion has a meta read that he is very proud of but in those situations you have to be careful not to get too excited and see the read everywhere. I think this may be the case, especially with how early he came out with it. I believe damerion mentioned damdred going on df with "ferocity". That's where he lost if for me. I didn't see damdred being ferocious at all. In fact I didn't feel he was really pushing a scum read that hard.
I don't know where I have damdred, he has done things I like and things I don't like. For damerion...Is he misguided overeager town or scum...probably over eager town.
I think Twaty and rsoultin are both town. I've agreed with most everything that Tina has said and I knew she would like costa. They both post in similair style. Costa's enthusiasm is enough for a tone read pass D1.
my scummy reads come from people who agree on the damdred wagon when they should probably know better. I think hf questioning damdred on his df and costa both being scum was bad. To me that was a guy giving two people who in his opinion have made questionable posts. Not considering partners at that stage. Rels is similar as a guy who has popped up with some one liners and then latched onto this damdred read.
I don't like Mderg I think his disappointment at the thread felt fake and his 10 page hf point was not my experience of hf at all. In general I have disagreed with almost everything he said apart from his agreement that damerion is just too aggro. So I could see Mderg knowing both damdred and damerion are town and trying to get some credit later...maybe im just biased with that .
Right now i'd lynch HF, rels, Mderg and prplhz because his 2 day afk is just bullshit.
I like kmatt but just because his 4d chess comment was really funny.
Sorry this turned into a ramble. God I spoke too soon. ♡! I just want to townread you forever for the awful reason of being in my headspace, even on things I haven't commented on. Or not so awful reason. Do I finally get a game with an active town ksc again?
You also were on the Damdred wagon D1 with Damerion early on, which makes it perfectly possible that you guys decided to roleblock me. You could've hammered me. Hm, I think that's actually a super weak argument.
D3:
prplhz (4): Mocsta, beentheredonethat, Kmatt, Holyflare
Damerion (3): Rels, rsoultin, mderg
So you're voting prplhz instead of Damerion claiming prphlz is the "scum vig" and it's 100% sure and so on
On January 23 2018 06:47 Holyflare wrote:
I'll lynch Damerion tomorrow after we get rid of the mafia vig today ok?
On January 23 2018 06:29 Holyflare wrote:
His complete lack of seeming availability? I'm not saying he's not mafia I'm just saying prplhz is definitely mafia whereas Damerion has a sliver of hope. So I'd rather get the definitive mafia out of the way.
Aaaand Tina lol
On January 23 2018 19:02 rsoultin wrote:Lol >< the only thing I have going for you is a weak tonal read based on...nothing much more than gut. Assuming I'm right on Damerion, I don't even know where to begin on a third scum. The game is so dead. My head says you. I really need town to start posting and solving :/ I think we have one more free mislynch before being wrong becomes a scum win?
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but my true reason why I'm ok with an HF lynch is actually dumb
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I can see HF being scum. I can also see KMatt being scum. And Mocsta. And JAT.
And out of these four, I think HF is the most capable scum player so I want him to be dead first.
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On January 23 2018 20:44 rsoultin wrote:
The facts don't make holyflare look town @.@
But then this happens
And Tina dies
And HF jumps on Damerion
But scum!HF would never ever roleblock afk!btdt twice in a fucking row
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Kmatt has two pages of filter and he's obsessed with me. And I got roleblocked twice.
Kmatt was also hesistant to lynch Damerion. He expressed it but let the lynch pass. That's what indecisive scum would do.
On January 26 2018 09:13 Kmatt wrote:
Could you link me the game where town ignores cop's check? That takes a special kind of stupid.
I'm not above voting him though, he's been on my list anyway. In fact I don't think he's ever not someone I want to lynch.
Let me rephrase that: "It takes a special kind of stupid to ignore a cop check". Which is harsh. But he's totes down to lynching the guy because "he's on the list anyways"? What is this post even?
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On January 28 2018 10:26 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2018 10:14 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 28 2018 09:45 Holyflare wrote:
Notice how I've not once tried to shift the lynch elsewhere, not once tried to paint anyone in an ultimately scummy light to direct the lynch to them. The only thing I'm doing is asking questions and trying to point things out. If that's a scummy objective to leave a legacy then so be it. Just realise that you're shitting up the wrong tree. That's not an actual argument though. There's only one scummer left so scum's first goal right there is survival, not active mislynches. As town, you're not supposed to "paint someone scummy". You're supposed to genuinely read a person and try to find out the alignment. You say "I'm pro-town because I am not painting someone else as scummy just to survive". Yeah, okay, granted, but you're also not giving out genuine reads then. If you'll be confirmed by death, why not try to actually convince people into lynching your strongest scumread after you're dead? But survival is through active mislynches, no?the issue i have with looking too far beyond that is it fosters a sense of distrust where it may not be necessarily; and in some ways is even detrimental. Our goal is still the same though, end this ASAP. This cycle appears unlikely, so next. Now, I do think HF is being the most sincere he has been all game. The tone of everything is quite different at his "deathbed" for lack of a better word. Its a case of, once I flip, read through knowing you can trust this rational point of view that. Therefore, the main thing i want to know at this point is who town!holyflare thinks should be primarily finger of suspicion tomorrow.
I guess it's semantics, but not necessarily active mislynches. You can also kinda sit back and let the game happen, watch town eat itself, which is happening just now in case HF is town  .
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I guess lynching HF/Kmatt and hoping the best in terms of the missing claimgame is all we have to do for now?
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On January 28 2018 18:57 justanothertownie wrote:
@btdt
I never said I do not like you as a person. I just hate the things I mentioned about your play. But fine, in the interest of keeping this newbie game civil I will refrain from provocing you any further. If you really want to better yourself you should stop spitevoting me in return. Unless you actually think I am the scummiest player in the game which would be a ridiculously bad read.
Okay, let's drop it.
##unvote
##vote Holyflare
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KMatt was a scum slot. We did not have a kill because he was afk and did not submit one. The slot was replaced that late because the game would've ended if a modkill happened.
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It also was HF's top scum read if that's not enough for you.
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On January 30 2018 04:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Pretty sure mafia can't even hold their shot. So it would probably have been randomized.
So it was randomized on someone who then got healed or is the vet?
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On January 30 2018 04:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2018 04:55 beentheredonethat wrote:On January 30 2018 04:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Pretty sure mafia can't even hold their shot. So it would probably have been randomized. So it was randomized on someone who then got healed or is the vet? Sure. But then your point is defeated since you cannot say if they sent in a shot or not.
The OP has it pretty clearly: mafia cannot hold their shot. So we got vet OR doc and I expect them to claim at like :59 so if they die, they confirm shit.
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well, I call dedgaem. Gonna lynch into the Kmatt/Koshi slot and afk.
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Q: What happens if mafia does not submit a shot?
A: It would be randomly chosen among the remaining non-mafia players.
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Still lynching the Kmatt slot.
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Jat had an amazing game  . Well played. GG everyone, thanks for the fun!
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EPT
