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On January 24 2018 23:01 Rels wrote: Dont worry, my vote is staying where it isSo, when you add the fact that it's basically the best moment to claim if you're scum, given that you're the prime lynch candidate, it's difficult to believe you. However, this batch of discussion (including JAT) is tunneled. Town or Mafia would feel pressured after Night2. I could see a blue hardclaiming in that circumstance. This is essentially a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't scenario. It doesnt matter though, the setup makes the claim extremely unlikely. However, I was having trouble sleeping last night thinking of all the different perutations with this setup. One oddity I couldnt get past regarding the the BTDT roleblock claim, is that the vet can be roleblocked for 1-shot NK. Wouldnt ideal strategy be then to RB+NK? Otherwise, vet can not only claim they are reason there was no NK, but can also claim the RB which makes them confirmed town. I still cant fathom at all how a townie could vote to avoid modkill, but avoid sharing the roleblock knowledge. The timing of everything is just frustrating. | ||
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On January 25 2018 01:29 Holyflare wrote: NAIWhat was the correct reaction? You have to see it from my perspective tbh. I spend the game looking at Damerion giving him the massive benefit of the doubt and crumbing cop all night so I'm excited that I was actually right. Then btdt claims rb on my way into work and I'm deflated af because I think it's a cc and my ego takes another hit at being wrong so I just auto vote Damerion and go to work (which is super busy) and don't care much more than that. why cant mafia be excited to find a cop crumb? especially if one of them is Godfather... | ||
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On January 25 2018 01:36 beentheredonethat wrote: Slow down. Not true.You're just repeating what I said already  . I'm a bit torn on that matter. I dont want to talk anymore about this fake-cop claim. But a dead cop is the same as a dead townie. Remember, if damerion was a "mislynch", the game would be in LYLO next cycle. There are (perceived) valid reasons for even a town player to "fake-claim" in that scenario - unfortunately. In the end, damerion is mafia. We know it, he knows it. Anything he says is likely to be filled with WIFOM. DONT DRINK THE WINE! That Kelsier post may be the key to why he was shot night 1. Thats the type of WIFOM i prefer to talk about. | ||
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On January 25 2018 08:19 Holyflare wrote: What about them?You are massively missing Kmatt's posts. | ||
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HF lynched damdred for a reaction he believes wasnt anti-town play Now Rels has pinged HF in the same reaction loop. And HF doesnt want a bar of it lol. | ||
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On January 25 2018 08:16 Holyflare wrote: No, im saying you are presenting biased position.what does this even mean? are you saying damerion is the cop? "im town, i was excited to find the cop crumb" well, if anything, mafia are more excited is the other side of the coin. NAI. | ||
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On January 25 2018 08:27 Mocsta wrote: The whole irony of this is: HF lynched damdred for a reaction he believes was Now Rels has pinged HF in the same reaction loop. And HF doesnt want a bar of it lol. | ||
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I will admit my first read is compelling, and you made me nod my head. In particular, given that this individual is self-admittedly barely reading the game: the godfather instant assertion I think is a bona fide point to raise. The non-congruence is potentially NAI as it may be be associated with reading in pockets of time. You have motivated me to look through his filter in more depth, bbs | ||
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On January 25 2018 08:35 Holyflare wrote: I hate this saying, but at this point I will agree to disagree.No, mafia is only excited if he's the actual cop. And you're saying he's not the actual cop... ergo... Its not worth shitting the thread up on this matter any further. mafia are excited to find blue crumbs, and obviously also excited when the blue is manifested. /end | ||
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sublte confidence when responding to reads on town players e.g On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote: [re: prplhz] I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already. On January 20 2018 01:51 Kmatt wrote: This is of note as HF pointed out, because, there is nothing to represent why the reaction WAS NOT seriously incriminating.Also I don't see myself voting Damdred today unless he does something seriously incriminating. [..]. Its also interesting that his activity spikes to peak levels following the cop play, with an intent to draw a claim. On January 25 2018 03:45 Kmatt wrote: lmao no. If I see a counterclaim of any other blue I would hang him on the spot. The fact that no townie is taking an easy 1-for-1 tells me that he wasn't bullshitting. The other point of interest is the Day1 vote. On January 20 2018 09:00 kitaman27 wrote: After DF flipped, I thought that a scum kmatt would HAVE to vote as too risky for foley.Day One Final Vote Count Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, beentheredonethat (4): darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat Damdred has been lynched. However, when you re-look at the order the votes came in, the line-in-the-sand was quite firmly drawn (i.e. existing vote count was committed).. so even if BTDT voted on DF, Damdred would still be lynched for getting to 4 votes first. Its an interesting observation with hindsight now, because kmatt actually had the power to lynch btdt to save df. | ||
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Found this lol "also we can make the basic assumption based on our roles that there's 2 town PRs. likely 1 cop/vigi and 1 doc/vet" | ||
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Thoughts on kmatt stuff above? | ||
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Howevee the day1 lynch would only hit darthfoley if both absentee voters placed their votes together. If the two absent voters are town. Scum should be panicked given dameriom and dathfoley were locked on thrir targrts. However if one of the absent voters is scum. Well. Darthfoley was never at risk of being lynched. | ||
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On January 25 2018 22:51 justanothertownie wrote: i thought the first part was quite solid acutallyNot a lot. Doesn't really convince me. Sure, I don't have a good reason to think kmatt is town but this stuff does not do it for me. Especially the first part of HFs post just looks like he is trying to paint something weird as scummy when it is just weird. I dont understand town motivation for this from any perspective. Why cant weird correlate with scummy? The wholr point of this game is to catch people acting awkward because they are being intentionally psychopathic? | ||
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On January 25 2018 22:53 justanothertownie wrote: I also do not award scumpoints for defending damerion this phase and have no idea why HF does. Not sure if this is a typo As can be construes that you are awarsing HF toen points lol Im pretty sure this isnt what you meant | ||
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One weird interaction in isolation may be meaningless This is about multiple weird events and improved context given flips. For a guy that doesnt have firm scum reads.. he sure as heck has excellent town reads through these "weird" comments and no explanation | ||
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Anything to do with damerion today is wifom Eslecially because thread absence does not ewuate to qt absence I think caution should br applied in particular when he also was fishing for a counter claim Definitely not pro town mkve. Even more so with coaching factor | ||
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Gf or mafia Pretty obvious choice to me... | ||
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On January 26 2018 01:10 mderg wrote: inject more wifomimo kmatts play is more likely to come from scum than from town. That doesn't necessarily mean that he is scum, though. I can imagine the role wifom coming from a uncertain town player. Even with coach..... | ||
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