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On January 19 2018 15:42 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 15:35 Mocsta wrote:
rsoultin,
In retrospect, I would like to hear HF thoughts on my damdred observations.
Whilst I dont like HF voting damdred for behaviour instead of motive; it is also arguable I could only discern motive through a vote on behaviour.
My problem is a town or mafia HF could easily say they voted damdred because of the meta case as a prod...
where does that get us? He voted him for admitting he says like a lot and is trying to change it. Hf can say what he wants. His filter shows this to be the reason. Also, can you quote what you think is aoe?
(1) Im not sure what is "aoe"
If you are referring to appeal to emotion by damdred, its in my vote post... whilst brushing off damerion, he keeps trying to casually bring back to the fore mocsta/DF, without substantiating why its relevant or trying to develop it further... to me, the purpose of that is to get others to grab the idea and flesh it out on his behalf... hence appeal to emotion / puppet master play.
(2) As for HF
I understand to an extent what you are saying; and agree there are points that HF needs to clarify.
Best lynch of the day though?? I am still not seeing it.
(3) How about we change topic.
What are your thoughts on darthfoley and mderg?
Since you like wagon timings... what do you think about rels?
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On January 19 2018 15:53 rsoultin wrote:
Let me try to explain why this is nonsense. Damerion lays down a long meta read, including damdred's method of looking for town d1 to narrow down to a scumread (which is true but disregards that this does not preclude Damdred from also getting slight scumreads) and adds this valley girl point:
He gets excited and uses like a lot! He's not doing that. Must be scum.
Damdred: I noticed that and have been tryin to change it.
Holyflare: you admitted to saying like a lot when you're town and you're not doing it! Scum claim!
While I can see the coincidence being suspicious hf's response is entirely disingenuous. There is no way that he thinks this makes Damdred slam dunk scum. He is not retarded. Yes, this is all understood.
Changing the way we post, is behavioural... Its why I said HF voted Damdred for behaviour.
I disregard that whole argument as a case, because I too have tried changing my posting style within games. Whilst not a tell... i infer it to be a valid poke that elicited a genuine dodgy response.
Having said that, I fail to understand how everyone on the wagon must be scum.
Last i checked, there were 4 votes on damdred (if you exclude mine).. and 3 mafia.
Are you saying that all 4 mafia reside within: Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, Rels
Because I am hard green on TWAT.
That leaves your scum team as DAmerion, HF, Rels?
Please.. tell me more about Rels then.
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Lets put HF and the others aside, since they are covered to some degree.
you are hard on damdred and you think its completely OK for him to pursue a lead without evidence.
Tell me, does this fit within your knowledge of how damdred plays?
Everything about him to me reads as measured and carefully considered.. proofing before posting possibly more than twice. Everything is INTENTIONAL...
If you have this player that is known to focus on his town-reads first... why then, +1 thread sentiment with no additional reasoning or attempt to probe into me or DF further?
Is this really town play to you for a regarded player (to borrow your HF line)
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i be heading off now, but im disappointed we can't see eye to eye about damdred.
I will have a think about how I can communicate what I am seeing more clearly.. remember, Im not viewing damdred in isolation of a meta-case. - which you appear to be fixated with.
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the kids are asleep, the pinot is flowing freely and flume is on the playlist.
tis a good night!
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Sorry guys
Tl server crashed so i havent caught up
Watching a movie now 
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Purge
Pressure Day2
[*]Kmatt
Keep by association / Review on Day 3
Circle-Jerk
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ehhhh...... that desire to edit!! sigh.
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On January 19 2018 15:35 Mocsta wrote:
rsoultin,
In retrospect, I would like to hear HF thoughts on my damdred observations.
Whilst I dont like HF voting damdred for behaviour instead of motive; it is also arguable I could only discern motive through a vote on behaviour.
[...] nice attempt at a strawman though
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On January 20 2018 20:41 Holyflare wrote:
And then you neglected the rest of the game where I elaborated on damdred and used your exact points to further my case, that he was appealing to emotions and trying to get people to unvote him based on that. I had to read your filter twice to even know what you were talking about.
Then I realised, it could only be this sole whining-to-yourself post
"I don't understand why it's so fucking hard to lynch damdred when he's literally doing shit all and makes a post to appease people and fucks off again. It's really quite simple that this is nothing like town damdred at all."
Kudos again on the strawman and ad hominem approach.
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I shall illuminate my top 2 reads in further detail to connect how and more importantly why they are a scum pairing.
Please refer to my 4000 word case below.
Why is DF scum
Read DF Filter, and dont tell me you dont see this....
+ Show Spoiler +
Why is HF scum
Read HF Filter, and dont tell me you dont see this...
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHo1KpOjCsKi538Y_c9XMB_mN5vCd0B0Vw94Wupj4u4XP7Qkpj) and... wait for it. ![[image loading]](https://media1.tenor.com/images/bd7e85e963017a2ae67c845649af98e6/tenor.gif?itemid=7658718)
Why does it work together
+ Show Spoiler +
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On January 21 2018 04:12 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 23:26 Mocsta wrote:I shall illuminate my top 2 reads in further detail to connect how and more importantly why they are a scum pairing. Please refer to my 4000 word case below. Why is DF scumRead DF Filter, and dont tell me you dont see this.... + Show Spoiler +Why is HF scumRead HF Filter, and dont tell me you dont see this... + Show Spoiler +and... wait for it. yawn
It does get boring watching from the outside i gather.....
Yawn back at cha
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On January 21 2018 08:40 Holyflare wrote:
Would like to shoot mocsta 200% though yea im the vet hf
2 shots pls
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Rsoultin
Note hf setting up for day2 lynch focus before damdred flipped
Note his day2 target was damdred prime target
I asked before if i should expect more from town hf.
The answer is unequivocally yes.
The lack of activity i get. We are all busy.
Its the "confirmation bias" hf is applying kn things that are clearly not alignment indicativr... same thing as darthfoley.
Since when is a case built on "minutia" indicative of town or mafia to quote df.
Btw... check out kelsier reads before lynch and the kill is staring to make lots of sense
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This is not a reason to lynch homyflare... just a general fact.
He is harder to lynh as the game goes on
Whether town or scum
I actually think damerion stupid caae/poke on a good town player is more likely to originate feom town. Almost suicide if scum... outcome is clear from the current sentiment...
To me focus for this lynch is holyflare mderg and perhaps damerion.
I still like twat regardless of disappearing.
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Rsoultin
Good point abouy prplhz
Its odd he isnt up to date with thr game yet knows to trust your vote?
Quiten brazen if town now i think about it more
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Btw
Holyflare is the guy that calls damdred scum for thinking me and darthfoley are scum
Yet thinks im scum with damdred.....
Town hf is not this infallible
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im curious why hf said prplhz is town
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