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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 02 2018 11:26 GMT
#2001
On February 02 2018 20:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 20:13 Mocsta wrote:
After calling me hard town. You then proceed to flip me for no reason.

2 town lychds bruh

What is he supposed to do if he is town? Keep townreading you?
before night kill ....
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
February 02 2018 11:27 GMT
#2002
On February 02 2018 20:24 Koshi wrote:
The only thing left for me is to make 100% sure JAT is not mafia. Everything else is not in my hands.

Wouldn't that be awesome?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 02 2018 11:28 GMT
#2003
On February 02 2018 20:23 Koshi wrote:
This all begging and pleading thing is not my thing. It also doesnt work imo.

Fully agree with this

Maybe we lynch jat together lol
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 02 2018 11:28 GMT
#2004
On February 02 2018 20:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 20:13 Koshi wrote:
I did by far the most analysis the last day btw. Read all filters multile times. And made 200 posts.

Dnu why you are so upset. I did moaaaar than enough

Then it should't even be a lot of effort for you to summarize for me why mocsta is mafia. Go.

... same for you. Literally same for you.

I think I was on Mocsta when I entered the game. Pretty good read. Maybe I had analysis there.

If you really really really desperately need me to do it again I will... but the fact you lynched hf and after that we lynched Rels says it wont be ironclad.


It's all guts and experience now. The evidence is there. So I guess now that I know I should be able to pick it out and correctly guess his way of thinking. Slightly easier when you know.


But not doing that on phone
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 02 2018 11:28 GMT
#2005
On February 02 2018 20:16 Mocsta wrote:
Jat

This is pointless

Tell me.. why am i scum
Day 1 to now

I dare you
im still waiting
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
February 02 2018 11:30 GMT
#2006
On February 02 2018 20:28 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 20:16 Mocsta wrote:
Jat

This is pointless

Tell me.. why am i scum
Day 1 to now

I dare you
im still waiting

And you will be for quite a while. Sucks to be you I guess.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 02 2018 11:31 GMT
#2007
On February 02 2018 20:28 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 20:23 Koshi wrote:
This all begging and pleading thing is not my thing. It also doesnt work imo.

Fully agree with this

Maybe we lynch jat together lol

Hey. Find a way JAT isnt 100% confirmed town and I am willing to listen. Mafia veteran shooting himself is a bit too much way up there though.

For me this is JAT his game to win. You made it like this.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 02 2018 11:34 GMT
#2008
On January 30 2018 05:12 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2018 04:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
It also was HF's top scum read if that's not enough for you.

Free Pro-tip:
Open HF filter
ctrl + f
type "mocsta"
press next a couple times.



HF wasn't horrible early. Well he had the other mafia as top town but at least his Mocsta read was good.


I think this was actually a good thing. HF made a couple good posts about mocsta.

Man... reading my page 1... I should have done that earlier. But Mocsta filter is top notch. But because you dive too deep. On the surface the feeling in the thread was against Mocsta. But once in the swamps.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 02 2018 11:38 GMT
#2009
Reading Rels his filter ruined my game
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 02 2018 11:38 GMT
#2010
On February 02 2018 20:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2018 05:12 Koshi wrote:
On January 30 2018 04:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
It also was HF's top scum read if that's not enough for you.

Free Pro-tip:
Open HF filter
ctrl + f
type "mocsta"
press next a couple times.



HF wasn't horrible early. Well he had the other mafia as top town but at least his Mocsta read was good.


I think this was actually a good thing. HF made a couple good posts about mocsta.

Man... reading my page 1... I should have done that earlier. But Mocsta filter is top notch. But because you dive too deep. On the surface the feeling in the thread was against Mocsta. But once in the swamps.

Countered:
On January 30 2018 19:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2018 20:47 Mocsta wrote:
im happy to clear BTDT by association after reading Darthfoley filter
the nitpicking case reminds me of the bullshit he stated for me being scum.

So i think mderg summary below is accurate.
On January 21 2018 19:14 mderg wrote:
So this is where I'm at:

Day One Final Vote Count

Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, Rels, Mocsta, Rels
beentheredonethat (4): rsoultin, KelsierSC, mderg, Rels, darthfoley, prplhz, Rels
darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin
Holyflare (0): mderg, Mocsta, rsoultin
prplhz (0): Mocsta

Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat


Its not unheard of for scum to not vote, but its not something I would be willing to consider at this stage. Even with 2 town being prime bandwagon, the fact that DF was semi-close to a lynch should force a scum kmatt to vote.
So kmatt is effectively green for today.

Im still green on TWAT + Rels

2 scum within: damerion, HF, mderg, prplhz

If damdred is the player everyone says he is, its quite the mastermind effort to facillitate a lynch him day1.
This points to HF for me by default.

need to know why Hf thinks prplhz is town.

gonna start looking into mderg in more detail


Mocsta is actually obvious town lol.
Goddamn.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 02 2018 11:43 GMT
#2011
Like READ THIS JAT

comes into thread and insta-votes me.
"finally" reads the game, and now im obvious town.
lynches rels
knows you have to die as confirmed tonw, and im pro-mderg
only chance to win is this bullshit.
@NIGHT.. FLIPS HIS READ ON OBVIOUS TOWN.. KILLS MDERG.

LIKE FFS... what more is needed?

On January 30 2018 22:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2018 22:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 30 2018 21:56 Koshi wrote:
Rells calls me mafia. I call Rels mafia.

It's on you people to see if we are both wrong. If not. Lynch one of us. Ez. 2 lynches left.

Sure, but if you are both town it is as much your job to find the mafia as it is ours. I will not drive discussion today or decide a lynch early. No need for a second dead dayphase in a row and I need the remaining townies to show themselves/commit to something without just following my lead because it is impossible to find mafia otherwise.

I already did those things. I went through mocsta and mderg. My call is both are town.

I have pulled quotes that make those people town. I have gave my reasoning why Rels is mafia.

If you want more give analysis yourself and I will conment. But I have done more than any of you today. And I have reached a conclusion.
On January 31 2018 08:04 Koshi wrote:
So yeah.

I think JAT knows I am town. I also think he will vote Rels.
Mocsta will most likely vote me. He convinced himself over the course of the game and needs to see my flip.
mderg I don't know. Probably has the deciding vote.

I was nice to mderg. But Rels has been pocketing him quite well as well.


I think there is enough evidence and data in this thread.
gl hf to the players.


On January 31 2018 08:46 Koshi wrote:
Damerion filter probably looks the best for Mocsta. Btdt Mocsta and HF were the people he tried to sell his claim the most too.

Nothing on mderg and the little reply to Rels is not enough to base anything on.
On January 31 2018 09:07 Koshi wrote:
Ovwrall I would be suprised if both df and damerion talked so much about their teammate Mocsta.

Mderg has a low filter and it makes sense mafia doesnt talk about him if he is town. Just keep him alive and dont townclear him to the thread.
Mderg on the other hand talked about them. So I think it is more likely mafia ignored and didnt talk to town!mderg to draw less attention to them. And mderg probably didnt have enough weight in the thread to ve listened to by the vets.

Rels looks the worst because both the mafia didnt talk about him. And like I said before, Rels didnt prodded them enough. Rels even +1ed a good post against damerion early vut didnt take that into consideration later.


Conclusion is same as before. Rels is mafia.
On January 31 2018 18:33 Koshi wrote:
Dnu about that lylo. I am not sure I would lynch mderg. And not sure Mocsta will as well.

Goddamn I read mderg 2 times already.

It is true his play is safe. Hmmm. I guess we need to meta read now... if he is more emotional as town. Because I have 0 meta in my head.
On February 01 2018 09:18 Koshi wrote:
I think town loses though. 50/50 I am right. And then mocsta thinks I am mafia so...

JAT do something good during night. Think we will need it.
On February 01 2018 16:34 Koshi wrote:
I woke up knowing it is mocsta.
Him lynching outside his 60/40 is indeed super bad.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 02 2018 11:43 GMT
#2012
On February 02 2018 20:38 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 20:34 Koshi wrote:
On January 30 2018 05:12 Koshi wrote:
On January 30 2018 04:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
It also was HF's top scum read if that's not enough for you.

Free Pro-tip:
Open HF filter
ctrl + f
type "mocsta"
press next a couple times.



HF wasn't horrible early. Well he had the other mafia as top town but at least his Mocsta read was good.


I think this was actually a good thing. HF made a couple good posts about mocsta.

Man... reading my page 1... I should have done that earlier. But Mocsta filter is top notch. But because you dive too deep. On the surface the feeling in the thread was against Mocsta. But once in the swamps.

Countered:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2018 19:51 Koshi wrote:
On January 21 2018 20:47 Mocsta wrote:
im happy to clear BTDT by association after reading Darthfoley filter
the nitpicking case reminds me of the bullshit he stated for me being scum.

So i think mderg summary below is accurate.
On January 21 2018 19:14 mderg wrote:
So this is where I'm at:

Day One Final Vote Count

Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, Rels, Mocsta, Rels
beentheredonethat (4): rsoultin, KelsierSC, mderg, Rels, darthfoley, prplhz, Rels
darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin
Holyflare (0): mderg, Mocsta, rsoultin
prplhz (0): Mocsta

Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat


Its not unheard of for scum to not vote, but its not something I would be willing to consider at this stage. Even with 2 town being prime bandwagon, the fact that DF was semi-close to a lynch should force a scum kmatt to vote.
So kmatt is effectively green for today.

Im still green on TWAT + Rels

2 scum within: damerion, HF, mderg, prplhz

If damdred is the player everyone says he is, its quite the mastermind effort to facillitate a lynch him day1.
This points to HF for me by default.

need to know why Hf thinks prplhz is town.

gonna start looking into mderg in more detail


Mocsta is actually obvious town lol.
Goddamn.

You know whats weird. That quote doesnt even remotely look town anymore... Dnu. I read your filter and I got fucked.

It looked just way better than Rels his filter. And not the I am mafia and kbow things betyer good way. Just better. Overall.

Oh well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 02 2018 11:53 GMT
#2013
Dnu. You overestimate my scum play a bit.
Normally speaking JAT knows when I am town and mderg probably less.
But the other way around...
If I were mafia I think JAT would know it 100% and maybe mderg could be fooled. Same with you then.

As mafia it really doesnt make sense for me not to kill JAT. I probably killed him n1. Or killed Rels. Bit in this world btdt was also a good kill cuz he tunnels me.

But yeah... JAT knows I am town 75%. That is your problem mocsta.


The game is already decided. It's just how the dices will land tomorrow night.

Town wins 75% of the time. JAT knows. He just refuses to be certain about things.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 02 2018 11:56 GMT
#2014
25% he kills me for a comment I made that looked scummy in his eyes and he is pondering about.

75% we win cuz he realises he knows.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 02 2018 11:56 GMT
#2015
jat.. koshi keeps appealing to your fear

im showing you facts.

koshi knew I was sided with mderg
koshi knew the final 3 with me + mderg is GG
koshi kills mderg knowing you will side with him

dont fall for this immature emotional bullshit
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 02 2018 11:58 GMT
#2016
On February 02 2018 20:53 Koshi wrote:
As mafia it really doesnt make sense for me not to kill JAT. I probably killed him n1. Or killed Rels. ......
]FALSE OR MISLEADING INFORMATION - JUDGE

you werent in the game

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
February 02 2018 12:00 GMT
#2017
On February 02 2018 20:56 Mocsta wrote:
jat.. koshi keeps appealing to your fear

im showing you facts.

koshi knew I was sided with mderg
koshi knew the final 3 with me + mderg is GG
koshi kills mderg knowing you will side with him

dont fall for this immature emotional bullshit

Koshi is literally doing the opposite. He was doing his best for me to lynch him.
I don't see why the other final 3 would be gg.
I also don't see why koshi would know that I will side with him when during the night I literally gave reasons for him to be mafia and not you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
February 02 2018 12:01 GMT
#2018
So this argument fits you better than him.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 02 2018 12:07 GMT
#2019
like this is literally immediate quotes from people near their death..
Rels = Town
On February 01 2018 05:15 Rels wrote:
anyway I'm really tired so I'm gonna go to sleep soonish. If I'm lynched, I think mderg is scum. Like, 90% sure I think.
I cannot see Mocsta being scum.
I can see Koshi being scum, but if he is he's playing well now. But he can definitely tryhard for a few days as scum. What pushed me is that host WIFOM thing. I still think scum don't get replaced like that when the game cuold just have ended with a modkill. It doesn't make sense to me. I think it makes Koshi 90% town. I would be way less sure if it was Mocsta vs Koshi.


mderg = not firm town, not firm scum (similar outcome to Rels...)
On January 31 2018 21:13 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2018 21:03 mderg wrote:
On January 31 2018 20:48 mderg wrote:
On January 31 2018 20:31 mderg wrote:
On January 31 2018 20:18 mderg wrote:
Taking a look at Mocsta now

Not the most impressive day1, some pressure on df but latched onto the damdred wagon. I don't particularly like his reasons for voting damdred. Took a very strong stance on df being scum in night1, though.

Lots of long-winded explanations throughout the whole game which often made me struggle to see where he's going.

Did have more proper reads than I remembered, it's just the votes that go to the easy wagons to jump on.
Day2 was talking about lots of things but put his vote on prplhz without talking that much about him. Not that there was much to be said about prlphz, little content, looked pretty scummy.

Day3 was hard to follow his thought process, lots of theorizing, some defending of Damerion but not really committing to it. Was convinced of Damerion's scumminess by jat.
"Sheeped" Hf on kmatt. I kind of liked him going against the thread to lynch kmatt over hf. Didn't particularly like the "everyone who cares is probably" town line of reasoning.

Day4 was kind of dead, Mocsta wanted kmatt over hf lynch. Not sure why he voted hf, though.


Overall a decent amount of prodding, some good posts and thoughts, often missing direction, difficult to follow his thought process.
The things he said were townie, the things he did a bit less so.



RSoultin = Town
On January 23 2018 20:57 rsoultin wrote:
And anyway, sorry holyflare. I know that if you're town you really want it to be mocsta, [green]but rereading his filter his interactions with darth foley don't look like scum v scum to me.[/green[ Volatile double buss for what purpose?


JAT.. this game comes down to Darthfoley.. either you agree I wanted him lynched Day2.. or you dont.

On January 20 2018 23:26 Mocsta wrote:
I shall illuminate my top 2 reads in further detail to connect how and more importantly why they are a scum pairing.
Please refer to my 4000 word case below.

Why is DF scum
Read DF Filter, and dont tell me you dont see this....
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Why is HF scum
Read HF Filter, and dont tell me you dont see this...
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



and...

wait for it.

[image loading]


Why does it work together
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

On January 30 2018 19:49 Koshi wrote:
I understand this post now.
It is quite funny.



Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 02 2018 12:08 GMT
#2020
On February 02 2018 21:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2018 20:56 Mocsta wrote:
jat.. koshi keeps appealing to your fear

im showing you facts.

koshi knew I was sided with mderg
koshi knew the final 3 with me + mderg is GG
koshi kills mderg knowing you will side with him

dont fall for this immature emotional bullshit

Koshi is literally doing the opposite. He was doing his best for me to lynch him.
I don't see why the other final 3 would be gg.
I also don't see why koshi would know that I will side with him when during the night I literally gave reasons for him to be mafia and not you.
at least he has a debaters chance with you.
i didnt buckle on mderg.. been reading him hipster town all game.
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