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On December 16 2017 08:20 prplhz wrote:
The simplest explanation about all of this Palmar stuff is that he's the vig but decided to fuck around for a while (which is fairly common for Palmar).
True but I don't think he would even fuck around at that point expcally because I remember in Metal Mini he actually did try to find mafia a little bit or at least sheeped a good enough case after 2 mafia were killed by Day 2 onto the SK in that game although that was in 2013 into 2014 if I remember correctly..
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On December 16 2017 08:22 Kmatt wrote:
So about this SK business: If all mafia get lynched and multiple townies are alive, does the game end in a town victory or does it stay active until SK is killed?
The later.
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On December 16 2017 08:22 Arya321 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2017 08:20 prplhz wrote:
The simplest explanation about all of this Palmar stuff is that he's the vig but decided to fuck around for a while (which is fairly common for Palmar). True but I don't think he would even fuck around at that point expcally because I remember in Metal Mini he actually did try to find mafia a little bit or at least sheeped a good enough case after 2 mafia were killed by Day 2 onto the SK in that game although that was in 2013 into 2014 if I remember correctly..
"You're ostensibly right but I remember a game four years ago where he did something vaguely different"
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Come one LightningStrike, how many times have you read Palmar and thought "What on earth is this man even DOING?" only for him to be town? 9 out of 10 times?
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On December 16 2017 08:25 prplhz wrote:
Come one LightningStrike, how many times have you read Palmar and thought "What on earth is this man even DOING?" only for him to be town? 9 out of 10 times?
So if a player is impossible to read we leave him be? Even when he´s been caught defending scum, messing up discussion and derailing the whole D2? I don´t see Vigi-Palmar, I see a desperate scum that is trying anything that might work. I can´t explain the Grack shot, but that doesn´t make Palmar a confirmed Vigi.
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I’m not feeling well
I don’t understand defense of Palmar. even if town he shit up by fake claiming like 5 things for some dumb reason.
reminds me of when vivax fake claimed cop to try and get HF lynched and flipped town if he is town.
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On December 16 2017 08:37 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2017 08:25 prplhz wrote:
Come one LightningStrike, how many times have you read Palmar and thought "What on earth is this man even DOING?" only for him to be town? 9 out of 10 times? So if a player is impossible to read we leave him be? Even when he´s been caught defending scum, messing up discussion and derailing the whole D2? I don´t see Vigi-Palmar, I see a desperate scum that is trying anything that might work. I can´t explain the Grack shot, but that doesn´t make Palmar a confirmed Vigi.
Townies defend scum, it happens all the time. If D2 is messed up, which I don't know that it is, town is responsible for that as well. Lynching players for doing weird shit has literally never worked and if you wanna lynch someone for being unreadable, how about you start with Chezinu?
It kind of does make him confirmed vig. This lynching Palmar to hypothetically save a 1-shot vig makes no sense, vigs are generally shit and shoot townies and are mostly useful because they can confirm themselves through their actions, so lets have the vig claim and then we lynch Palmar and win 100%.
Unless there's an SK and Palmar is scum and hiding behind the SK kill, which is the most plausible, I'll grant Koshi that, but not very plausible at all. Palmar's case yesterday and his effort today after outing himself at the very least to a third party who wants him dead doesn't make any sense from a scum perspective.
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On December 16 2017 08:40 Conversion wrote:
I’m not feeling well
I don’t understand defense of Palmar. even if town he shit up by fake claiming like 5 things for some dumb reason.
reminds me of when vivax fake claimed cop to try and get HF lynched and flipped town if he is town.
But we don't lynch townies because we are angry with how they play. That's rule 1 of mafia.
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Hey, if the vig is not claiming because he's multishot, lets not lynch Palmar but let them duel it the fuck out during the night, how about it Forumite?
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Eh this mafia Palmar hiding behind SK idea is just too messed up and it's the most plausible explanation of Palmar being scum.
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It also hinges on Palmar knowing or betting on that there is an SK. Instead of just going back on his claim and saying that he wasn't serious (and he has a history of fakeclaiming so whatever).
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On December 16 2017 08:25 prplhz wrote:
Come one LightningStrike, how many times have you read Palmar and thought "What on earth is this man even DOING?" only for him to be town? 9 out of 10 times?
In this game or other games?
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I’m not angey with how he played I just can’t fathom town!anyone doing this shit
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On December 16 2017 08:48 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2017 08:40 Conversion wrote:
I’m not feeling well
I don’t understand defense of Palmar. even if town he shit up by fake claiming like 5 things for some dumb reason.
reminds me of when vivax fake claimed cop to try and get HF lynched and flipped town if he is town. But we don't lynch townies because we are angry with how they play. That's rule 1 of mafia.
I'm not angry with him, but Palmar was scumread by multiple people prior to the D1 lynch. Since then he's only given us more reason to lynch.
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KOSHI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On December 16 2017 08:50 prplhz wrote:
Eh this mafia Palmar hiding behind SK idea is just too messed up and it's the most plausible explanation of Palmar being scum.
If Palmar is taking credit for a SK shot then the SK will leave him to Town while shooting townies in the night. An SK isn´t going to kill Palmar for us.
The only problem with this is why Grack? Vigis prefer to kill lurkers while SKs kill whoever is pushing them or is most likely to find them. SKs are fighting for survival, not eliminating scummy players. SKs hunt scum by day to fit in and look townie, but by night it´s all about looking out for themselves.
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On December 16 2017 09:02 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2017 08:50 prplhz wrote:
Eh this mafia Palmar hiding behind SK idea is just too messed up and it's the most plausible explanation of Palmar being scum. If Palmar is taking credit for a SK shot then the SK will leave him to Town while shooting townies in the night. An SK isn´t going to kill Palmar for us. The only problem with this is why Grack? Vigis prefer to kill lurkers while SKs kill whoever is pushing them or is most likely to find them. SKs are fighting for survival, not eliminating scummy players. SKs hunt scum by day to fit in and look townie, but by night it´s all about looking out for themselves.
Grack was one of the only people to publicly scumread Palmar at the time. Both he and Oats were on him since early on in the game. It wasn't until just before Oats went down that anyone else considered him seriously.
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@Palmar Is Koshi scum or is he just tunneling so hard he invented this insane SK scenario in a desperate attempt to avoid you being confirmed town?
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EPT
