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On December 14 2017 05:55 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 05:54 Conversion wrote: I am town. I'm still going to play. I just kept my drama queen bitching to that post
if we're going by the logic of defend obvious townie because I'm mafia and I know who's town, Palmar/Forumite/Oats/Grack are four people who defended me. Palmar backed off after Koshi, called me null. Forumite said I wasn't scum, not entirely sure if he called me town. Grack called me pretty obviously town and compared my scum filter from newbie game. Oats said DF's case is bad and then died with no follow up
Oats dies, flips scum.
Palmar/Forumite/Grack. I highly doubt all 3 mafia would hedge and try to defend me. that seems weird.
I'm going to treat Forumite as confirmed town right now because having Oats die is just dumb. He could have sheeped and gotten me lynched instead.
Palmar/Grack. Both voted off wagon. I'd like to believe this is 50/50 Mafia/Town. in this current situation I like Palmar lynch more because he voted, at this point in time, my confirmed townie and just AFKed.
If we're going by 50/50 logic there still is at least another mafia. maybe 2? idk how 14 man setups work. this I'm going to have to work for, and I still don't like Eversince randomly jumping on Oats train with a disconnect in their filter and how he/she landed on oats.
Most likely it's someone in HF/Koshi/DF. This is a good place to start. I'll add Ever in there because previous reason. I can't read these three as they all have points that make them town in my eyes, but also scummy, so I'd like someone to discuss with me on who the remaining 2 scum might be Chezinu is in this game.
I forgot about Chezinu. That is not good. Rereading his filter, very short. not a lot of content. a lot of blabberign about Chezinu Rule.
He was happy with Conversion/Kmatt/Oats, but ended up on Kmatt.
Does this make him scum? who knows. I will keep suspicion on him, but you would know better. I am not good at filtering low post people
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DF I still am not sure on what your next action is here because all of our discussion back and forth with each other has been centered around me
where is your head right now?
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also just realized I am a mutalisk. I will miss my lurker, as I am bad at muta micro
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On December 13 2017 08:22 Palmar wrote: I also think Oats looks potentially okay.
Grack's tone is terrible but maybe it's because I haven't really read much of his posts.
darthfoley has literally said _nothing_ that matters throughout the game. I don't know if it makes him mafia.
On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote: I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.
His filter is basically empty.
But still ends up on Forumite?
I am confused. why would town!Palmar kinda like killing Oats but not get on the wagon?
Is he the type of player to want to lead town into his strong beliefs?
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Is anyone here? we are all AFKing until day?
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I need people to talk to me about the state of the game. there is enough content and I do not want town to fall into a lull and have mafia run rampant
What are your thoughts? whoever is around
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DF is suspicious to me because he played like this last game, except being tunneled on me he tunneled onto stan. What is worrying to me is that town!DF would try to solve the game, but instead he wants to insult be for being dramatic.
which he also did last game as scum
maybe he is just sick of me
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On December 14 2017 06:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 06:04 Conversion wrote:On December 13 2017 08:22 Palmar wrote: I also think Oats looks potentially okay.
Grack's tone is terrible but maybe it's because I haven't really read much of his posts.
darthfoley has literally said _nothing_ that matters throughout the game. I don't know if it makes him mafia. On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote: I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.
His filter is basically empty. But still ends up on Forumite? I am confused. why would town!Palmar kinda like killing Oats but not get on the wagon? Is he the type of player to want to lead town into his strong beliefs? Cos mafia
who is your last mafia? if your call is that it is within koshi/df/you, so I guess it is koshi vs DF ? or is there more than 3?
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On December 14 2017 06:21 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 06:00 Conversion wrote: DF I still am not sure on what your next action is here because all of our discussion back and forth with each other has been centered around me
where is your head right now? Here's where I am: confused. Ignoring your alignment for a second, I'm not sure why there wasn't a legitimate counter wagon against Oats. He was a strong role. I look to either Koshi or HF. Both of them are strong willed enough to try and push a Conversion lynch down town's throats if they're mafia with Oats. They also have an ally in me who has shown some flashes of being able to sway lynches in the past. Neither of them try. Koshi especially seems content just sitting back. Their play doesn't make sense from mafia POV. The only strong willed player who seemingly tried to divert any attention away from Oats was Palmar with his case on Forumite. It wasn't a bad case, but mafia!Palmar can make good cases. I think Oats/Palmar/+1 bandwagoner or off wagon makes sense. There is a world where you and Oats are both mafia and mafia are just kinda fucked altogether, but I think the first scenario I laid out is more likely.
Thank you DF. Let us solve this game together if you are town!
it looks like we are consolidating onto a Palmar lynch Day 2. I will await other people's thoughts.
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On December 14 2017 06:21 Arya321 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 06:18 Conversion wrote: I need people to talk to me about the state of the game. there is enough content and I do not want town to fall into a lull and have mafia run rampant
What are your thoughts? whoever is around Palmar not jumping on Oat after seeing the flip is a bit strange. I know sometimes he is stubborn Day 1 because he says he is at his best Day 1. I think you are likely town based on how EoD went and how Oats tried to switch to you.
I believe Palmar admitted last game his D1 is complete shit, so I am not sure where you get this information. Palmar would especially know that his D1 is less likely toget listened to after he led us to a HF lynch last game on D1 over DarthFoley
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maybe c omplete shit is not the correct wording. he did say his D1 is not as good? maybe I am remembering wrong. I will meta check.
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I am remembering wrong. I am just making up facts due to the last game. I apologize for misinformation
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On December 14 2017 06:25 prplhz wrote: I think railroading Palmar on N1 is a pretty horrible idea.
What is this term, railroading?
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On December 14 2017 06:28 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2017 06:27 Conversion wrote:On December 14 2017 06:25 prplhz wrote: I think railroading Palmar on N1 is a pretty horrible idea. What is this term, railroading? It's like, just deciding on lynching him already. Let's talk about it during the day and not give scum information to work on.
I agree with you and we should keep talking
where is your head at? who are your top scum lists?
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On December 13 2017 23:33 VisceraEyes wrote: Koshi lolol
You're ridiculous. You come in here and call my play bad. You literally didn't do a fucking thing last game as town. A FUCKING THING. Your opinion of my play means LESS than nothing to me. And I love how you make this whole page of dumb observations about my play and end up on "He could be either thing, mafia or just bad."
And I'M the bad one. I just haven't even started trying yet because at the point I'd been playing to, not much had happened. What's your excuse?
This is maybe why he is mad at you, Koshi ? I would leave that to him when he comes back. I do not speak for him.
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On December 13 2017 23:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Ugh the double feel when Kmatt and Conversion are the only other currently viable wagons to Palmar.
Maybe I'll make it a ballgame and vote on Oatsmaster with Forumite. I think I'll make it a ballgame and vote on Oatsmaster with Forumite. Because I think Oatsmaster is more likely than not mafia and I'm pretty nullz0rz on Palmar yet.
##Unvote ##Vote: Oatsmaster
Palmar said something about me talking myself into voting him earlier, thinking I'm scum for it. It's this new thing I'm doing where I kinda just explain shittily my shitty thought process. Again. Haters can eat giant bags of dicks.
Also there's this kinda stink in the thread about me being "forced townie" or something? I don't know, it's still all dumb to me, it all just smacks of "looks town = mafia" to me, so I'm just going to continue to not really do anything about it but what I'm doing because....I still don't have any votes on me.
NIGHT TL!!!
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The way I see it is a lot of people had Oats as pretty scummy for randomly defending me with no follow up and that's why it gained traction. While my lynch was basically HF/Koshi/DF and then people arguing against them. Maybe scum thought they could still get me lynched even with people defending me, but then Oats gained a huge wagon and by then they could not do much.
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it is not a big post. I am just providing what he did
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I disagree with this "kind of" happening. I have called out Oats on why he defended me, and it snowballed from that.
+ Show Spoiler [Forumite] +On December 13 2017 22:08 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2017 21:50 Holyflare wrote:On December 13 2017 21:34 Forumite wrote:On December 13 2017 21:25 Holyflare wrote: I think forumite might be mafia. That's just a cursory not read much other than skimming point of view but he seems to be all about defending conversion and he seems a bit off. If you are sure on Conversion, would you make a case? The current case on Conversion is old and spread between Koshi and DF and maaany pages. I think Oats is scum. He doesn't post with much substance, and his defence of Conversion was lacklustre. Is one-liners how he usually plays? It's really not old and spread over many pages. If you read my posts, since there aren't that many, I said it was specifically the df case on conversion that made me sheep. It's just conversion repeatedly saying df is doing mafia things and then never actually calling him mafia. Why oats? Why is calling someone out without voting scummy? It wasn't a full case, maybe Conversion was unsure and decided to pressure. It's only scummy if he was trying to get a lynch going, or make people suspicious of DF, without calling attention to himself. I don't see that. My current scumreads are Oats and Kmatt. Both have very short filters and no concrete accusations, mostly staying under the radar. Oats mostly for his two posts defending conversion without acctually relieving pressure or countering argument, just pointing a finger at townies about to lynch townies. Show nested quote +On December 13 2017 11:11 Kmatt wrote:Oh, looks like I missed Conversion's question earlier On December 13 2017 10:00 Conversion wrote:Kmatt: scum for not writing the entire 12 days of christmas song fitted to mafia theme On December 13 2017 01:06 Kmatt wrote: While I'm not against lynching an AFK, Koshi did work the game I played with him, so I'd rather he live for now. And Palmar wagon is too mainstream for me.
Chezinu's posts offend my sensibilities, however ##Vote Chezinu
Just enough posts at the start to not be under the AFK lens, but staying completely out of the thread since then. this is weak pressure. instead of commenting on people who are being active and generating content, parks lazy afk vote on Chezinu. after that, asks two questions and ignores the entire thread on me being scum and such. might just be a playstyle thing? I don't comment = you're town? who knows I've been following this thread on and off but was more curious to see where Koshi (and hopefully Forumite if he ever comes back) were gonna take it. Also there wasn't much content at the time aside from the half-serious Palmar wagon, so I prefer to seek out a case on my own. I guess that counts as playstyle. What is he talking about? Why does he want my opinion on it? Also, soft accusing me of lurking. Is he steering away from the Palmar lynch? I'm on it, but didn't lead it. Possibly calling attention to me over prplhz and conversion, or it's unrelated to Palmar voting.
+ Show Spoiler [VisceralEyes] +On December 13 2017 23:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Ugh the double feel when Kmatt and Conversion are the only other currently viable wagons to Palmar.
Maybe I'll make it a ballgame and vote on Oatsmaster with Forumite. I think I'll make it a ballgame and vote on Oatsmaster with Forumite. Because I think Oatsmaster is more likely than not mafia and I'm pretty nullz0rz on Palmar yet.
##Unvote ##Vote: Oatsmaster
Palmar said something about me talking myself into voting him earlier, thinking I'm scum for it. It's this new thing I'm doing where I kinda just explain shittily my shitty thought process. Again. Haters can eat giant bags of dicks.
Also there's this kinda stink in the thread about me being "forced townie" or something? I don't know, it's still all dumb to me, it all just smacks of "looks town = mafia" to me, so I'm just going to continue to not really do anything about it but what I'm doing because....I still don't have any votes on me.
NIGHT TL!!!
+ Show Spoiler [prphlz] +On December 14 2017 01:07 prplhz wrote: Okay VisceraEyes is town and we just agree on Oatsmaster and it's really just that simple.
##Vote Oatsmaster
Not changing that vote, that was impossible to write on a phone.
and then the rest.
I'm not trying to take credit, but I do not really think it came out of nowhere
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On December 14 2017 06:36 prplhz wrote: I think darthfoley is town but I'm kind of undecided on everybody else. I actually still like Kmart for scum.
This is so lazy and does not try to really solve anything
Can you talk through your thoughts?
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