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On November 21 2017 04:48 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 04:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 21 2017 03:28 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 20 2017 09:06 darthfoley wrote:On November 20 2017 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Even though the df wagon looks super fast growing and not much defence against him or whatever I also think it's a good wagon. Even for the points hapa brought up but also because he just throws out free town reads for really random posts like Chezinu's posts etc. Why do you include this baloni qualifier at the beginning? If you like the wagon why are you also pointing out how it's quickly growing with no defense for me? Hedge master supreme Weird-ass post. On November 20 2017 10:36 Holyflare wrote:
And there's the things you pick out. You ask zboson, your town read, why he does such a weird pick mafia out of three thing but then when someone else asks what you think about lynching me/tw etc you don't give a shit about them asking that.
And you dislike kelsier's jarring comment which isn't particularly hard to fathom what he means at all. If he's mafia he's lying that something was jarring or what? What's your thought process behind him making that comment as mafia? Repeating previous arguments against DF for non-understandabe reasons. On November 21 2017 00:26 Holyflare wrote:Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately Weird comment Talking about Damdred. Doesnt like that someone wants to lynch damdred with that line of thought but... just a few posts before: On November 20 2017 18:06 Holyflare wrote:
Fwiw I think damdred could be mafia with an increasing probability So someone accuses a person that you think is mafia with "increasing probability" for some reason, and instead of trying to dissect the other argument to support and push it, he just says "weird comment"? What the fuckshit? Aside from that strange blooper, he does some to push Damdred on a strange read: On November 20 2017 18:07 Holyflare wrote:On November 19 2017 14:18 Damdred wrote:On November 19 2017 12:28 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote:
Chez
Boson
Rux
is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.
Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?
Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.
Just for curiosity, why is Rux on this list? I've strong town vibes from Chezinu unless his mafia is an evil best not spoken of. Rux is... ? Is this a meta read? As to his lynch order, it would be more relevant how he pursues it I'd say. Though I do want to understand why you and KeslierSC are at the top of his list. Seems kind of arbitrary. You know those dumb reads you sonetimes get and just know they are right? Rux is playful and doesnt seem to have much in the way of motives.Plus what I said earlier about us joking around and about the number of scum etc., its dumb and suoer early but his attitude and all make me not want to lynch him today and think of him as town.
Complete polar opposite to how he looks to me. So he is sus of Damdred for being sus of a person that he disagrees "doesn't seem to have much in the way of motives" (i.e. he also doesnt like ruxxar) He then continue to get some crappy "damdred sais ruxx is having fun, which is THE OPPOSITE of how I view him" Holyflare has just started being active after he felt some pressure. He is inconsistent in his reads and follow ups of damdred/ruxx. He has all but tunneled df mindlessly without adding much. Can we please murder him? ##Vote HF This conclusion is pushing it a bit. How was he inconsistent in his reads? Who has he tunneled? He tunneled DF, your lynch target, like crazy, when he was already up in votes. Used repeated arguments. He is inconsistent in his ruxx/Damdred reads. He was piling up on Damd being scum, and then someone says that "Damd", his target, should be lynched because <insert reason>. All he does is say "weird comment". Inconsistent to his supposed scum read. Damd also was against ruxx, whom he also happened to think was scummy looking. It smells man
That post was literally on the 3rd page of the game.
Why is it inconsistent though, inconsistent is if he calls damdred town, not calling other people who think damdred is scum scum.
Can you count the number of posts HF is talking about DF and count the number of posts im talking about DF?
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On November 21 2017 04:51 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 04:48 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 21 2017 04:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 21 2017 03:28 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 20 2017 09:06 darthfoley wrote:On November 20 2017 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Even though the df wagon looks super fast growing and not much defence against him or whatever I also think it's a good wagon. Even for the points hapa brought up but also because he just throws out free town reads for really random posts like Chezinu's posts etc. Why do you include this baloni qualifier at the beginning? If you like the wagon why are you also pointing out how it's quickly growing with no defense for me? Hedge master supreme Weird-ass post. On November 20 2017 10:36 Holyflare wrote:
And there's the things you pick out. You ask zboson, your town read, why he does such a weird pick mafia out of three thing but then when someone else asks what you think about lynching me/tw etc you don't give a shit about them asking that.
And you dislike kelsier's jarring comment which isn't particularly hard to fathom what he means at all. If he's mafia he's lying that something was jarring or what? What's your thought process behind him making that comment as mafia? Repeating previous arguments against DF for non-understandabe reasons. On November 21 2017 00:26 Holyflare wrote:Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately Weird comment Talking about Damdred. Doesnt like that someone wants to lynch damdred with that line of thought but... just a few posts before: On November 20 2017 18:06 Holyflare wrote:
Fwiw I think damdred could be mafia with an increasing probability So someone accuses a person that you think is mafia with "increasing probability" for some reason, and instead of trying to dissect the other argument to support and push it, he just says "weird comment"? What the fuckshit? Aside from that strange blooper, he does some to push Damdred on a strange read: On November 20 2017 18:07 Holyflare wrote:On November 19 2017 14:18 Damdred wrote:On November 19 2017 12:28 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote:
Chez
Boson
Rux
is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.
Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?
Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.
Just for curiosity, why is Rux on this list? I've strong town vibes from Chezinu unless his mafia is an evil best not spoken of. Rux is... ? Is this a meta read? As to his lynch order, it would be more relevant how he pursues it I'd say. Though I do want to understand why you and KeslierSC are at the top of his list. Seems kind of arbitrary. You know those dumb reads you sonetimes get and just know they are right? Rux is playful and doesnt seem to have much in the way of motives.Plus what I said earlier about us joking around and about the number of scum etc., its dumb and suoer early but his attitude and all make me not want to lynch him today and think of him as town.
Complete polar opposite to how he looks to me. So he is sus of Damdred for being sus of a person that he disagrees "doesn't seem to have much in the way of motives" (i.e. he also doesnt like ruxxar) He then continue to get some crappy "damdred sais ruxx is having fun, which is THE OPPOSITE of how I view him" Holyflare has just started being active after he felt some pressure. He is inconsistent in his reads and follow ups of damdred/ruxx. He has all but tunneled df mindlessly without adding much. Can we please murder him? ##Vote HF This conclusion is pushing it a bit. How was he inconsistent in his reads? Who has he tunneled? He tunneled DF, your lynch target, like crazy, when he was already up in votes. Used repeated arguments. He is inconsistent in his ruxx/Damdred reads. He was piling up on Damd being scum, and then someone says that "Damd", his target, should be lynched because <insert reason>. All he does is say "weird comment". Inconsistent to his supposed scum read. Damd also was against ruxx, whom he also happened to think was scummy looking. It smells man This is a good post  . Also not scummy to have more than one scum read and see which people would be willing to lynch Oats
How is it not scummy??!!?
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He doesn't want to commit on someone that everyone thinks is town, so he kept his options open until he had a pretty good idea of who most people thought was mafia then went in off that.
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On November 21 2017 04:51 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 04:47 Conversion wrote:On November 21 2017 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Hey ruxxar and conversion I’m interested in what you think about z-boss’ hf case dunno hf just generally seems very not-give-a-fuck and bored about mafia lately, so I don't think it's a particularly good case. didn't read into it too deeply/check HF's filter because I want stan lynched today Do you have like a concise case on Stan for me to compare to the hf case?
No case for Stan, but his filter is not too long. Only came up when summoned, random 180s, sheeped someone he didn't think was scum earlier, etc.
I think he has some chance of flipping red, but I'm preferring HF because of a heuristic: "I would think he would be less 180-like gratuitously in day one if he was scum"
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For example, if he says "I think oats is mafia, this is why vote oats" and people all think that im town, he's basically dead.
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On November 21 2017 04:50 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 04:45 Damdred wrote:On November 21 2017 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Hey ruxxar and conversion I’m interested in what you think about z-boss’ hf case Once palmar respected me, now he ignores me. Well in that case hf disagrees with you on Ruiz, but I kinda agree with you. I think rxx looks town. So you still exist in my world despite being at best a fancy prop.
Fancy prop can be useful.
Here is a dirty case on stan,
His reads are inconsistent early game and some reads ie read on myself and rux just get dropped and never revisited.
He also asks questions about myself and has no follow up and really does not seem to care.
When the df wagon starts going at a decent pace he hops on without any real explanation, he then misrepresents df filter to try to overjustify his vote on df.
He then dissapears obviously.
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I mean game is so easy we lynch hf and if he flips town we lynch oats for tmi.
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On November 21 2017 04:54 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 04:50 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2017 04:45 Damdred wrote:On November 21 2017 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Hey ruxxar and conversion I’m interested in what you think about z-boss’ hf case Once palmar respected me, now he ignores me. Well in that case hf disagrees with you on Ruiz, but I kinda agree with you. I think rxx looks town. So you still exist in my world despite being at best a fancy prop. Fancy prop can be useful. Here is a dirty case on stan, His reads are inconsistent early game and some reads ie read on myself and rux just get dropped and never revisited. He also asks questions about myself and has no follow up and really does not seem to care. When the df wagon starts going at a decent pace he hops on without any real explanation, he then misrepresents df filter to try to overjustify his vote on df. He then dissapears obviously.
This all sounds like clueless town. But I have nothing to back that up as I haven’t read a single post of his.
Mafia people are generally too careful to fuck up that much
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On November 21 2017 04:51 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 04:48 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 21 2017 04:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 21 2017 03:28 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 20 2017 09:06 darthfoley wrote:On November 20 2017 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Even though the df wagon looks super fast growing and not much defence against him or whatever I also think it's a good wagon. Even for the points hapa brought up but also because he just throws out free town reads for really random posts like Chezinu's posts etc. Why do you include this baloni qualifier at the beginning? If you like the wagon why are you also pointing out how it's quickly growing with no defense for me? Hedge master supreme Weird-ass post. On November 20 2017 10:36 Holyflare wrote:
And there's the things you pick out. You ask zboson, your town read, why he does such a weird pick mafia out of three thing but then when someone else asks what you think about lynching me/tw etc you don't give a shit about them asking that.
And you dislike kelsier's jarring comment which isn't particularly hard to fathom what he means at all. If he's mafia he's lying that something was jarring or what? What's your thought process behind him making that comment as mafia? Repeating previous arguments against DF for non-understandabe reasons. On November 21 2017 00:26 Holyflare wrote:Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately Weird comment Talking about Damdred. Doesnt like that someone wants to lynch damdred with that line of thought but... just a few posts before: On November 20 2017 18:06 Holyflare wrote:
Fwiw I think damdred could be mafia with an increasing probability So someone accuses a person that you think is mafia with "increasing probability" for some reason, and instead of trying to dissect the other argument to support and push it, he just says "weird comment"? What the fuckshit? Aside from that strange blooper, he does some to push Damdred on a strange read: On November 20 2017 18:07 Holyflare wrote:On November 19 2017 14:18 Damdred wrote:On November 19 2017 12:28 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote:
Chez
Boson
Rux
is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.
Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?
Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.
Just for curiosity, why is Rux on this list? I've strong town vibes from Chezinu unless his mafia is an evil best not spoken of. Rux is... ? Is this a meta read? As to his lynch order, it would be more relevant how he pursues it I'd say. Though I do want to understand why you and KeslierSC are at the top of his list. Seems kind of arbitrary. You know those dumb reads you sonetimes get and just know they are right? Rux is playful and doesnt seem to have much in the way of motives.Plus what I said earlier about us joking around and about the number of scum etc., its dumb and suoer early but his attitude and all make me not want to lynch him today and think of him as town.
Complete polar opposite to how he looks to me. So he is sus of Damdred for being sus of a person that he disagrees "doesn't seem to have much in the way of motives" (i.e. he also doesnt like ruxxar) He then continue to get some crappy "damdred sais ruxx is having fun, which is THE OPPOSITE of how I view him" Holyflare has just started being active after he felt some pressure. He is inconsistent in his reads and follow ups of damdred/ruxx. He has all but tunneled df mindlessly without adding much. Can we please murder him? ##Vote HF This conclusion is pushing it a bit. How was he inconsistent in his reads? Who has he tunneled? He tunneled DF, your lynch target, like crazy, when he was already up in votes. Used repeated arguments. He is inconsistent in his ruxx/Damdred reads. He was piling up on Damd being scum, and then someone says that "Damd", his target, should be lynched because <insert reason>. All he does is say "weird comment". Inconsistent to his supposed scum read. Damd also was against ruxx, whom he also happened to think was scummy looking. It smells man That post was literally on the 3rd page of the game. Why is it inconsistent though, inconsistent is if he calls damdred town, not calling other people who think damdred is scum scum. Can you count the number of posts HF is talking about DF and count the number of posts im talking about DF?
nah. I just got this from reading the interaction between pages 13-20 or something like that. Sure you've tunneled him harder, but that's not the sole reason. Can you explain why you think HF town?
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@Palmar
Disconnect between his lynch list at one point (Damdred->Kels->Lurkers), randomly enters thread voting largest wagon in DF. When asked several times by everyone in the thread why this logical jump happened, he gave an excuse why he wasn't here and then tried to deflect onto me and someone else. then finally gave his reasons why DF was scum
finally gives his reasons, but most of them aren't very good reasons to read DF as scum. looks to be flailing around trying to justify his AFK vote now
On November 21 2017 02:43 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Okey I'll adress this exactly ones because it's taking up way to much threadspace.
Why I think darthfoley is mafia.
1)There was the Boson contradiction
2)His only reads are town
3)His not lynching chez post (Yes it's an unserious joke but mafia are more inclined to write a excuse for doing something both because they have a desire to guard themselves from any inqusitive people before they ask and because since they don't have genuine thoughts they write down their reason so they don't forget themselves)
The first 2 are the major points and they had been stated by others, It add's nothing for me to say it again or by rephrasing it slightly so it looks like my own thoughts.
4)So far darthfoley has still not tried to make a case on anybody else despite being the lynchcandiate.
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On November 21 2017 04:54 Palmar wrote:
I mean game is so easy we lynch hf and if he flips town we lynch oats for tmi.
Lol
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On November 21 2017 04:56 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 04:54 Damdred wrote:On November 21 2017 04:50 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2017 04:45 Damdred wrote:On November 21 2017 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Hey ruxxar and conversion I’m interested in what you think about z-boss’ hf case Once palmar respected me, now he ignores me. Well in that case hf disagrees with you on Ruiz, but I kinda agree with you. I think rxx looks town. So you still exist in my world despite being at best a fancy prop. Fancy prop can be useful. Here is a dirty case on stan, His reads are inconsistent early game and some reads ie read on myself and rux just get dropped and never revisited. He also asks questions about myself and has no follow up and really does not seem to care. When the df wagon starts going at a decent pace he hops on without any real explanation, he then misrepresents df filter to try to overjustify his vote on df. He then dissapears obviously. This all sounds like clueless town. But I have nothing to back that up as I haven’t read a single post of his. Mafia people are generally too careful to fuck up that much
I want to believe this, but last game we had random double mafia bus that we found out was a big mistake on someone's end (was supposed to vote a townie, but ended up voting his godfather off)
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On November 21 2017 04:56 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 04:51 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 21 2017 04:48 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 21 2017 04:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 21 2017 03:28 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 20 2017 09:06 darthfoley wrote:On November 20 2017 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
Even though the df wagon looks super fast growing and not much defence against him or whatever I also think it's a good wagon. Even for the points hapa brought up but also because he just throws out free town reads for really random posts like Chezinu's posts etc. Why do you include this baloni qualifier at the beginning? If you like the wagon why are you also pointing out how it's quickly growing with no defense for me? Hedge master supreme Weird-ass post. On November 20 2017 10:36 Holyflare wrote:
And there's the things you pick out. You ask zboson, your town read, why he does such a weird pick mafia out of three thing but then when someone else asks what you think about lynching me/tw etc you don't give a shit about them asking that.
And you dislike kelsier's jarring comment which isn't particularly hard to fathom what he means at all. If he's mafia he's lying that something was jarring or what? What's your thought process behind him making that comment as mafia? Repeating previous arguments against DF for non-understandabe reasons. On November 21 2017 00:26 Holyflare wrote:Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately Weird comment Talking about Damdred. Doesnt like that someone wants to lynch damdred with that line of thought but... just a few posts before: On November 20 2017 18:06 Holyflare wrote:
Fwiw I think damdred could be mafia with an increasing probability So someone accuses a person that you think is mafia with "increasing probability" for some reason, and instead of trying to dissect the other argument to support and push it, he just says "weird comment"? What the fuckshit? Aside from that strange blooper, he does some to push Damdred on a strange read: On November 20 2017 18:07 Holyflare wrote:On November 19 2017 14:18 Damdred wrote:On November 19 2017 12:28 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote:
Chez
Boson
Rux
is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.
Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?
Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.
Just for curiosity, why is Rux on this list? I've strong town vibes from Chezinu unless his mafia is an evil best not spoken of. Rux is... ? Is this a meta read? As to his lynch order, it would be more relevant how he pursues it I'd say. Though I do want to understand why you and KeslierSC are at the top of his list. Seems kind of arbitrary. You know those dumb reads you sonetimes get and just know they are right? Rux is playful and doesnt seem to have much in the way of motives.Plus what I said earlier about us joking around and about the number of scum etc., its dumb and suoer early but his attitude and all make me not want to lynch him today and think of him as town.
Complete polar opposite to how he looks to me. So he is sus of Damdred for being sus of a person that he disagrees "doesn't seem to have much in the way of motives" (i.e. he also doesnt like ruxxar) He then continue to get some crappy "damdred sais ruxx is having fun, which is THE OPPOSITE of how I view him" Holyflare has just started being active after he felt some pressure. He is inconsistent in his reads and follow ups of damdred/ruxx. He has all but tunneled df mindlessly without adding much. Can we please murder him? ##Vote HF This conclusion is pushing it a bit. How was he inconsistent in his reads? Who has he tunneled? He tunneled DF, your lynch target, like crazy, when he was already up in votes. Used repeated arguments. He is inconsistent in his ruxx/Damdred reads. He was piling up on Damd being scum, and then someone says that "Damd", his target, should be lynched because <insert reason>. All he does is say "weird comment". Inconsistent to his supposed scum read. Damd also was against ruxx, whom he also happened to think was scummy looking. It smells man That post was literally on the 3rd page of the game. Why is it inconsistent though, inconsistent is if he calls damdred town, not calling other people who think damdred is scum scum. Can you count the number of posts HF is talking about DF and count the number of posts im talking about DF? nah. I just got this from reading the interaction between pages 13-20 or something like that. Sure you've tunneled him harder, but that's not the sole reason. Can you explain why you think HF town?
Because hes playing really badly pretty much
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I think I like the hf case better
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so now we're at 5/5/3 with HF not voting. he's most likely going to vote on the 5/5 wagon, so do we want to pressure him by consolidating onto him?
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On November 21 2017 04:34 Palmar wrote:
I like this conversion guy. Think I’ll sheep him
nah, i don't believe palmar comes back to the thread an hour before deadline and conversion is the guy he sheeps
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On November 21 2017 05:00 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 04:34 Palmar wrote:
I like this conversion guy. Think I’ll sheep him nah, i don't believe palmar comes back to the thread an hour before deadline and conversion is the guy he sheeps
dw he's already not sheeping me.
no one should sheep me
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On November 21 2017 04:58 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 04:56 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2017 04:54 Damdred wrote:On November 21 2017 04:50 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2017 04:45 Damdred wrote:On November 21 2017 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Hey ruxxar and conversion I’m interested in what you think about z-boss’ hf case Once palmar respected me, now he ignores me. Well in that case hf disagrees with you on Ruiz, but I kinda agree with you. I think rxx looks town. So you still exist in my world despite being at best a fancy prop. Fancy prop can be useful. Here is a dirty case on stan, His reads are inconsistent early game and some reads ie read on myself and rux just get dropped and never revisited. He also asks questions about myself and has no follow up and really does not seem to care. When the df wagon starts going at a decent pace he hops on without any real explanation, he then misrepresents df filter to try to overjustify his vote on df. He then dissapears obviously. This all sounds like clueless town. But I have nothing to back that up as I haven’t read a single post of his. Mafia people are generally too careful to fuck up that much I want to believe this, but last game we had random double mafia bus that we found out was a big mistake on someone's end (was supposed to vote a townie, but ended up voting his godfather off)
Yes and once there was a literal dog in a game.
I'm not changing my way of thinking based on one game.
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On November 21 2017 05:00 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 04:34 Palmar wrote:
I like this conversion guy. Think I’ll sheep him nah, i don't believe palmar comes back to the thread an hour before deadline and conversion is the guy he sheeps
This is a garbage comment btw.
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