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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 13:03 GMT
#281
On November 01 2017 13:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On November 01 2017 13:13 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 12:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
And I won't like I at first thought Ruxxar could of been mafia, but after looking into DF, and Damerian post history, I prefer Ruxxar and DF as likely town.


Can you explain your thought process here? Why did you change your mind on Ruxxar? You make it sound like looking at my filter and Damerion's filter made you think Ruxxar was town, even though I've argued the opposite. Also, why does Damerion's post history help determine Ruxxar's alignment?



It's getting pretty late and I don't want to butcher my reasoning again but I'll get to it early morning.



I personally think Ruxxar's early game posting is a lot better than Damerion's posting for now, only thing that is helping me determining for now.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 13:18 GMT
#283
On November 01 2017 16:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah hes basically saying he is playing bad on purpose
also random rux defence


This guy is totally not reading, I gave my reasoning before this post.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 13:19 GMT
#284
Oats is also too sporadic in the voting thread, jumping onto who ever seems the "easiest" to vote off. Him and Damerian posting are so similar it's disgusting. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them flipped red.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 14:09 GMT
#296
On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
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On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


Says the guy that got triggered lol
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 15:49 GMT
#315
On November 02 2017 00:47 Tictock wrote:
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On November 01 2017 13:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Damerion is now 0% scum, HF is 100% scum


Why does HF not doing anything make Damer Town?


It doesn't lol.... My lean on scum right now is damerion, oats and between DF/Conversion. Conversion seems so hostile since the beginning.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 15:55 GMT
#317
If you look at Damerion's filter, it shows he litterally tried to start a bandwagon on me:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia?user=Damerion

then just disappeared, now I have conversion attacking me trying to make a play between me and him, having you all try and choose between us lol. It's just quite funny.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 16:11 GMT
#322
I'm not answering because it's my entrance, what do you think?.... Like it's a bait question to try and "analyze" my own post, when I don't need to.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 16:40 GMT
#328
On November 02 2017 01:24 Conversion wrote:
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On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


Here, I'll make it easy for you.

How is this quote in any relevant way making people decide between you are me? I'm trying to explain to someone why I'm not that bad of a lynch to push to question happykrogan and ruxxar's point on DF's posts. I'm actually confused as to how you took the context of this post, and are calling it an attempt to make a play between you and me.

Also, what was the point of your inane call out that I got triggered? Is this because you somehow mistakenly are believing that the context of which I made this post is an attempt to make people lynch you over me?


You've actually compared myself and yourself a few times already. You're trying to push me with little to no value saying ##vote shockeyy while Damerion is doing the same thing from the get-go. I think I've provided enough value in my reads, with out having to repeat myself. By me pointing out you got triggered because that shows more "thread sentiment" than I do. I mean, I haven't jumped into cursing or yelling at people to "get the fuck out of my face" or call other posts "LAME" <- DF did that. So you definitely have sentiments towards the thread.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 16:44 GMT
#330
On November 02 2017 01:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On November 01 2017 22:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 01 2017 21:32 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 20:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 01 2017 14:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 13:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:


I mean at least he posted. He could of easily not post and you would of still called it lame. Usually negative connotations like that give off a scummy vibe as well so we can do less of.

what are you saying here?
That darth is calling me scum and we could do less of that?
or that darth calling me scum is scummy and we could do less of that?


Did you read what I even posted? Wtf are you going on about? I wasn't even talking to you....


are you saying df is not scum for posting?? I’m confused as well


I don't think I should have to explain myself, but definitely not... DF was calling Ruxxar's post lame, and I just said its better that he posted rather than not. I mean I don't think it's that hard to understand what I meant if people actually read before replying.

So far DF, Damerian and Oats are on my watch list. Conversion is halfway there.

I mean, df was talking directely to me and calling my post about his post about rux lame so maybe you should read before replying.



That's not what it seems like; I think you need to learn how to read

On November 01 2017 13:07 darthfoley wrote:
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On November 01 2017 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:10 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy[/b

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.


Slow down hotshot.
When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes?


Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team?


You have good reads, I'll give you that.
You just gotta work on being more convincing.


No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier.

And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time.

In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point.


Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments.

Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility.
Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around.

Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced.


I dislike ruxxar's early game filter. Super fluff with no substance. Yea, sure, lots of people are posting fluff kinda. But ruxxar's gives me the vibes of feigning activity to seem interested. It's pretty easy to do early game especially, when people are dicking about.

Besides that, I have no idea why he feels the need to dictate how Damerion votes, the aggressiveness of his vote, and the subsequent commentary

Let me break down the bolded sentence for you
1) "Don't get me wrong" = apologetic, not trying to tread on anyone's toes, like scumversion last game
2) "I like your more confident approach" implies a town lean of some sort, with buddy potential
3) So he likes the confident approach, BUT it's throwing him off because it's so different from last game. So you like it... but it's throwing you off?
4) It's also "a bit too much over the top and feels forced" implying it's scummy.

So to conclude, Ruxxar likes Damerion's aggressive and confident play even though it's throwing him off but it's over the top and feels forced. So why do you like the approach if you are going to call it scummy one line later? This is a whole lot of nothing burger

You are a whole lotta nothing burger.
What are you eving doing with this post.


[b]Explaining why ruxxar's post is lame as hell and non-committal to the utmost. It's rather obvious what I was doing. Take your attitude elsewhere


He obviously thinks Ruxxar's post was lame.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 16:47 GMT
#332
On November 02 2017 01:43 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 01:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 02 2017 01:24 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


Here, I'll make it easy for you.

How is this quote in any relevant way making people decide between you are me? I'm trying to explain to someone why I'm not that bad of a lynch to push to question happykrogan and ruxxar's point on DF's posts. I'm actually confused as to how you took the context of this post, and are calling it an attempt to make a play between you and me.

Also, what was the point of your inane call out that I got triggered? Is this because you somehow mistakenly are believing that the context of which I made this post is an attempt to make people lynch you over me?


You've actually compared myself and yourself a few times already. You're trying to push me with little to no value saying ##vote shockeyy while Damerion is doing the same thing from the get-go. I think I've provided enough value in my reads, with out having to repeat myself. By me pointing out you got triggered because that shows more "thread sentiment" than I do. I mean, I haven't jumped into cursing or yelling at people to "get the fuck out of my face" or call other posts "LAME" <- DF did that. So you definitely have sentiments towards the thread.


You are literally taking my post, which said you are THE thread sentiment, and trying to tell me that I said you are THE ONLY thread sentiment. You don't get to fit my words into your narrative, that's not how it works. So yeah, I agree with you. I do have sentiments towards the thread. Bad post, yet again.


You literally said I am not the thread sentiment, and I literally said you were, then you got triggered again and told me to "get the fuck out of your face"... LOL common dude.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 16:50 GMT
#334
On November 02 2017 01:47 Conversion wrote:
Thanks for furthering my conviction that you're scum, honestly. Stop telling other people to learn how to read when you clearly can't yourself. Your above paragraph was garbage since I called out on the same page why I'm an easy lynch.


You haven't posted anything worthwhile... So... I mean you've only backed DF, helped push Damerion's bandwagon on me, which it's only you two voting for me currently, which makes it look even scummier. Like what else do you want me to do? You're calling my post garbage, but at least I'm present and providing my reads on the current actives, and I think I provided enough value that I don't need to explain myself once again to you.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 16:52 GMT
#335
On November 02 2017 01:49 Conversion wrote:
Are you so daft that you don't understand the differences between "ShoCkeyy is the thread sentiments" versus "ShoCkeyy is the only thread sentiment"

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thats not what I'm referring too.... But you keep pushing it as that. I'm just calling you out on the "thread sentiment" when you clearly are, and have it. So for you to say "I'm not" is a fat lie.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 16:52 GMT
#336
Anyways, brb going to get some work done.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 17:03 GMT
#339
On November 02 2017 01:57 Conversion wrote:
It's like I'm talking to a brick wall..

Your point is that I'm called you the thread sentiment back then when you had two votes and people generally did not like your posts.

Your point is that I called myself not the thread sentiment in that exact point in time, fair. But you completely ignore the fact that I told the thread that DF could have easily pushed me for being triggered and being un-towny, which contradicts your point of me trying to deflect myself from being the thread sentiment.

Then I literally, on the same page as we are on now, gave reasons why mafia could push me as a good lynch.

And now you're calling me a liar without taking any of my recent posts.

Brick wall stupid town, or scum is my read on you.

I'm going to read you as scum because I refuse to believe you're actually that thick.


I bolded it for you so you can easily see why I'm voting for you, by the way. You seem to have trouble reading things.


You literally got mad for trying to defend yourself, I mean, you never know if mafia were trying to push you at the moment and stopped, turned to me instead. But the truth is you've been triggered since trying to defend yourself, and you still seem triggered for it. There's no contradiction other than you yourself.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 17:06 GMT
#343
On November 02 2017 02:03 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 22:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 01 2017 21:32 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 20:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 01 2017 14:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 13:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:


I mean at least he posted. He could of easily not post and you would of still called it lame. Usually negative connotations like that give off a scummy vibe as well so we can do less of.

what are you saying here?
That darth is calling me scum and we could do less of that?
or that darth calling me scum is scummy and we could do less of that?


Did you read what I even posted? Wtf are you going on about? I wasn't even talking to you....


are you saying df is not scum for posting?? I’m confused as well


I don't think I should have to explain myself, but definitely not... DF was calling Ruxxar's post lame, and I just said its better that he posted rather than not. I mean I don't think it's that hard to understand what I meant if people actually read before replying.

So far DF, Damerian and Oats are on my watch list. Conversion is halfway there.


so now apparently you have DF/Damerion/Oats/Conversion as your scum reads. DF because why not, you don't actually do anything to push that, and the other 3 are scum because they voted for you. You don't actually answer as to why a Damerion/Conversion scum team makes no sense considering how I fucked up big time by pulling that "Damerion is suspicious" shit early in the game.



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On November 02 2017 01:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 02 2017 01:47 Conversion wrote:
Thanks for furthering my conviction that you're scum, honestly. Stop telling other people to learn how to read when you clearly can't yourself. Your above paragraph was garbage since I called out on the same page why I'm an easy lynch.


You haven't posted anything worthwhile... So... I mean you've only backed DF, helped push Damerion's bandwagon on me, which it's only you two voting for me currently, which makes it look even scummier. Like what else do you want me to do? You're calling my post garbage, but at least I'm present and providing my reads on the current actives, and I think I provided enough value that I don't need to explain myself once again to you.


Also, it's DF/Oats/Me voting for you, so maybe you should learn how to read vote threads as well


Yea which clearly two of the three are most likely scum. Also is it really DF voting for me? Did you just give yourself away scum? Cause in the vote thread clearly it's Tictock, You, and Oats, DF is still on Oats and I'm assuming if you and DF are talking, he told you he's possibly going to switch to me.

So now, who clearly needs to learn how to read?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 17:07 GMT
#344
You keep fucking up man,

On November 02 2017 02:04 Conversion wrote:
Actually you know what.. Damerion isn't even voting you on the thread. Tictock is.

surprise surprise



You said DF first, now it's Damerion? What are you doing dude lol... You're giving yourself away
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 17:43 GMT
#347
On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
[b]##vote ShoCkeyy[/b

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.



What? Why would I say that? You don't even make sense.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 18:21 GMT
#359
On November 02 2017 03:19 Vivax wrote:
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On November 01 2017 07:50 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:47 Damdred wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:45 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:42 Damdred wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:40 darthfoley wrote:
On more serious terms, let's hope that we don't have AFKers this game.

Krogan's combo brrreak thing felt the most forced of any entrance. Except maybe HF


You know I was abour to tr you for your carefree attitude a d then you say something i really disagree with.

I think krogan had third best entrance, hf is meh but meh


That's fine. You can give me the town read anyways


can you explain why yoi dont loke it more for me?


Idk. Scum often have trouble entering. Especially new scum. It makes sense for scum!Krogan to try and be funny by copying someone rather than having his own entrance.

Also don't like shockey's entrance


Also super scummy post, soft bus teammate for bad entrance but only explain why the townie (krogan) is scummy.

Darth and shockey down already, damn guys and I thought this was going to be challenging.


Lol you haven't even read the thread and already calling me scum Great job Vivax.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 19:12 GMT
#391
On November 02 2017 03:59 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 03:54 darthfoley wrote:
On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:
On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.

I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.

Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.

and conversion is coming off that way to me.

But I got way off track with that post meh


I agree about DF.

About conversion... the jury is still out.
He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing.


Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different.


Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing.
Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia.


The jury is still out but you don't think the guy is mafia? So the jury is in?

lolwat


Yes, the bickering between him and shockey was enough for me.
Either they're both scum or theyre both town.


I read this as "I still haven't made a decision, so let me claim both". What makes the bickering between us aligned some how? lol
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 01 2017 22:23 GMT
#466
I chose to dodge it, so there's my reason. I don't need to deal with you anymore but you insist, I've caught you messing up with your own posts, I've already proven that my reading comprehension isn't off, and you're easily triggered. I rather deal with others at this point.

And you're not being any help. Brb my sun here.
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