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happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 04 2017 14:43 GMT
#17
/in
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 04 2017 18:16 GMT
#20
On October 05 2017 00:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2017 23:43 happykrogan wrote:
/in

Welcome (=


(=
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 10 2017 15:56 GMT
#39
/confirm
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 12 2017 21:10 GMT
#75
Hi
I'm really relieved that I'm just a normal VT in my first game.
Exactly what I hoped for
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 12 2017 21:19 GMT
#79
On October 13 2017 06:14 ruXxar wrote:
Being mafia is very stressful in your first game.
You become uptight, unsure of how to act.
Your opening posts signals to me that you're telling the truth.

I believe you are what you say you are.


Yes.
I'd like to play mafia in a later game, but I'm happy that I can play normally my first time.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 06:01 GMT
#170
On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:

The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.



I like how he mentions that my posts look forced but thinks that it's not mafia indicative yet.
I was nervous as I entered into the game, not because of alignment, but because it's my first time ever so I understand that my posts may look forced. Also it is true that I probably would have written something similar as scum, if I had written anything at all.

I also like oatsmaster so far. It's too early to townread him but I like how he is asking questions and is looking for clues.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 06:15 GMT
#171
On October 13 2017 14:19 xenonn40 wrote:
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On October 13 2017 06:10 happykrogan wrote:
Hi
I'm really relieved that I'm just a normal VT in my first game.
Exactly what I hoped for


Sounds like something a mafia would say.


I don't like how he is picking this post, on which damerion wrote it is something a noob as scum would say and says it's something scum would say and let it look like if it would have been his idea.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 14:03 GMT
#198
Just realized that ruxxar has the biggest filter of everyone, but as far as I can see doesn't really push the game forward. Just posting fluff, town leans and pretty harmless questions.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 14:08 GMT
#199
You might very well be my first scunlean.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 14:10 GMT
#200
I'm parking my vote on rux until I find something more appealing.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 14:15 GMT
#203
Then I hope you make them say something interesting.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 14:19 GMT
#205
On October 13 2017 23:16 ruXxar wrote:
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On October 13 2017 23:08 happykrogan wrote:
You might very well be my first scunlean.


It's a very addicting feeling once you think you've caught a mafia.
A rush of emotions compelling you to lynch me.

Then comes the hard part of convincing others that you are right.
Why can't they just see and understand all the obvious telltale signs that you are seeing?

It's an eternal struggle. Don't give up if you truly believe it.


lol

It's just a scumlean not a scumread. But this post didn't help.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 14:38 GMT
#213
So you're my coach now?
II think the questions you asked conversion about conversion about damerion and holyflare about lonelyclock just have pretty obvious answers and could be just there for the reason that the people see that you ask questions.

flood control appeared and I have to wait...
I would have posted this immedieatly otherwise
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 14:42 GMT
#215
On October 13 2017 23:40 Conversion wrote:
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On October 13 2017 23:38 happykrogan wrote:
So you're my coach now?
II think the questions you asked conversion about conversion about damerion and holyflare about lonelyclock just have pretty obvious answers and could be just there for the reason that the people see that you ask questions.

flood control appeared and I have to wait...
I would have posted this immedieatly otherwise


? No need to be so defensive. I'm just explaining my thoughts, on my opinion, in my brain, as to why you can be scummy

see how that works?

I don't care if you post immediately.

wasn't there a way to request flood control be turned off for new players in mafia?


The "you're my coach now" was a question to ruxxar. I actually liked your post and see it as a tip.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 14:58 GMT
#219
On October 13 2017 23:44 ruXxar wrote:
Let me ask you a question Krogan.

Which is more scummy
To post fluff or
To not post anything at all

Where does mafia thrive?
What kind of environment in the game is optimal for mafia?
A lively game or a silent game.

I don't want an answer. I just want you to think about it.


Yeah... But everybody knows that.
So you're just telling me that a good mafia strategy would be not to post at all if avoidable. But in the long run this would be really obvious, wouldn't it?
Your basically saying everyone who posts a lot has to be town.
With every post you make you let my suspicion grow.
BTW I think it's really funny how you defend yourself with giving advice to me.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 15:03 GMT
#224
On October 13 2017 23:56 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2017 23:38 happykrogan wrote:
So you're my coach now?
II think the questions you asked conversion about conversion about damerion and holyflare about lonelyclock just have pretty obvious answers and could be just there for the reason that the people see that you ask questions.

flood control appeared and I have to wait...
I would have posted this immedieatly otherwise


It's a newbie game, so I'm taking the liberty of giving you some friendly advice.

By all means, do your own thing.

--

See, the thing is that activity by itself is not a sole measure of towniness.
And if you asked me, I wouldn't say that I'm even trying very hard to solve the game right now.

Right now you're undermining the intelligence of the rest of the players in the game by assuming that they don't see that I'm posting fluff.

I'm pretty sure they do know.
And if they don't know, then I can confirm that is exactly what I'm doing.

Your post was a good idea, don't get get me wrong, but in my experience it's a terrible scum indicator.


I never assumed that. Just because it is obvious it doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to say that. Also I mainly meant the questions and not the fluff. But as I said it's just a lean. And it was a pretty weak one.
Can someone else say something about the "terrible scum indicator"? Is that true?
I won't believe the guy I'm just accusing.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 15:06 GMT
#227
Because of Holyflare's posts my lean is now a read BTW
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 15:11 GMT
#229
On October 14 2017 00:07 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2017 00:06 happykrogan wrote:
Because of Holyflare's posts my lean is now a read BTW


Be careful letting other people manipulate you.


I am. I don't let you manipulate me.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 19:10 GMT
#257
On October 14 2017 03:36 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2017 02:03 MrLonelyClock wrote:
On October 13 2017 22:34 ruXxar wrote:
Going to form a Poe list later tonight.

Still waiting...

On October 13 2017 23:56 ruXxar wrote:
On October 13 2017 23:38 happykrogan wrote:
So you're my coach now?
II think the questions you asked conversion about conversion about damerion and holyflare about lonelyclock just have pretty obvious answers and could be just there for the reason that the people see that you ask questions.

flood control appeared and I have to wait...
I would have posted this immedieatly otherwise


It's a newbie game, so I'm taking the liberty of giving you some friendly advice.

By all means, do your own thing.

--

See, the thing is that activity by itself is not a sole measure of towniness.
And if you asked me, I wouldn't say that I'm even trying very hard to solve the game right now.

Right now you're undermining the intelligence of the rest of the players in the game by assuming that they don't see that I'm posting fluff.

I'm pretty sure they do know.
And if they don't know, then I can confirm that is exactly what I'm doing.

Your post was a good idea, don't get get me wrong, but in my experience it's a terrible scum indicator.

This is all according to your logic:
- activity doesn't make you town (therefore you fluff doesn't necessarily make you town)
- not trying to solve the game (anti-town mentality, only useful for mafia)
- agrees that has been posting fluff

None of this is helpful to town in any way. I think rux is probably scum now. The only "useful" thing coming from him is that people are posting about him mostly, but there are better ways to get people involved.


1)
Activity is not a sole indicator of towniness. But more often than not, active people are town, with some exceptions.
Mafia has no need to drive the game from day 1 unless they are feeling pressured.

With the town to mafia ratio being the way it is, town is most likey to lynch one of their own, while mafia can throw out weak sheeps or town reads of the lynch target to get post flip karma.

2)
To me there's two ways to solve the game.

There's the active way, were you make reads, pressure and push people.
This is what people refer to when they say "Solving the game". Aka what oats is doing.

Then there's the passive way, where you make yourself vulnerable and allow people to push you.
This requires you to make yourself a target that people want to engage with, by performing actions that people find dubious.

The end result of both methods is the same, you usually end up in a heated debate with some people where emotions shine through and you're able to get a better read on them.

No matter if I'm pushing people or the one being pushed by people, I'm getting information that I can use to form reads and in the end I will be able to make a better informed decision when choosing my lynch target.


Ok that's interesting. I don't know yet if I believe you but it sounds logical. I unvote for now and observe if your posts get better. I'm not a fan of your list post though.
I actually hope you are town. You made me laugh with your defense.

BTW does anyone else think it's mafia indicative that Holyflare's posts raised my confidence?

Ok wait while writing I changed my opinion. My vote is in a good place. You did'nt get better.
I let the post how it is you can follow my thought process.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 13 2017 19:21 GMT
#258
I try not to focus on ruxxar and look if there are scummier people. Might very well be that you are a careless town like other people say. But I prefer parking my vote on a careless town than to unvote.
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