EPTOn October 16 2017 06:01 darthfoley wrote:
RIP
gg, gl town
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RIP
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sorry for the late post. my clock says 4:58 EDT 
Well played my friend.
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On October 16 2017 06:18 Holyflare wrote: Dem medic dodges? Ha.. ha.. ha... ha | ||
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On October 16 2017 06:29 Holyflare wrote: Anyone that does not vote Damerion needs to be in the newbie section with a coach. This is bull shit mafia all over it. It's like when I was being lynched in Carol of the bells as obvious mafia and my team didn't want to lynch me so they voted off wagon instead of saving themselves. It's stupid and obvious mafia. Mate, if damerion is mafia, he would be an idiot not to kill you after the tirade you are on trying to get him lynched. | ||
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On October 16 2017 07:10 Holyflare wrote: are you stupid? I'm healed almost every single n1 in every game So he's gonna medic dodge instead of killing the one guy thats capable of lynching him? Not happening. | ||
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On October 16 2017 07:14 Holyflare wrote: I also don't know if you know this but I most assuredly claimed I'm not a vt at the start of the game I remember that very clearly. | ||
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On October 16 2017 07:16 Holyflare wrote: ruxxar instead of doing some bull shit plays like you normally do how about you talk to me If Damerion had no time to play and he didn't read the thread when he returned then why was oatsmaster his preferred lynch target when he previously said oatsmaster was TOWN for being aggressive? If he had no time why would he simply just not save himself? That's the biggest unanswered question. He simply said "votes were moving and I had no time" but that doesn't explain for a single second why he didn't try and stay alive. It doesn't make much sense from either alignment. If he's town he should be voting conversion to save himself. If he's mafia he should be voting conversion to at least get a sliver of town cred for voting mafia. In the end I found his explanation very unsatisfactory, but he's also a new player who might be evaluating the game differently. What I do know, is that survival instinct is very high on the list for mafia. You are a huge threat do damerion, and I am very certain that he can not have missed that he was a hairs breadth away from being lynched by you. If not him, then his partners must've observed it. There was also no sign that you werent going for a damerion lynch today. No sane mafia person with 24 hours to evaluate, would not kill you even at the chance of a medic save. I do feel as if there's a shell surrounding damerion. A facade if you will, filtering away all emotion. He is as you say "robotic" and very unengaged in the natural game flow. It makes him hard to read, but I don't know if that necessarily makes him mafia. Conversion as you saw on the other hand was very engaged in the game and was having a flowing conversation with people. So I'm not sure how convinced I am of it being a mafia indicator for damerion. Especially taking into account how I saw him play last game. We still have 48 hours to figure this out, so let's keep at it. | ||
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On October 16 2017 07:17 Holyflare wrote: Why does he think Onegu is mafia but didn't vote to save his partner conversion? Why doesn't that play into his read in the slightest? His entire read on Onegu is based on CONVERSION'S filter instead of Onegu's filter. If Damerion is town why on earth would he ever think that someone that scum read him and DIDN'T vote him to save his partner would be mafia? That's entirely the opposite conclusion anyone in that position should think. This is a very good point and I agree. From damerions point of view, where he should be considering himself town, there's absolutely no reason why he should expect onegu not to vote for him if conversion and onegu are mafia partners. | ||
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On October 16 2017 07:42 Grackaroni wrote: Ok look at when Damerion town reads Oats. It is at the start of the game when he is asked by Mr Lonelyclock what he though of Oats, and the read is based off of series of posts where he questions Ruxxar, which were posts that I also liked from Oats. He gave this read before I pointed out things about Oats' tone. Later on he does seem to walk back his Oats read a bit saying that he found it interesting that Oats ignored my accusation. I think it's way more likely that his read changed without him updating it as town and believed the lynch to be TvT than that he panicked and voted off wagon because he was too afraid to bus when one of the two of them was very likely to die anyway. Plus his posts have been way townier in this game than the other one imo. His thought process seems much more in depth whereas the other one I would have scum read him if I wasn't scum. That game it looked like he just chose a scum read and then went through the motions of asking people to kill him every so often rather than actually making an attempt to solve the game. What in the... ##vote grackaroni. | ||
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On October 16 2017 07:46 Damerion wrote: But with how Conversion was flopping around, what happens if Onegu saves him in that situation? Once Conversion flips (after I flip town), he is instantly connected with Conversion and has a much greater chance to flip afterwards. That's not how it works. People vote for town all the time and get away with it. | ||
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On October 16 2017 07:46 Damerion wrote: But with how Conversion was flopping around, what happens if Onegu saves him in that situation? Once Conversion flips (after I flip town), he is instantly connected with Conversion and has a much greater chance to flip afterwards. You see, if onegu voted for you and you flipped town, and then later conversion flips as mafia, I wouldn't be looking at onegu. I would be looking at the guy(Holyflare) that's screaming at the top of his lungs that we should be lynching you and not conversion. | ||
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On October 16 2017 07:53 Holyflare wrote: I may have made a huge mistake where I didn't realise Conversion was voting Damerion. Mistake how? | ||
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On October 16 2017 22:41 Fecalfeast wrote: Holyflare is giving me the scum vibes for what that's worth He gave me scum vibes day 1 in how he was deflecting away from conversion. Day 2 he has been towny as hell. His reasoning is on point, and he's constantly re-evaluating things. It's not often I say this, but I really like the direction he's going in right now. | ||
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On October 16 2017 20:17 happykrogan wrote: I have to admit I'm very unsure who to vote right now. Maybe Damdred. His only real read on his whole filter is that damerion is town. And I don't think he gave good reasons for that. Also he asked for it so why not. I can still change my vote. BTW I really think it's annoying how Holyflare pushes a case calling everyone stupid who doesn't follow him. I don't understand why you are voting for damdred. Damdred hammered conversion(was one of the people to make conversion a majority lynch). Do you think he voted for his own mafia buddy? | ||
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If damdred is mafia he: 1) Voted for his own partner who was not obviously getting lynched 2) Didn't try to save conversion by voting for damerion. | ||
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On October 17 2017 02:02 happykrogan wrote: Well could be a bus, but as I mentioned above I was not sure. Actually the thread convinced that it's not very likely. I just wanted to put my vote on someone becuase it can potentially make people play. I just had not the time today to really look into filters. I will try to do that in a few hours. Can you name the 3 people you like the least in the game right now and why? | ||
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