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On October 19 2017 06:20 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2017 07:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok look at when Damerion town reads Oats. It is at the start of the game when he is asked by Mr Lonelyclock what he though of Oats, and the read is based off of series of posts where he questions Ruxxar, which were posts that I also liked from Oats. He gave this read before I pointed out things about Oats' tone. Later on he does seem to walk back his Oats read a bit saying that he found it interesting that Oats ignored my accusation.
I think it's way more likely that his read changed without him updating it as town and believed the lynch to be TvT than that he panicked and voted off wagon because he was too afraid to bus when one of the two of them was very likely to die anyway.
Plus his posts have been way townier in this game than the other one imo. His thought process seems much more in depth whereas the other one I would have scum read him if I wasn't scum. That game it looked like he just chose a scum read and then went through the motions of asking people to kill him every so often rather than actually making an attempt to solve the game. Can you lay out where damerion's thought process is in depth and compare it to the last game where he was town? And give us a conclusion? Cause right now, you are sitting on the fence on whether damerion is town.
I think his post about the way I talked to you after scum reading you and his post about Onegu both showed that he was spending more time thinking about alignments than from what I saw in the last game.
And I've been more on the town side of the fence on Damerion for a while now - at least before the day 1 lynch.
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Onegu/Xennon/Ruxxar/HF is my lynch group. I'll figure out which one I want in a little bit.
Right now I'm playing sc2 and apparently I'm autistic because I beat some dude in a starcraft game. I'm learning so much about myself today.
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I can really feel the emotion.
I think you need another float.
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What happened to you killing me??
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OK I read a bunch of filters and I'm going with a Ruxxar lynch. He thought Damerion's posts were townie and had a weak reason to reconsider voting for Damerion at the end of the day, which was a push being made by his scum read HF.
On October 14 2017 03:07 ruXxar wrote:Let me entertain you with some reads. Xenon+ Show Spoiler +On October 13 2017 14:19 xenonn40 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 06:10 happykrogan wrote:Hi I'm really relieved that I'm just a normal VT in my first game. Exactly what I hoped for  Sounds like something a mafia would say. This is a strong opening statement from a newbie. Expecting more timidness from a first timer scum. On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:
Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again.
Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission.
Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles.
My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point.
The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.
I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present. Strong and clear reads. Consistent meta from last game. On October 13 2017 06:47 Damerion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 06:43 ruXxar wrote:On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:
Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again.
Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission.
Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles.
My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point.
The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.
I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present. You got 2 out of 3 right. Not bad! Krogans post might look forced, but it's not indicative of mafia just yet. I agree it is not quite mafia indicative as of yet, however it is worth watching how he develops as the game goes on. If he continues to be so forced it will be worth connecting, if he does not well it was just a newer person being a bit difficult. And I really wish that Damdred would post more than just a random list, I miss the days when I would look forward to reading his posts and mighty cases. Now he is just a sheep I must shepherd across the finish line who sometimes pouts and hides his head nobody listens to him. Earnest and genuine request. Has a carefree and playful touch to it. Is being his typical hard headed self. Straight to the point. No sugar coating, even abrasive to some.
Is lacking in reading comprehension,but puts himself way out there.
Unlikely to come from mafia.
On October 13 2017 10:38 MrLonelyClock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:
Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again.
Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission.
Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles.
My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point.
The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.
I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present. First half is garbage. Let people play how they want. Its early in the game so the reads I would say are kinda forced but that can be expected. However having 3 reads this early just seems like you want to throw out the "HEY IM POSTING A LOT, LOOK AT THIS TOWNIE". Also your posts kinda annoy me. It's as if I'm reading a novel and not actually having a conversation. Feels like talking (or typing) to a wall of sorts. Strong accusations straight out of the gate. Honest and genuine tone. Does not filter or sugar coat his opinion. Can clearly see through to the intentions behind his post with no apparent malicious agenda. Not expected from newbie mafia. Speaks his mind freely.
Conversation flows naturally.
Not guarded in speech and not afraid to step on peoples toes Was initially green. Moved down after this post. On October 14 2017 00:06 happykrogan wrote:
Because of Holyflare's posts my lean is now a read BTW Was having a lean on me, but afraid to commit without the backing/validation of another player Holyflare Grackaroni Fecalfeast Onegu Damdred coolTLname darthfoley
On October 15 2017 02:26 ruXxar wrote:
Lynching damerion is the absolutely dumbest thing we can do right now.
On October 15 2017 03:39 ruXxar wrote:After re-reading damerions posts, I don't feel a strong need to defend him anymore. His response to getting asked for scum reads is losing him a lot of town points. Show nested quote +On October 15 2017 00:58 Damerion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:53 darthfoley wrote:
Do you plan on ever calling someone scum, or are you just gonna keep saying stuff is "interesting?" While I appreciate your thoughts on that matter if you would turn your attention to what I actually wrote and give a word or two om that it would be appreciated.
If anyone bussed this game I guarantee that it was Ruxxar who wrote out a post to say that he has changed his read on Conversion after FF/DF/Mr. Lonelyclock pushed him and that he is open to considering lynching him. The bus was never going to be Damdred, who town read both Damerion/Conversion, didn't make any effort to shennany, and then voted off Conversion without any setup for his vote. To me this looks like a bus post.
On October 15 2017 02:40 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2017 02:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh yeah darthfoley seems more towny than conversion, contrary to what HF thinks I agree with this sentiment. Darthfoley is either clearly town or/and more experienced than conversion. Darth foley came out of that interaction looking way better than conversion. I felt conversion was squirming around clamoring to any defense he could muster up. I think you need to calm down conversion and refocus your effort. I feel like right now your reads are all over the place and you're having trouble staying above water. Take a short breather and clear your mind. I was on the edge of changing my vote to conversion seeing as how that went down, but I'm holding back a bit after you bounced back a bit with the list post. -- The secondary red flag is xenon. His post explaining his vote was terrible. I'm awaiting his explanation before pursuing further action.
Also in that post he makes an attempt to push Xennon, who he was also town reading earlier, but he doesn't defend the scum read when HF questions him on it.
On October 15 2017 02:45 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2017 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
NOW you think xenonn is looking bad??????????
he looks so fucking new now Yes he's lynchbait, but lets give him a chance to explain his vote shall we?
And he questions FF about an Oats lynch when he completely shut down my Oats tone push earlier in the day,
On October 15 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2017 02:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
scumish
oats - seems mafia, tone read i guess
Can you expound on this? I want to know what you're refering to.
Plus from Conversion's filter Ruxxar seems like the most likely partner to me. So that's my vote.
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On October 21 2017 05:37 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2017 05:27 Grackaroni wrote:OK I read a bunch of filters and I'm going with a Ruxxar lynch. He thought Damerion's posts were townie and had a weak reason to reconsider voting for Damerion at the end of the day, which was a push being made by his scum read HF. On October 14 2017 03:07 ruXxar wrote:Let me entertain you with some reads. Xenon+ Show Spoiler +On October 13 2017 14:19 xenonn40 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 06:10 happykrogan wrote:Hi I'm really relieved that I'm just a normal VT in my first game. Exactly what I hoped for Sounds like something a mafia would say. This is a strong opening statement from a newbie. Expecting more timidness from a first timer scum. On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:
Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again.
Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission.
Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles.
My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point.
The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.
I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present. Strong and clear reads. Consistent meta from last game. On October 13 2017 06:47 Damerion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 06:43 ruXxar wrote:On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:
Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again.
Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission.
Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles.
My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point.
The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.
I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present. You got 2 out of 3 right. Not bad! Krogans post might look forced, but it's not indicative of mafia just yet. I agree it is not quite mafia indicative as of yet, however it is worth watching how he develops as the game goes on. If he continues to be so forced it will be worth connecting, if he does not well it was just a newer person being a bit difficult. And I really wish that Damdred would post more than just a random list, I miss the days when I would look forward to reading his posts and mighty cases. Now he is just a sheep I must shepherd across the finish line who sometimes pouts and hides his head nobody listens to him. Earnest and genuine request. Has a carefree and playful touch to it. Is being his typical hard headed self. Straight to the point. No sugar coating, even abrasive to some.
Is lacking in reading comprehension,but puts himself way out there.
Unlikely to come from mafia.
On October 13 2017 10:38 MrLonelyClock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:
Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again.
Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission.
Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles.
My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point.
The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.
I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present. First half is garbage. Let people play how they want. Its early in the game so the reads I would say are kinda forced but that can be expected. However having 3 reads this early just seems like you want to throw out the "HEY IM POSTING A LOT, LOOK AT THIS TOWNIE". Also your posts kinda annoy me. It's as if I'm reading a novel and not actually having a conversation. Feels like talking (or typing) to a wall of sorts. Strong accusations straight out of the gate. Honest and genuine tone. Does not filter or sugar coat his opinion. Can clearly see through to the intentions behind his post with no apparent malicious agenda. Not expected from newbie mafia. Speaks his mind freely.
Conversation flows naturally.
Not guarded in speech and not afraid to step on peoples toes Was initially green. Moved down after this post. On October 14 2017 00:06 happykrogan wrote:
Because of Holyflare's posts my lean is now a read BTW Was having a lean on me, but afraid to commit without the backing/validation of another player Holyflare Grackaroni Fecalfeast Onegu Damdred coolTLname darthfoley On October 15 2017 02:26 ruXxar wrote:
Lynching damerion is the absolutely dumbest thing we can do right now. On October 15 2017 03:39 ruXxar wrote:After re-reading damerions posts, I don't feel a strong need to defend him anymore. His response to getting asked for scum reads is losing him a lot of town points. On October 15 2017 00:58 Damerion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:53 darthfoley wrote:
Do you plan on ever calling someone scum, or are you just gonna keep saying stuff is "interesting?" While I appreciate your thoughts on that matter if you would turn your attention to what I actually wrote and give a word or two om that it would be appreciated. If anyone bussed this game I guarantee that it was Ruxxar who wrote out a post to say that he has changed his read on Conversion after FF/DF/Mr. Lonelyclock pushed him and that he is open to considering lynching him. The bus was never going to be Damdred, who town read both Damerion/Conversion, didn't make any effort to shennany, and then voted off Conversion without any setup for his vote. To me this looks like a bus post. On October 15 2017 02:40 ruXxar wrote:On October 15 2017 02:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
oh yeah darthfoley seems more towny than conversion, contrary to what HF thinks I agree with this sentiment. Darthfoley is either clearly town or/and more experienced than conversion. Darth foley came out of that interaction looking way better than conversion. I felt conversion was squirming around clamoring to any defense he could muster up. I think you need to calm down conversion and refocus your effort. I feel like right now your reads are all over the place and you're having trouble staying above water. Take a short breather and clear your mind. I was on the edge of changing my vote to conversion seeing as how that went down, but I'm holding back a bit after you bounced back a bit with the list post. -- The secondary red flag is xenon. His post explaining his vote was terrible. I'm awaiting his explanation before pursuing further action. Also in that post he makes an attempt to push Xennon, who he was also town reading earlier, but he doesn't defend the scum read when HF questions him on it. On October 15 2017 02:45 ruXxar wrote:On October 15 2017 02:42 Holyflare wrote:
NOW you think xenonn is looking bad??????????
he looks so fucking new now Yes he's lynchbait, but lets give him a chance to explain his vote shall we? And he questions FF about an Oats lynch when he completely shut down my Oats tone push earlier in the day, On October 15 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote:On October 15 2017 02:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
scumish
oats - seems mafia, tone read i guess
Can you expound on this? I want to know what you're refering to. Plus from Conversion's filter Ruxxar seems like the most likely partner to me. So that's my vote. Yes, I hard bussed and hammered my mafia partner day 1 /facepalm All of what you wrote makes me look even more town.
You didn't hard bus though you pushed Conversion after he was taking a lot of pressure, which is pretty standard for mafia to jump on a bandwagon around the 3rd or 4th vote.
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Oh my goodness how could it ever have been Onegu after Onegu threw away his vote onto Ruxxar.
Grackaroni was so foolish for ever including him in his POE. I bow to the greatness of Holyflare.
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Eh you can complain about inactivity but the scummer will probably end up being Ruxxar who has been active enough to judge.
You buried Damerion for not voting to save himself, which wasn't scum indicative, and for writing a case on scum Onegu.
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Hey what happened to our veteran Holyflare.
Care to make a new claim?
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If you aren't blue why did you make a point of claiming not VT?
I don't think HF does this as VT.
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Just knowing that mafia is making the right kills this game makes me think that mafia isn't Xenon.
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On October 22 2017 02:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2017 00:52 Damdred wrote:
If what I did anniyed you that much, honestly my phone died it was unfortunate but ibe always held onto my vote late.
I understand the frustration especially since I have been so trolly this game and not playing half the time. And lrobabky Oats or someone will shit on me for the post. Thats fine.
I feel like its unfair to the people actually trying to play the game if you dont actually give any weight to their opinion and time and instead, act like its only about you and getting your reads right. but postgame probably better. Hey grack, what do you think about onegu trying to push the lynch on rux at the end of day 1? Why did onegu try to bus rux?
I could see Onegu bussing as mafia. His posts at the end of the day with Ruxxar seemed like a scum conversation to me. Especially the post Onegu made about Ruxxar trying to set him up by telling him to vote Damerion.
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I said Onegu was a good pick for mafia after reading Damerion's post. Then HF started making arguments against scum Onegu and I read other things and thought Fecalfeast was a better lynch.
I also don't think I've been in the background. I've attempted to start 3 different pushes this game on Oats/FF/Ruxxar and I always try to back up my lynch with my own thought process. I haven't seen much reasoning for why I'm one of the consensus thread picks to be mafia beyond likely people seeing me win the last game as solo mafia and associating that with me being more likely to be the solo mafia in this game.
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I don't think there was much that needed to be said about FF he never fought against his own lynch or put any effort into scum hunting during that day.
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So I said let's kill Fecalfeast and then people killed Fecalfeast but I'm scummy because I didn't continue to tell people to kill Fecalfeast when people were already killing Fecalfeast.
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Not so easy to say now is it.
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If I get lynched my final advice is that Holyflare should be an auto lynch if he makes it to LYLO.
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I was the only other vote on Ruxxar but that's not the point. If I wanted to save Conversion then why wouldn't I just vote Damerion instead. I said I thought Conversion was townie and I didn't say anything about Damerion.
You went through all of these lengths earlier to make Onegu's vote on Ruxxar seem townie and now you're using those same reasons to kill me just because the opportunity is there.
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