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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 15 2017 16:37 GMT
#741
You don't have to try lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 15 2017 16:37 GMT
#742
It's cute
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 15 2017 17:09 GMT
#743
@Damerion, why did you not vote for conversion to save yourself?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 15 2017 17:34 GMT
#744
You think that's a good question that he's never seen before or what?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 15 2017 17:41 GMT
#745
Yep.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 15 2017 17:45 GMT
#746
Hey onegu, can you explain why the heck you wasted your vote on rux when your other scumread damerion actually had a chance of being lynched?
No gg, No skill.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
October 15 2017 18:04 GMT
#747
On October 16 2017 02:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey onegu, can you explain why the heck you wasted your vote on rux when your other scumread damerion actually had a chance of being lynched?


Can you explain why me catching a scum was "wasting time and shitting up the thread," please?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 15 2017 19:22 GMT
#748
On October 16 2017 03:04 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2017 02:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey onegu, can you explain why the heck you wasted your vote on rux when your other scumread damerion actually had a chance of being lynched?


Can you explain why me catching a scum was "wasting time and shitting up the thread," please?

Lol it totally didn't look like "catching scum" but I guess the results don't lie
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 15 2017 19:50 GMT
#749
Zzzzz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 15 2017 19:50 GMT
#750
Plz kill Damerion
MrLonelyClock
Profile Joined June 2017
87 Posts
October 15 2017 20:24 GMT
#751
Man you have has a hard on for Damerion from the get go lol. You still never mentioned your update on conversion being buddied (or I missed it). Can you say why you thought that?
Damerion
Profile Joined September 2017
149 Posts
October 15 2017 20:29 GMT
#752
Hello,

Sorry that I have been away, as I said before these short phases (to me at least) somewhat mess with me. Knowingly I am about to eat a bullet from the Vigilante. I will take the last 20 minutes or so and make a final post that I feel will be adequate to the task at hand.

As it may and if I do not make it and squeeze in was a pleasure playing with you all once again.

Now will get to work in the final minutes.
Damerion
Profile Joined September 2017
149 Posts
October 15 2017 20:34 GMT
#753
On October 16 2017 02:09 ruXxar wrote:
@Damerion, why did you not vote for conversion to save yourself?


First I will tackle this question.

Grackaronis' response to my case on his interactions with Oatsmaster was within the realm of possibilities. He could of very possibly been an attempt to ascertain a better read on the people in these situations.

At the time also Conversion was a null read, I had very little interactions with him and I had yet not read his filter. That is the first thing I have read at this juncture which I will talk about in a few moments.

My reasoning for voting Oatmaster was simple, we were in a state of moving votes around. Oatsmaster has been slightly different this game in what I view in the way he approaches it. He has been pressurey here but has been a tad more aggressive in the style at which he goes at people, has seemingly ignored several things people has asked him and did not seem to react to Grackaroni case on him.

It troubled me at the time and was enough to vote him at the time, I understood that I could of been voted off but I had precocious few moments before I had to go back to work related issues.

As such I made possibly a poor decision.

In either case back to what I think are the final two scum of the game in my next few posts.
Damerion
Profile Joined September 2017
149 Posts
October 15 2017 20:51 GMT
#754
Initially my thought was that Conversion should have some sliver in his filter of who his scum partners are.

My findings are incomplete sadly, I believe I was able to find the identity of one of his partners. The second however is harder to ascertain.

Onegu is the second scum that is on a team with Conversion.

First Onegus first somewhat read on Conversion

Conversion giveing a town read and then like not saying why and its the same post other people said about Clock and the defense of Damer in the same post. dont like dont like...


He really dislikes how Conversion is going about the game and dislikes what seems to be several posts that left this impression on him. And yet when it comes time for Onegu to either change his vote/pressured on his opinion on Conversion he says this.

On October 15 2017 05:52 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 05:35 ruXxar wrote:
On October 15 2017 04:54 Onegu wrote:
On openings. There are 2 I didnt like.

Ruxxar and Damerion. Ruxxar seemed way to happy. Like way to happy, seemed off to me.

And Damerion was like lets not talk about roles but here is what you should do. Also to wordy. Seemed like he wrote it proof read it thought about it and posted it. Not really a way town thinks./ plays.

Like damdred feeling off about ruxxar says people who make him laugh but the fact he said something first I like.

Boom Oats comes in and slams Rux. I like oats.

HF says the same about Damer I like HF

Damdreds hard defend of Damer I find odd. Like he agrees he is playing different from the previous game but not enough different feels really off now with this defense.

Boom MrLonelyClock hits on Damerion. I like this newbie. He is somewhere inbetween the blue and yellow also!

Ugg but then he just is ok on Damer after one small post. TT why you do this. You null now.

Then votes with oats on Ruxx. Which I do like at this point.

I also like happykrogen at the moment. his response to damer is nice.

Yeah I like HF at the moment. Normally I just ignore him at this point. but meh.

Conversion giveing a town read and then like not saying why and its the same post other people said about Clock and the defense of Damer in the same post. dont like dont like...

Ruxxar like conversion. Makes me like conversion even less...

Ruxxar shits on me. Like Ruxxar even less.

Krogan voteing Rux. I like I like.

My god I like Rux less and less as I read. Like coaching the newbies to look helpful. Bleh I just dont like him at all.

Krogran picks up on it. My HERO!!!

Ruxxar going to try to lynch me I can feel it.

FF giveing Ruxxar a out is meh really.

I really feel weird about people 13 pages in only having town reads. Like not even scum leans its null or town thats it.

Ruxxar with the coaching again. Like I guess its a defense of him self but the way he does it in like a coaching way. Activity is town blah blah blah just rubs me the wrong way.

Grack is forgettable... bleh

HF is back to ignore... The whole krogan/ruxxar thing and HF response to it is making my response ignore HF.

DF I am ok with for now. His post about agreeing with HF on Krogan is bleh. I mean who isnt town reading Krogan right now? And that is a reason to give HF a pass? And I dont really like his Ruxxar town read. But his post isnt bringing any more red flags other than those.

But then the next post is within HF scum range... Lol ok... Still ok with DF.

Oats TMI post is meh. Still like his pushes though....

The whole thing on pocketing people is stupid and I am dumber for reading it.

HUH xenon thinks rux is town so he votes Oats? That cant be a scum play right> Like it just cant. I mean right? Huh?

Oats points out my thought on xenonn but I think 60% lynch bait 40% scum because really?


So I am running out of time so I am going to post this. I am still reading but I am also about to Top 8 a large MTGO tourny. Sooooo.






So you're going to leave without giving an opinion on the two current wagons.
How helpful you are.




Read idiot I dont like damerion. Conversion I have no real thought on. You are scum though.


When he has literally said he does not like Conversion in the post before this was quoted.

He next goes about and tries to get people off of Conversion by trying to facilitate a Chinese fire drill onto RuxXar, who he has solely focused on at this point. He pushes really hard and all he needs at this point is one more person to come off of Conversion and I am lynched instead of Conversion.

This on its own is thin, and is easily explained away with how tunneled he is on RuxXar at this point in time.

However if you look at Conversion filter you find somewhat interesting read changes towards Onegu.

On October 15 2017 01:59 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 01:56 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Can you provide also why you think FF is your biggest scum read?

I'm assuming Onegu for 1 post than AFK/policy.


FF is not my biggest scum read, Onegu is

I had him and DF at a null. DF actually tried to push me as scum, FF faded into oblivion

ergo, he is no longer a null read and he is now scummy


He does walk this read back with saying Onegu is not his actual top scum read it is FF the next post for clarity.

And by the time he discusses his top lynches this is where he is at,

On October 15 2017 02:08 Conversion wrote:
Damerion is pretty lackluster this game. no idea why. Grack-oats interaction wasn't as interesting as he insinuated it to be.

Damdred is doing nothing per usual even though he thinks he is lynch-invincible. I don't like him.

I'm not lynching Onegu since he came like 1 hr before lynch and shennani'd scum in the first game I played coming back

FF's posts are shit and he does nothing, but doesn't mean much since he was like that the game I lynched him. I'd lynch Xen over him, if it came to it.

ruxxar seemed good, but now he's AFK. need you to get off HF and figure out scum with me instead of parking on HF.

I'm never gonna townread HF, but he looks better than every single one of you except DF maybe

FF/Xen for lynch today. Otherwise Damerion.

Maybe spite lynch damdred for supposed lynch invincibility claim he made..


He has put Onegu into the category of not touching because of some ambiguous thing he did in the past game that should not matter in this situation.

To me it seems like Conversion is walking back what should be a scum read on Onegu in case Onegu gets flipped and is scum so that there is some distance between them, while on the other hand he has backed up enough where he is not painted into a corner if Onegu begins trying and he will not have to go after his partner.

Onegu does his part in the play as well, trying to help push votes off Conversion so that I am lynched or they get enough people to switch to RuxXar and lynch him instead.

I do not think that this is slam dunk but I think there is a good connection between the pair if you compare their filters and how they approached one another or did not approach the other. Also with how Onegu pushed for him to be saved at deadline.
Damerion
Profile Joined September 2017
149 Posts
October 15 2017 20:56 GMT
#755
As for the second mafia it is a bit harder to guage and I do not have a solid answer at this point. Unless we have both mafia on me.

Which is my one problem with the Onegu scum read, why would he just not vote for me after showing such disdain for me. It is a problem I am trying to work out, perhaps if Conversion flips it makes him look even worse? I do not think that is that valid of a point however.

I think a lot of people look quite towny this game and the possibility of cooltlname being mafia skyrockets, and perhaps I was correct with my vote on Oatsmaster. I am being a bit wobbly with my thoughts at this time as I am rushing.

Apologies for being distracted this game.

If I am shot I understand and no hard feelings.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
October 15 2017 20:59 GMT
#756
interested to see the night actions and stuff like that
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 15 2017 20:59 GMT
#757
I will never in a million years believe onegu is scum if you're town. Never. He said he scum read you and then voted not you or conversion as far as I remember. That would be extremely stupid as mafia if you were town.

I also don't buy your oats read.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 15 2017 21:00 GMT
#758
Day 2

"20 grand maan, and of course I still get to keep the rug, its all easy money you know.."




You can't do that man. These guys, you know, they're like me, they're pacifists. Smokey was a conscientious objector, and you know he's got emotional problems man! He's fragile, very fragile!


darthfoley (Vanilla Town) was found dead!


This is Day 2. You have until Tuesday, Oct 17 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in to decide on a lynch. Voting must be made in the dedicated voting thread found here to be valid.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 15 2017 21:00 GMT
#759
On October 15 2017 05:55 Damerion wrote:
Here I am, I lost track of time and these day phases are very short.

I see conversion and myself are up for lynch. I do not know if I believe that conversion is scum at this point in time.

In fact with how apathetic the thread is I am decently certain it is going to be town v town.


You didn't even read up to this point it looks like.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
October 15 2017 21:00 GMT
#760
Before I die, there's a decent chance that HF is scum. Do not forget this post young noobs.

Before I die, there's a decent chance that HF is scum. Do not forget this post young noobs.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
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