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I dont really understand what rels is doing.
Also i am not sure where vivax gets i am apologizing something? Well hes prolly mafia so i dont really care. New dude is just lost in translation.
Also also oats, its not that hf thought i have tmi. Its about him thinking i have tmi when there is even nothing that suggests that, in fact if i had tmi where he said so i would be very happy to just let you guys dig your own grave and discuss nonsense and somehow hf comes to a conclusion that if i have tmi i for some reason give it away and do pro-town things with my tmi instead, and i find that very hard to believe someone would think that as town.
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Also vivax again said something makes a person mafia but then again maybe it doesnt. 
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In one sentence... haha^^
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Well it doesnt. Also i have never in my life given info that only mafia knows to town about mafia roles in any game.
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Like... he was saying i have tmi BECAUSE i am doing a pro town thing. In the first place that doesnt even make any sense rofl.
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I am sorry i dont know how to explain it better, i just think its very surface level thinking and not thought through at all and i am definitely sceptic about HF doing that kind of "analysis" as town.
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On September 30 2017 09:04 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2017 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like... he was saying i have tmi BECAUSE i am doing a pro town thing. In the first place that doesnt even make any sense rofl. no, he was saying tmi because you said something about the mafia roles that wasnt in the OP
But thats not true. I didnt.
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Breshke has a high chance of being mafia too. He certainly doesnt feel like auper pumped to play again as he said after game. Also people are calling afk people out but noone Breshke.
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Or Koshi, for that breshke read. But not both.
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There are many reasons to lynch vivax. Dude just wrote actual cases on a couple of people and decided to vote for Rels (who is not a peraon he wrote a case on).
For the record grack is not mafia so there is that. Youre misreading / misunderatstanding a lot of things.
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I dont care. Ita different but it is impossible to explain to you. I just care i am just gonna vote for mafia since i am sleepy.
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Well everything Vivax says has zero thought put in it so i wouldnt say he is "putting effort" into anything.
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Here is what Vivax has done:
- Said lynch Koshi or Holyflare because they claimed afk but let's hope at least one of them is town, twice. This is the most lazy approach to the game when you are "actually playing" (aka not just afk) that one can have. Like Holyflare even asked Vivax to make him motivated and he just had some shit nonsense conversation with HF right after that and just left it be.
- Claims i am mafia because again, "has not posted enough" -- another lazy reason (which is also super ironical because his other mafia read Holyflare just made a total garbage case on me and Vivax' post comes right after that), again, zero thought put into what ACTUALLY could / couldn't make sense here. Another point on this is Vivax claims he thinks i am mafia because i am "apolegtic" which is something i never did. For the past two years i have always claimed when i can't play for a bit bigger amount of time, every single time something liek that happens. Not only is Vivax' narrative for his scumread on me completely made up, even if he could genuinely make that mistake that doesn't make any sense because he should know better.
- Here is another funny "read" Vivax has:
scummish: Chez, rayn, Rels
Chez for saying wow in this entire game without even attempting to have fun one way or the other.
This is funny because we also have this guy in the game (which lasts until D1 end):
On September 29 2017 08:02 Breshke wrote:
Hello everyone
I'm reallly excited to play again, i winder how long that will last
On September 29 2017 08:29 Breshke wrote:
Wow
Does this ring any bells? There is a dude who claims he is super excited to play the game, is perfectly aware of the game start because of the wow post and then nothing... Vivax calls out EVERY SINGLE OTHER FUCKING LURKER IN THE GAME EXCEPT FOR BRESHKE, for what reason? For all the lurkers there is the MOST reason to call out Breshke since he literally claimed he is excited to play mafia again -> afk for D1. So which is it, lazy or mafia? Definitely not logical or trying to solve the game for Vivax.
- Other scum reads of his, let's look at the reasoning:
Rayn for buying into Oats point about my post and posting about his schedule for no reason. But it's my weakest read of the bunch and there's a bunch of omgus coming along with it, not going to lie.
- I never "bought any Oats' point", so that's is a lie, or lazy reading once again
- I always post about my schedule when i feel like it's needed so that literally means nothing towards my alignment
Rels for talking about plan, asking for damerions games, saying that Koshi's entry was in line with town meta. Basically a bunch of semi-helpful but unproductive stuff.
- Everyone talked about the plan, so some random person talking about it is not scummy especially when you don't even mention WHY Rels talking about it makes him scummy
- Koshi's entry line doesn't mean anything so there is that
- There is nothing scummy in asking about the new guy's past games
Like literally Vivax just takes some stuff and calls it scummy for no reason. He even fucking says stuff Rels posted about was "semi-helpful"?!?!? Like what...
- Then he makes a big case on Grackaroni, which also has something that can actually be called "reasoning" (literally the only thing Vivax has done this game -- all of his other posts are just (i am sorry) garbage that is either misrep, lazy, or wrong. What's the follow up:
"Let's kill an afk guy -- i gtg cya tomorrow"
Why is this scummy? It's scummy because vigilante is supposed to shoot the afk guys and if you think afk guys are mafia you try to fordce them to play by threatening them by getting shot if they don't. You don't lynch an afk guy if you have an actual scumread in a game where there is a vigilante. Period. Vivax never even tries, "because there are already votes on Rels" is a fucking excuse for not even trying. Period.
On October 01 2017 18:16 Vivax wrote:
Chez n rayn are mafia for sure for that vote.
Dude has just literally called Chezinu town FOR ACTUAL reasons, now he is saying Chezinu is mafia because of a town vs town vote count analysis?? hint: where ever the votes are you can't tell anything about the votes if the two leading wagons are town vs town. Another zero thought put into a read, also see that apparently Grackaroni (who was mafia D1) isn't mafia anymore for the same vote.
Grack -- mafia
Chezinu -- town
Grack and Chezinu make the same exact vote D1.
Grack -- not mafia???
Chezinu -- mafia
Or what, does Vivax think 3 out of 3 mafia latched on him (for no reason if we were mafia together) when it's a town vs town lynch.
That is what Vivax has done this game and nothing makes any fucking sense. Everything is:
- lynch afk's
- misrepping people
- making completely illogical conclusion
- looking like he cares when he certainly actually doesn't care.
Now, Vivax is not blue. I am not gonna tell you how i know but Vivax is not blue. Vivax is 90% certain not green either because as green he actually looks town so you go tell what's left. I don't give any fucks what Koshi says but i am pushing Vivax most likely until i am dead.
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Also then there is the garbage read on Koshi based on his garbage read on Breshke.
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On October 01 2017 21:06 Vivax wrote:
Chez literally just piled up to lynch an active dude over a non-player with zero reasons given.
This is another fucking misrepresentation because Chezinu clearly said he is sheeping me.
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Town list is:
Grackaroni
Oatsmaster
Chezinu
Fecalfeast
then there is a bunch of non-posters and
Damerion
Holyflare
Breshke
Koshi
shoot Breshke please. I kinda don't buy into him not at least trying to be helpful enough to mention he can't play if something happened that made him not being able to play. I think townies don't care about what happens to you if you do that and i think Breshke would inform us in advance if he was town and really -- as he claimed -- excited to play but for some reason couldn't play. Idk it just seems wrong.
If Breshke is in fact town i think Koshi has tmi and is mafia. Like that read on Breshke was super fucking utterly so much garbage i can't even find the proper words for it. It's funny that i even actually think Koshi could be town here but lately his play has been super garbage (regardless of what he claims -- if you don't post any actual content and act like you are just some fucking god and just trash on other people after the game "because you are so godlike" when you got lynched on D1 for not doing anything then you're just garbage at mafia and you should go play some other game where you are not meant to put out your thoughts and you can decide everything by yourself). So there is that too.
I'll talk about Holyflare a bit later, need to shower and play some brood war first.
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On October 02 2017 02:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
I like rayn's case, I read it because it's on the last page and am probably not gonna read anything else until later. rayn what's your battle.net I've been playing some broodwar lately
BLFG#2598, i only play on EU though.
On October 02 2017 02:21 Holyflare wrote:
....if I was mafia I was making a "case" (totally not a throwaway point that I had no motivation to even push that hard) on a point that I knew was absolutely not correct and would be clarified by the host if anybody asked the question
Not really, but we'll talk about it later.
On October 02 2017 02:22 Holyflare wrote:
I also don't believe that oats agrees with my points on rayn and even argues briefly with rayn about them and agrees with them but then seemingly backtracks on it and says it's garbage like 24 hours later but then does nothing to push me even though I'm doing absolutely nothing.
But that is what he does, i know it because he also does it with me a lot. Oats has done a lot of irrational things this game but i think it's more because of how he is rather than that he is mafia.
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so i don't have to do anything that's good.
i am not gonna do anything then.
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