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On August 23 2017 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote: /in My homeboy <3 | ||
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On August 23 2017 18:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: :/ Cheer up  | ||
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Didn't realize the game started, so I'm pretty relieved I'm not modkilled. I'll read the thread when I get home. Won't have time at work. | ||
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Only solid read is that skynx is town. I saw koshis opening post and thought koshi is mafia, just as skynx did. | ||
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On August 25 2017 19:02 Koshi wrote: Oatsmaster, Ruxxar, Geript I think I am lynching into this. If town wants Skynx it will be without my support. Mafia. | ||
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On August 25 2017 23:52 LightningStrike wrote: Explain why you thought Koshi was mafia for his opening post alone? For the same reason that skynx did. | ||
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On August 25 2017 23:57 Holyflare wrote: Are you fully caught up? More or less. There were a couple walls of text I didnt fully understand(heyo geript) but w/e. | ||
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On August 25 2017 23:58 LightningStrike wrote: Skynx retracted it was a NAI type of opening from Koshi. And? | ||
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On August 26 2017 00:01 Skynx wrote: Pretty much what others said Rux, I retracted my read and half the game is pretty much discussion on this, how did you miss that? I didn't miss it. The fact that you made the read in the first place is enough for me to call you town. | ||
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But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. | ||
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On August 26 2017 00:03 Skynx wrote: But how does my point make Koshi mafia if I admitted i was wrong about it? Just because I agreed with you on point A, doesn't mean I agree on point B. | ||
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On August 26 2017 00:02 LightningStrike wrote: If Koshi is mafia it's more than just his opening post but other reasons as well. Like I said we concluded it was NAI for Koshi. Yes there are other reasons. The opening post was a scum indicator, making me wary of koshi. What it did make me certain of is skynx being solid town, having the same reaction as I did reading it. | ||
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On August 25 2017 19:02 Koshi wrote: Oatsmaster, Ruxxar, Geript I think I am lynching into this. If town wants Skynx it will be without my support. This post is super scummy. Koshi having a hard time finding and pushing scum reads, so hes going for the lowest hanging fruit with afk people. | ||
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On August 26 2017 00:10 Holyflare wrote: You drunk? He made that conclusion AFTER he concluded koshi wasn't mafia. It's irrelevant nitpicking. NAI imo. | ||
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Do we vote in the voting thread or here? Im confused. | ||
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On August 26 2017 00:31 Holyflare wrote: How is it irrelevant nitpicking you just made the wrong conclusion based on a false premise but now it's nitpicking lol? Because it doesnt make him mafia or town no matter which way he thought about it. | ||
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On August 26 2017 00:30 Koshi wrote: What? I think you need to take HF his advice and not push me. It is going to have a backwards effect. HF told me to not push you? Where? | ||
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On August 26 2017 00:34 Koshi wrote: Town for a very long time Damdred Vivax Going to read them town for now LightningStrike Artanis[Xp] raynpelikoneet Skynx Very very slight townread Tumblewood MIA Oatsmaster Mafia Geript ruXxar HF gl hf bois. I think I am at least 2/3 right. HF is pretty certain mafia. He has been horribly shitty last couple of games (correct readwise (and compared to me)) but I think this is beyond that. Punish the mafia. I really think I am very right. Maybe rayn is mafia as well. But I don't think he is. So do not lynch Skynx/Artanis in future days when I am lynched. Go for geript/ruxx and hf. I truly hope some of you quote this post a couple times in future days. On August 26 2017 00:35 ruXxar wrote: ##vote koshi On August 25 2017 23:31 Holyflare wrote: ##unvote ##vote koshi On August 25 2017 06:25 geript wrote: ##vote koshi The OMGUS is in full force today. | ||
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On August 26 2017 00:47 Damdred wrote: Ruxxar opinions on geript and hf on the wagon? Geript voting for koshi is fine, it makes sense with his filter. HF has been a little bit all over the place, which he usually does as town. Most of his thoughts are summarized in this post. I agree about the point on Koshis read progression being a mess. With the end result being a list of 2 afk townies as lynch targets. On August 25 2017 23:30 Holyflare wrote: Read koshi filter and his posts towards tw. Realise tw was a scum read and it's disappeared off the face of the earth. Then look at his skynx progression. Skynx is probably mafia/bad looking after i post a good case (never votes skynx) into nothing changing but somehow he won't join the skynx wagon and now skynx is not even a mafia read. No posts in between. His artanis read is "that's a good thought" but anyone with any semblance of a town thought can see artanis' read is forced as fuck and crumbled completely but koshi bypasses that. Koshi's list of mafia initially magically became a list of an afk guy, a guy with 1 post and geript. Trash tier list. Now he got called out for it he's had to completely change it to some new bs that isn't congruent with his thoughts at all. His post to me when I fake claimed mafia was also talking to me like I was town and should "join the town circle" pandering to me because he knows my alignment. He purports he didn't realise but that's bs. Every koshi thought has been completely contradicted by his actions. There are either two koshis playing on his account or he's mafia. | ||
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On August 26 2017 01:02 LightningStrike wrote: How was it a scum indicator? Like I said he done as both alignments skynx even confirmed this himself...... Based on my own experience it is. | ||
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On August 26 2017 01:08 LightningStrike wrote: This isn't getting anywhere. Do you have any other scumreads you willing to talk about? I gave other reasons for scumreading koshi. Why dont you look at those. | ||
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On August 26 2017 01:18 LightningStrike wrote: I did hence my this isn't getting anywhere comment. Where did you discuss my other points? | ||
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On August 26 2017 04:14 geript wrote: Remember Generic 3? Remember Ruxxar who had a complete inability to not vomit each and every single little thought he had in the thread? It's kinda like that but way more subdued. It's like he has a thought, gives no shit about how it makes him look and just posts it. On sec let me get on comp to find an example. Youre comparing me to TW? Its not even the same ballpark now gtfo. | ||
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It felt important to get that out. | ||
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On August 26 2017 05:57 Vivax wrote: This is the only good post I could accept him scumreading Koshi for, BUT , it doesn't really make sense when Ruxxar starts out the game by top towning skynx anyway. What's wrong with Koshi trying to defend a mutual townread? Instead we get: Ruxxar getting it wrong on the gameplan thing completely missing that it's a NAI thing as pointed out by three people who are most likely not mafia (imo), and he has no read on anyway. That'd be me, TW, LS. Calling Koshi's 8 page filter which imo looks rather extensive "superficial". Complaining that Koshi scumreads afkers/low hanging fruit before even having an own read on those. This is also a NAI reason even if Koshi did that. When Koshi posts another different list, Ruxxar doesn't reeval, instead he calls the entire wagon on Koshi omgus. Even if it's a joke, it's lazy and I'd expect him to try to find something wrong with the new reads, not just making a joke and lazily remain parked on Koshil. This is the shittiest post in the history of shittyposts. 1) |Your argument about me town reading skynx in relation to this makes 0 sense. Please explain. Tbh, I dont give a jacks ss about you, tw and LS. if anythign Id say that Vivax and TW are the most scummyh out of you. LS has that natural towny ish behavor that i remember from loooong ago. Anyway... What does skynx have to do with this anyway. Skyx is town, and any assumptions you make about me without assuming that i think that skynx is town, is going into failure city. So fuck right off with that this nstant. And no, Im not give you my opinion on LS, tw and vivax. right now, koshi is the most suspect. | ||
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On August 26 2017 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: gonna play a couple of games of scbw, be back in 30mins SCBW is the shit. Also, play terran or you are the pussiest shit of the shits. | ||
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On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read. So im gonna be 100% honest. I kinda liked Artanis read earlier on, based purely on structure and convicton. HOWEVER... im still watiing for a certain something to kick in when it comes to rayn..... I gotta ask.. rayn dont you think im scummy? | ||
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................. ....... .... ... ..... Sorry i cant say.. its my super secret rayn read tech.. | ||
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On August 26 2017 05:49 Holyflare wrote: Ruxxar good kill Nooooooooooooo. HF I love you. You are my idol. Dont do this to me  (((((((((((((. | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: For the record Oats is town. YES | ||
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.... Not sure how to react to this. | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am gonna let you push on this if you want to. Why are you the gatekeeper that says what we can do or not? Oatsmaster is a fucking G. he can push whatever he wants to. nd yeah, I actually happen to like the idea he pushes here. | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Youre town too but youre also the dumbest idiot who has set foot on this game... OH MY GOD RAYN. THIS IS TOWN RAYN LULULULULUL | ||
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Rayn you are mafia. Prove my otherwise. | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:10 Tumblewood wrote: so if i am to trust rayn on oats (and i do because he has apparently played 50 million games with him), i have converged upon a team of geript/hf/art. and outside of that there might be one scum that i am overlooking TW. I take you as a honest... down to earth guy. If you say you are town im gonna believe you.... Are you town? | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:12 Tumblewood wrote: this is assuming i didn't let some shit with rayn's blue claim go over my head ????? | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:12 Oatsmaster wrote: You wanna share? Or you just wanna keep it to yourself. I dont want to share, cuz its my only way to read rayns alignment with certainty. | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:14 Oatsmaster wrote: So you only care about being right rather than winning the game? cool. Nope. Im caring abut catching the big fish, If rayn is mafia and I catch him.. the rest will be piece of cake to catch, | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:15 Tumblewood wrote: i think 2ish pages ago rayn said he was parity cop. hf hard claimed blue at the start of the game but i don't think he's serious. but idk, i tend to wait until the thread catches up to it because i'm really shit with telling whether people are claiming for real or not. Can you quote the post? My mind is kinda... wandering at this point.... | ||
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No. Ive been afk for so long. My reading of rayn right now is not accurate. | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:18 Tumblewood wrote: pranked! it was actually 4 pages ago ¨ Whatever. I can guarantee you 1 thing tonight 100%. Rayn is going to be alive tomorrow. | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok so if hes mafia there must be something that proves it right? Can you find something that HF has said that makes you think hes mafia? + Show Spoiler + HF is not mafia.. end of story... | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:21 Oatsmaster wrote: ????? So rayn is "not ticking the right checkboxes" but you also dont know what his alignment actually is. K. K k k k k k kk k k kk kkkk kk k kk k k k k kk . | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:21 Oatsmaster wrote: ????? So rayn is "not ticking the right checkboxes" but you also dont know what his alignment actually is. K. I HAVENT BEEN ACTIVE ENOUGH TO BE ON RAYNS RADAR. THATS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW. | ||
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The answer is obvious.. why do you need his answer to make up your mind? | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:24 Tumblewood wrote: aha! this is the beauty of PoE. if no one seems like clear mafia, i can spend all day handing out townreads and then have a scumlist without having to know why any one of them is scum. but still be mostly right Except if your name is koshi, and you just want want to lynch all the dudues being afk \o/ | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey you are the one that has the super secret way to read rayn, not me haha It only works im active enough to piss of rayn.. I kinda missed the train by not noticing the game starting. Dont worry though, rayn is gonna be a easy read of mine once enough time has passed. | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:26 Holyflare wrote: koshi/tw/someonelike60%ofplayersinthisgame HF. If you were gonna give a score how high koshi is mafia 1 to 100. What would you say? | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:28 Oatsmaster wrote: TW doesnt find mafia, he finds town until there are 3 people and then he calls them all mafia. I hate people that only look for town.. TW...and LS.. FIND SOME FUCKING SCUM..... | ||
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No. That smiley face aint good enough. Give me some real thoughts on where your head is at. | ||
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I like it. Burn the bastard with fire. | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:32 Tumblewood wrote: the problem is apparently all of my thoughts are fake thoughts Says who? Dont mind those fuckers.. Just lay your thoughts out there.. and the truth will come to bear. | ||
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If I say that HF isnt mafia, HF isnt mafia You guys better belive me. | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Im not fine with you making them up. I want to see if you can find evidence that anyone at all is mafia. Ok it doesnt need to be HF, it can be geript or artanis. Actually this is a good point. EVERYONE, should have a MINIMUM of 1 scum read at this point. | ||
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On August 26 2017 07:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Im not fine with you making them up. I want to see if you can find evidence that anyone at all is mafia. Ok it doesnt need to be HF, it can be geript or artanis. Why should it be geript or artanis??!!! | ||
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Dude.. I love you rayn.. but I never read the pages where you claimed anything.. I guess im just too drunk for this shit. | ||
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IM GOING TO BED.. TALK TO ME TOMORROW: | ||
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On August 26 2017 05:57 Vivax wrote: This is the only good post I could accept him scumreading Koshi for, BUT , it doesn't really make sense when Ruxxar starts out the game by top towning skynx anyway. What's wrong with Koshi trying to defend a mutual townread? Instead we get: Ruxxar getting it wrong on the gameplan thing completely missing that it's a NAI thing as pointed out by three people who are most likely not mafia (imo), and he has no read on anyway. That'd be me, TW, LS. Calling Koshi's 8 page filter which imo looks rather extensive "superficial". Complaining that Koshi scumreads afkers/low hanging fruit before even having an own read on those. This is also a NAI reason even if Koshi did that. When Koshi posts another different list, Ruxxar doesn't reeval, instead he calls the entire wagon on Koshi omgus. Even if it's a joke, it's lazy and I'd expect him to try to find something wrong with the new reads, not just making a joke and lazily remain parked on Koshil. Post count has nothing to do with how superficial koshi is playing. Koshi is taking the path of least resistance, wanting to lynch Afk people. He gets called out for it, and now he puts the people voting him on his scum list. There's literally no reason why he thinks me and HF are mafia besides voting for him. | ||
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It means that rayn is not playing his A-game right now. | ||
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On August 26 2017 20:02 Skynx wrote: Sad thing is its prolly all town on me again You could solve this real fast if you just answer their questions. | ||
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On August 26 2017 20:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like he just randomly threw out a Geript/TW/Oats scumteam, then it became HF/Ruxx/Geript iirc? Feels like he's not actually thinking about the game. Exactly. | ||
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Koshi. Rayn. Vivax. Rayn joins the list for shitting up the thread with nitpicky accusations against skynx, trying to make him look like scum over details that don't mean jack. | ||
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His posting lately is top tier. | ||
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On August 27 2017 06:37 Damdred wrote: Ok? His reasoning on his vote was bad, had no real insight into the thread going on. And honestly if you had played with rux before you would understand what I mean by activity, it's like astronomical bad do him. But hes never rolled scum (i think) and part of me wonders if this I him just trying to get by and figure thing out. What part of my reason for voting koshi is bad? | ||
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Yes. | ||
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Take your pick. + Show Spoiler [ruXxar] + [S] Newbie Student Mafia XI Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 4 [N] Mafia in the Himalayas Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 6 [N] TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden Mafia Vanilla Survived Day 6 [S] Newbie Student Mafia XIII Town Vanilla Survived Day 4 [M][T] Tropical Storm Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Night 2 [T] The New Personality Mafia Town LightningStrike Lynched Day 1 | ||
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Really now? | ||
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On August 27 2017 07:07 Oatsmaster wrote: lol 25 pages That game had 446 pages. | ||
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On August 27 2017 07:18 LightningStrike wrote: Ya I haven't forgiven myself for being a jackass in LYLO there. Mm. Ive done a lot of dumb things i regret too. Dont leat it eat you up. | ||
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On August 27 2017 08:32 Vivax wrote: You lynched Koshi? Gratz. I was expecting skynx to die 100 % when I posted the tomb stone. Instead you lynched the guy with the huge D1 filter for some bad reasons I kept pointing out. Tomorrow Skynx, Oats or Ruxxar please. Off chance that in the case of Oats I'm just lynching into stupid but I don't care much since he's just a hindrance to progressing the game if he's town with terribad reads and approach to the game. The other two are very likely mafia. Other stuff: Damdred is very likely town and has reads close to mine and he tried to save Koshi. I think by now he also made himself fairly readable as his D1 wasn't too active pre-Eod. I think everyone should just sheep him (or me) and keep him close (~_^) Did you also have a post like this prepared in case artanis got lynched? In other words, this post is trash. There was only 1 vote separating koshi from artanis lynch. If only someone hadnt wasted his vote off wagon and instead tried to save koshi... hmm... | ||
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On August 27 2017 09:14 Vivax wrote: If I spend my saturdays out with friends after I left the game expecting everyone to have the information needed to lynch skynx, then I don't need to feel guilty for anything. I did my work for the day by the time I left the thread. So you're accusing me of not lynching your top tier townread. Any more scum claims? You couldve saved koshi. You didnt. And now youre bitchin koshi is dead. | ||
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On August 27 2017 09:26 Vivax wrote: So what? I did what I could to get people off Koshi. You're saying you'd rather had me lynch your top tier townread instead which is ridiculously scummy. By voting off wagon? Sure | ||
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On August 27 2017 09:30 Vivax wrote: It pretty much means your reads stopped mattering the moment you made that accusation. Cause as mafia you couldn't make an accusation that still was consistent with your fake opinion on the game. I made a correct call on Koshi and berated those lynching him for it and you tried to turn it into something that made me mafia while forgetting that the alternative would have been much more worse if you actually believed Artanis to be town. My reads dont matter here. This is about you. Your actions and your words are not in harmony. Words are words and votes are votes. The facts are you didnt save koshi when you had the full power to do so. | ||
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On August 27 2017 09:32 Vivax wrote: That doesn't answer anything. Why are you saying I should rather have lynched your top town Ruxxar? Why does my read on artanis have anything to do with what YOU shouldve done? | ||
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On August 27 2017 09:37 Vivax wrote: What would be your read on me if I lynched Artanis, Ruxxar? Less scummy than it is now. | ||
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On August 27 2017 09:41 Vivax wrote: Refusal to answer simple questions noted. Dodging the issue like skynx did. I look forward to the feedback to this conversation from actual townies. Now answer this: On August 27 2017 09:38 ruXxar wrote: Why does my read on artanis have anything to do with what YOU shouldve done? | ||
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On August 27 2017 09:45 Vivax wrote: Not being in front of a computer doesn't make me mafia. How is that answer related to the question? 1) You did not want to lynch koshi. 2) I am town reading artanis. Your conclusion: You shouldnt lynch artanis because I think artanis is town? ??????? | ||
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On August 27 2017 09:53 Vivax wrote: Uhm, you are accusing me of being off wagon. I was off wagon cause I was afk, hence you are accusing me of being afk. My conclusion is that you wouldn't have cared if Artanis got lynched, cause you are saying I should have lynched Artanis instead. In my world, lynching koshi is good, lynching artanis is bad. In your world, lynching koshi is bad, lynching artanis is good. Youre trying to take the logic of my world and apply it to yours, when it doesnt make sense. Whether you were afk or not doesnt matter, the vote is the vote. Theres also phones that can surf the web. Either way: If you werent afk, who would you have voted for? | ||
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On August 27 2017 10:18 Vivax wrote: That's a question that only allows one answer Yes. Ignore it. | ||
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On August 27 2017 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Last will: Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too. Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum. ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go. LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh. Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia. TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything. Town: Rayn LS ruXxar Townish: Skynx LS Vivax HF Null: TW Oats Null-scummish Geript Scum Damdred Koshi I don't understand something here. Why is damdred lock scum, while all the other people you mentioned are null, townish or whatnot. It doesn't seem to me like your reason for scum reading damdred is any stronger than the reasons you have given for any of your other "maybe" people. | ||
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##vote raynpelikoneet | ||
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His observation on tumblewood does not come from mafia mindset. By extension, tumblewood is also town. | ||
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On August 28 2017 10:16 Oatsmaster wrote: What observation was that? Also whos mafia? Thats not rayn. 1) this post is very likely to come from town: On August 28 2017 02:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Reading through from where I left off I am also pretty sure TW is town. A little bit for this post: Exuding a lot of confidence. He has no problem going in against the flow of the thread, potentially making himself a focal point for little gain. Also his filter is already longer than his last scumgame where he was lynched D4, and as long as the scumgame before that where he was lynched D3. Also a little bit due to the list post he made earlier with all his notes. From what I can tell he's never done that before and I just don't think it's something you start doing as mafia rather than as town. Also also dinner ready! The post he's quoting from TW is also very town. 2) My Poe is at something like Rayn, HF, Damdred. | ||
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On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote: Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you ##Vote: LightningStrike I can't be bothered to defend myself when I rather spend my birthday doing other stuff. ... what the hell? | ||
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On August 28 2017 13:04 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol i explained how that post was totally bullshit. Why would town!artanis purposely lie about why he townread TW. Cause theres no way its for that. Your "explanation" is wrong. At the point TW made that post the votes looked this: On August 26 2017 00:40 AMG wrote: Vote Count
Non-voters LightningStrike, Damdred, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, Skynx, Tumblewood, Artanis[Xp] Currently, Koshi is set to be lynched. Deadline is in (at Saturday, Aug 26 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). Notice koshi being in the lead, who TW called town. So no. "The whole thread" didn't have the same reads as TW. | ||
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On August 28 2017 13:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am sorry but i have to say this, if you believe this you are either mafia or the worst fucking player on this planet. I was going to pretend to be offended, but then you're scum so that's cool. I also like how you're not actually calling me scum. Typical mafia rain. | ||
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On August 28 2017 13:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is also this interesting thing. Oatsmaster has called literally every single player in the game mafia, except for Ruxxar's scumreads, and Ruxxar doesn't have any problem with it. You're getting sloppy Rayn. You quoted this post like 2 seconds ago. Vivax and koshi were both my scum reads. On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote: I think ruxx is town too. So today i want to lynch TW LS Vivax Koshi | ||
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On August 28 2017 13:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: The sad part is i cannot call ruxxar mafia because he is most likely not. Although if he is in this game, i will probably lynch him in every game that will ever come after this one. Your scum play is too predictable. You might as well post baby seals right now. | ||
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On August 28 2017 14:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: You just "PoE'd" Damdred/rayn/HF who are the only three people Oats hasn't called mafia this game. This is relevant how? | ||
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We 100% hit scum if we lynch into Rayn/HF. | ||
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On August 28 2017 14:20 LightningStrike wrote: Or Mafia went for a medic dodge shot most likely. Nope. | ||
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1) It attempts to bait out a parity cop counter claim. A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game. 2) It wastes the Jailkeeper save. This means that scum doesn't need to worry about medic dodging and can pick whichever target they want. 3) Guaranteed KP for mafia. With the jailer jailing Rayn, the other mafia KP carrier on his scum team has a 0% chance to be jailed, guaranteeing a kill for scum. | ||
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On August 28 2017 14:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare and Damdred, when you have a chance could you guys explain to Skynx what happened there, please. Just do it before LYLO and i can just 100% ignore this one dude. I mean this guy cannot understand that if i am mafia a JK should always CC. LS would have done it. Oats would have done it. Ruxxar knows he is not JK. Skynx wouldn't have done what he did on D1 if he is JK (he would have cared more about being lynched). Artanis would have claimed EoD. HF would have 100% CC'd me (because he knows how to play this game). Damdred will 100% CC me (because he knows how to play this game). Tumblewood is not JK because he believes my claim. So mafia can put their bets on Onegu cc'ing me. Or if he doesn't, wow there is noone else in the game. Knowing the setup of the game makes it super favorable for scum to soft claim roles to bait out CCs. You're smart enough to know this Rayn. You're getting desperate now that I caught you with your pants down. I understand that. You better hurry up and lynch me before I ruin your scum game. | ||
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On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Pretty sure none of rayn's claims were "soft" What is your objective here rux? To lynch scum. | ||
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On August 28 2017 18:45 Holyflare wrote: Someone who is not voting artanis please explain his lies from a townie perspective. Explain why you or Rayn aren't dead. | ||
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On August 28 2017 14:49 ruXxar wrote: Rays fake cop claim is super scummy for these reasons: 1) It attempts to bait out a parity cop counter claim. A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game. 2) It wastes the Jailkeeper save. This means that scum doesn't need to worry about medic dodging and can pick whichever target they want. 3) Guaranteed KP for mafia. With the jailer jailing Rayn, the other mafia KP carrier on his scum team has a 0% chance to be jailed, guaranteeing a kill for scum. This is currently the best post in the game. | ||
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On August 28 2017 21:22 Holyflare wrote: like you can literally just wait for another mafia nk at least? you have given 0 evidence why artanis is not mafia whatsoever If you could make a coherent case on why artanis is mafia I might consider reading it. | ||
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On August 28 2017 21:17 Holyflare wrote: because rayn claimed parity cop to draw a jk Can you explain how this makes sense from rayn!town? | ||
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On August 28 2017 23:05 Holyflare wrote: Are you for real? I've posted about 100 reasons? His skynx read. His lack of doing anything and perpetual afk. When he does appear it's to do not much. Geript is up for lynch with koshi (who he doesn't scum read despite there being multiple cases in the thread about it) and he joins the wagon for an arbitrary reason (that was already talked about AT LENGTH). His reads just completely switch to koshi and geript (when does he even mention geript ever???) Then when he's called out by me on his koshi vote choices post lynch he says he only read from page X. I point out that's a lie since my case (that he copied) happened when he said he read. Then he says oh funny coincidence it was page Y. I pointed out that I actually pasted my case again at page Y. So two lies. Then he changes his story for a third time and says maybe he didn't read the thread then and only read koshi's filter. Koshi quoted my case and talked about it in his filter. Then he martyred because he got so easily caught. Someone who has never been lynched as town EVER just martyrs? No. Now he's nowhere to be seen and just drops bs town reads randomly on one guy. Oh also his damdred scum read at deadline which was stronger than his geript one but had no reasoning either. None of these reasons are convincing me that he's mafia. Town are much more likely to slip up and say stupid shit than scum are. I'm sure you remember my CCCP fail of the year. And if he was with a scum team, they would have planned who to scum-read and who to push. He wouldn't randomly push someone without making sure he had a believable reason to do so. | ||
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On August 28 2017 23:11 Holyflare wrote: If rayn is a town jailkeeper he's going to assume he's playing well and will get shot. To stop mafia shooting him then he claims a role that will now be protected. Mafia now have to shoot someone else (me likely) now he has a chance to protect that person. It's a poor play really but there are town explanations. I think his play has been markedly different from last game too. So why didn't you get shot? With Rayn drawing the JK, there is 0 risk for mafia to shoot you. However you try to twist it, there's 1 scum between you and Rayn. | ||
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On August 28 2017 23:29 Damdred wrote: Just as an aside there are games where town rayn and town hf have went to near endgame. So yeah it's a bad argument. You can find examples of almost anything. How is that even supposed to be a counter argument... Do you disagree that Rayn and HF are the best NKs for scum? | ||
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On August 28 2017 23:42 Damdred wrote: Generally speaking yes. But that's not to say they should always be shot d1, or even happen often. Probably if neither are dead d2 Or 3 its time to worry today the argument isn't that great. So you agree they are the best NKs, but they aren't dead. The simple explanation is that it's because they are scum. | ||
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I'll repeat it for all of you so everyone understands. Why HF is scum: 1) HF and Rayn are the best NKs. 2) Rayn fake claims parity cop. 3) Jailkeeper should be protecting Rayn. HF should get NKed. 4) Day 2, HF is alive. Conclusion: HF is scum. Why Rayn is scum: On August 28 2017 14:49 ruXxar wrote: Rayn fake cop claim is super scummy for these reasons: 1) It attempts to bait out a parity cop counter claim. A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game. 2) It wastes the Jailkeeper save. This means that scum doesn't need to worry about medic dodging and can pick whichever target they want. 3) Guaranteed KP for mafia. With the jailer jailing Rayn, the other mafia KP carrier on his scum team has a 0% chance to be jailed, guaranteeing a kill for scum. The chance that there is mafia in HF/Rayn is 99.9%. Can you read this case LS and tell me if something is still unclear? | ||
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On August 28 2017 23:52 Onegu wrote: Im here. I have a bunch to catch up and its my birthday. So things will come but come slow from me. Welcome to the game. | ||
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On August 28 2017 23:59 Damdred wrote: I disagree with your conclusion very much. There are so many different possibilities you have to take into account. Not the least is this argument itself. I don't care about "all the possibilities". I only care about the possibility that is most likely correct. That possibility is the one that I presented. | ||
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On August 29 2017 00:20 LightningStrike wrote: He claimed jail keeper from what I found if I read it right......... He claimed parity cop. On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed. | ||
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On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed. On August 28 2017 04:30 Fecalfeast wrote: Day 2 Vivax the parity cop was killed We have proof Rayn fake claimed, yet nobody wants to lynch him besides me and skynx. This is basically the same as if vivax had counterclaimed and there are no consequences for Rayn. The upsides for scum is: 1) Bait out counter claim then run away without getting lynched. 2) Draw Jailkeeper away from protecting town. 3) Draw Jailkeeper away from blocking scum KP carrier. 4) Never get lynched by town unless CCed, then just run away without getting lynched. Take a deep breath and try to think rationally about what I'm saying. Evaluate the facts for what they are on their own. I can't make it much clearer than this. | ||
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On August 29 2017 00:31 LightningStrike wrote: He claimed Jailkeeper here: Look at the time stamps. He posted that *After* Vivax was shot. On August 28 2017 04:30 Fecalfeast wrote: Day 2 Vivax the parity cop was killed On August 28 2017 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: I needed a medic dodge on me because i cant jail myself. | ||
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On August 29 2017 00:53 Holyflare wrote: ruxxar if you're going to CC jailkeeper just fucking do it already You're trying to create a plausible story for why I'm the next scum night kill? | ||
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On August 29 2017 01:02 Holyflare wrote: no I'm just wondering wtf you're doing because rayn is unCCd jailkeeper and there's a scum being voted up for lynch so either you vote artanis or you CC rayn You can't possibly be this stupid HF. Here let me show you again: This claim by Rayn was made *before* vivax flipped. Here he claims parity cop This claim matters. On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed. Then comes the flip: On August 28 2017 04:30 Fecalfeast wrote: Day 2 Vivax the parity cop was killed This claim by Rayn was made *after* vivax flipped. Here he claims jail keeper. This claim is worthless. On August 28 2017 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: I needed a medic dodge on me because i cant jail myself. I know you gotta keep playing dumb since you are mafia, but I hope everyone else seriously considers this. And now im done posting. This shit takes too long on a phone. | ||
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On August 29 2017 01:20 Damdred wrote: What we are saying rux, is this. Unless you have someone who cc run you don't lynch rayn. Aside from the parity claim his play is towny and makes sense for town rayn. Read my post. Rayns claim isn't worth jack shit since he changed it *after* the parity cop has flipped. Let me give you a simple analogy: Rayn: "I'm the cop." *Real cop dies* Rayn: "oh oops, I meant I was the Jailkeeper" Do you not understand why the second claim is worthless? | ||
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On August 29 2017 01:29 Damdred wrote: Still not lynching the claim unless we have a cc, and there at only 3-4 people who could CD and have hinted they are UK or shows real disbelief towards rayn. Can you post this again without spelling errors? | ||
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On August 29 2017 01:38 Damdred wrote: Ok I'll boil it for both of us, I will not lynch run or consider it until someone claims jk against him. I think your argument towards hf and Ryan is flawed and for not take into account really any information besides your personal biases. And personally I think both are town. What biases? Please quote my posts and point out where my logic is flawed. | ||
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On August 29 2017 01:27 ruXxar wrote: Read my post. Rayns claim isn't worth jack shit since he changed it *after* the parity cop has flipped. Let me give you a simple analogy: Rayn: "I'm the cop." *Real cop dies* Rayn: "oh oops, I meant I was the Jailkeeper" Do you not understand why the second claim is worthless? Can I get a yes or no answer to this question damdred? | ||
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On August 29 2017 01:49 Damdred wrote: Like at least three people have said why your argument is just incorrect currently. Then being alive die not make them scum and you can point to other games for this. Fake claims/people pretending to be roles happens all the time, i think what rayn did was not the best move but anyone who knows how parity works would never cc him d1. Everyone has been in the thread no one has cc rayn, he should be believed unless someone counters him. And every game you think rayn and hf are scum (generally). Besides that fact you are biased because you have come to your conclusions and refuse to see any side but what you think is correct. 1) Can you point out exactly what it is I said that is incorrect? 2) I believed the parity cop claim. I do not believe the Jailkeeper claim. | ||
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On August 29 2017 01:54 Damdred wrote: I dont think the second claim is worthless, no. If Rayn is the jailer, it means there is nobody left to protect him from mafia NK. If he doesn't get NKed tonight, he is 100% guaranteed scum. | ||
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On August 29 2017 01:56 Skynx wrote: Meh whatever, rayn screwing up doesn't change anything on Art so i guess we lynch scum either way today. This game is probably lost anyway, you guys are getting Holyflared. ? | ||
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You are my little homeboy this game. Make it very clear to all of us. 1) Why did you claim parity cop? 2) are you 100% steadfast in your jk claim. | ||
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Do you think it's scum favored to fake claim parity cop in this game? Try to just forget the the game and just follow the logic in my arguments. I'm trying to appeal to your intellect and higher self, TBH I don't give a fuck about this game win or lose. Give me some input on my arguments for calling you scum. | ||
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On August 29 2017 12:16 LightningStrike wrote: i surprised no one was talking like trying to find scum incase lex flips town for whatever reason. ...... Are you for real? | ||
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On August 29 2017 15:04 Alakaslam wrote: Dang this game at mylo? Another one going up when it ends? Who da hell are you? | ||
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Does this look like a scum train? It's so obvious we're lynching town right now. Each and everyone of you stoners need to get your head checked. 1) Everyone voting the same guy | check. 2) Dead thread | check 3) No counter wagon | check. Do you guys not understand what's going on here? Fucking lazy sheep the whole bunch of you. It's pissing me off so fucking much that you all have your heads stuck up your ass. Fuck it I don't even want to play this game anymore. I'll just be voting myself for the rest of the game. I don't give a shit anymore. | ||
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Just get me out of this fucking game. ![[image loading]](https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/UJlQR6-cw95qT5pajvyG0c8SS2c=/fit-in/1072x0/filters:focal(393x403:394x404)/https://public-media.smithsonianmag.com/filer/b1/ef/b1ef12c3-d5cd-4c7e-882c-290ffc946a33/greysealpupday2web.jpg) | ||
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On August 30 2017 18:42 Holyflare wrote: Oh forgot ruxxar and ls. Ls seems kind of lost so i think he's ok. Ruxxar is playing like mafia but he always does so how do you tell when he's actually mafia? You can lynch me tomorrow. I'm done with this game. | ||
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On August 30 2017 19:40 Holyflare wrote: And why is that? First off, the mafia team is stacked. I feel it's really unfair that people are getting by simply by the credit of their reputation. It doesn't matter what I say, mafia is never getting lynched this game. We might as well skip to endgame and declare mafia victory. | ||
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On August 30 2017 20:00 Holyflare wrote: The mafia team is who then? Who is getting by because of reputation? If you say rayn that's fucking stupid. He's getting through because he's an unCCd jailkeeper. And if he's alive tomorrow, what will you say? | ||
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Rayn/HF/Damdred mafia. The rest of town doesn't stand a chance. Sad life. | ||
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On August 30 2017 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: I will not believe Damdred is mafia. I will also not believe Skynx is mafia because of what Artanis said and because i had the same conclusion about Skynx' D1, if he did that as mafia when there was Koshi with you pushing him as lynch up, then well played but i just don't think that's true. I have had a townread on Tumblewood but i guess i should reread him too, probably wont change my mind, but i think the EoD 1 of his should be contrasted to his other posts. So basically - i believe there has to be at least 1 mafia between LS and ruxxar. And i am not sure which one that is. Ruxxar is starting to look more and more like too bad to be too bad to be scum, i think he might be overplaying this. Pay a great deal of attention to what he says after the night kill since with 100% certainty one of his scumreads is going to die. So damdred is town. Good to know. | ||
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With this little secret, you too can be a master scum hunter. After the night kill, is Rayn dead? No: Vote Rayn. Yes: Vote HF. You can thank me later. | ||
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On August 31 2017 00:17 Holyflare wrote: ????? Doesn't even make sense ruxxar Why not? | ||
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Might as well try to enjoy it. I'm over it anyway. | ||
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1) Rayn claims parity cop. 2) People say "only lynch Rayn if he's CCed" 3) The real parity cop dies. 4) Nobody wants to lynch Rayn. There's 0 difference between the real cop CCing or dying. I literally can't handle the stupid that's going on in this thread right now. | ||
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On August 31 2017 00:49 Damdred wrote: The idea rux has the kill seems funny is correct, the conckusion he draws of rayn being scum and hf being scumisnt xorrect. What is the correct conclusion? | ||
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There's no way HF and Rayn are so shitty they couldn't smell it was a town lynch from miles away. But apparently they were in a car crash and lost some brain cells and are now struggling with simple mafia concepts. | ||
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On August 31 2017 01:07 Damdred wrote: That one of the people vivax was pressuring was scum, or they blue read him Vivax has good reads though so I'm hoping one. What if I told you that vivax was the strongest player in the game that wasnt scum. | ||
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On August 31 2017 01:36 Damdred wrote: That's kind of rude, but I understand I haven't been very good lately cause of rl. My list of power level would go something like this: Rayn/HF Koshi Geript/Vivax. Damdred. ..... everyone else. Now koshi was dead. Geript was swapping out. Which leaves only Vivax. Rayn claimed parity cop, thats fine. So now you are expecting the jailkeeper to save Rayn. Mafia want to dodge the jailkeeper, so they pick the next guy on the list. Oops. The next guy is mafia. That's too bad. Next guy down is vivax. Good bye vivax. Now rayn is screwed. He claimed parity cop, and now he needs to make up some reason fast for why he fake claimed. Ah, he was the JK. Now it all makes sense right. But wait.. what is this? On August 31 2017 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: It was not, it was to keep HF alive. Can you see the players in this game? I couldn't give any fucks about a parity cop staying alive when you have this town with you, HF alive on D2 is like 3x parity cops. How does Rayn claiming parity cop and forcing the JK to save him, save HF in any way? It doesn't. I mean.. I can only show you guys the scum. I cant force you to lynch them. | ||
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On August 31 2017 01:54 Holyflare wrote: Are you stupid? Rayn is jailkeeper. Claims parity cop so mafia have to medic dodge him and likely kill me. Jailkeeper rayn is healing me TO SAVE ME and stop the nk with a play. It's really really simple to comprehend. HOW WOULD MAFIA KNOW RAYN IS FAKE CLAIMING?!!! Holy jesus. Stop making it so obvious you are mafia HF. But its allright. Keep on scum slipping, nobody is going to lift a finger anyway. | ||
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On August 31 2017 02:01 Holyflare wrote: What the fuck are you talking about ruxxar? 1) Mafia doesnt know rayn fake claims. They think he is real parity cop. 2) Mafia expect the jailkeeper to save Rayn. 3) You claim Rayn is going to save you from mafia. 4) Somehow mafia knows that rayn is going to save you, so they decide to NOT kill you and kill vivax instead. | ||
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On August 31 2017 01:54 Holyflare wrote: Are you stupid? Rayn is jailkeeper. Claims parity cop so mafia have to medic dodge him and likely kill me. Jailkeeper rayn is healing me TO SAVE ME and stop the nk with a play. It's really really simple to comprehend. And yet you aren't dead. Why did the mafia not kill you, when they were 100% guaranteed to kill you with the medic locked in on Rayn. | ||
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On August 31 2017 02:12 Holyflare wrote: Mafia could easily be thinking "what if the jk makes a play and saves hf instead of rayn to let him get a check off" since that's a logical play for a jk to do since they can then save rayn the next night when mafia would be likely to target him thinking jk can't. Or mafia could have a blue read on vivax. Or vivax could be scum reading mafia. Who the fuck knows what's happening in mafia head? You've forfeited the entire game by your dumb as shit narrative. If you're mafia whatever but if you're town pull your fingers out of your ears. Youre making up stupid ass stories, when the simple and most likely answer to anyone with 2 braincells is that you are scum. | ||
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On August 31 2017 02:14 Holyflare wrote: And regardless you have been calling rayn mafia all this time because of it!! Why does this make rayn mafia? On August 28 2017 14:49 ruXxar wrote: Rays fake cop claim is super scummy for these reasons: 1) It attempts to bait out a parity cop counter claim. A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game. 2) It wastes the Jailkeeper save. This means that scum doesn't need to worry about medic dodging and can pick whichever target they want. 3) Guaranteed KP for mafia. With the jailer jailing Rayn, the other mafia KP carrier on his scum team has a 0% chance to be jailed, guaranteeing a kill for scum. On August 29 2017 00:52 ruXxar wrote: There is literally 0 downside to fake claiming parity cop as scum in an open setup. We have proof Rayn fake claimed, yet nobody wants to lynch him besides me and skynx. This is basically the same as if vivax had counterclaimed and there are no consequences for Rayn. The upsides for scum is: 1) Bait out counter claim then run away without getting lynched. 2) Draw Jailkeeper away from protecting town. 3) Draw Jailkeeper away from blocking scum KP carrier. 4) Never get lynched by town unless CCed, then just run away without getting lynched. Take a deep breath and try to think rationally about what I'm saying. Evaluate the facts for what they are on their own. I can't make it much clearer than this. | ||
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On August 31 2017 02:19 Holyflare wrote: So where is the real jailkeeper ruxxar? Im sure youd love to know that. | ||
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... Might aswell just post your scum role PM in the thread. Noones gonna do anything about it. | ||
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On August 31 2017 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote: What now rux?!?? What do you mean what now? My flowchart was very clear. On August 31 2017 00:14 ruXxar wrote: Here's a simple flowchart for you people who have trouble figuring things out. With this little secret, you too can be a master scum hunter. After the night kill, is Rayn dead? No: Vote Rayn. Yes: Vote HF. You can thank me later. | ||
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On August 31 2017 05:54 Oatsmaster wrote: V you seriously think that enough people will agree with you to lunch holyflare over geript? What people? This game is dead. My strat is for everyone to get modkilled for afking. | ||
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His language and demeanor is so scummy I can't ignore it. ##vote tumblewood | ||
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X could be anyone right now except for Oats. Oats is town. | ||
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On August 31 2017 17:33 Holyflare wrote: No lynch or onegu today imo Lynch TW with us. | ||
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You know what, I rather lose the game voting the guy I think is the most mafia. I'm switching back to HF. ##vote holyflare | ||
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It's all in your hands now. | ||
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No it's not. If we manage to get 3 people on scum before mafia gets 3 people on town, there no way that we can lose. | ||
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On September 01 2017 15:30 Oatsmaster wrote: yes but if hf isnt mafia then we lose. Sooooooo Yeahhhh If whoever we vote isn't mafia we lose. So vote with us oats. | ||
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On September 01 2017 15:48 Holyflare wrote: I'm not mafia though, just feel like shit instead. Keep deflecting off onegu though Like I was deflecting off scum artanis? | ||
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On September 01 2017 22:21 Holyflare wrote: Omg this is like too perfect. Did he just slip you are teammates and forgot about you?? Slipping by not giving a read on someone? That's low tier reasoning, especially for you HF. | ||
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Mafia: HF/TW. Town: Oats, Onegu. Townish: Damdred. Scummish: LS Null: Skynx | ||
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This is mylo. If I was mafia, do you seriously think I would go after the hardest person to lynch in the game? I could lynch any afk townie and win the game. Why would I even bother looking in your direction if I'm mafia? | ||
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On September 02 2017 03:47 Oatsmaster wrote: lets no lynch ##unvote ##vote no lynch Please don't no lynch. This gives mafia the power to lynch whoever they want. | ||
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No reason not to. | ||
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We are in mylo. If we nolynch we lose another town and are in lylo. Our situation is the same but we have more information. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:07 Skynx wrote: Cool, let's no lynch. We got at least 5 atm. Alright, I'm going for it. | ||
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Listen up scrubs. The point was that you're spreading yourselves thin. With everyone here agreeing, nolynch is objectively the best play, | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:12 Skynx wrote: No lynch is very pro-town i understand but look at Damdred guys... He posted a list, he has been around. He hasn't voted yet. Doesn't matter, we don't need him. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:13 Oatsmaster wrote: thats not what you said. You specifically said "No lynch gives mafia a chance chose a lynch", not "spreading yourselves thin gives mafia a chance to chose the lynch" My thought to word transfer is not exactly known to be the best. My head is usually chaos, and you're just lucky something coherent comes out of it sometimes. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:15 LightningStrike wrote: No lynching is best because it gives us more time to figure who we want to lynch and the night kill might give us more information. Smart. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:15 Oatsmaster wrote: wouldnt it be funny if we nolynch and damdred gets modkilled and is town and we lose? No, no it wouldn't. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:16 Oatsmaster wrote: So I'm lucky if you deign to say something that makes sense in a game in which you have to make sense to win. Seems like maybe you shouldnt do that. Do what? | ||
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Any suggestions? | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Btw if you are here and dont vote nolynch, you are claiming scum. +1 | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:23 Holyflare wrote: This game is honestly a travesty for not lynching ruxxar. Really really bad play. Not one of you has said anything you all just brush things aside and do not much. The dude is just mafia. Plain as day. He adapts to whatever the fuck sentiment is at the time today. That's mafia mylo 101. Like there is nothing more quintessential mafia mylo than that. Calm your tits. You can try and get me lynched tomorrow if your head hasn't been put back straight yet. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:25 Damdred wrote: Im sorry was at doctors with the babies. I vited no kynch atm but id sheep someone with a convincing case atm. With 4 minutes to go? That's a good way to throw the game. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:27 Holyflare wrote: I am going to write a comprehensive ruxxar case and you WILL 100% sheep it next cycle. No questions asked. You won't alive tomorrow. | ||
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If HF doesn't die tonight, he's scum. | ||
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On September 02 2017 04:33 Holyflare wrote: If you don't kill me ruxxar you have dropped the ball big time. I'll do my best tomorrow. | ||
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If we cant figure it out with the information we get from this NK, we dont deserve to win anway. | ||
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Its mafia that has to make the first move here. No need to rush anything. ##Vote nolynch | ||
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On September 03 2017 06:05 Holyflare wrote: so i'm not mafia anymore huhhhh? convenient Yeah yeah, vote no-lynch now or claim mafia. | ||
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On September 03 2017 16:42 Holyflare wrote: Have you people forgotten how to play mafia? There's a case nobody has said a word about. Ruxxar has "forgotten" his scum read on me and perpetuates no lynches. You crazy? You must be on some really strong drugs if you honestly think I don't scum read you anymore. The reason I strongly want to no-lynch, is because there are 2 more mafia besides you HF. It will be much easier to see the connections with 1 more townie out of the game. And fuck you for thinking that voting no-lynch is scummy. It's the most towny thing anyone can do right now. | ||
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On September 03 2017 17:12 Holyflare wrote: Are you for real? My whole case is predicated on you NOT wanting to no lynch until you got called out hahahahaha. You're just going to perpetuate this game ad nauseam and not nk me forever. I know it already. You literally haven't said a single word about me or ANYONE being mafia. You claim you're all for no lynching to get more information but you haven't done a single thing useful with it or made points on why anyone else is mafia like you purport you could have. Backtracking is unbelievable. The information comes from the nightkill.. There was no night kill. In other news, 1+1 = 2. | ||
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If I was mafia I would be really ashamed to draw the game at this point. Eventually they will have to nightkill someone if they want to win... | ||
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Which means that no-lynching is bad for them, or else they would've killed someone. Doing something that is bad for mafia = good for town. | ||
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Nothing has changed since yesterday. There is no reason why your opinion should change, when there has been no change to the game situation... | ||
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On September 03 2017 21:18 Holyflare wrote: There has been a dramatic change. I think you're confirmed mafia and I made a case stating why. You haven't even defended yourself and instead you're trying to make the game go on longer without actually talking about anything in the meantime. It's pathetic and anyone voting no lynch doesn't have a clue what they're talking about. Like it's quite ridiculous for you to say I'm confirmed mafia AND that we should wait for a night kill for more information. That just highlights that you: A) Don't really think I'm mafia because lynching me in your world would net you -1 mafia and take us out of mylo. Also allowing you to draw conclusions about other people. B) Don't care about figuring out the game at all because now that your tune has changed to nk gives us the most info you haven't once decided to formulate any mafia teams around me being mafia. It's quite clear you can't even coherently call me mafia. It's abundantly clear that you are just trying to follow thread sentiment to do nothing and blend in. It's excruciatingly clear that you're mafia. Please vote this guy so we can stop wasting our time. Not only will it kill a mafia but it will propel me so far up the town scale that they'll be forced to kill me and you'll all feel a little bit better next cycle. Defending myself against that sad worm works of a case is a waste of my time. I became dumber just reading it. Yes you are mafia, but there are others besides yourself. Waiting for another NK is going to make it easier to find your friends. | ||
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Like I said, no-lynching at that point with several people AFK is not a good idea. With everyone present, its obviously the best choice. | ||
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We are the the same situation today as we were yesterday. Why do you suddenly not want to no-lynch when you so strongly wanted to yesterday? | ||
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On September 03 2017 21:55 Holyflare wrote: I literally just posted what changed. It's in the case you called shit. I posted we should no lynch all day yesterday. You disagreed. Completely disagreed. Then magically it became a good idea. Now today when I should become your top lynch you just follow everyone else and say it was the best idea. You say we should consolidate on what town wants but i posted to no lynch yesterday BEFORE there was even a wagon. Aka your stance now is so unbelievably bull shit. Yes it was a good idea yesterday. Its a good idea today. Literally nothing has changed. So trying to make up some bs reason why no-lynching today is bad is based on false premises. | ||
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On September 04 2017 01:53 LightningStrike wrote: I fine with getting rid of one of the options but i thoguht it was dumb that mafia can no shoot if town goes for a no lynch. Yes, I think is a stupid rule, but it is what it is right now. We have to follow the rules. | ||
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On September 04 2017 01:20 Holyflare wrote: can we have a vote to get rid of no lynches and no kills? I don't think we should change the rules of the game while it's ongoing. Save it for the next game. | ||
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On September 04 2017 02:11 Holyflare wrote: no that's bull shit, that fits your agenda mafia rules have been changed mid game all the time when it's shit My agenda is to no-lynch which is pro-town. | ||
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If you are town you vote to no-lynch. End of story. I've already given up on this game, so don't care whatever happens. Mafia are smelling blood in the water right now. Watch out for the overly pushy guys that are avoiding no-lynching(HF). Like I said there is no need to rush. The game doesn't end for town if we lynch scum, there's 2 more, so minimum 2 more days. If you're whining over 1 more day of no-lynching you are scum. It's that simple. | ||
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On September 04 2017 04:00 Skynx wrote: Not exactly, no lynch comes before no nk. If we continue like this it lies on mafia to accept draw or make a kill. I'd be happy with a draw in this case since everyone just wants to get done with this game. Very town. | ||
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On September 04 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote: maybe it's just me but i'd rather not be in a mafia game where nothing happens for 9 rl days straight. and honestly i like having the extra townie as insurance against shit townies If you want to end the game right now, then vote for me. | ||
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I lost interest halfway through, and im probably not going to play again for a while. I feel really burnt out on mafia. I would be really happy to let the game end right now, but it would be against the spirit of the game and really bad manners from my side. | ||
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On September 04 2017 04:21 Holyflare wrote: guaranteed mafia concedes if ruxxar dies Why wait until I die? You can just concede right now. | ||
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HF is mafia, no doubt. Skynx is always town here for mindmelding and thinking rationally about the game. Also this post from skynx is starting to make a lot of sense right now: On September 01 2017 02:45 Skynx wrote: I don't think associations make sense at this point, I'm just gona go on with instinctively what i feel at this point. Ruxxar/TW/LS are town based on small stuff. LS's frustration felt genuine and Ruxxar not believing the claim to full extent i can relate. TW is more based on feels, his low volume play looks always the same both alignments and I identified him once as cop, i just don't think he's mafia here. I would lynch HF here. I think he has the wits as town to realise Koshi!town at some point. I also think he pushed Art so hard with minor inconsistencies that didn't mean that much, in the end he just gave up. I'm not saying pushing is a mafia trait here but at some point but there just isn't that self-questioning of "does that actually make him mafia" here which I think HF does a lot in general. Oats is my second lynch, he's just been picking up so many irrelevant stuff to question to seem interested in the game and give away town vibes. He has been pushing TW and geript for a while now but we had a chat in the beginning where he pointed out how its unlikely that they can't be mafia together. That means last one is Damdred/Onegu. This is gona be the game deciding lynch. I have a feeling its Damdred, the sheer comfort mafia had this game as town picked on one another, made him quite laidback and enjoy the towncred he gained early on. It's hard to say anything on Onegu's part. He seemed uninterested as was geript but it can be swinged both ways. Thats basically it, normally there is some association to make when you have two ml's but one was a complete waste, other was tvt. Everyone sr'd everyone so far, everyone showed so many inconsistencies its hard draw any conclusions so thats my best bet. Damdred is town for this post, where he correctly assesses that there is 1 mafia between Oats/TW. They are never together. On September 02 2017 00:03 Damdred wrote: Ok lets take a step back, Firstly its dissapointing that you cant choose between us hf. I mighgt struggle with my thoughts sometimes but thats oretry crappy reason to drop me so fast. Also whats the point of goif against you d1 on a koshi lynch and try to oush what i think as scum? (Yes i am townreading hf still). I have Onegu as my clear scum read currently his reads do not make s ton of sense, and geript himself was off of his normal game even barring the emotional distress. One of oats/tw they are never both mafia , and you also forgot to talk about tw hf. I think one of tgese two are scum, im sort of leaning oats atm for what skynx pointed out first it doeant maje a lot of sense for him to abandon his read for no real reason onto you. The third scum is sort of a mystery to me. LS has dropped ofd the face if the earth and im worried hes teixked me. Skynx is probably just town though hia thought process on his vkte reads towny. Idk about rux i guess maybe? He does make sebse with a onegu and oats team, but ls does .arginalky as well. Especially with how oats approached ls he kind of fits vetter with onegu and oats atm. There is 1 mafia between Oats and TW. They are never together if you look at how they went at each other yesterday. Then there is 1 mafia between Onegu and LS. This is due to the fact how they are both mega scumreading each other. This is why its so important that we no-lynch today. If we manage to remove one of the 50/50 options, we'll be on a really good path to catching 2 scum. Mafia can't NK me, cause its going to confirm that HF is mafia 100%. So mafia are forced to either NK damdred or skynx. Anything else is going to help town catch more scum. Now that I've said this... of course mafia are going to shoot one of Skynx/Damdred... | ||
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Our second best option is to lynch holyflare. Anything else is going to be a 50/50 to me right now. There might be some more connections if you dig deeper, but right now I gotta sleep. If anyone has any suggestions for who the 2 mafia are of these 4, then please share. I'd like us to try solve this tomorrow. TW. Onegu. LS. Oats. | ||
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We're about to bust your scum team, and all you can do is try to end the game before its too late. No wonder you dont want to no-lynch. | ||
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If you are both town, then where is the third mafia? I don't think onegu and LS are a team, which means it's either skynx or damdred. If you put a gun to my head and made me pick between damdred and skynx as scum, I would pick damdred. | ||
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The association between them is super strong. Just look at their last filter posts and how they interact with each other. | ||
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it means that the mafia team is exactly HF, damdred, LS. So that is currently one possibility. I think that a damdred/LS team makes more sense than a LS +tw/oats team. I feel like oats has been very independent, had a lot of head strong thoughts and not really fitting in with a team. I have a hard time fitting oats in a team. Oats/onegu works from the side of onegu super town reading oats. But from oats side he really doesn't like that onegu is town reading him so hard. Damdred/onegu team doesn't work. Damdred hated onegus list post. Ls/onegu doesn't work.theyre scum reading each other hard. TW/LS seems like it shouldn't really be a team either. Hmmf. I feel like the solution is right in front of us, we just need to figure it out. | ||
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It's so easy to see why mafia didn't shoot anyone. We are so close to figuring it out. They are super scared right now. With one more night kill we should have a really easy time solving the game. The reason mafia didn't shoot anyone is because it's bad for them. If it was good for mafia to shoot someone, they would have done it. What we need to do is pressure mafia into shooting. They don't want to, but they will be forced to do so if they don't want a draw. | ||
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On September 04 2017 10:59 Oatsmaster wrote: Thats not how it works generally in stalemates the team that does their action more recently isnt the one that has to do it again. So since there was a nightkill more recently than a lynch, the mafia team isnt forced to do anything. Mafia are the ones on the ropes. They didn't shoot because it's bad for them. If we keep no-lynching they will be forced to eventually shoot(which they don't want to). | ||
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On September 04 2017 14:20 Tumblewood wrote: you know what i just read ruxxar's new batch of posts and idc anymore. if he is town he has played so so bad We've come this far. Don't throw the game now. Vote no-lynch. | ||
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On September 04 2017 10:58 Oatsmaster wrote: You quoted the post that damdred said and all he said was that we werent mafai together. Then you take that and TMI it into 1 mafia between me and TW Because I don't think you're ever together. | ||
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It's fine with me either way. | ||
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I don't want to play with potato brains anyway. I've got better things to do with my time. | ||
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On September 04 2017 22:21 Damdred wrote: rux why did i go from being a green read to basically saying youbwould pick me as scum at the end? I was projecting possible team combinations. | ||
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On September 04 2017 23:50 Damdred wrote: I understand that, but ignoring hf for a moment i actually want to win here. so if yoi could tell me what you see as your last two scum, are they all on you? Whats going on? Fairly sure at least 2/3 are on me right now. Possibly all 3. I dont think mafia has much to lose by going all in right now. The only outlier is onegu. Looking over peoples filters, I think Oats is town. Hes been really consistent in his play all through the game, very direct and problem solving. I would be very surprised if he flips mafia. I think my scum pool are these 4 people: HF. TW. Onegu/LS. | ||
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Theres no point in me pushing anyone when I dont have thread pull. I wont be able to dig myself out of this one. | ||
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On September 05 2017 03:15 Skynx wrote: Ffs Ruxxar i thought u gave up Im not going down voting for myself. | ||
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I'll start: Mafia: HF. TW. LS/Onegu. | ||
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On September 05 2017 03:36 LightningStrike wrote: Does it bug anyone that Onegu is still on a off wagon still? Yes it does. | ||
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Mafia do not want to no-lynch. I can't make it simpler than that. | ||
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I had no energy to do anything besides lazy reads. I shouldnt have signed up in the first place. | ||
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