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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 14:47 GMT
#466
On August 25 2017 23:45 Koshi wrote:
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On August 25 2017 23:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:34 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:03 Koshi wrote:
Anyway LS. If you want bigger targets. Which are they? Xcept geript?

Idk maybe if lex continues to be a bit underwhelming to my expectations of him then lex would be another lynch but I need to see more from him to make a better judgement I think.

Well... Then who do you want to lynch if not geript and the afkers?

Like I said lex if he continues to be underwhelming >.< I know he could do better stuff as town.

I don't think he is a good lynch D1. You will remove a potential good player because he is "underwhelming". If you lynch him, you should lynch him solely for his Skynx read. Which I kinda like. Might have been TMI. But I like it.

Fair enough on that.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 14:52 GMT
#472
On August 25 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote:
I've read the thread.

Only solid read is that skynx is town.
I saw koshis opening post and thought koshi is mafia, just as skynx did.




Explain why you thought Koshi was mafia for his opening post alone?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 14:56 GMT
#484
On August 25 2017 23:53 Koshi wrote:
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On August 25 2017 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote:
I've read the thread.

Only solid read is that skynx is town.
I saw koshis opening post and thought koshi is mafia, just as skynx did.

Explain why you thought Koshi was mafia for his opening post alone?

He explained it. Because I went with a plan and Ruxxar hates plans.
It's NAI for him.

He should be prodded for more information between page 5 and whatever page we are on now.

He didn't explain it at least from my look in his filter.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 14:58 GMT
#489
On August 25 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote:
I've read the thread.

Only solid read is that skynx is town.
I saw koshis opening post and thought koshi is mafia, just as skynx did.




Explain why you thought Koshi was mafia for his opening post alone?


For the same reason that skynx did.

Skynx retracted it was a NAI type of opening from Koshi.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 15:01 GMT
#495
On August 25 2017 23:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:56 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:53 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote:
I've read the thread.

Only solid read is that skynx is town.
I saw koshis opening post and thought koshi is mafia, just as skynx did.

Explain why you thought Koshi was mafia for his opening post alone?

He explained it. Because I went with a plan and Ruxxar hates plans.
It's NAI for him.

He should be prodded for more information between page 5 and whatever page we are on now.

He didn't explain it at least from my look in his filter.

He said same reason as Skynx. And he scumread me last time for making a "plan". And Unfortunately I was mafia then. But w.e I am gone.

I will check the game when I am home. Time will be limited.
But I will find time to post my list once more.


I think mafia will put 2 votes on me. I know 2 townies will be bad and vote me. So basically there is a very legit chance I will be lynched.

Oh that part well meh that point was kinda been shut down already about how you done it as both alignments.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 15:02 GMT
#497
On August 26 2017 00:01 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote:
I've read the thread.

Only solid read is that skynx is town.
I saw koshis opening post and thought koshi is mafia, just as skynx did.




Explain why you thought Koshi was mafia for his opening post alone?


For the same reason that skynx did.

Skynx retracted it was a NAI type of opening from Koshi.


And?

If Koshi is mafia it's more than just his opening post but other reasons as well. Like I said we concluded it was NAI for Koshi.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 16:00 GMT
#528
On August 26 2017 00:38 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 26 2017 00:34 Koshi wrote:
Town for a very long time
Damdred
Vivax

Going to read them town for now
LightningStrike
Artanis[Xp]
raynpelikoneet
Skynx

Very very slight townread
Tumblewood

MIA
Oatsmaster

Mafia
Geript
ruXxar
HF


He had HF and you scumread before your votes????


gl hf bois. I think I am at least 2/3 right. HF is pretty certain mafia. He has been horribly shitty last couple of games (correct readwise (and compared to me)) but I think this is beyond that.

Punish the mafia. I really think I am very right. Maybe rayn is mafia as well. But I don't think he is.

So do not lynch Skynx/Artanis in future days when I am lynched. Go for geript/ruxx and hf.


I truly hope some of you quote this post a couple times in future days.


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On August 26 2017 00:35 ruXxar wrote:
##vote koshi

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On August 25 2017 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote koshi

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On August 25 2017 06:25 geript wrote:
##vote koshi


The OMGUS is in full force today.

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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 16:02 GMT
#529
On August 26 2017 00:08 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:01 ruXxar wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote:
I've read the thread.

Only solid read is that skynx is town.
I saw koshis opening post and thought koshi is mafia, just as skynx did.




Explain why you thought Koshi was mafia for his opening post alone?


For the same reason that skynx did.

Skynx retracted it was a NAI type of opening from Koshi.


And?

If Koshi is mafia it's more than just his opening post but other reasons as well. Like I said we concluded it was NAI for Koshi.


Yes there are other reasons.
The opening post was a scum indicator, making me wary of koshi.

What it did make me certain of is skynx being solid town, having the same reaction as I did reading it.

How was it a scum indicator? Like I said he done as both alignments skynx even confirmed this himself......
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 16:08 GMT
#532
On August 26 2017 01:03 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 01:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:08 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:01 ruXxar wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote:
I've read the thread.

Only solid read is that skynx is town.
I saw koshis opening post and thought koshi is mafia, just as skynx did.




Explain why you thought Koshi was mafia for his opening post alone?


For the same reason that skynx did.

Skynx retracted it was a NAI type of opening from Koshi.


And?

If Koshi is mafia it's more than just his opening post but other reasons as well. Like I said we concluded it was NAI for Koshi.


Yes there are other reasons.
The opening post was a scum indicator, making me wary of koshi.

What it did make me certain of is skynx being solid town, having the same reaction as I did reading it.

How was it a scum indicator? Like I said he done as both alignments skynx even confirmed this himself......


Based on my own experience it is.

This isn't getting anywhere. Do you have any other scumreads you willing to talk about?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 16:18 GMT
#535
On August 26 2017 01:15 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 01:08 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 01:03 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 01:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:08 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:01 ruXxar wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
Explain why you thought Koshi was mafia for his opening post alone?


For the same reason that skynx did.

Skynx retracted it was a NAI type of opening from Koshi.


And?

If Koshi is mafia it's more than just his opening post but other reasons as well. Like I said we concluded it was NAI for Koshi.


Yes there are other reasons.
The opening post was a scum indicator, making me wary of koshi.

What it did make me certain of is skynx being solid town, having the same reaction as I did reading it.

How was it a scum indicator? Like I said he done as both alignments skynx even confirmed this himself......


Based on my own experience it is.

This isn't getting anywhere. Do you have any other scumreads you willing to talk about?


I gave other reasons for scumreading koshi. Why dont you look at those.

I did hence my this isn't getting anywhere comment.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 16:23 GMT
#538
On August 26 2017 01:20 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 01:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 01:15 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 01:08 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 01:03 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 01:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:08 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:01 ruXxar wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:58 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
Skynx retracted it was a NAI type of opening from Koshi.


And?

If Koshi is mafia it's more than just his opening post but other reasons as well. Like I said we concluded it was NAI for Koshi.


Yes there are other reasons.
The opening post was a scum indicator, making me wary of koshi.

What it did make me certain of is skynx being solid town, having the same reaction as I did reading it.

How was it a scum indicator? Like I said he done as both alignments skynx even confirmed this himself......


Based on my own experience it is.

This isn't getting anywhere. Do you have any other scumreads you willing to talk about?


I gave other reasons for scumreading koshi. Why dont you look at those.

I did hence my this isn't getting anywhere comment.


Where did you discuss my other points?

I didn't talk about it I just took note of it.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 16:56 GMT
#541
On August 26 2017 01:50 Damdred wrote:
Who else are you scum reading ruxx?

^
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 17:40 GMT
#562
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

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On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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3/20



Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

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On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 17:49 GMT
#568
On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o

Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.





Because if Damdred is mafia he spewed me as town at this point. And I was and did asked some questions towards others????
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 17:51 GMT
#570
Anyways I think Oats is town atm he playing to what I remembered which is boring and blunt but granted that was years ago since I played with him in Office Mini Mafia.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 17:56 GMT
#574
On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
[quote]
nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o

Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.





Because if Damdred is mafia he spewed me as town at this point. And I was and did asked some questions towards others????

If damdred is mafia, he has ulterior motives for town reading you so we cant trust him. You should know this.


You didnt actually ask any questions other than the ruxxar bit. And you did nothing with that. You only said you thought he was scum when geript asked.

Most of your filter is you answering questions that dont mean anytthing.



ruxxar didn't answer my question and Damdred asked the same question later. I wish he would answer the question. I know most of my filter was answering questions but some of them were directed towards me.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 17:58 GMT
#577
On August 26 2017 02:57 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:39 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause it sure seems like you dont really care whos mafia and whos town.

and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +
allow me to take this opportunity to say ls, vivax, skynx, and koshi are likely town

i dont care about townreads lol.

ah, i see you approach the game differently than i do. a classic scenario

So its halfway through day 1, and you have 3 people town.

The reason I dont care about townreads is because the objective of the game is to lynch mafia, not find town people and waffle around during the day 1 lynch.


it kinda does help when you can narrow the mafia pool down continuously and home in on 4-5 possible mafia. which is exactly what i plan to do. you can call townreads garbage, but i think your tells are way outdated, so how about i keep playing the game in a way that works for me and maybe we can lynch some mafia anyway.

Oats is a old school player to be fair. What is your read on him?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 18:16 GMT
#597
On August 26 2017 03:11 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 02:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:39 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause it sure seems like you dont really care whos mafia and whos town.

and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +
allow me to take this opportunity to say ls, vivax, skynx, and koshi are likely town

i dont care about townreads lol.

ah, i see you approach the game differently than i do. a classic scenario

So its halfway through day 1, and you have 3 people town.

The reason I dont care about townreads is because the objective of the game is to lynch mafia, not find town people and waffle around during the day 1 lynch.


it kinda does help when you can narrow the mafia pool down continuously and home in on 4-5 possible mafia. which is exactly what i plan to do. you can call townreads garbage, but i think your tells are way outdated, so how about i keep playing the game in a way that works for me and maybe we can lynch some mafia anyway.

So whos mafia?

hf / rayn / rux / art / geript / you. pick 3

Why you think Oats could be mafia?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 18:18 GMT
#605
On August 26 2017 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1.

How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue.

Will check this later to see if this is true.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 18:23 GMT
#615
On August 26 2017 03:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 03:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1.

How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue.

Will check this later to see if this is true.

Why would you post this???

koshi might actually be mafia

Just noting it for myself???
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