[T] MS Paint-Off Mafia

On August 13 2017 19:13 ruXxar wrote:
/out

On August 14 2017 07:11 Tumblewood wrote:

that's pretty weak

On August 14 2017 07:20 Tumblewood wrote:

no. but you did say you were pretty sure he was scum, so there was a chance you had a decent reason. but what you had was basically nai.

On August 14 2017 07:18 ritoky wrote:
there's a dude who plays here who's UN is ticktock...i feel insulted on a profound level.

On August 14 2017 07:38 ritoky wrote:


a mahou shoujo

On August 14 2017 15:50 ritoky wrote:


idk who jealous is so i have no context on that. tw is being a demolitionist so far, not a builder. wow it's great that you shit on other people's reads, but you have no alternatives or don't try to get the ball really rolling. so if that is what "off" means to you, that is what tumblewood is to me. if he magically flipped mafia i wouldn't be surprised. the clock thing was partly joking, but partly actually being hurt. i feel like i got everyone else's on some level or they were clever or cute....and i am a fucking clock with a misspelled name....dunno, was just sad

On August 14 2017 23:25 Holyflare wrote:


The dumb tell is on top of the fact that jealous has called out what he assumes to be bull shit all game. I like it a lot. Copcake drops to your level for calling out rayn but not much else other than discuss about a clock with ritoky. Still called out rayn though.

On August 14 2017 23:25 Holyflare wrote:


The dumb tell is on top of the fact that jealous has called out what he assumes to be bull shit all game. I like it a lot. Copcake drops to your level for calling out rayn but not much else other than discuss about a clock with ritoky. Still called out rayn though.

On August 14 2017 23:09 geript wrote:

The lie detector test determined this was a lie.

On August 15 2017 02:43 Tumblewood wrote:

u were supposed to ask but whatever.

conv is town for reasons already described in my filter.
jealous is town because it matches his play in the one newbie game where we got a bunch of new players. (in that one i checked his town and scum meta. as scum he was almost conspiratorial and as town he was highly concerned with being Logical (TM), and he is pretty Logical this game)

cake is weak town because i think feeling shut down by someone is a more townie sentiment. for scum being shut down doesn't matter as long as they aren't being lynched.
fefe is weak town for requesting not to get a powerup. i just don't think mafia are thinking of that sort of thing

half the game is null because half the game is afk and makes me sad

damdred is weak scum because his posts are highly noncommittal and far too long for saying next to nothing concretely.

hf is weak scum for driving weak reasons into the ground. normally this would be fully scum but driving reasons into the ground is hf's specialty already.

geript is weak scum because, before the rest of the thread jumped on my ass, i got the impression he was looking for an excuse to attack me.

On August 15 2017 03:42 Holyflare wrote:
why does rels not posting worry you?

that's classic rels

On August 15 2017 05:06 ritoky wrote:


all my life people told me i use stupid metrics to make reads. all my life i been more right than wrong. even if it is dumb, your top mafia read is about a drawing of a clock....so...

On August 15 2017 05:29 ritoky wrote:
i mean either:

a) damdred is your top mafia read and you want to lynch someone who isn't your top mafia read which is ????????????????????????????

or

b) i am your top mafia read who you want to lynch and you're lying.

so which?

On August 15 2017 05:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
cupcake why was i a duck?

On August 15 2017 05:53 Tumblewood wrote:

you realize the judges' selections have nothing to do with the paintings at all, right? you could not draw anything and still get selected.

On August 15 2017 05:51 Damdred wrote:
How am I avoiding you cupcake? O.o

And geript I liked her rayn dig at first, kinda fling down since then though.

On August 15 2017 06:27 Holyflare wrote:
Like here's the TL;DR of the plan:

1) Always pick the towniest person.
2) Always make them pick vests NEVER ANYTHING ELSE.
3) If two people with vests ever die then mafia is contained in one of the winners.
4) Otherwise you are basically in an all vanilla game with the towniest people not able to ever die on a day.

On August 14 2017 16:37 Onegu wrote:
What are judges?

Goddamnit I have to read the OP I just realized this is Themed. Damnit Rayn what did you get me into....

On August 15 2017 07:54 Hopeless1der wrote:

Cake, this is some weaksauce over here. Go after someone with something even remotely related to the rest of the playerbase, not someone bitching about the mechanics.

On August 15 2017 08:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
And Cake, I don't recall playing with you before, so if clicking on filters isnt a thing you do, then my bad, but the info I'm calling you out on is readily available and takes less than 10 seconds to find if you have an internet connection from this decade.

On August 15 2017 08:37 Damdred wrote:
I voted nd and everyone else should as well.

Cake do you think hopeless is scum?

On August 15 2017 08:51 Damdred wrote:


I'm pretty lost so far Tbh nothing besides rayn odd play is sticki ng out to me.

And I'm not sure about hopeless tbh, he just tried to do a gotcha play on me. So kinda town in that regard

On August 15 2017 08:57 Damdred wrote:


You know who else is interestingly uninteresting conversion.

His post about tw lacks a real conclussion, just a bit of throwing shade and a bit of a metaish defense. Just seems like light pushing without actually doing anything.

And he's really safe talking some about mechanics but does have a good question to rayn. But no real opinion on rayn in that regard.

It's interesting but kinda short still.

On August 15 2017 09:09 Damdred wrote:


I think tw is interesting, I am leaning town currently on him.

For the mechanics I guess sorta? I am am for vests for the winners though

On August 15 2017 09:09 Conversion wrote:


wat



you have like 10 people there that are inactive, why single in on Rels and Onegu? wut. both of them are "lurker" too, not scummy

explain?

On August 15 2017 09:12 Hopeless1der wrote:


I sincerely disagree with your read of TW. In order of importance, I'd like you to read his defense of rayn based on meta and explain to me how/why it A) makes sense from TW's perspective, B) considers the possibility that HF is town, C) considers the possibility that rayn is town and D) accurately represents rayn's meta.

On August 15 2017 10:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
Cake, I'm happy to consider any argument you have, just...keep some level or consistency with what you say. If you randomly flipflop your own reads (which you've done) I'm going to call you scum for it. If you cant keep track of your own reads how can I expect you to give a reasonable assessment of anyone else?

On August 15 2017 10:34 ritoky wrote:
i think geript is town for angle shooting, i think hopeless is town for being a ball buster and that's pretty much it. i wouldn't be surprised if TW is mafia for how he came out of the blocks tearing ppl's opinions down and not trying to build anything up but i am not sold on that. the whole shit surrounding rayn is a pile of nothing to me. ff's read on hopeless is lazy, nitpicky, and a stretch. i don't understand basically anything copcake types and it seems like she is in a different reality. and there's a guy in the thread who the judges think is town drawing pictures and self-proclaiming dunce which is offputting to me but he is funny which tends to be town indicative. damdred is just floating through like a whispy cloud who doesn't wanna be tied down to reads. it is all just so fucking meh. none of it has me excited.

On August 15 2017 10:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
Eventually we'll probably ask for them all if they arent obvious, but why is damdred a fish?

On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.

On August 15 2017 10:53 ritoky wrote:


real talk, i was never really that mad about the clock thing. it was more like a last kid picked in dodgeball issue. i felt like thought/cleverness had been put into most of them except for mine which felt tacked on. that's my opinion, if you put equally as much thought/effort into mine as everyone else's or my name is just too hard to make into something cute/clever then fuck me for caring and having a shitty name.

On August 15 2017 11:07 ritoky wrote:


copcake - scum lean for inconsistency, her tw read (if i even understand it right) being sheeped from hf who partially sheeped it from me but i am scum, and her obsession with the clock aka omgus

hf - nothing yet. town hf lynches mafia and dies/eats shots, town mafia pushes forward his agenda consistently, town hf doesn't give much shits about outside opinions so long as things head his direction. mafia hf aggressively pockets players, lynches townies and stays alive, and has sudden shifts in his agenda post-nks to suit his new agenda (or sometimes he does this super cool slight pivot thing that i wish i was capable of). he hasn't had the opportunity to blossom yet.

jealous - ???? he's funny, but proclaims self dunce which makes it feel like an act and since his geript boner died he has felt pretty preipheral, pretty hard meh.

so basically i reject your categories.

On August 15 2017 22:11 Holyflare wrote:


Not at all. Doesn't mean she couldn't be mafia though just not for this reason.

On August 15 2017 22:16 Conversion wrote:
meanwhile not a single post from Rels and apparently this is OK town behavior b/c that's his meta

yet hopeless rants on and on about inactives, filter length being an indicator for his scum reads, etc.

I'll take notes for next time mr. french man

On August 15 2017 23:40 Damdred wrote:
Copcake rayn has come back and Don things.

Read on him now?

On August 15 2017 23:46 Damdred wrote:


Any reasoning besides?

On August 15 2017 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:

idk what you're saying here. but i don't really care.
Cake is mafia.

On August 15 2017 23:53 Holyflare wrote:


That's about 0% true. He called me mafia and pushed me as mafia in his last mafia game.

On August 15 2017 23:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake is mafia.

On August 15 2017 23:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And you are the only person who knows i was actually in a party 400km away whole weekend and i had to travel back on sunday and on monday i slept from 5pm until today 5:30am. and you are trying to say you would use that against me (inactivity) in case you were mafia when it is over a day to lynch.

You never couldnt, because tuesday or wednesday is not monday or sunday.

On August 15 2017 23:56 Hopeless1der wrote:

How the fuck does that matter based on the criteria you gave?

On August 16 2017 00:01 Hopeless1der wrote:

in what universe is HF weak town?

On August 15 2017 23:53 Holyflare wrote:


That's about 0% true. He called me mafia and pushed me as mafia in his last mafia game.

On August 16 2017 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
I don't expect you to know about Rayn's games with me. I'm correcting your bad meta of rayn by disproving it with evidence from two games ago. TL LXXV(?) or something like that. Game looks identical to here tbh.

On August 16 2017 00:30 Conversion wrote:
Cop can I get clarification on why Onegu lynch?

On August 16 2017 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

wait, cake, who do you want to kill and why?
three people, there are no more mafia.

On August 16 2017 00:58 Damdred wrote:
I don't understand why I should hard defend someone I'm questioning.

You make it seem like I posted once and left cake when I've posted multiple times to you?

I just don't get it

On August 16 2017 00:58 Damdred wrote:
I don't understand why I should hard defend someone I'm questioning.

You make it seem like I posted once and left cake when I've posted multiple times to you?

I just don't get it

On August 16 2017 02:14 Conversion wrote:


Can I get your thoughts on Rels?

On August 16 2017 03:07 Holyflare wrote:


Can you summarise what you've done since being nominated? I'm genuinely curious what you think about yourself.





Also rayn, why did you add in your narrative that my ritoky read was scummy/bad but haven't said a word about copcake scum reading ritoky for being angry about being a clock?

And why did you say jealous was scummy for not adding geript to his scum read and forgetting his town reads but didn't say a word about copcake forgetting her reads?

On August 16 2017 03:18 Holyflare wrote:


Now instead of metaphors how about actual content?

What did you post that was good and why did people not react well to it? Who called you mafia and for what reason?

On August 16 2017 03:19 Conversion wrote:


Okay. since there are no modkills in this game, how do you propose we deal with someone like Rels? since he might be more town than not, should we just ignore him?

On August 16 2017 03:27 Holyflare wrote:
Who said you were mafia for asking to give rayn more time?

On August 15 2017 22:08 Conversion wrote:
also if rayn is mafia, then is cop mafia too by virtue of sticking up for him?

On August 16 2017 03:32 Hopeless1der wrote:

inb4 "whoops i forgot"

On August 16 2017 04:04 Holyflare wrote:


So it's conversion and not hopeless? And it's one person not many. And it's not a scum read, it's a hypothetical. I don't think conversion scum reads rayn at that point?

So why is it a forest of wolves and why did you feel the need to tell people to lynch you or whatever?

What have you done other than say rayn is actually afk? Where are the scum reads/town reads?

I've said rels is actually afk irl (steam) but I've actually got reads too. Soooooooo where are yours?

On August 15 2017 22:11 Holyflare wrote:


Not at all. Doesn't mean she couldn't be mafia though just not for this reason.

On August 16 2017 04:59 Jealous wrote:

Thanks! My biggest question was why you read him as town for the same frame if posts that I scumlean on him and why you would disagree with my impression on his posts. You can see my read in my filter.

As far as HF/CC and the vote cycle (it's still going right? Still on mobile so I haven't checked), I can understand people both believing in and being wary of HF because that's where I'm at, but CopCake makes very little sense sometimes and has contributed even less so I am puzzled as to why anyone would vote for her at all. Vote analysis in a cycle or two should be interesting.

On August 16 2017 05:07 ritoky wrote:


can you answer my question.....who is town?

On August 16 2017 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
Like copcake's culmination of posts today are:

"Rayn is afk cos of real life"
"People scum read me and they're wolves in a forest"

When asked who scum read her she linked a post from conversion that wasn't a scum read, and said it was from hopeless. She forgot all of her scum reads.
She gets annoyed when questioned about basic things.
She doesn't have reads(????)
When asked what good she's done today it's literally, "Told people rayn was afk" and nothing more but then she complains that people are scum reading her because she's done good things today. She can't explain what these good things are.

On August 16 2017 06:57 Holyflare wrote:
why?

On August 16 2017 07:18 Holyflare wrote:
why can't you treat rels the same as rayn?

rels is afk and needs time, no?

On August 16 2017 07:23 Fecalfeast wrote:


Felt like I should paint a pic instead of proving I'm town.

I named him greg

On August 16 2017 07:23 Holyflare wrote:
he said he just got back from holiday a day early?

On August 16 2017 08:26 geript wrote:
Like when it's newbies, martyring isn't terribly uncommon. I've always seen it as a threat of, "When I flip everyone will see you're fucking wrong." Or some sort of using their alignment flip to get incredulous and prove they're right. Never in a million games have I ever see a new townie predicate their threat of of flip that way.. it's super fucking weird.

On August 16 2017 11:30 Jealous wrote:

Finishing a paper and preparing to study for an exam I have tomorrow. I might have to put off any megaposts about FF and H1 until after I finish doing those things. I will make brief summaries though.

On August 16 2017 17:30 Holyflare wrote:
I also have no idea what to think of copcake. She's done absolutely nothing and when called out just calls me mafia but doesn't even push anything to do with it. I don't get any critical thinking whatsoever. I don't understand the wild town reads from ritoky and tw at all.

Maybe it's a language barrier thing but even then it's like she doesn't care about the content. Her mafia read is ritoky because he was angry about the clock. Still.

She's also forgotten damdred is her scum read?? Nobody seems to care about that. Certainly haven't heard it from her.

On August 16 2017 20:45 Holyflare wrote:
This game is stupid. Who cares who mafia is if we don't even get to lynch them? D:

I also am going to go completely bat shit crazy and move conversion to marginally towny. Even though his filter is abhorrent.

Come at me.

On August 17 2017 00:27 Hopeless1der wrote:

What's your point? You asked jealous if hes from russia.

On August 17 2017 05:05 Holyflare wrote:


You realise I only play on a phone right? It's not that hard.

And no way you can feel confident to call rels anything right now.

On August 17 2017 05:19 Holyflare wrote:


Right. So YOU are the person with the scum read on me but you can't be bothered to prove it to other people.

I asked you to do nothing about Rayn's link to another game, I simply told you that your meta was wrong and linked you a game from my experience that disproved it. Then for some reason you linked a game and I said that was useless because I had no need for it. You've somehow made that into me being scum.

Then you said you felt like wolves in a forest or whatever nonsense and I asked why. You said that because MULTIPLE people were scum reading you for talking about rayn afking. I asked for you to quote ALL OF THESE PEOPLE and you simply returned ONE person - conversion - WHO DIDN'T EVEN SCUM READ YOU. It was a hypothetical question from him to ME. Then you've scum read me somehow in regards to this?????

So, you've misconstrued my posts at every opportunity, you for some reason have a chip on your shoulder this day calling me mafia because it enables you to dodge talking about absolutely ANYTHING to do with fecalfeast/hopeless/rayn (incoming oh I read rayn X here bla bla, I know you do) but like other people have said you just sit back passively reacting to people asking YOU questions and when you actually do get a scum read (me) you don't even push it. You're just peripheral and it's suiting your mafia agenda of survival.

---

So when you get back to a computer I'll gladly ask for those links that PROVE what you're talking about and PROVE that I'm mafia because that will:

A) be the first semblance of you making a mafia read on game based content this game
B) be impossible because those quotes don't exist

I will gladly lynch myself when you prove otherwise. 100% no take backs. I will vote for myself if you can prove what you said true.

On August 17 2017 05:56 Conversion wrote:


HF is saying that I never called you mafia, or even insinuated it. I even addressed this earlier

On August 17 2017 07:12 Holyflare wrote:
Oh apparently I'm not mafia anymore?

On August 17 2017 11:03 geript wrote:

Hopeless + TW can be a team; it was brought up last game, but it's far harder to "vote wrong" as scum. It's especially so when you're already under pressure. I think TW + Cop makes way more sense personally, but without actually diving filters specifically looking for possible connections I don't particularly care.

On August 17 2017 05:33 rsoultin wrote:

Day 1 Elimination Final Vote Count

raynpelikoneet (2): Conversion, Jealous, raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood, Hopeless1der
Fecalfeast (5): geript, Holyflare, Conversion, Eversince, Hopeless1der
Hopeless1der (5): Fecalfeast, Damdred, CopCake, Rels, Tumblewood

Not Voting (1): ritoky

In Fecalfeast was eliminated from the competition.

On August 17 2017 11:49 Hopeless1der wrote:

If you need an explanation for why TW is scum, no amount of mspaint is going to help you.

On August 17 2017 11:51 Hopeless1der wrote:

plurality vote mechanics. whoever reaches the highest number first is lynched. Which is weird because TW unvoted, then I moved my vote to Fefe to save myself, then TW voted for me.

On August 17 2017 11:52 geript wrote:

You're far from a terrible lynch. IDK if you're scum with TW; I think you can just be fucking terrible. Your filter is a hot fucking mess. You react to any time you and TW get brought up, you make it look like at various points you think he's scum or could be but end up with a lame townread on him. That's only from your filter. It doesn't even go into his need to explain the Copcake supertown read on you in full based on super shitty shit.

On August 17 2017 11:56 geript wrote:
But go on Copcake, please talk about how Town!TW can read 12 pages of filter in 3 minutes and come to the fact that FF must be Town and he only has 1 post of Hopeless he likes. I'll wait.

On August 17 2017 12:04 geript wrote:




Like, you want to show off how much you two can "never be together" and how you've "come to blows;" blah blah blah. It's like watching two young gay guys in the south secretly be in love with each other but you have to keep up the "straight" appearances.

On August 17 2017 12:13 geript wrote:

How does Fecalfeast having "so little pages" have anything to do with this. Look at the quotes. Here... I'll link them:
TW not remembering FF's posts but thinking he was town

TW finishing both FF's and Hopeless' filters

TW posting a shitty reads post that includes secret hearthrob Copcake at the top that he made a huge amazing shitty townread on unlike anything else he's posted in the game but is obviously in no way whatsoever is connected to

The mods telling use to shut our traps for end of day[/url

It's not at all at the start of day; in fact it's right at the end of it. He magically forgets his reasons for FF but in 3 minutes can read 12 pages of filter and call hopeless scum. You're even fucking defending this shit and you're "so obviously not connected to him."

On August 17 2017 12:27 Jealous wrote:
Nevermind, paint got too complicated once I realized all of the contingencies and the limitations of TL's textbox. Let's look at it from the judge's perspective.



1. T+V. Let's assume this as the baseline, as this is what I imagine the judges would hypothetically be going for.

It would only make sense for T+V to claim in this scenario. The vig shot could almost never be used as a bargaining chip to appeal when up for lynch, because that would indicate that the judges had chosen someone to give it to then changed their minds about whether that person is townie or not and put them in the lynch pile. Wouldn't make sense.

2. S+V This is the worst-case scenario, the one that I overlooked in the previous analysis.

If S+V claims, then that would just be a bad/dumb move. It would be much more effective to save it and use it if suspicion ever DID fall on them from the judges and they thought they were going to lose the lynch vote, or if the game gets to the point where the judges are no longer present.

3. T-V. This would mean that HF is intentionally misleading everyone in the game, EXCEPT the judges who already know that he doesn't have the V.

This would only make sense if he was trying to put all the attention on himself, so that the judges could give the shot to someone else who would be under less scrutiny. This would also likely force scum to use a RB on him, as he currently has vest and with the shot in tow, it is a bad position for scum. However, I think that this is still not a very good play, as it would assume that the judges don't scumread him for the move, and it would assume that when the vig shot is actually given out there is likely to be a legitimacy argument which would be counter-productive. I don't think this possibility makes much sense. If the judges did scumread him for the move it would look like this:

4. S-V This would also mean that HF is intentionally misleading everyone in the game, EXCEPT the judges who already know that he doesn't have the V, and of course excluding his scummates.

This wouldn't make much sense to do because then the judges could just indicate that it is false by not including HF in the "Top 3" vote in the next cycle, effectively showing that "we don't care if this guy gets a vest or not because he is lying." That will show to everyone to stop listening to HF, and then he will be in the lynch pile the next cycle.



In short, I don't find any situation in which it makes sense for scum HF to claim; I also think that the move for town HF to claim without actually having it would be too much of a gamble. QED, HF is town and has the shot.

It was pretty hard for me to explain myself throughout all of this. If you disagree with my conclusions, please share your counterarguments because I could easily have just confused myself while thinking of the possibilities and interactions.

On August 17 2017 12:23 geript wrote:

Bull shit read the fucking posts.


This is clearly and obviously him representing that he's read both filters. Hell just opening reading FF's filter which was like 3 pages would take 3 minutes. You can't tell me he's not flat out lying about what he's doing and done. You can't flat out say that he thinks both are town when he fucking says 2/3rds of mafia are in a group of Hopeless +4. That's why he needs to be lynched.

On August 17 2017 12:46 Damdred wrote:
@cake can you take me through your thought process on voting hopeless?

On August 17 2017 12:46 geript wrote:

The post he quoted from hopeless is this one. It's on the third page of Hopeless filter. So at least, we're talking about him reading 6 pages of filter in 3 minutes. Even just skimming, that's super fast. But he has like all the FF posts as super town. Just reading/skimming I'm super fast. I finished most GoT books in about 4-6 hours. I can enjoy a thread super quick. But just opening two filters and hitting all is a good 30 seconds gone. There's not time for him to have done what he's said he's done. Even if FF's filter took 2 minutes, TW doesn't even have time to reach that quote in Hopeless filter. He's just pulling out a random quote (one which I've pointed out at least twice BTW) and calling it towny.

On August 17 2017 12:47 geript wrote:

You fucking called him town. You fucking "cleared him"

I'm done. Lynch TW, lynch Rels, lynch Cop. GG

On August 17 2017 12:50 Jealous wrote:

Did you just quote yourself and QFT? Lol. There's a first for everything xD Not a dig on you or anything, just thought it was humorous.

I don't see how it is irrelevant. Can you explain how that could be the case?

@H1: I know that the judges don't know the alignments. The division was to explain why it would be stupid for HF to claim vig as either alignment -v.

@CopCake: That's an interesting point, I didn't consider that. It's certainly possible if there was a perfect storm situation, where a townie is being heavily scumread by the town and not the judges and thus the vig shot would be justified somehow. It would still take quite a bit of finesse and I could still see people upset over it regardless of how its handled.

On August 17 2017 19:13 Holyflare wrote:


Before the judges even picked the top 3 town.

On August 17 2017 23:33 Holyflare wrote:


Tw's meta is TMI for days as mafia.

On August 17 2017 23:47 Hopeless1der wrote:

okay seriously, you dont know that TMI means "Too Much Information"?

On August 17 2017 23:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
But also, this particular argument has a latent assumption that scum knew what the judges were doing...so wtf is that about>

On August 17 2017 23:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
But also, this particular argument has a latent assumption that scum knew what the judges were doing...so wtf is that about>

On August 18 2017 00:54 Damdred wrote:
At you just going to be a dick to everyone in the thread hopeless? Especially after the way you reacted to someone being a dick to you? I have been calm, courteous and respectful in our interactions and I expect for that to be returned.

On August 18 2017 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Me too, apparently it was bullshit in the first place and apparently i am notw mafia for questioning bullshit.

On August 18 2017 02:15 Hopeless1der wrote:
And I get that the judges wont give me a gun, because I'm me and I'm not useful in any meaningful sense. (lynchbait doesnt count)

But I'm still gonna try. Rayn entertaining the notion that the game was so broken that scum could read the judge qt is complete nonsense.

COMPLETE NONSENSE!!

On August 18 2017 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Wait Cake, what is this?

On August 18 2017 02:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake why do you say if you had to lynch someone you would lynch ritoky but Damdred is your top scumread?

On August 18 2017 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

You said that at the start of the game, in the first 24 hours.
First you say if you had to lynch someone, it would be ritoky. Then, after 3 hours you say your top scumread was Damdred. You said this:

Where did this lying happen inbetween?

On August 18 2017 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:

You posted you wanted to lynch ritoky before you said "Damdred was more mafia" so this cannot be true.
What was the reasoning you found Damdred mafia for? You can't say "Cake then says he found Damdred more scummy but now wants to lynch Ritoki" when ORIGINALLY you said "if i had to lynch someone now it would be ritoky".

On August 18 2017 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yes, and i would like to know why you later on said "Damdred is my top scum", which you did.

On August 17 2017 06:55 CopCake wrote:
1. Rayn : Town from expefience yabadadada but cake how can you know? Your meta on him is terrible etc etc etc. I know Rayn for almost 4 year (maybe more) and my best games I have played them with him. I talk to him everyday, etc etc.
2. Ritoki: He is strange, change of moods, suddebly dissapeared, to me this looks like a mafia trying not to participate in the chaos, like he will be back and be like "Oh sorry I was afking" but in his scum quick topic he is rejoicing at seeing so many townies putting knives on each other. Grade 2 mafia.
3. Geript: Idk why people read him town, for me is null because I think he is smart and all but I can see him doing good cases in both as mafia and town. Near to mafia pile
4. Damdred: Grade 3 Mafia, he has done nothing, Nothing, I know him, he is smart, he has sould but here... I see he is trying to pocket people and looking like he is scum hunting but he hasnt done anything amazing.
5. Tumblewood: He got balls to deffend me, is strange I mean who mafioso would lose the opportunity to misslynch? I saw him firt as mafia but it changed. I put him on town pile.
6. Jealous: All his posts feel honest, I loved his rayn and damdred charts, is logical, try to have people to behave and do the best for the game, etc. Etc. Amazing guys deserves an harem and all the oil of Arabia and a magic carpet. Dude is 100% town he will ace his exam. Oh he pointed out I am foreign so he notices the little details so that is awsome.

8. HF: ignore forever until he behaves

11. Conversion: Even since we have had difference I like him and I will put him in town pile, he is actually interested in solving things and not just to participate in Drama. He is pure, clean, doesnt seem like a crazy wolf. Honest.
13. Onegu replaced by Eversince: cant say much, need to read filter, Like I considered Onegu mafia but Ever seemed town.
15. Rels: His lack of participation made him look mafia specially wih his I am catching up and then dissapeared. Nevertheless his last posts seemed so neutral, calmed, on spot reads, etc. He is town.
16. Hopeledsrider: This is probably my most interesting read. I consider him mafia and is mostly because of his progression. He is extremely nice (He is understanding) but like somehing feels odd unlike conversion, he is like the wolf trying to be the grandma to red riding hood cake, he is when drama happens, he seems like he contributed but then is like ??? I need to recheck if he parrots but something is extremely odd.

I hope he is mafia because if not I insulted the kindest soul in this game.

On August 18 2017 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
-> ritoky is top scum
-> ritoky lies
-> "i thought damdred is most likely mafia but you lied so now you are"

On August 18 2017 04:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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How is that not what happened?

On August 18 2017 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I again think Cake is mafia. I don't see fault in my post on her.

On August 18 2017 05:04 Holyflare wrote:
And it's not "an easy timeline". You said you "forgot" your scum read on damdred or something.