the only thing i like in rels' filter is his geript read where he says "geript thought this of me last game where i did a lot of the same shit, but this game he thinks the opposite and that is sketch."

the only thing i dislike in rels' filter is his immediate inclination to pin a damdred death on me esp w/ him not reading the game closely.

so idk how rayn got to feel so strongly.

ritoky

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August 19 2017 20:22 GMT

#2607

voted on jealous, not married to it.

ritoky

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August 19 2017 20:24 GMT

#2613

i might switch to rels dunno. i really don't particularly like the people voting on jealous, but i think he is more mafia.

ritoky

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August 19 2017 20:44 GMT

#2653

yo my bad for not voting on the coinflip who ended up town. feeling really burnt up inside. /s

ritoky

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August 19 2017 20:46 GMT

#2656

also after careful consideration, i have determined that geript and hf cannot be together, they are added to jealous and conversion of people i cannot see together in this game.

ritoky

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August 19 2017 20:47 GMT

#2657

cannot see as mafia together*

ritoky

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August 19 2017 20:54 GMT

#2668

hmmmm....considering the world where both were town and rayn fights for the opposite lynch knowing it ain't happening

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

August 19 2017 20:59 GMT

#2672

jealous consolidated onto hf for the positive power day 1 right?

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

August 19 2017 21:00 GMT

#2676

so they are always the same alignment right? i guess there's a case for a town jealous and a mafia hf, but more often then not they're the same alignment.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

August 19 2017 21:02 GMT

#2679

cuz a mafia jealous would prefer the power go to himself or the "lesser player" in copcake not to hf if it was a mafia jealous and a town hf

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

August 19 2017 21:06 GMT

#2686

so is it as simple as jealous flips red -> hf mafia, jealous flips green -> rayn mafia?

i might be simplifying too much.

ritoky

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August 19 2017 21:07 GMT

#2689

On August 20 2017 06:05 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky please save my sanity.

i am trying to piece this shit together a bit for the first legitimate time all game; let me work through it.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

August 19 2017 21:15 GMT

#2699

i think the only real holyflare is mafia worlds that make any sense to me is something like hf/jealous/hopeless or hf/jealous/eversince. the 2nd 1 probably more so than the first.

geript can't be mafia with hf cuz of the mod confirmed parroting and cuz geript wouldn't start to flip his read on me knowing in the qt that hf is going to fake a green on me.

copcake can't be with hf, cuz shitfighting.

tumble can in a crazy ass universe that i choose not to believe atm, so like 1% or lower.

rayn is possible, but rayn talked me out of believing they could be together.

conv can't be with jealous because of dunce picture and him not doing that to partner.

so yeah those are the only 2 teams where hf is mafia

ritoky

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August 19 2017 21:17 GMT

#2703

On August 20 2017 06:07 Holyflare wrote:

Show nested quote +

No because I'm always town. In every scenario. I don't just randomly green check you in a lynch pool for shits and giggles to narrow it down to my partner and a random.

yeah....narrowing down the lynch pool to 2 randomly when your partner is in the lynch pool....when you could just fake green your partner out of the pool.....that is such a next level play that it probably didn't happen.

okay hf is probably town.....which means jealous is probably town for his day 1 power vote.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

August 19 2017 21:19 GMT

#2705

copcake, you think i am town right?

ritoky

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August 19 2017 21:25 GMT

#2708

Let's imagine that HF is mafia for this post.

HF fake claims a green check on me, who you think is town. This renders the lynch pool down to 2 as no one is lynching the green check.

In the event that Jealous is mafia and I am town in this scenario, why would a mafia HF drop the lynch pool down to 2 people when 1 of them is his partner? Why wouldn't he claim the check to clear his partner from the lynch pool and render the vote to 2 townies instead?

In that sense you have to believe that either a) HF is mafia with me and clearing me from the lynch pool via fake check or b) all 3 of us (Jealous included) were town and HF checked the 1 that was most convenient for him.

ritoky

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August 19 2017 21:35 GMT

#2714

I got the opposite impression HF. I got the impression that he was scum who was too tentative to say shit because he felt like the slightest nudge may topple the house of cards over onto him.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

August 19 2017 21:40 GMT

#2717

Right but what I am saying copcake, is that HF (in the 1 game ever we have been mafia together) was very risk averse unless he was forced to take risks or in a losing position. HF is in a position where he has free license to fake a green check on any player in the lynch pool. You're saying in that case he risks his partner (Jealous) leaving him in the lynch pool rather than fake a green on Jealous and ensure 100% another town death because rels or I would have died.

I don't see that as a play HF makes, that is an unnecessary risk when the alternative is literally a guaranteed townie being lynched.